Mexican?

[Freeform]

What is a Mexican? Not the guys that live South of the USA ;)

I think its a bodyshot/shovel punch kinda thing?

Can anyone help?

Col

[Scotty Dog]

I've heard a shovel hook ( bodyshot that's kinda between a hook & an uppercut, comes in at roughly 45 degrees towards the floating ribs) called a mexican 45.

Mind you the source that called it that isn't that great at remembering names :(

[dredleviathan]

Yeah I heard a shovel hook being called a Mexican before. Similarly there is a minor variation on the uppercut called a Cuban I think.

[Tireces]

Those are some pretty retarded names for punches if I do say so myself, doesnt describe whats going on in the motion at all.

[dredleviathan]

Does a roundhouse kick actually involve a round house? Is a Teep a badly spelled all-terrain vehicle?

They're just names mate not all of them are descriptive. I think the Mexican/Cuban names come from boxing and reflect the use of these techniques by fighters from these countries (and yes of course they are used all over). Its like in other martial arts you get the box punch, the bolo punch...

No need to be so literal.

Dred

[Tireces]

A roundhouse kick does involve going all the way around, so the name does describe the motion. As for a teep...Ive never even heard anything called a "teep".

[Adam]

Teep is the muay thai push kick. See this thread for details: http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2218

[YODA]

Yes - Mexican hook = Shovel hook (You been talking to Rick again FF?)

Teep / Tiip = Muay Thai push kick as already said.

[dredleviathan]

Tireces - in response to your post...

Those are some pretty retarded names for punches if I do say so myself, doesnt describe whats going on in the motion at all.

...my point was that some terms aren't necessarily descriptive of the action. This doesn't make them or the people that use them retarded.

I do understand the term roundhouse but when taken literally it does not involve anything going round a house. In other martial arts this is not called a roundhouse kick. Doesn't mean that these other terms are invalid. In fact in the various arts I study or have studied in the past there is little agreement as to the naming of specific techniques.

The fact that you didn't know what a teep was indicates that you haven't necessarily been exposed to Muay Thai but rather than ask what a teep was you just said "never heard of it". One of the things that MAP allows us to do is compare and contrast with individuals studying martial arts that we are not involved in. Sometimes this doesn't work out and we get the "your style is retarded" type comment and other times we learn something useful.

Dred

[Tireces]

I never said styles or people were retarded. I said the names were. I believe it is a rather ridiculous practice to give an attack a name that doesnt describe it at all. Thanks for putting words in my mouth though.

[SteveJKDUK]

How does a JKD hook kick hook?

[Freeform]

Yes - Mexican hook = Shovel hook (You been talking to Rick again FF?)


Cheers Dave, and yes. I was being fed pads,

'Cross!' - whack!

'Hook!' - whack!

'Mexican!' - 'A what?' 'Never mind.' :D

Col

[Tireces]

Originally posted by SteveJKDUK
How does a JKD hook kick hook?

It describes a rounded motion. A "mexican" describes...nothing, unless youre a boxing culture enthusiast. Im sorry if you like the name, but I dont. I believe part of JKD is understanding things in terms of motion instead of "moves", and giving out names to attacks that give one absolutely no idea of what the motion is begins to take away from this. What I dont understand, is why on earth are people jumping to defend such bizarre names for moves if I don't like them?

[dredleviathan]

What I dont understand, is why on earth are people jumping to defend such bizarre names for moves if I don't like them?

Perhaps because the original question was to clarify what was meant by the term rather than whether or not you thought it was a "retarded name".

Understanding of motion rather than specific techniques is most definitely part of JKD. However, the operative word in that last sentence is "understanding". To be understanding you need to keep an open mind. The reason I jumped down your throat in this instance is not necessarily because I really wanted to defend the use of the term "Mexican" but more due to your use of the term "retarded".

I would have thought it sufficient to understand that a Mexican = a shovel hook - no need to judge the term that a certain element of the boxing fraternity wish to give it.