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silverfox_y2k
27-Sep-2003, 11:06 PM
Hey there guys,

Just wondering if any of you have attended any keysi, classes, seminars or instructor courses? I see in a particular martial arts magazine in the UK that it seems to be an effective fighting system/concept. I was thinking of perhaps attending a seminar and perhaps if I enjoyed it may do an instructors course.
Are there any keysi instructors/practitioners in London?


Thanks

Wyle_E
13-May-2004, 11:59 PM
Hi

There are three qualified KFM instructors in London atm. But i think only one of them is teaching new students - as part of the Cross Training Academy.

Email them on info@xtracademy.com

W.

Adam
14-May-2004, 10:06 AM
Never heard of keysi. Sounds like another Israeli martial art. Do you have a link or something explaining the concepts and history of the art? Thanks.

JohnnyX
14-May-2004, 10:27 AM
Previous Thread on the subject:
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12666

Cheers. :)

JohnnyX
14-May-2004, 10:43 AM
More info:
http://www.keysi-uk.com/main.html
http://www.xtracademy.com/martialart.htm

The site of Justo Dieguez Founder of the Keysi Fighting Method.
http://www.keysikfm.com/ - Not in English though. :(

My good friend Mr Google probably has more information as well. :D

Cheers. :)

keysi-nailbomb
31-Aug-2005, 08:04 PM
i have attended keysi classes for over a year at ROB LOCKS ACADEMY and i love it,i think its the most devastating martial arts that i have ever seen and i have trained in many other styles over the years,i have done a seminar up at the KEYSI SUPERCENTRE in hull may this year and met most of the crew down there "andy norman doesnt half hit hard he made my mouth bleed"lol.but yeah its an awesome art in a world of its own, great body mechanics and devastating blows its almost artistic with the way the body functions.and how you can control other people within a fight,the trapping side to it is awesome something i have never seen before.it is very good martial arts it covers from standing to ground in a unique way.and everything else in between.so altogether i would say its the best for the street.no doubt.above everyhting else it is real.so just try it for yourselves.

Keysi_chick
01-Sep-2005, 11:43 AM
Hey have to say i agree with you keysi-nailbomb (quite a peculiar name :D )
the training is amazing, the overall theory of it is just superb ie. the thought process behind it. im currently on the instructors course, year1 and im thoroughly enjoying every damn minute of it. Its unlike any martial art that ive seen before and is just way awesome. :D

tel
01-Sep-2005, 12:45 PM
agree with lasty two posts think its an effective and interesting martial art to learn andy is very good

keysi-nailbomb
01-Sep-2005, 03:57 PM
glad people are argreeing with me i am soon to go on the instructor course so i might even see you,its going to be great i really enjoy keysi its the best martial arts i have ever trained in.speak to you all soon.

TomB
08-Sep-2005, 02:13 PM
i would really like to know more about this
by the way the thread posted earlier does not work :cry:

barners01
10-Jul-2011, 08:39 PM
Hi I've been searching for a club near West Sussex but the nearest would be London. But I was wondering do you need experience in KFM first before doing an instructors course? The website doesn't say you do but that doesn't mean you don't need experience first. If anyones done an instructors course your opinion would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Barney

Late for dinner
10-Jul-2011, 11:27 PM
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102353&highlight=keysi

Interesting that the reviews in this thread were not very positive. Anyone have anything to explain what was being talked about when KFM was called -

''Scientology for martial artists''

''There is also a lot of hype and 'street lethal' marketing involved.

I'd not bother with it myself, at worst it's just hollow flash masquerading as pragmatism and at best I can't see it being anywhere near superior to solid boxing skills combined with some fundamental clinch grappling/striking ability''

Just interested as the comments above seem in complete disagreement with those stated in this thread.

LFD

icefield
11-Jul-2011, 07:14 AM
from what i have seen its another street leathel system, its shielding/covering work has been done before to much better effect (rodney kings crazy monkey for example) some of the blocks and striking ideas (punching the legs, elbowing incoming kicks from a low stance) seem unworkable and i have yet to see it used against a decent striker in any format

Polar Bear
11-Jul-2011, 07:22 AM
Hi I've been searching for a club near West Sussex but the nearest would be London. But I was wondering do you need experience in KFM first before doing an instructors course? The website doesn't say you do but that doesn't mean you don't need experience first. If anyones done an instructors course your opinion would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Barney

Nope just bring a stack of cash and you'll get what you want.

The Bear.

KFMLondon
05-Dec-2011, 05:29 PM
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J. Quintanilla Del Mar

Hannibal
05-Dec-2011, 06:12 PM
You could at least TRY and be subtle - buy advertising space you cheap git

And minus several million for necromancy too

Pat OMalley
06-Dec-2011, 12:06 AM
It was once marketed in its early days as JKD Evolution the I read and heard it was a Spanish street fighting system. I sure it has some nice guys in it but from what I have seen of it it's a bad version of Panantukan.

Not very keen on the elbow covers around the head thing they do. I have some big boxers in my group who would body punch that out of you in a flash.

But if you like it and have fun with it go for it just don't fall for all the street leathal stuff and promotional stuff that's used. Every system is street leathal isn't it ;)

Revobuzz
08-Dec-2011, 03:59 PM
I went to a couple of keysi classes and found it very good. I think the emphasis an the "thinking man" may be a bit of a limitation in a way, but I only went to a couple of classes so not an expert or anyhting.

I think it gets slagged off a bit because of the way it was/is marketed and the hype over the batman films. That's taken some attention away from the real point of is it any good or not, which imho it certainly is.

Pat OMalley
08-Dec-2011, 04:44 PM
I went to a couple of keysi classes and found it very good. I think the emphasis an the "thinking man" may be a bit of a limitation in a way, but I only went to a couple of classes so not an expert or anyhting.

I think it gets slagged off a bit because of the way it was/is marketed and the hype over the batman films. That's taken some attention away from the real point of is it any good or not, which imho it certainly is.The way you market something gives people the first impression of what it is suppose to be, like I said I am sure their are some good guys in it, but in all honesty from what I have seen it has limitations and its not what it says on the tin.

But each to his own, I just dont like the we are the most street lethal stuff you see banded around by a lot of groups like this. Street lethal is an idividual thing not a style/system based thing. What you learn may help or it may be a hinderance but what you do as a person is the difference between being street lethal or not.

And if its lethal for you to be on the street stay at home and dont open the door I say ;)

Peter Lewis
08-Dec-2011, 07:00 PM
And if its lethal for you to be on the street stay at home and dont open the door I say ;)

Wise words Oh Great One! :hail:

jorvik
08-Dec-2011, 07:30 PM
Well from what I have heard of it ...............it is very expensive, for what they charge I could buy a gun..I would buy a gun;)

Pat OMalley
08-Dec-2011, 11:54 PM
Well from what I have heard of it ...............it is very expensive, for what they charge I could buy a gun..I would buy a gun;)
isnt it strange that if it is expensive some people are attracted to it thinking that because its expensive it must be good? And once in they will never admit its not simply because they dont want to admit they have paid so much money for something that is not what it was suppose to be... And they stay because they dont want to admit it to themselves either...

Polar Bear
09-Dec-2011, 12:06 PM
All the people I met at Keysi could have won douchebag awards.

The Bear.

PASmith
09-Dec-2011, 12:10 PM
There seems something very odd about it.
Andy Norman and that Diego fella dressing the same. Bit weird if you ask me.

Pat OMalley
09-Dec-2011, 04:23 PM
There seems something very odd about it.
Andy Norman and that Diego fella dressing the same. Bit weird if you ask me.

Yeah what's the lumberjack shirts all about?

They do tend to dress identical? Not sure what that's all about :o

ShangChi
09-Dec-2011, 04:25 PM
Yeah what's the lumberjack shirts all about?

They do tend to dress identical? Not sure what that's all about :o

Iiiiiiiiiiii'm a lumberjack and I'm okaaaaaaaaay...

:love::love:

jorvik
09-Dec-2011, 05:01 PM
There seems something very odd about it.
Andy Norman and that Diego fella dressing the same. Bit weird if you ask me.

That's kinda cute, like dressing your little boy to look like his daddy

Killa_Gorillas
09-Dec-2011, 05:14 PM
Two clear examples of how Keysi is garbage...

KFM Keysi Fighting Method Martial Arts Self Defense Skills - YouTube

Keysi Fighting Method Self Defense - YouTube

Oddsbodskins
09-Dec-2011, 06:20 PM
I knew nothing about Keysi before reading this. You all ruined Batman for me.

I hope you're proud of yourselves.

m1k3jobs
09-Dec-2011, 07:33 PM
In the striking vid. His finishing technique is a hammerfist to the bottom of his opponents sneaker?

Awesome.

Killa_Gorillas
09-Dec-2011, 07:40 PM
In the striking vid. His finishing technique is a hammerfist to the bottom of his opponents sneaker?

Awesome.

flashy... trashy

Pat OMalley
09-Dec-2011, 07:52 PM
Watching those two clips shows me there is absolutely no understanding o street encounters there. Very bad is the best I can say.

ShangChi
09-Dec-2011, 07:55 PM
In the striking vid. His finishing technique is a hammerfist to the bottom of his opponents sneaker?

Awesome.

I remember a Keysi instructor trying to justify that move by claiming it is actually a stab with a key, knife or pen.

FOOTSTAB!

Killa_Gorillas
09-Dec-2011, 07:57 PM
I remember a Keysi instructor trying to justify that move by claiming it is actually a stab with a key, knife or pen.

FOOTSTAB!

LOL...

Heres a better idea...

Casino pen scene - YouTube

Killa_Gorillas
09-Dec-2011, 07:58 PM
Watching those two clips shows me there is absolutely no understanding o street encounters there. Very bad is the best I can say.

It's movie street fighting, dressed as... erm... something else :hat:

ShangChi
09-Dec-2011, 07:59 PM
Ha! I think it probably costs extra to learn that move in the Keysi method...The Pesci Parker Special!

Killa_Gorillas
09-Dec-2011, 08:03 PM
Ha! I think it probably costs extra to learn that move in the Keysi method...The Pesci Parker Special!

Probably a bic pricey BADDA BOOM KISH...

I'm here all week folks :banana:

Polar Bear
09-Dec-2011, 08:15 PM
You would need to be Kreysi to do this stuff.

The Bear.

Hannibal
09-Dec-2011, 09:52 PM
To be fair that was Justo one example








See what I did?












I'll get my coat.....

Pat OMalley
10-Dec-2011, 08:50 AM
To be fair that was Justo one example








See what I did?












I'll get my coat.....

Justo in Keysi you didn't get that.......




Mmmmm....



Hold up I'm comming with you.