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leonje
11-Sep-2003, 04:53 PM
Hi All,
I am new to this list; so let me first introduce myself. My name is Leon, I live in Israel (Tel Aviv) and I am currently searching for a martial art that will fit my needs.

I am looking for a martial art that will be effective as self-defense, yet I am not looking for instant results and I don’t mind learning for a year or so before being able to use it effectively.
I would like it to be stimulating intellectually and have a tradition behind it (unlike the very effective “Self Defense” lessons that only focus on specific situations and their solutions).
I am also looking for a martial art that has less of that "military discipline" air to its lessons as was my impression from looking at Jiu Jitsu and Karate lessons (from the sidelines). It is my belief that a person that pays to be taught should not be disciplined physically (by being told to do push-ups etc.). I don’t think a martial art should become something like military basic training, nor should the Sensei/Sifu act as a drill sergeant. I am not sure if this is the standard in the disciplines I have mentioned, in any case it is the manner in which it was practiced at the lessons I saw.

Now to my point: :-)
I found that there is a Shaolin Nan Pai kung fu lesson taking place in my university’s sports center, which is very convenient for me. After looking at a lesson I got a very positive impression of the Teacher-Student relationship, being more like a family than basic training.

When I looked for info on Nam Pai on the net I found very little, and I was wondering what is the reason for this? Do you think Nam Pai is effective as a self-defense discipline? How old are its roots? (I think I read it dates only to the 19th century, but then I am not sure if its only a variant of an older art). What is its relation to other styles of Kung Fu? (I know there is also a Southern Praying Mantis school in another city but taking a bus all the way will pose a problem for me).

I would very much like to hear any opinion you might on Nam Pai.
Thanx!

Leon

keef
12-Sep-2003, 09:42 AM
Hi Leon & welcome,

Hopefully you will find what you are looking for in Kung Fu!

From my experience I have found my particular style of Kung Fu less military orientated (although not easier) than the Korean styles & certainly a more family atmposhere.

All styles of Kung Fu have something to offer allthough you may find one style may suit your body type better than another. The main thing is not the style though but the teacher, how he interpretates it and if he is providing what you are after.

Generally Kung Fu does take longer than some other styles for it to be ingrained into your body and become effective but I think it is worth the wait with the other benefits you will receive.

Good luck with your training!

Cheers

Keef

leonje
12-Sep-2003, 10:27 AM
Hi Keef,
What is your style of Kung Fu? You mentioned it is less military oriented. Do you know where can I read about fitting a Kung Fu style to my body type?
How do I classify a body-type anyway? (I'm 1.84 m, which is 6.04 feet, what else should be taken into consideration?)

Thanx
Leon
:-)

PS. Have you heard of Nam Pai?

keef
12-Sep-2003, 12:19 PM
I pratice Northern Seven Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu which I really enjoy, to be honest I was looking for Wing Chun Kung Fu but stumbled across this and liked it, so stayed put. The beauty of the system being that it has so much that I can pick out what works for me and of course the main thing being that I like the way my sifu (instuctor) teaches it.

I dont think reading will help you that much in terms of finding what is good for your body type the only thing you can really do is go out there and try it. Like I said previously the main thing is that you like the way it is being taught and that it suits your needs, the choice of art is secondary. Although obviously to an extent this is not true, you would not choose TKD if you dont like to kick, or boxing if you dont like to use your hands.

I am not and will not pretend to be an expert but from what I have read on the net Nam Pai sounds like a wonderfully interesting art. Its basis is the five Animals the Horse, Crane, Dragon, Snake & Tiger therefore one would presume that as your training progresses within the art you will favour one animal more than the others (the one that suits your body type). It looks like it also inlcudes about 18 traditional weapons and Chi Gung but Im sure all of this may vary from school to school (There may be many sub-styles)

Hey why not give it a try, it cant do you any harm ;-) and see if it has got what you want.

I enjoy my Mantis but for example if I moved and joined a new mantis club I might not enjoy that Sifu`s intreptration and way of teaching of the art!

P.S. if there was a Nam Pai class in my area I would personally be checking it out!

Hope this helps

Keef

PantherFist
12-Sep-2003, 09:33 PM
Leonje,
I also know of at least one other chinese martial arts club in Tel Aviv, its called Jiulong Baguazhang(aka Pa Kua). Its run by someone called Ben Hazan, who is a branch instructor for Dr John P. Painter of Arlington, Texas, USA.

Dr Painter has a very good reputation, his style is very practical(it was once practised by the Chinese Bodyguards of Ancient China). As a former Texas ranger Dr Painter has very good practical experience, his methods are still taught today to over 30,000 law enforcement officers.

The only problem with his representive in Tel Aviv is that he only teaches privatley.

Ben Hazan :- 011-972-3-699-8056

http://www.thegompa.com

Hope this helps mate:)

leonje
16-Sep-2003, 04:34 PM
Thank you for the info.
Unfortunately during this past week I have had (and still have a bit of) the flu so I don’t intend to go to the first lesson yet.
I did check the Gompa.com and I'll probably give him a call sometime soon when I'll feel better.
I can’t wait to start.
Thank you again!
See you in other threads soon...

Leon