Control & Restraint tactics

[hkphooey]

Any suggestions on a good book or excellent video for siezing, wrist locks/breaks, arm locks and suck. Need more tactics for cotnrol and restraining people without having to destroy them.




Ken

[stvn]

Comprehensive Applications of Shaolin Chin Na - Yang Jwing Ming.

It's available as book & video.

[hkphooey]

Well thank you for the post. I actually just bought Analysis of Chin Na, only 70pg into though it looks to be pretty good. Have you read this one as well, same author?

edited: Have you been able to work Chin Na with anyone yet?

[stvn]

No I haven't read Analysis yet but I have read Dr Yangs first book, 'Shaolin Chin Na'. I'm impressed with both.
I noticed both Analysis & Comp. Apps. both have accompanying videos. I might check these out too tohelp with putting the tecniques into motion.

[SoKKlab]

Practical Chin Na by Zhao Da Yuan, translated by Tim Cartmell (Unique) A review is here:

http://www.martialartsadvice.com/cat.php?cat=4

The Ming books are decent too and so are the Chinese Grappling vols 1 and 2 by Willy Lim (Published in the early 80s).

Plum Flower Press has a whole load of Videos on Chin Na, which I have not seen, but have it on good authority that they are decent too.

[hkphooey]

There is another site that I'll try to find that has DVD's for a lower price. Give me a day or two to find it.




Ken

[stvn]

edited: Have you been able to work Chin Na with anyone yet?

Only a few times, I've only recently shown an interest in chin na after being taught some in class. I've found the simpler it is, the more likely it is to work, as time/speed is a big factor in applying the technique. This might be different with a bit more experience under my belt as timing & positioning become more natural to me.

Fingers crossed!

What about you?

[hkphooey]

I haven't actually practiced anything out of the book itself, though from past experience there are techniques that are simular to one's I have done. Some of the same techniques I've done through JJJ & WC are shown with different variations.

[hkphooey]

Originally posted by hkphooey
and suck.
I just realized I wrote suck instead of such. Oops!

[goatnipples2002]

Glad to see others with the comp. appls of chin na by Dr. yang. I love this book. I has like 4-500 pages that can be broke down to 250 worth of good techs for even a noob to use effectively. i agree the simpler the better, if it takes too much set up I will not even bother with it. The Analysis is more philosophical than the the comp.apps. book.

cons of the book:

1- you are NEVER supposed to intentionally turn your back to your attacker.

2- he applies the locks as if an attacker will just let you, from what I have read and learned from practicing with this book that applying a joint lock is alot easier and almost impossible if you don't distract your attacker. A simple kick to the knee, shin or groin will do.

3-Alot of the techs in the book are very unrealistic for street self defense, I don't know about other scenarios, but for the the streets it has to be easy to setup and leave you in a position to fight other attackers once the tech is complete.

4-Some techs are just hard to apply and in a sticky situation you want to be smooth.

pros of the book:

1-everything not mentioned above. I LOVE THIS BOOK.


Sorry so long.