How many Fight(s)? And acceptable? [Archive]

Nomadwanders

01-Jun-2006, 08:47 PM

Does getting sucker-punched count as a "fight"? :rolleyes:

If no, then one in high school. If yes, then probably 2-3... all many years ago and long before I started training in martial arts. Oh yeah, and I certainly regret one of them, as the sucker punch I received needed a couple of stitches in my lip.

People tend not to pick fights with me now, and I don't tend to be in places where they're likely to happen. I also don't drink much anymore, so don't seem to have many "opportunities".

Sever

01-Jun-2006, 08:52 PM

Too many when I was younger (I had a bit of a short fuse), but the number's dwindled as I've gotten older and allegedly wiser. I wouldn't say I was proud of any of them, but in quite a few of the situations I'd say I'd do the same thing now.
These days, most of the time I've found myself able to de-escalate the situation verbally since the only people who really try to start fights with me are drunk chavs in my local dive. If verbal de-escalation doesn't work, I just point to the table full of scary looking metallers (my friends), that usually shuts them up

YingZhauQuan

01-Jun-2006, 09:53 PM

I was forced to train in martial arts because my father is a teacher and wants me to protect myself, always said to me better to get in trouble then to get bullied or go to jail rather than get killed so I got in many fights in school i cant remember how many but in china a bunch of kids gang up on you if you ask me how many fights i got with weapons it would be 6kids in a row 1 fight

Slindsay

02-Jun-2006, 10:01 AM

If you don't count anything under the age of sixteen then none though I've run away from some really good one's.

Under the age of sixteen then I'm in the don't remember category though most of those come under the category of organised beating rather than anything else.

If you count competition fights then I've had one Jitsu grappling comp and 6 WTF TKD ones.

wildirishrose19

04-Jun-2006, 07:58 PM

Well,I've been involved in some fights during junior high (there was a guy that really pissed me of :mad: ) and 3 maybe in highschool (one was a really fun one..it was a joke between me a a very good friend..we did that one for fun..yeah I know I'm not normal :p )...But none was a real fight in the pure sense,because we didn't mean to break our legs or somethin'...

doublelegtackle

04-Jun-2006, 08:20 PM

more like shoving contest's and then me tackling them.

Angelus

05-Jun-2006, 02:19 PM

I had a few fights ...none that i think i could avoid ..nobody was seriously injured so i really dont regret it :D

Skrom

05-Jun-2006, 02:55 PM

haven't had any fights since i hit high school. i sort of had one last year, but it was a mutual thing and i made a point of ending it quickly with a submission to avoid broken faces and whatnot (it was on a school campus, i probably would have been expelled :p )

ramboboy

06-Jun-2006, 03:54 AM

guys walk up to me n they know i know martial arts soo they start the ight but i finish it the best i can buy self control n try not to heart them so bad

Yohan

06-Jun-2006, 02:34 PM

guys walk up to me n they know i know martial arts soo they start the ight but i finish it the best i can buy self control n try not to heart them so bad

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I see you've dropped another stinky doodoo turd on my forum. Please excuse me whilst I laugh.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

And just in case there is anyone who can't read this crap, I'll translate it:

Guys walk up to me and the know I know martial arts. They start the fight, but I finish it the best I can, using self control. I try not to hurt (heart? LOL) them too bad.

BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA

Reakt

06-Jun-2006, 04:06 PM

hahahaha, well he is 16, but I'd be careful, according to him he blackbelts in 5 martial arts, some of them dont even use belts so thats kinda odd I guess, plus he can also break legs in 6 places.

Watch yourself Yohan, sounds badass.

TigerDude

06-Jun-2006, 07:09 PM

I see you've dropped another stinky doodoo turd on my forum. Please excuse me whilst I laugh.

Big man.

Not.

Hui Xiu

07-Jun-2006, 01:59 PM

I agree with Oscar De La Hoya, "I don't fight for free" :cool:

judojedi

07-Jun-2006, 02:53 PM

on the street (and school yard) - more that i can remember... all before taking up MA. i'm sure you will all be most pleased to hear that i won most of them.

never been in a street fight since taking up MA tho. (i dont count the general scuffles and grapples i get involved in during work)

on the mat my competition record is 15-8-1

fogo

08-Jun-2006, 04:36 AM

How many fight(s) have you been involved in? Is it necessary? Do you regret after you fight?

If you can, please briefly summarize a story of some sort.

Thanks

how many fights? more than i can remember or count,

growing up in the hood makes it necessary cause if you dont fight your getting your butt kicked

and the only time i regreted a fight is when i take it too far, and im still tryin to work on that.

shoto-kali

14-Jun-2006, 03:29 AM

i grew up in manila philippines, at 7 my parents enrolled me to VILCAT (Shotokan Karate Style Club) as soon I get into sparring I end up fighting all my friends and cousin just to test what i've learned ... then H.S. came, atleast the 1st 2yrs i've been involved in 8fight and the last 2yrs atleast 2-fight, ... college days, got into 3fight ...

Qis

14-Jun-2006, 03:53 AM

none,
Been hit and recieved a kicking, but a fight suggests i retaliated in any way.
Both times i've been attacked i didn't retaliate, and looking back on them, if i'd retaliated in either situation it'd have ended up a lot worse(for me).more than 6 on 1 is just not gonna work out. especially if i'm the 1.

-Qis

leon_x

14-Jun-2006, 06:10 AM

this year so far, 2. both involving a bad game of football. the last one i had half the team tryin to kick my head in on the floor :woo:

but in my life i have no idea, nothing to be proud of but nothing to regret

Hades

15-Jun-2006, 08:24 AM

Have fought a couple of times in bars and on the street.. nothing to be proud of...

But with some people, arguing just doesn't work..

I've been jumped a couple of times.. or well.. they tried to jump me a couple of times.. the first time I smacked the nearest dude, and the others backed of.. the second time I ran..

leon_x

15-Jun-2006, 09:45 AM

I've been jumped a couple of times.. or well.. they tried to jump me a couple of times.. the first time I smacked the nearest dude, and the others backed of.. the second time I ran..

you was lucky, been jumped a few times in my life. even when i hit the first guy the others still jumped me. the only thing you can do is to curl up and hope for the best.

ember

15-Jun-2006, 11:28 PM

Can't remember, and not sure how many of them count as real "fights". One schoolboy thing, walking home, two of them on me. Lots of scuffles at home. Never anything broken, rarely any blood, and only once that I knew exactly where a bruise came from.

Hades

16-Jun-2006, 08:13 AM

you was lucky, been jumped a few times in my life. even when i hit the first guy the others still jumped me. the only thing you can do is to curl up and hope for the best.

Yeah.. I'm normally a very calm, happy, non-agressive dude.. and it takes a while to get that.. click.. but then I snap.. and get really pissed.. that's why they backed off.. the second time.. i didn't get that snap.. and had to ran..

Curling up won't do much good I think.. keep blocking, and trying to get back up

tom pain

16-Jun-2006, 09:00 AM

None. Never been hit or started on or anything. Guess I've been pretty lucky. *touches wooden desk*

Actually I lie. Some guy punched me in the mouth in college on accident - he was having a mucky fight with his friend and as I walked past I got caught with a stray fist. He was very apologetic over it and still smiles whenever he sees me.

Agutrot-

17-Jun-2006, 12:06 AM

He was very apologetic over it and still smiles whenever he sees me.

You should get his number.

judojedi

17-Jun-2006, 10:46 AM

You should get his number.

lmao :D

kungfoolery

17-Jun-2006, 05:32 PM

lmao 2 :D

i dunno how you cant fight back, or how you could jsut run away... id rather feel pain for a few hours than feel dishonored for a lifetime. besides, bones heal and chicks dig scars :)

tom pain

17-Jun-2006, 06:05 PM

i dunno how you cant fight back, or how you could jsut run away... id rather feel pain for a few hours than feel dishonored for a lifetime. besides, bones heal and chicks dig scars :)

If only the outcome of every fight was that simple.

kungfoolery

17-Jun-2006, 06:50 PM

Well that's where we must differ, my concern lies in my self-respect... not the 'outcome of the fight'

tom pain

17-Jun-2006, 09:30 PM

Well that's where we must differ, my concern lies in my self-respect... not the 'outcome of the fight'

You would rather risk getting your head kicked in (and it's not rare for people to be in comas from this) with dire consequences - than just walk away?

:confused:

kungfoolery

18-Jun-2006, 12:55 AM

adouglasmhor

18-Jun-2006, 04:17 PM

kungfoolery

18-Jun-2006, 07:28 PM

i have different ideals than you, how can you pass that off as immaturity??

adouglasmhor

18-Jun-2006, 10:25 PM

i have different ideals than you, how can you pass that off as immaturity??
did I
really

kungfoolery

18-Jun-2006, 10:58 PM

yes
you did
im assuming
you can
back it
up

adouglasmhor

19-Jun-2006, 07:28 AM

yes
you did
im assuming
you can
back it
up

Man, i explained myself already, its simple... i would rather risk a kicking (whatever that includes) than have to live with myself after curling up or bailing. dont make me repeat myeslf, its tedious.

Obviously no one has given you a good enough hiding, yet, I mean a wheeled into casualty, face like a burst couch, family round the bed, walking like a pensioner with arthritis for a week or two, cops asking questions and permanent scars leathering, maybe then you will see how immature your posts make you sound.

Gajah Silat

19-Jun-2006, 10:29 AM

Man, i explained myself already, its simple... i would rather risk a kicking (whatever that includes) than have to live with myself after curling up or bailing. dont make me repeat myeslf, its tedious.

When I was 18 I got a serious 'kicking'. Unsuspectingly sucker punched from behind and stamped on. All because of my appearance :confused:

I spent 4 days in a coma. A month in hospital. Had multiple skull fractures. Swelling of the brain for 18months after. And that's just the head injuries :eek:

It's a bad idea to take a kicking :rolleyes:

kungfoolery

19-Jun-2006, 06:54 PM

Obviously no one has given you a good enough hiding, yet, I mean a wheeled into casualty, face like a burst couch, family round the bed, walking like a pensioner with arthritis for a week or two, cops asking questions and permanant scars leathering, maybe then you will see how immature your posts make you sound.

one thing i cant understand is people who think they know what your experiences are without ever meeting you. ive got my scars fella, and im used to the stares... as far as 'good hidings' go, im not gonna waste my time reeling of my past but as an example, the last situation i walked into involved 6 pakistani gangsters and a pit bull. for the third time, id rather be in teh **** than live with myself knowing i gave up (someone has a quote on here that i like a lot: "courage is being scared shitless and still saddling up" - Jon Wayne). i think its ironic you call me immature, because you formed that opinion by not being able to understand that i simply have different priorities than you, to me that proves you havent grown out of the rigid belief of your ideals... and even worse than that your trying to project them on other people.

adouglasmhor

19-Jun-2006, 07:09 PM

one thing i cant understand is people who think they know what your experiences are without ever meeting you. ive got my scars fella, and im used to the stares... as far as 'good hidings' go, im not gonna waste my time reeling of my past but as an example, the last situation i walked into involved 6 pakistani gangsters and a pit bull. for the third time, id rather be in teh **** than live with myself knowing i gave up (someone has a quote on here that i like a lot: "courage is being scared shitless and still saddling up" - Jon Wayne). i think its ironic you call me immature, because you formed that opinion by not being able to understand that i simply have different priorities than you, to me that proves you havent grown out of the rigid belief of your ideals... and even worse than that your trying to project them on other people.

Bwaaaaaaah :D

Sever

19-Jun-2006, 07:27 PM

kungfoolery

19-Jun-2006, 07:43 PM

tom pain

19-Jun-2006, 07:47 PM

I can accept that maybe in a one-on-one fight you may not want to run away - fair enough, if you have a chance to beat the guy it may be the best option (not always though - and I'm not encouragiing any of you to go head first into fights :) ) but:

the last situation i walked into involved 6 pakistani gangsters and a pit bull. for the third time, id rather be in teh **** than live with myself knowing i gave up
that is just suicidal. Man I would have been out of there in a shot - and I'm not afraid to admit it. Being a coward is one thing - having common sense is something totally different.

kungfoolery

19-Jun-2006, 07:53 PM

its rarely one to one on the street, but like ya said i must lack common sense, whatever... im sick of this thread, i give my opinion and get a load of crap for it cause you wouldnt do the same. why do some people have to convince others to 'do things their way', if u dont like it then fine, leave it

adouglasmhor

19-Jun-2006, 08:42 PM

alrighty, im gonna take that as 'i dont believe ya', which is your fault.. i have no reason to lie, in fact its quite pompous of you to think that im here to impress you. i was forced into justifyin my initial statements so i did.
i would have been insulted by that but it just means you have nothing left to say :)

Yes it is quite pompous of me not to believe a teenager's tales of six Pakistani gangsters and a pit bull, bull is the only thing that rang true. I have nothing to say to you because I am not a presenter on CBBC or your therapist. By the way anyone who believes you can feel free to join in and disagree with me, I won't hold my breath.

As for reasons to lie, low self esteem, dangerous fantasist in training, keyboard warrior, the list is endless.

adouglasmhor

19-Jun-2006, 11:22 PM

ive got my scars fella,

Post some pictures and how you got them, I was six years in the Army, worked the doors. and ran with a wild team when I was younger and can tell a lot about how scars happened, If they look genuine I will appologise if you feed me any rubbish i will call you on it, OK?

kungfoolery

20-Jun-2006, 02:34 PM

alright i see how youd need proof, but i really dont like the idea having to post that **** for everyone to see. despite that, your somethin of a stubborn jerk so i figure i wont live your insult down unless i prove my 'bull'. though i still dont feel i have anything to prove to you, callin me out as a liar is (how can i say it politely) very aggrivating... its always the guys who think they're tough that call BS the most, makes sense though.

slipthejab

20-Jun-2006, 02:38 PM

oh goody. Let's see the battle wounds of this Wing Chun warrior...

*pulls up chair, throws up feet and reaches for the popcorn.

leon_x

20-Jun-2006, 03:45 PM

Curling up won't do much good I think.. keep blocking, and trying to get back up

it is nearly impossible to get back up when you are surrounded by a group of guys hitting and kicking you. and even if you try to, you will leave your vital organs exposed. fair enough if there are only 3/4 guys but anything more than that is hard. as soon as you try to get back up someone will hit you back to the floor. it was my friends bday last friday and myself and another guy dropped him to the floor and started beating him, he is much bigger than us and he couldnt even get up with only two of us (but we was drunk).

curling up in the foetus position covering your head has helped me in the past. for a start your legs are blocking blows to your body and your arms are covering your head. the best thing to do is try and not let yourself get in those situations.

leon_x

20-Jun-2006, 04:13 PM

lmao 2 :D

i dunno how you cant fight back, or how you could jsut run away... id rather feel pain for a few hours than feel dishonored for a lifetime. besides, bones heal and chicks dig scars :)

a broken arm, a coma doesnt last a few hours. obviously you was lucky in your fights. there is no dishonour in losing a fight or walking away especially when you are outnumbered. and if you really feel you have to fight, walk away and come back with more people or a weapon. you always have more options when you have more time.

btw you never told us what happened with the pit bull? :D

kungfoolery

20-Jun-2006, 04:28 PM

oh goody. Let's see the battle wounds of this Wing Chun warrior...

*pulls up chair, throws up feet and reaches for the popcorn.

...another feeble jab, but you can forget it... 'adouglasmhor' owes me an apology so hes the only one i owe any proof.

leon_x u wanna know what happened, add me on your msn and i ill fill ya in :). yeah i dont doubt ive had some luck, but wtf is wrong with you???? if you cant accept some people do and think about some things differently then deal with it, i shouldnt have to defend everything i say, and then defend my defense.

Yohan

20-Jun-2006, 04:53 PM

i shouldnt have to defend everything i say, and then defend my defense.

Well, if you wouldn't post crap to begin with, you wouldn't have to defend it, nor the crap that defends the crap that you posted originally.

leon_x

20-Jun-2006, 04:54 PM

but wtf is wrong with you???? if you cant accept some people do and think about some things differently then deal with it, i shouldnt have to defend everything i say, and then defend my defense.

was that aimed at me??? i didnt say i doubted you, i just disagree on your views on honour and things. i rather walk away from the fight and go sleep in my own bed than a hospital bed.

tom pain

20-Jun-2006, 04:57 PM

was that aimed at me??? i didnt say i doubted you, i just disagree on your views on honour and things. i rather walk away from the fight and go sleep in my own bed than a hospital bed.

Thank you. What I was saying all along.

kungfoolery

20-Jun-2006, 05:14 PM

OK! FANTASTIC, THATS FINE... its people like yohan i have a problem with, i didnt come on here say "oh you guys are pussies and cant handle yourselves and i can cause im a hard bastard and blah blah blah". no cause i wouldnt crap on someone for getting out of a dangerous situation, if thats their nature than good, less problems for them. but somehow its ok to castigate me for not doing the same thing?? wtf is that?... i have a problem walking away from things, how the hell is that offensive to anyone else? get real, talking to me like im immature and you yourself cant even let go of someone elses personal opinion.

leon_x

20-Jun-2006, 05:26 PM

obviously you never had a beating so bad to change your views. if someone had a gun in your face, would u still be a hero?

kungfoolery

20-Jun-2006, 05:54 PM

<<deleted a post full of profanity - Aegis>>

slipthejab

20-Jun-2006, 06:26 PM

...another feeble jab, but you can forget it... 'adouglasmhor' owes me an apology so hes the only one i owe any proof.

err.. feeble?

Let me see... you posted this:

im not gonna waste my time reeling of my past but as an example, the last situation i walked into involved 6 pakistani gangsters and a pit bull.

I'd say that's one of the biggest fish stories ever told on MAP.
So you're on about the scar... come on... post up.
I think your story is one big funky piece of tripe.

but hey... let's get some public consensus on it:

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54623

do be sure to vote.

kungfoolery

20-Jun-2006, 06:44 PM

well then its a good job i have no respect for your opinion, isnt it? :)
what i said was true, its insulting that you think im insecure enough to <<removed - Aegis>> people i dont even know... but i cant change what you do and do not believe. at the same time im kinda flattered that you think thats so unbelieveable, :Dlol

Xav

20-Jun-2006, 06:47 PM

kungfoolery, are you

1) childish
2) stupid
3) retarded
4) frustrated because you have no friends and get beaten up?

seriously dude...if you want to look though make up stories that SOME PEOPLE might believe instaed of your fights with "gangsters".
If you ever were in a real fight you'r prolly gonna pee on yourself

quit the bull

Sever

20-Jun-2006, 07:00 PM

Yup, summer's started. Silly Season's here! :D Any newbies that haven't been on MAP during the summer (especially during the kids summer hols), buckle up - things are gonna get wild :D
Kungfoolery - if you're going to post such out there stories, don't get the hump when people call BS on it - it reads like BS, it smells like it, people will call it BS. Watch the language too

Aegis

20-Jun-2006, 07:03 PM

Guys, watch the languase and the personal attacks.

Kungfoolery, I just had to delete an entire post of yours, keep it up and I'll drop you in the sin bin to calm down a little.

Otherwise continue, but be civil and stick to the rules (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/maprules.htm)

Yohan

20-Jun-2006, 07:52 PM

OK! FANTASTIC, THATS FINE... its people like yohan i have a problem with

Is that right?

What seems to be the problem?

adouglasmhor

20-Jun-2006, 08:39 PM

...another feeble jab, but you can forget it... 'adouglasmhor' owes me an apology so hes the only one i owe any proof.

leon_x u wanna know what happened, add me on your msn and i ill fill ya in :). yeah i dont doubt ive had some luck, but wtf is wrong with you???? if you cant accept some people do and think about some things differently then deal with it, i shouldnt have to defend everything i say, and then defend my defense.

I owe you what? I owe you a good hour on the naughty step little man, that's what I owe you.

slipthejab

20-Jun-2006, 09:09 PM

you could always get him over your knee and sizzle his tender little rump roast. :p

adouglasmhor

20-Jun-2006, 09:11 PM

you could always get him over your knee and sizzle his tender little rump roast. :p

yopu know you are the only man for me slip :love:

slipthejab

20-Jun-2006, 09:12 PM

I feel the heat in my buns already...
sizzle away! :p

Yohan

20-Jun-2006, 09:35 PM

Ah . . . spring is in the air!

Mr Punch

21-Jun-2006, 12:53 AM

OK stats fans!

21 including school fights (I still remember them quite clearly and they included a couple of valuable lessons), sucker punches (and headbutts!), and splitting up other people's fights at some risk and damage to myself.

Not including school fights, 15.

Not including sucker attacks, 18.

Not including sucker attacks or school fights, 15 (all the sucker attacks were at school).

Times I ran away: 1.

Times I got licked and talked/pleaded my way out of a more serious licking: 3.

Fights with weapons: 3 (not including 1 where the kids were almost certainly packing but I never saw it).

Times I incurred serious damage: 1. (2 if you count a drunken playfight that got heated which I haven't included in the other stats)

Mutiple person attacks: 5.

Muggings: 2.

Times some of the fight was spent on the ground (apart from just being hit and falling over without some kind of continuation): 3.

I'm probably forgetting some here (hit in the head too much! :D ) (edit: just remembered another 2 but can't be bothered to change all the stats). By the way, there's not a category for me, unless I go in can't remember because I can't remember all of them... I didn't think I'd had such an unusual experience... is there really no-one else who's had so many round here?

And no, I'm not a violent person but I did live in a very violent area for some time.

...bull...That part of your post must be true.

OK, there was one time when I was surrounded by about 8 Pakistani lads, but I rode a punch, pushed the leader, and talked my way out of it (no pleading that time, I was quite aggressive), and then a huge, well-known Rasta gangster acquaintance of mine came and broke it up. So if I say these kids were in a gang (in the sense of a group) I can even say they were gangsters (they may have been, it was that kind of area).

So what's your story Foolery? Just say what happened and it'll give people another chance to call you on it.

Yup, summer's started. Silly Season's here! Which season is not silly round here?! :D

I owe you what? I owe you a good hour on the naughty step little man, that's what I owe you.That was very very funny.

kungfoolery

21-Jun-2006, 08:16 PM

i apologise, it was foolish to think i could slip that by you, who have known me for so many years now... i must digress, it appears im being ganged up on, again ;)

MartialJac

21-Jun-2006, 08:28 PM

OK stats fans!

21 including school fights (I still remember them quite clearly and they included a couple of valuable lessons), sucker punches (and headbutts!), and splitting up other people's fights at some risk and damage to myself.

Not including school fights, 15.

Not including sucker attacks, 18.

Not including sucker attacks or school fights, 15 (all the sucker attacks were at school).

Times I ran away: 1.

Times I got licked and talked/pleaded my way out of a more serious licking: 3.

Fights with weapons: 3 (not including 1 where the kids were almost certainly packing but I never saw it).

Times I incurred serious damage: 1. (2 if you count a drunken playfight that got heated which I haven't included in the other stats)

Mutiple person attacks: 5.

Muggings: 2.

Times some of the fight was spent on the ground (apart from just being hit and falling over without some kind of continuation): 3.

I'm probably forgetting some here (hit in the head too much! :D ) (edit: just remembered another 2 but can't be bothered to change all the stats). By the way, there's not a category for me, unless I go in can't remember because I can't remember all of them... I didn't think I'd had such an unusual experience... is there really no-one else who's had so many round here?

And no, I'm not a violent person but I did live in a very violent area for some time.

That part of your post must be true.

OK, there was one time when I was surrounded by about 8 Pakistani lads, but I rode a punch, pushed the leader, and talked my way out of it (no pleading that time, I was quite aggressive), and then a huge, well-known Rasta gangster acquaintance of mine came and broke it up. So if I say these kids were in a gang (in the sense of a group) I can even say they were gangsters (they may have been, it was that kind of area).

So what's your story Foolery? Just say what happened and it'll give people another chance to call you on it.

Which season is not silly round here?! :D

That was very very funny.

And you a teacher, one that complains that I knocked a guy out in school life isn't quite as B&W is it? Whats the word HYPa hypacr Hipa no need some help here

Mr Punch

22-Jun-2006, 02:30 PM

And you a teacher, one that complains that I knocked a guy out in school life isn't quite as B&W is it? Whats the word HYPa hypacr Hipa no need some help hereNot quite sure when I complained about anything you've (allegedly) done. Which thread was that? Didn't I just say you were a silly little boy? And come to mention it, isn't past your bedtime yet?

MartialJac

22-Jun-2006, 02:48 PM

Not quite sure when I complained about anything you've (allegedly) done. Which thread was that? Didn't I just say you were a silly little boy? And come to mention it, isn't past your bedtime yet?

So why where did you call me a silly boy then? And as for my bedtime I think the fact that you are a teacher has ruined your perspective on young martial artists, I don't harp on about your pipe, slippers and viagra do I?

leon_x

22-Jun-2006, 03:06 PM

<<deleted a post full of profanity - Aegis>>

ahhhh i missed the joke!!!!

Mr Punch

22-Jun-2006, 03:34 PM

So why where did you call me a silly boy then? And as for my bedtime I think the fact that you are a teacher has ruined your perspective on young martial artists, I don't harp on about your pipe, slippers and viagra do I?So a perfectly reasonable thread doesn't get deleted, let's stick with the subject shall we?

1) I never said anything was black and white.

2) You should point out more clearly where I'm being a hypocrite, especially since I haven't made any judgment on your actions yet, other than a childish and evidently completely flippant throwaway remark! :D... so where I said I thought fighting was wrong, or on the other hand where I said even what I did in any of the above examples...

3) In none of those fights bar two could I have been said to have instigated or not to have tried to defuse the situation at all costs. In one case at school I went for one kid who was much bigger than me a mild bully, and his three friends and showed me the error of my ways (though I have to say they were very reasonable), and in one case the guy who kicked the hell out of me (a renowned violent offender, smack dealing pikey) claimed I had been aggressive to one of his goons... I don't know if I had as I was drunk, but I suspect it was my abrasive drunken sense of humour (the goon later pallied up to me and said I had not been aggressive)...

4) In NONE of the above cases did I seriously damage anyone, not through lack of ability or opportunity, and I'm very proud of that fact, except in one case where I sometimes wonder to this day if I and the rest of the world might have been better off if I'd really put the hurts on the knife wielding crackhead who tried to mug me. But generally I was protecting myself, my friends, my family, or even strangers. Now where did I put my cape? :Angel:

5) If you have a point to make, now would be the time. If you just want to try to insult me because I'm a teacher give it your best shot! :D If you want to take issue with my childishness, I suggest the original thread. And btw, I don't smoke, I don't usually wear slippers (though this is Japan and all kinds of strange footwear are sometimes in order) and I have no need for viagra. You, on the other hand, are 12. When I was 12 I had a bedtime.

wado nasskc

22-Jun-2006, 04:57 PM

i had one real fight before i started karate, guy hit me i hit him back he bottled it and walked away. absolutly no fights since i started karte

Snake+CQC

23-Jun-2006, 05:37 AM

Before I got into any martial arts (unless you call boxing a martial art) I got into 4 fights. None of them were serious enough to have a weapon or anything. I'd say I won all of them as well. Generally someone would push things too far and I would finish it. (not trying to brag, I'm sure just about anyone on this forum could kick my butt)

fthl

27-Jun-2006, 12:40 PM

be nice to the foolery chap. He is simply stating that he would rather be in prison/dead than alive/at liberty. Personally, such a position seems madness incarnate to me, but then I'm quite attached to life, and am fairly convinced that this is the only one we get.

And I hate funerals, they are very miserable affairs.

Alot of younguns have this type of opinion. Nearly all of them change their views as they get older. Foolery - please come back and re-state your opinion on this matter in 10 years. If you re-read this thread I think you'll be surprised at who you were. Hell, we all do stuff in our youth we regret. Hells bells...on one occasion i had to move out of my uni halls of residence due to a libido that really should have been controlled...still you live and learn. If you live, of course...

As for his experience with asian gangsters and el pooch de mort, that is his own story and the only one the truth really matters to is him - if it is crap then he will know it and it will be obvious in his demeanor and outlook to life.

Steven Segal was in the cia, y'know....

Fights? None since school. Couple of confrontations that didn't go further than that in my first year at uni. after that, nought, and proud of it.

Angelus

28-Jun-2006, 05:48 AM

anyways ...fighting is BAD

tkdmusclerock

28-Jun-2006, 07:18 AM

Last "street fight" I was involved in was when I was about 15; there may have been some intoxicants involved. My philosophy is simple: If attacked physically, I will defend myself with everything I have. If I initiate an attack, I feel like I have lost my "ethical high ground." I despise bullies of all kinds, but karma tends to take care of them.

scorpiousmac

28-Jun-2006, 12:25 PM

Loads,up until a few years ago when I calmed down.When I was fighting in school I felt good when I won but when fighting on the streets things escalate,tools come into the picture and things start to get messy.When it's them or you I certainly dont feel guilty but the enjoyment of winning definatly takes a back seat if I have to hurt someone badly to do it.Havent had any fights since I started martial training but if/when it happens if I can use technique to end it quickly with minnimal damage to all concerned then I think I will feel quite happy about it.Of course fighting in the ring is always fun and win or lose I never feel bad about it

butcher wing

29-Jun-2006, 06:47 PM

lmao 2 :D

besides, bones heal and chicks dig scars :)

A ha, a person who quotes Keanu Reeves in "The Replacements".

Thanks for this thread guys. It has been entertaining :)

Devildog2930

29-Jun-2006, 08:46 PM

:woo: Can't remember how many fights I have been envolved in. Nearly every fight I have been involved in starts with me minding my own business drinking my pint and being hit from the blind side. ( Seems to be a common hobby in the south wales valleys attacking people you dont know with out warning) it maybee that I just have the type of face that says HIT ME!

usahed

02-Oct-2006, 10:09 AM

The last street fight i remember being in was about 8th grade (in 11th now) and i can't remember WHY it started but me and my so-called friend got into an argument and he shoved me, (Just like Sever, i had a short fuse) and i hooked him right in the jaw and broke it, first bone i ever broke on some1 lmao, after breaking 2 knuckles and my wrist. But yeah, my last fight that i retaliated in was a while ago, several in high school i have walked away from because it wasnt worth the cops coming and me getting questioned..and no it was NOT acceptable and i regret more than half the fights i got into, totally not worth it man..WALK AWAY AS MUCH AS U CAN, if absolutely needed, fight back:)

JohnLi

07-Nov-2006, 02:59 PM

No fights, had kiddy fights in elementary school but those don't really count. Had a stare down in high school, 20 min. of "I dare you to hit me" which stopped when the bell rang, lol.

I wouldn't consider this a fight, but I was punched once while driving.

I used to have a lot of road rage (a lot better since this incident). I was going about 10km above the speed limit on a 2 lane off ramp. I needed to get in the left lane and there was someone about 3 car lengths behind in that lane. Obviously enough room to get in there. So I signal and we all know these A-holes, they speed up and try to cut you off, I switch lanes successfully with about a car length behind me now, next thing I know he's a foot away from my bumper. So being the ragaholic I was, I broke hard and swerved to ensure he wouldn't get in front of me. After being an ass for a little while, I let him go ahead. He stops in front of me and gets out of his car. Comes to my window and says some cursing then punches me in the face.

I was stunned at this point, never been punched in the face before and never been in a fight. Not knowing what was going to happen next, I went by instinct and just got out of the car as quickly as I could ready to fight.

He ran into his car right away. Still confused I wanted to continue the fight, but after hearing his wife and his 2 kids screaming "daddy, no!!!" and crying, I went back to my car. But I followed him around for a while trying to get him out of the car until I finally calmed down.

I was lucky he wasn't more fit and couldn't punch properly or that could have been ugly.

Fishbone.

12-Feb-2007, 10:42 AM

If your talking school or street fights. Remember it's a workplace enviroment if your talking schools. (12-16?).

Anyway, You dont go out saying your going to get into 10 fights this year, or make it your goal or whatever. None is best, Violence is my last resort.

Rin

21-Feb-2007, 11:35 AM

A few since I don't believe avoiding a fight is up to me. I can be as much "I'm not trying to fight you" as I want but after that its up to the other person.
And yes I always regret fights after they happen, when I realize really how unnecessary it was, especially when its someone who didn't put up much of a fight since I then feel like a bully or a b****.

Rin

21-Feb-2007, 11:41 AM

However I WILL say theres no subsitute for it. When you know you really might get hurt or or maybe even badly injured, composure and awareness is everything. And theres no subsitute for that no matter how many times you hit a bag or spar. It's no good if you practice forms and techniques all day and when it comes to a self defense situation you freeze up and forget everything.
So yeah just like everything else in this world fighting has benefits and negatives. Most of the time however the negatives far out way the positives.

Myst Kitty

25-Feb-2007, 05:15 AM

All of my fights happened when I was a kid. I have been fortunate not to have to fight in my older age.

Cait

25-Feb-2007, 05:20 AM

if you don't count the fights i got into with my brothers... none, actually. been in a few situations at work where i wondered if it was going to happen (had that really interesting moment of calm where everything clears beautifully).. but we have so far managed to de-escalate all of them... here's hoping.

wayne649

06-Jul-2007, 11:47 AM

i've never got in a fight since i started MA's (except sparring) so i'd say my training is working pretty well

RoninCelt

02-Jan-2008, 02:55 AM

None since I started MA (but since the question doesn't really specify, not sure if that's important). Several dozen during my youth/drinking days long ago.

Oh, and yes I regret every one. A couple I even went back a few years later and apologized for.

TheForbiddenOne

07-Jun-2008, 04:44 AM

Wow, never knew the UK was so violent. The number of random gang attacks on you guys is amazing(ly bad).

Vulture

07-Jun-2008, 03:00 PM

I've been involved in two fights. One involving a guy who decided to prove how big his manhood was to his mates. I guess I won that one as he was so suprised I hit back he started screaming he was going to 'Call the police'. Second was a drunk who glassed me before hand, so I was pretty messed up after that. Would like to think I did some damage to him, but as I was already staggered, would be guessing or making stuff up to say I certainly did.

Other than that have largely avoided problems, where I go drinking isn't exactly a violent area. Same for where I live.

Moi

07-Jun-2008, 03:07 PM

Need another option.:o

Stuart H

07-Jun-2008, 11:01 PM

Another bit of mental masturbation in the form of a poll.

1. What does it matter if other board members have been in fights? it doesn't make you any more or less capable of defending yourself.

2. What's with the 'Or never will' option? That assumes you will have a choice not to fight when the **** hits the fan. Sadly you will find that you don't always have the chance to escape.

3. As for the 'And acceptable' in the thread title, I assume you're asking if fighting is socially acceptable. Unless you're actually defending yourself from violence, then no. If you're out of high school and still getting into little sparring matches for ego, then you're a ***** and you need to grow up (that's not directed at you, people in general).

All good?

Moi

07-Jun-2008, 11:08 PM

Stuart H

07-Jun-2008, 11:09 PM

Sometimes you have to fight. It's the only thing some people understand.

Unless you'd rather die like Hapuka (see the Would You Kill thread)

Moi

07-Jun-2008, 11:30 PM

3. As for the 'And acceptable' in the thread title, I assume you're asking if fighting is socially acceptable. Unless you're actually defending yourself from violence, then no. If you're out of high school and still getting into little sparring matches for ego, then you're a ***** and you need to grow up (that's not directed at you, people in general).

This is the bit that was applicable to me. I was in my late 20's before I stopped fighting. Even then I had a couple in in 30's. One was necessary the other I was in a bad mood. Now I'm in my forties I'm quite chilled but you never know................once an ass, I'm either laid back or nuts, always have been. Doubt I've got that many fights left in me though

GSHAMBROOKE

03-Jul-2008, 04:33 AM

Ive been in more fights then i can remember, i was a bit younger i cant realy be botherd now but if i get backed into a corner ill do what an animal would do fight to the death. I try to stay away from places where this might happen.

Southpaw535

20-Aug-2008, 10:14 AM

depends. If you mean serious fights that were probably my fault then I think 3.(I'm a mouthy kid I cant help it) but ive been hit a few times breaking up fights.

Schmeag

20-Aug-2008, 11:15 AM

Never and don't plan to. I'd prefer to take it or back down.

Moi

20-Aug-2008, 11:18 AM

Never and don't plan to. I'd prefer to take it or back down.

We can all pick on you then:cool:

Schmeag

20-Aug-2008, 12:25 PM

Aww dearie, I feel loved. :heart:

DaeHanL

20-Aug-2008, 01:23 PM

I have been in several fights. It used to be over race when i was a kid. (i'm a halfie, so i had to settle things on both sides) then, in my teens it was over ego. In college it was thanks to beer (and ego). Now as an adult it never happens.

Growing up is grand. I hope to never fight again. I only wish my pop would have taught me to settle things with my words and not with violence.

APC

14-Nov-2008, 09:38 PM

I have acted in a manner where I have ended up getting a slap on a number of occasions in my youth; luckily nothing serious. I might have landed one retaliatory punch but I can't be sure. I was literally asking for trouble.

Glad I'm above that sort of behaviour now. It was ten years ago.

Now, I would rather totally avoid confrontation unless I was backed against a wall or protecting my partner, friends or animals. Yes. I have a soft spot for animals.

Mitch

14-Nov-2008, 10:47 PM

I've been in several confrontations.

I've solved all of them via verbal de-escalation techniques. ie I've talked the other guy down.

One (the first) I was suckered in by pre fight verbals and got cold cocked by a good right hook. I rolled, recovered and ran.

Fighting under all circumstances is just stupid, and I'd have finished the first with pre-emption or verbals If I'd known more. There were 8+ of them and 3 of us. We were 18 they were in their mid 20's and experienced streetfighters, we were going to loose.

Fighting is for fools.

Mitch

Like Water

26-Nov-2008, 04:44 AM

I am not one to start a fight as I believe that most altercations can be defused with rationale and words, but in the rare instance that communicating with words didn't work, I've fought on 3 separate occasions. Here's how one of my fights went down...

I was at an annual Halloween frat party which is held at this restaurant right next to a small, private airport. The back patio is rather large and is literally right next to the airfield. Anyway, there's about 300 people there and since it wasn't my frat, there were only a few of us there whereas almost 100 of them. I was with 2 of my good buddies who I got separated from upon entering the party because I snuck in the back way since I didn't wanna wait in line and my buddies were chicken***** lol. I'm on the phone with one of my boys and as I'm trying to navigate him to where I'm standing I raise my hand in the air with the phone and yelling at him since there was a lot going on around us. As I'm doing this one of the dudes in the frat that's throwing the party starts talking all sorts of **** from about 20 feet away. He is dressed up like Santa Claus and is so drunk he somehow thinks I was talking to him when I wasn't even facing his direction. He's like "wtf did you say to me?!?" "blah blah blah" and starts approaching me. I reply to him "what are you talking about? I wasn't even looking at you." because I could tell he was just being a drunken idiot. At this point I can tell he's going to enter my comfort zone, so I put my phone in my pocket quickly and as soon as he crosses my line of range I throw a right cross connecting with his chin, rocking him and he stumbles back then falls forward. I hit him 5 more times before he falls into the big ass planter box that was next to us.

I'm all pumped up from the adrenaline and by this time a huge circle forms around us. People are yelling at me from every angle and my boys finally get to the scene and get my back. After a bunch of arguing goes on for a minute or so, somebody finally got one of the hired security guys to escort me out so I didn't get jumped by the entire frat. As he's escorting us, dude straight up says to me "Damn dude, those were some clean ass hits." I LMAO...

FF to the next day. Turns out my roommate is good buds with one of the guys in the frat whose party I crashed and is close with the dude I busted up. He told my roommate's friend he's sorry for starting the fight. I thought that was pretty cool that even though I kicked his ass that he apologized.

Sorry for the long post, but I figured I'd paint a good picture for ya'll.