Refraining

[Joshua Powell]

I would ask that there be a set amount of chat subjects that we can speak on. I know that I may be speaking wrongly here...but i'm just saying that I saw something that could potentionaly hurt this site. I would ask that we do not talk about religious discussions in this site as it is a site where people of different religions may come, and those people may get upset from what they see. I know from being on this site for some time now that you guys as administrators like to see you'r patrons happy, but I think we need to regulate what we talk about so that it can be more acceptable as a family oriented chat room. One other thing is the sexual content that is brought up in chat sometimes. Small children, or kids under, or at the age of 12 may come on here, and see that when I personally believe it is in innapropriate for them to see that kind of content. Again i'm sorry if i'm speaking out of place by saying this, but please keep it under advisement in any case.

[Alienfish360]

I would agree about sexual content, but would disagree about religion. In my opinion religion is not a sensative topic, the ability to talk about your religion and discuss the beliefs of yours and others, provides you with a great opportunity to learn about other religions and cultures.

[Joshua Powell]

Except for when you talk about religions other then Christianity. Nobody likes to hear that there is only one truth, and that I will not agree with other religions. When people hear that I get pursecuted. That is the reason why i've been asked not to talk about it in public places.

[Sparkle]

I'm sorry but I think I should speak up, being that I was in chat at the time you were offended. You were the one on a one track mind telling everyone everything without any evidence at all. Like when you started stating things that people opposed, and you got all huffed up and left instead of hearing any reasonable explanations for why people objected to certain things. Topics aren't the problem, it is those who are easily offended who become the problem.

As for sexually oriented stuff, well . . . yeah you have a point. But the world isn't perfect, and the internet certaintly isn't either, even when it is a lovely web community such as MAP.

[slipthejab]

I would ask that there be a set amount of chat subjects that we can speak on.

WRONG!!!!!!
Where do you get off asking that chat be limited to a set amount of subjects because people didn't want to listen to your evangelical nonsense?!

Go find a religion forum to preach on... if you can't handle opposing ideas in an adult manner then you need to log off.


I know that I may be speaking wrongly here...but i'm just saying that I saw something that could potentionaly hurt this site.

Yeah so did we... your inability to chat without preaching.


I would ask that we do not talk about religious discussions in this site as it is a site where people of different religions may come, and those people may get upset from what they see.

Can't stand the heat? Then get out of the kitchen.
There are plenty of religious issues that get tossed around here on MAP and everyone walks away without too many hard feelings. Bunched panties in some cases - but no real hard feelings.

So what makes you so special?
Should we now bend over backward because you have all the fortitude of dairy cream in the hot sun?
Pishaw I say!

I know from being on this site for some time now that you guys as administrators like to see you'r patrons happy, but I think we need to regulate what we talk about so that it can be more acceptable as a family oriented chat room.

I think you need to give the moral majority rigamarole a rest. In chat your rubbish was the most patently offensive.

One other thing is the sexual content that is brought up in chat sometimes. Small children, or kids under, or at the age of 12 may come on here, and see that when I personally believe it is in innapropriate for them to see that kind of content. Again i'm sorry if i'm speaking out of place by saying this, but please keep it under advisement in any case.

Errmm... sorry but no one needs a nanny here. You jumped into the chat and started preaching hellfire and brimstone. You got put in your place rather fast and stormed out of the sandbox in a huff.

Now your being a big spineless crybaby.
Grow some thicker skin, evolve a spine and open your narrow mind or get some BBQ sauce to accompany the BBQ'in you will get every time you appear spout such evangelical nonsense.

Simple really.

[Anth]

I would ask that there be a set amount of chat subjects that we can speak on. Theres actually 2 subjects for Chat - anything and everything.

Can I ask how you would go about controlling it? The way I see it, it would require a Moderator in there 24/7. We have just seen a couple of people promoted to forum moderator so we can keep track of everything happening here. Now you want to add to the Moderating Team's workload by putting them in front of the Chat screen all the time? Hold on! Why dont we just hire a few full-time Chat Mods to keep an eye on the place?

Wage bill will be sent to yourself.

I would ask that we do not talk about religious discussions in this site as it is a site where people of different religions may come, and those people may get upset from what they see. I agree with you that people from different religions may come here, its like people of different MAs who come to MAP. It adds to the atmosphere and helps us to learn from others. You are right, they may be upset by what they see. Personally, I am more upset at the amount of flames that show when people talk religion - many a time when moderating the religion forum I have come close to tears at how many people want to bash Atheism. Should have locked and deleted every thread in there while I had a chance, shouldnt I?

One other thing is the sexual content that is brought up in chat sometimes. Small children, or kids under, or at the age of 12 may come on here, and see that when I personally believe it is in innapropriate for them to see that kind of content. Kids at the age of 12? Howay man, 12yo bairns round here can teach the sex-education teachers! In an age where you can be a grandparent before you are 30, whats the point in sheltering people? Aye, you have the old religious upbringing approach, where you are sheltered from everything, but this is the 21st century for crying out loud!

Except for when you talk about religions other then Christianity. Nobody likes to hear that there is only one truth, and that I will not agree with other religions. Only one truth, that is Christianity? Bwahahahahahaha!

You want all of that crap systematically ripping to shreads, you have come to the right place - the MAP Chat regulars are as adept at ripping Christianity to bits as the general MAP members are at getting rid of book-fu'ers.

If you have any problems in the Chat Room, you should contact a Moderator (preferably a Global Mod - Aegis, KT, Freeform and Mister K) or Admin (Saz and KickChick) rather than making a thread leaving yourself open to even more flames.

[thepunisher]

Its seem to me there is an awful lot of preachers going around on the net at the moment. What I don't get is what they are doing trying to preach there religion on a web site like MAP ? Its a martial arts web site, not a group of lost souls that need cleansing of their sins and the enlightment of god.

Christian

[Joshua Powell]

If you don't want us to preach, then don't talk about religious things, because that is exactly what were going to do. Your yelling at me for my belief system, for what I believe. You guys are HYPOCRITS. Being able to talk about what ever religion you want, and yelling at me for speaking about the one that I have. I'm alright with talking to you about my religion, I don't care what you say about it, but don't yell at me for something that I say about mine. My guess is that several of the patrons on this site are possibly christian, and they will want to speak as well if there is another religious discussion. Are you going to make them stop coming in durring the time you talk religious? If you do I will make clear now that you will lose those patrons, talk to there friends, and you guys will lose people in here...maybe even lose this site. I doubt that's what you guys want. So I ask again. Do not bring up religion is this "public" chat room. You will just get more opposition!

[Joshua Powell]

Its seem to me there is an awful lot of preachers going around on the net at the moment. What I don't get is what they are doing trying to preach there religion on a web site like MAP ? Its a martial arts web site, not a group of lost souls that need cleansing of their sins and the enlightment of god.

Christian

I agree. But wouldn't that include any kind of religious talk going on in here also? Yes or No question!

[Gary]

Your yelling at me for my belief system, for what I believe.
The point is, it's your religion. If other people are opposed to what you say, because of their religous beliefs, that's their right in any free society. The only person in the wrong in this case is the one pushing their own beliefs, while being ignorant of others.

[Aegis]

MAP chat is designed for discussions between members, and for the most part the subjects are off topic. I feel it would be totally inappropriate to ban religion from the chatroom at this point, as it has in the past generated some very interesting discussions with considerably less flaming than on the main forum. We are not going to take a topic out at the request of a single offended member, as we have had several other members happily chatting away about opposing views in the past.

As for the sexual references, blatantly adult material is banned in there already, and the flirting that I've seen in the past has been within acceptible levels.

Specific complaints can be sent to me.

[thepunisher]

I agree. But wouldn't that include any kind of religious talk going on in here also? Yes or No question!

Yes, but its usually only talked about on the religious forums. And if the only thing you want to do is talk religion don't you think a religious forum elsewhere might do you more good than being on a MA's web site ?


YES or NO question !

Christian

[saru1968]

'maybe even lose this site...'

Abit of an over reaction, unless of course MAP is evil and needs to repent its sins!!

:-)

Mind you i've always had a thing for Nuns epecially the 'half cut-out' type.


Repent, Oh Yes!!

:-)

[wrydolphin]

Being that I was there for the end of it, the only one upset was Joshua Powell. Also, being a Christian, I have had many interesting discussions on a broad range of topics in chat- from history, religion to sexuality. I suggest that if you find you are overly sensitive about the topic and cannot bear discussion concerning other faiths, then you are free to remove yourself from the conversation.

Nothing unreasonable was said. Period.

[Saz]

If you don't want us to preach, then don't talk about religious things, because that is exactly what were going to do. Your yelling at me for my belief system, for what I believe. You guys are HYPOCRITS.

You're bordering on personal attacks. Stop.

maybe even lose this site.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the very idea is laughable. This site will never be shut down because we refuse to bow to petty demands for censorship.

So I ask again. Do not bring up religion is this "public" chat room. You will just get more opposition!

It's not your call. People are free to discuss religion in the chat room so long as the conversation stays within the terms of service (no flaming etc).

End of discussion.