calling YODA, or other UK knife people! [Archive]

mild7

30-Oct-2003, 10:14 PM

Hello my british friends,

I will be travelling to edinburgh, then London, at the end of the year to visit some 'distant' relatives, eat some fried haddock and yorkshire pudding, and get soaked in the never ending drizzle of rain.

What is more relevant though is that I will not be able to bring my glock along with me, since your country does not respect the right to bear arms(guns). Which is fine.

I recall reading a post by Yoda that 'locking' folding knives are illegal in the UK.

But .......... I've also been told that you are allowed a 3 inch blade, and as long as it folds its ok, locking mechanism not withstanding.

so who's right?

this following link says folding is ok. No mention of 'locking' folders being illegal:

http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/cgi-bin2/hmso_hl?DB=hmso-new&STEMMER=en&WORDS=inch+knife+&COLOUR=Red&STYLE=s&URL=http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1996/Uksi_19963064_en_1.htm#muscat_highlighter_first_ma tch

just wanna make sure, I have no desire to be thrown in a lockup, even if the UK does have better a prison standard than thailand.

Falling_link

30-Oct-2003, 10:18 PM

I would suggest you don't bring the blade over at all, however if it is for "ornimental use" you may be able to bring it over. If you do bring it over, just make sure you declare it i think is the thing you do

Falling_link

30-Oct-2003, 10:21 PM

The link you gave us is Criminal Law..... that dosent count for what you are trying to find out i think

mild7

31-Oct-2003, 12:42 PM

well... I just want to be able to walk the filthy streets of London wiht my Delica in my pocket.

If it is legal to carry a 3 inch tactical folder, then there won't be any problems. :)

johndoch

31-Oct-2003, 12:55 PM

Leave your paranoia at home and come to the UK and relax. Chances are, unless your looking for trouble you wont get any.

mild7

31-Oct-2003, 02:49 PM

Last time I was in London I got into a fight outside stringfellows.

I try to relax, but trouble finds me...

Tosh

31-Oct-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by mild7
Last time I was in London I got into a fight outside stringfellows.

I try to relax, but trouble finds me...

First off I would be in a fight if I were OUTSIDE too! :D

But forget that nonsense about trouble "finding" you. Sounds far too much like excuses to bear arms rather than a right! :D

Freeform

31-Oct-2003, 03:07 PM

And besides, due to our legal situation of not carrying arms, we are all better than Americans at hand to hand combat, because we practice it more! ;)

So if your out in Edinburgh, you just stay close to me and Tosh! :D

Colin

Tosh

31-Oct-2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Freeform

So if your out in Edinburgh, you just stay close to me and Tosh! :D

Colin

Yeah between us I reckon we could end any chance of you interacting with "normal " society! :D

P.s. I have 4 masks in my bag ehehehheheheheeh :D

mild7

31-Oct-2003, 03:12 PM

As much as I would love to, I am in edinburgh to hit a certain scottish fanny, so I won't be able to meet up with any forum members... as important as you lot are to me... ahem.

Tosh

31-Oct-2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by mild7
As much as I would love to, I am in edinburgh to hit a certain scottish f****, so I won't be able to meet up with any forum members... as important as you lot are to me... ahem.

What the score tonight have they really let out the looney asylum, why the hate??

After you just said you don't go looking for trouble??

Respect- o- tron dropping to minimum levels!

And you were/are planning on bringing a knife??? :confused:

That's crazy man! :(

Patrick Bateman

31-Oct-2003, 03:40 PM

Case law has shown a locking knife as illegal to carry without a reasonable excuse, for self defence is not a reasonalbe excuse under Britsh law.

Legally all you can carry is a folding pocket knife with a blade under three inches, no mechanism to open or keep open or close the knife is permitted.

Andy Murray

31-Oct-2003, 04:21 PM

mild7, you're going a long way just to fight someone, or did you mean just assault them?

Frankly I don't want to see this kind of hard man gutter talk from anyone here. Nor does your post move you up my list of 'people I'd like to meet'

Please remember there are children as well as adults here.

Freeform

01-Nov-2003, 08:37 AM

As much as I would love to, I am in edinburgh to hit a certain scottish f***y, so I won't be able to meet up with any forum members... as important as you lot are to me... ahem.

It's... its' not ME is it....? :D

Get a reality check, do you think you'll get away having a knife in your lugauge on a plane this days?!?

And besides, GROW UP. I was thinking that if you were over here I'd sort out a training session for you, but it seems your the sort of person I'd rather not have training with me.

Col

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 10:07 AM

LMAO!!!

what did you think the f word was. Man, this clearly illustrates the importance of... cross cultural communication...

in American terms. To 'hit a .... ' does not always refer to an act of violence.

Ok, you have it, the mild man himself has a certain scottish lass that he wishes to.... become friendlier with....

once again, LOL!!!

you guys crack me up.

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 10:08 AM

and to keep up all this talk of training... is there a bjj or muay thai school in edinburgh? I hear you lot are catching up slowly on the MMA scene. Slowly being the keyword, but at least the wheels are turning.

Freeform

01-Nov-2003, 01:08 PM

For a start you are the one who has a problem in communications, addressing UK people and then using US slang.

Secondly I think your trying to dig your way out of the massive hole you've dug for yourself.

and to keep up all this talk of training... is there a bjj or muay thai school in edinburgh? I hear you lot are catching up slowly on the MMA scene. Slowly being the keyword, but at least the wheels are turning.

You really haven't got a clue have you. How about you actually do some research.

Andy Murray

01-Nov-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by mild7
and to keep up all this talk of training... is there a bjj or muay thai school in edinburgh? I hear you lot are catching up slowly on the MMA scene. Slowly being the keyword, but at least the wheels are turning.

You could go and see Rick Young. He's in Edinburgh, trained to Brown Belt in BJJ, and recent winner of a Gold Medal in BJJ. Not to mention he's a highly respected figure in JKD circles.
I'm surprised you've never heard of him.
Maybe there are other people in Scotland you should research as well?

Andy Murray

01-Nov-2003, 01:10 PM

Ah,
speak of the devil, I believe Freeform has done some training with Rick too.

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 03:20 PM

freeform,

why the hostility? :) And yes, I was trying to dig myself out of the.... hole.... I placed myself in. That being said I will try my best to get some time out to train. But in all honesty I am considering the trip to the UK as more of a recreational visit than anything else.

Maybe I need to clear myself up again. Let us see, you are presuming I mentioned that I wished to commit an act of violence against a guy in scotland.
What I meant was.... 'I am going to scotland to hit(hit being to 'get it on with a female') a certain F A N N Y. That was what the f word was but somehow because of the censorship, it looked like I was saying something else.

So, my internet friend, I hope you now understand what I was trying to say. I am a lover not a fighter.

andy murray,
no, I have not heard of Rick Young. But thanks for the info.

Anyhow guys, should I go back an edit that unintentionally 'offending' post I made earlier, lest more people immediately start jumping on my back? LOL

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 03:35 PM

One valuable thing I have learned from this is how easy it is to get crucified on the internet, because sarcasm and subtelty rarely works when you type it out.

I am still... amused .... that a statement I made has been mistaken for a described act of violence.

That being said, this is not the first time something like this has happened to me! But then again, if I could'nt accept it I would'nt be posting here would I?

But please, no more crucification of mild7. Mild7 is a cool dude who just wants to make a trip to the UK at the end of the yr, and has decided from info on this thread not to bring a knife along. I guess I'll have to walk the filthy streets of London with a few other people, and not by myself as I originally planned to.

Cudgel

01-Nov-2003, 03:53 PM

(note to self dont usse US slang around UK people it will get you nailed to a cross)

For waht my opinions worth I spent a few weeks in London most of it alone wandering the Tube and never once did I even get teh feeling that some one might try to comit an act of violence aginst me which is good because all my toys were in my room across an ocean.
Maybe England is safer than some people say.

Andy Murray

01-Nov-2003, 04:18 PM

Sorry if we've misunderstood you mild7.

If you look at other comments you made such as "the filthy streets of London", and "I hear you lot are catching up slowly on the MMA scene. Slowly being the keyword, but at least the wheels are turning", you can perhaps understand why we felt less than endeared by your posts.

If you fill out your profile, people will know where you are from, and then perhaps make allowances.

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 04:38 PM

thanks to andy murray.

I have to say, I am a sarcastic person by nature and in my non-internet life. Thus, the 'filthy streets of london' comment was a tribute to Lee Murray. :)

For those who don't know, it is alleged that in a fight with Tito Ortiz and Lee Murray, which happened on a london street, Lee knocked Tito down and kicked him in the head. It was then alleged that Lee told Tito that was how fighting was done on the 'filthy streets of London'.

Whether the incident is true or not, I found it hilarious when it was conveyed to me, and at the same time, quite sorry for Tito, who I have a lot of respect for btw.

With rgd to my comment on the UK having a slowly developing MMA scene, I believe it to be true, in the sense that it would make NO sense for me to fly to the UK for the specific purposes of training MMA. Personally, I get all the Vale Tudo I want here, all the BJJ in Brazil and Muay Thai in thailand. The UK will be, a recreational and enjoyable trip for me, and not one that will be made up of training time. That being said you have produced a fine fighter in Ian Freeman.

Cudgel,

Yes, I believe London to be a safer place than Compton. :) But from the tales I've heard about East End killings, it made me think of bringing my trusty Delica over with me.

Andy Murray

01-Nov-2003, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by mild7
I have to say, I am a sarcastic person by nature and in my non-internet life.

As am I. I'll be reading your posts with more caution in future. :D

Andy rushes off to see if he's related to Lee.

As regards MMA in the UK, you're probably right, but there are definitely some people you should look up if you get some downtime.

No doubt when Yoda gets back from his hols, he'll have a suggestion or three.

mild7

01-Nov-2003, 05:44 PM

have you read my posts on the thread 'most useful grappling art'? You can find it on the submission fighting/vale tudo forum. Nobody understood what I was saying, but it did give me a lot of laughs.

Like I may have said before, you lot crack me up. To clarify, this statement is not made with any ounce of offence, but rather... a kind of love for my internet acquantainces. Hopefully that was'nt too much information.

Freeform

02-Nov-2003, 09:37 AM

Yep Andy, I trained MT and BJJ with Rick until I had to sacrifice some training time recently (damn trying to be a professional engineer!).

Rick is regarded as the best (and first) JKD instructor outside of the US.

On a note mild7, f***y is pretty much a swear word over here. and if you talk about hitting one when your in a pub you'll probably get some free practice off of a couple of overprotective rugby players.

Col

Tosh

05-Nov-2003, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by mild7

I am still... amused .... that a statement I made has been mistaken for a described act of violence.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"American" English.

No further comment. :D

Freeform

05-Nov-2003, 01:23 PM

Yeah, an American once told me on the forum he didn't understand my 'European English'! :D

mild7

07-Nov-2003, 01:51 PM

I have always lobbied to have 'american' as a recognized language....

you have portugeuse and spanish. Similar but different. I think American and English are different enough to be considered different languages as well.

No point teaching someone 'english' if he wants to come to America. He'd end up fighting everyone who passed a good compliment on his girlfriend. :D

mild7

07-Nov-2003, 01:52 PM

I guess I'd better brush up on my 'english' lessons before my trip....

Tosh

07-Nov-2003, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by mild7

No point teaching someone 'english' if he wants to come to America. He'd end up fighting everyone who passed a good compliment on his girlfriend. :D

I think our ladies have a habit of taking care of themselves mate!!! :D

Why not try the line on when you come over??? :D

Training partners don't come much more violent than an upset women ;)