Bahasa with translation OK?

[Gajah Silat]

I just wondered, before we end up with another verbal war of attrition between 'factions', that maybe Bahasa Indonesia could be used as long as a translation in English is also given?

That way everyone gets to learn some :)

By the way, to all those without any Indonesian, it was only a bit of small talk and nothing clandestine ;)

[Rebo Paing]

Seribu ma'af Mas Tristan (a thousand pardons Mas Tristan)

It was because of my post that your thread was deleted :( .

I hope your Bushi No Te 23rd Annual Gathering goes well.

You said "Wis suwe ora ketemu" (It's been a long time since we met).
My best friend when I was small in the village was named Sutrisno, the son of Mbah Tahir who owned a warung (small shop) near the pasar (market) at the cross-roads, they left for Jakarta after I knew him for 1 year.
I'd imagine he look silimar to you when he become mature. You are not he?

Wassalam
Krisno

[Orang Jawa]

Seribu ma'af Mas Tristan (a thousand pardons Mas Tristan)

It was because of my post that your thread was deleted :( .

I hope your Bushi No Te 23rd Annual Gathering goes well.

You said "Wis suwe ora ketemu" (It's been a long time since we met).
My best friend when I was small in the village was named Sutrisno, the son of Mbah Tahir who owned a warung (small shop) near the pasar (market) at the cross-roads, they left for Jakarta after I knew him for 1 year.
I'd imagine he look silimar to you when he become mature. You are not he?

Wassalam
Krisno

Salam Mas Krisno,
It wasn't me :) I was just singing the old Jawa song :)
You don't have to feel sorry, I think the moderator tried his best to moderate this forum. However, I have a question to Sarge, this is silat forum, right? Silat origin is Indonesia or Malaysia. IMHO, if you are learning silat don't you have also learn the culture at the very least the bahasa? I wasn't Japanese, when I studied Iaijutsu all the command in Japanesse. I learn some greeting and few words in Japanese Language. I was intrigue to learn the language.
I second the GJ suggestion. Use the bahasa as long as the interpretation is included.
And I could be wrong too, I was not the moderator...and I hope the moderator of silat forum lean silat too. :)
Tristan

[Sgt_Major]

I have studied Pencak Cimande for 3 (ish) years.

Learning the language is a personal choice, I dont believe it is necessary for every pesilat to be able to speak the language, but I will allow Indonesian/Malay posts, as long as a translation is provided.

As well as excluding non lingual people from conversation, it made my job harder to see if any rules were being broken.

Sarge

[Gajah Silat]

it made my job harder to see if any rules were being broken.

And completely stuffed when it's in Javanese :D

I just thought it may be a way of continuing with the relative harmony of late :)

[Orang Jawa]

I have studied Pencak Cimande for 3 (ish) years.

Learning the language is a personal choice, I dont believe it is necessary for every pesilat to be able to speak the language, but I will allow Indonesian/Malay posts, as long as a translation is provided.

As well as excluding non lingual people from conversation, it made my job harder to see if any rules were being broken.

Sarge

Selamat Sarge,
Thanks for the info. Good for you, Tjimande student to another....I knew a litle Tjimande myself.
I do agree with you, learning to speak the language is a personal choice. I do understand the complexity of being moderator and on top of it is trying to balance your opinon and the opinion of others. Thank you!
My appology of for using the old Jawa language. Honestly, I did not speak too well either. I remember when I was a child, mother who are from Solo, she had the Kraton blood in her. To hear how she talk to her peer, is foreign to me. Even in Jawa language have three different language. The upper, the average and the commoners.
Most Indonesian grew up with many mixed language in their house, so for us, it is becomes a habit learning another language. In my house where I grew up, my parent speaks with Dutch, Indonesian, English, Jawa, and Betawi, all mixed up together in one sentence. Confusing for any foreigner who come to visit our house. They thoughts they can speak Indonesian :)
Again my appology for giving you a hard times and thank you.
Tristan

[Sgt_Major]

No problem mate, just keeping things flowing in a nice manner :D

[Gajah Silat]

Most Indonesian grew up with many mixed language in their house, so for us, it is becomes a habit learning another language. In my house where I grew up, my parent speaks with Dutch, Indonesian, English, Jawa, and Betawi, all mixed up together in one sentence. Confusing for any foreigner who come to visit our house. They thoughts they can speak Indonesian

Tell me about it :rolleyes:

When I visit the in laws there's often a mixed bag of Indonesians about. Starts off in Bahasa Indonesia which isn't too bad as I usualy follow the conversation. Then when they talk about me it switches to Jawa. Then some Balinese friends turn up. Then Piet the Dutch guy pops around...... :confused:

All this is peppered with bits and bobs of English. It certainly gets confusing for the poor old bule (European/foriegner) :confused:

And what about something as simple as 'I'? You just get your Aku & saya sorted then you get to Jakarta and its all gue from the Hokkien Chinese. :D

A linguistic & cultural minefield :D :D

[Rebo Paing]

GS said :

A linguistic & cultural minefield :D :D

Ya (yes)! Inggih (yes), it's certainly begitu (that way) isn't it :D :woo:

Salam