Scientology

[Taff]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

How true is this? I know it's wikipedia so not 100% reliable.

I thought the story of Jesus is a bit of a stretch, but this takes the biscuit:

Among these advanced teachings, one episode that is revealed to those who reach OT level III has been widely remarked upon in the press: the story of Xenu, the galactic tyrant who first kidnapped certain individuals who were deemed "excess population" and loaded these individuals into space planes for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth). These space planes were said to have been copies of Douglas DC-8s, with the addition of rocket engines. :eek: He then stacked hundreds of billions of these frozen victims around Earth's volcanoes 75 million years ago before blowing them up with hydrogen bombs and brainwashing them with a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for 36 days, telling them lies of what they are and what the universe should be like and telling them that they are 3 different things: 'Jesus, God, and The Devil.' :cry: :woo: The traumatized thetans subsequently clustered around human bodies because they watched the motion picture together, making them think they are all the same thing, in effect acting as invisible spiritual parasites known as "body thetans" that can only be removed using advanced Scientology techniques. Xenu is allegedly imprisoned in a mountain by a force field powered by an eternal battery. BWAHAHAHA!He is said to be still alive today.

[bassai]

One of my wifes freinds were involved in scientology for a while , they seem very cultish.

[Gary]

I went for the free personality test they offer a free years ago, just to find it's pretty much one big sales pitch.

[Taff]

I went for the free personality test they offer a free years ago, just to find it's pretty much one big sales pitch.

What do they ask you then?

Here you go, this might all seem familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVlUuI89cQ&search=south%20park%20scientology

[Gary]

Mostly personality stuff like how confident are you talking to new people etc. It was all multiple choice so they could add up the scores easily. Then they give you a printout graph of the different facets of your personality, then tell you how much better you could be with them. I scored pretty well on most of it, so they complained theat my scores needed to be more in line with each other so i was more balanced. There was a lot of celebrity name dropping too.

[Aegis]

Moved to religion, though I'm somewhat wary of putting this insane rant in here... ;)

Seriously, all of the evidence that I've seen to do with scientology screams at me that it's a dangerous cult I'd do well to stay away from. This is my opinion, not stated as fact (good way to avoid a lawsuit :D)

[Taff]

You know, Scientology isn't a religion. :)

[Saz]

Has anyone seen the infamous South Park episode on Scientology/Tom Cruise?

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole scientology thing. Really.

*EDIT: I should check other posts before posting :D

[Aegis]

It is in my books, believing in higher powers and all, especially where there's no objective evidence.

In any case, I reasoned that this is where it fits best in the whole site, so here it is :D

[Taff]

Has anyone seen the infamous South Park episode on Scientology/Tom Cruise?

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole scientology thing. Really.

*EDIT: I should check other posts before posting :D


Join the dots. :D

This sort of thing happens quite a lot though doesn't it? It must be in human nature to be susceptible to cults.

[Yama Tombo]

Has anyone seen the infamous South Park episode on Scientology/Tom Cruise?

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole scientology thing. Really.

*EDIT: I should check other posts before posting :D

They are just successful and intelligent, doesn't make them wise. :rolleyes:



Join the dots.

This sort of thing happens quite a lot though doesn't it? It must be in human nature to be susceptible to cults.

Yes, it is. Such cults are called football, soccer, baseball, karate, kung fu, military, jogging club, fitness club, christianity, islam, capoeira, cars, drugs, gangs, love, music, cigaret, so on, so on, so on.......the list doesn't end.

[tekkengod]

Has anyone seen the infamous South Park episode on Scientology/Tom Cruise?

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole scientology thing. Really.

I've seen that one, i LOVE it! a classic! :D

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole Christianity thing. Really. :rolleyes:
fair is fair, its the same boat! :eek:

[CosmicFish]

I find it very difficult to believe that successful, seemingly intelligent people can buy into the whole Christianity thing. Really. :rolleyes:
fair is fair, its the same boat! :eek:
LOL! I was just waiting for someone to post something like that. Should have guessed it'd be you. ;)

[Saz]

It would have been a let down if it wasn't :p

And scientology is a whole different sack of crazy.

[Topher]

What is more plausible: believing we came from extra terrestrials or magically from dirt!

[CosmicFish]

Hmmm, do I smell popcorn? :Angel:

[NaughtyKnight]

Adam and eve riding Dinosaus, Noahs ark holding dinosaus, dinosaus still alive, alien souls trapped inside of us... Whats crazy about that? :rolleyes:

Stupid fad cult. Anyone that is in anyway associated with them should be exterminated. I know where the crusades should be sent this time. Hell maybe the Muslims can help us and wage a Jihad against them.

My ex got asked to answer some questions by some scientologists. It involved her holding some tubes and answering questions. She made up a load of crap and the guy "reading her" said things like "oh, I can tell by the way your soul is resinating" or crap to that effect.

Tom Cruise is an ignorent [censored]. I feel soo sorry for his wife, and anyone that is subjected to his stupid rants. I'd knock him out if he tried to convert me.

[Johnno]

Adam and eve riding Dinosaus, Noahs ark holding dinosaus, dinosaus still alive, alien souls trapped inside of us... Whats crazy about that? :rolleyes:

Stupid fad cult. Anyone that is in anyway associated with them should be exterminated. I know where the crusades should be sent this time. Hell maybe the Muslims can help us and wage a Jihad against them.

My ex got asked to answer some questions by some scientologists. It involved her holding some tubes and answering questions. She made up a load of crap and the guy "reading her" said things like "oh, I can tell by the way your soul is resinating" or crap to that effect.

Tom Cruise is an ignorent [censored]. I feel soo sorry for his wife, and anyone that is subjected to his stupid rants. I'd knock him out if he tried to convert me.Why so angry? :confused: I think they are hilarious! :D

[NaughtyKnight]

Im getting sick of hearing about it all the time. It would be funny if people didnt pop out of every nook and cranny and tried to preach their crap.

I think there is some clause in their bible (or whatever they call it), which makes them have to convert everyone they meet.

[Johnno]

Im getting sick of hearing about it all the time. It would be funny if people didnt pop out of every nook and cranny and tried to preach their crap.

I think there is some clause in their bible (or whatever they call it), which makes them have to convert everyone they meet.It amazes me that they can convert anyone if they spout all that science-fiction guff! It's like a spoof.

Has anyone confirmed whether the stuff on wikipedia is genuine or is it just taking the p1ss?

[thepunisher]

It amazes me that they can convert anyone if they spout all that science-fiction guff! It's like a spoof.

Has anyone confirmed whether the stuff on wikipedia is genuine or is it just taking the p1ss?

I actually read the same stuff some time ago in a magazine on a report about scientology but if anyone wants to know more here is there web site: http://www.scientology.org/

To be honest, looking at some of the Mcdojos I've seen on here and some cults I do wonder how come some ppl are so incredibly naive when it comes to things like this. Its sad.

Christian

[Johnno]

I actually read the same stuff some time ago in a magazine on a report about scientology but if anyone wants to know more here is there web site: http://www.scientology.org/

To be honest, looking at some of the Mcdojos I've seen on here and some cults I do wonder how come some ppl are so incredibly naive when it comes to things like this. Its sad.

ChristianI had a look at the link you posted. Didn't see anything about flying saucers, or people riding on dinosaurs. I'm very disappointed. :cry:

[thepunisher]

I had a look at the link you posted. Didn't see anything about flying saucers, or people riding on dinosaurs. I'm very disappointed. :cry:

Well, true. Haven't found it yet either but I loved this part, lol.
:D : In researching the barriers to spiritual gain caused by drugs, L. Ron Hubbard uncovered the existence of a drug personality, an artificial personality created by drugs.

Maybe we should all try out this test: http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/think-clearly/pg005.html

Christian

[Johnno]

Well, true. Haven't found it yet either but I loved this part, lol.
:D : In researching the barriers to spiritual gain caused by drugs, L. Ron Hubbard uncovered the existence of a drug personality, an artificial personality created by drugs.

Maybe we should all try out this test: http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/think-clearly/pg005.html

ChristianThat test was rather funny! :D

[NaughtyKnight]

I had a look at the link you posted. Didn't see anything about flying saucers, or people riding on dinosaurs. I'm very disappointed. :cry:

I read that on a link about the museum of Scientology.

I'll try and find the link.

[pj_goober]

Wasn't scientology originally a piss take? to quote someone on another forum :

L Ron Hubbard : "Hi, I think the quickest way to make a million dollars is to make up your own religion"

America : "Thats nice, but surley people will see through it"

<1 year later>

L Ron Hubbard : "Hello, join my Church of Sceintology, give me all your money"

America : "Did you just make that up to make money, like you said you would"

L Ron Hubbard : "no"

America : "Cash or Check?"

<a few months later>

America : "So whats this sceintology all about then"

L Ron Hubbard : "Sorry can't take your call right now i'm busy on my luxuary yatch full of nublie young women. Feel free to never call again"

Being a good conman is one thing, telling someone your going to con them first, then doing it. That takes a genius.

[Moony]

The bit that amusses me is their claim of getting rid of dyslexia.....

Yeah, right.

Moony

[pj_goober]

The bit that amusses me is their claim of getting rid of dyslexia.....

Yeah, right.

Moony

yeah, cos compare that to claims that we all carry the souls of aliens, frozen by an evil alien overlord and then melted in fijian volcanoes before the dawn of humanity, who cause all our depression and problems - its the claims about dyslexia that seem really outrageous. :p

[Thelistmaker]

R u gniddik? B4 I wnt to the sientologists I would reverses sdrow and mispel everything. Know im completely scured. My eye hand coordination has gone pu tooo! I used too ave problimbs parking my car but now I can krap anywhere I like.

[Moony]

yeah, cos compare that to claims that we all carry the souls of aliens, frozen by an evil alien overlord and then melted in fijian volcanoes before the dawn of humanity, who cause all our depression and problems - its the claims about dyslexia that seem really outrageous. :p

:P

we all know that side side of it is a load of rancid steaming honk.

Just pointing out another of their dubious claims.

Moony

[aml01_ph]

This reminds of that movie where Aston Kutcher lost his car.

HAIL ZOLTAN!!!

[Thelistmaker]

Why does L. Ron Hubbard get a propper cult and star trek doesn’t.

Can you prove that what appear to be episodes of a TV series are not infact a way of deceminating phrofacy to the non belefers

[thepunisher]

Why does L. Ron Hubbard gets a propper cult and star trek doesn’t.

I think because Mr. Ron L. Hubbard already was well known through the book and Hollywood industry (he made that bad sci fi movie with John Travolta some years back: "3000 AD" )so basically he could just play of that. Get the right celebrities involved-aka Tom Cruise-and bingo a marketing scheme becomes a religion.

But looking at Star Trek, that has already reached near cult status: There are conventions where ppl dress up like the TV characters attended by the actors of the series and there even is an official dictionary of the Klingon language: http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm

And even a Klingon language institute: http://www.kli.org/

Christian

[NaughtyKnight]

You have to admire Hubbard. Conning so many people.

Though only in America.

[BendzR]

Culture or not, either way both Star Trek and Scientology are both successful at making people spend lots of money on rediculous nonsense. :D

[Johnno]

But looking at Star Trek, that has already reached near cult status: There are conventions where ppl dress up like the TV characters attended by the actors of the series and there even is an official dictionary of the Klingon language: http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm

And even a Klingon language institute: http://www.kli.org/

ChristianI used to work with a Trekkie. In normal life he was your classic computer-geek with bad skin, jam-jar specs and half-mast trousers, but in Trekkie-land he held the rank of Starfleet Comander - in other words, he was a real big-shot.

[NaughtyKnight]

They have ranks? LOL

How do you get promoted? :D

[thepunisher]

They have ranks? LOL

How do you get promoted? :D

Probably by the amount of conventions they attend. Or the amount of ppl they "convert" to being a Trekkie.
;) :D

Christian

[NaughtyKnight]

My brother is a "trekkie" in the fact that he loves the show and knows everything about it. Dont think he has every been to a convention. Probably because I'd break his legs if he did.

[Thelistmaker]

They have ranks? LOL

How do you get promoted? :D


There is only one way to get past the rank of admiral. Go to a convention and pull someone wearing metallic armor, a ridged forehead and bad teeth. Extra points if this person speaks an incomprehensible dialect.

[aml01_ph]

You have to admire Hubbard. Conning so many people.

Though only in America.

He'll never get a foothold here. Jesus and Mohammed will kick his ass. Joseph Smith will referee! :D

[Johnno]

They have ranks? LOL

How do you get promoted? :DI believe you have to answer questions to demonstrate your in-depth knowledge of Star Trek.

To reach that level you would need to know pretty much every detail of every episode ever made.

Having a life simply isn't an option if you want to reach thsoe dizzy heights.

[iamraisen]

I believe you have to answer questions to demonstrate your in-depth knowledge of Star Trek.

come on johnno admit it. this "friend" is you right :p

[Strafio]

What do they ask you then?

Here you go, this might all seem familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVlUuI89cQ&search=south%20park%20scientology
There was something fishy about that episode...
Have the stopped killing Kenny nowdays?

[redsandpalm]

I've heard that Scientology can actually be used as a tax-break? Anyone heard anything like that?


I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Cruise & John Travolta etc. were paid to be scientologists, or maybe put under the control of Xenu and forced to convert!

[thepunisher]

I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Cruise & John Travolta etc. were paid to be scientologists, or maybe put under the control of Xenu and forced to convert!

I think they simply knew Ron Howard from the movie industy and got picked to represent Scientology because of their star qualities. With John Travolta you don't even see any of those weird antiques that Tom Cruise demonstrated the whole past months so it could even be that John isn't even into it but Tom is.

Christian

[tekkengod]

What is more plausible: believing we came from extra terrestrials or magically from dirt!

OH! now THAT is the million dollar question! :D

[tekkengod]

It would have been a let down if it wasn't :p

And scientology is a whole different sack of crazy.

Indeed it would :)

HUH!? how so? crazy is crazy last time i checked! :eek:
Alien off spring? or invisable man who lives in the sky? pick your poison people.

[Yama Tombo]

What is more plausible: believing we came from extra terrestrials or magically from dirt

There is evidence life came from dirt (no evidence of extra terrestrial) I'll go with "magically from dirt"

[bassai]

I think scientology are much more aggresive in their "conversions" than christianity.

[Topher]

There is evidence life came from dirt (no evidence of extra terrestrial) I'll go with "magically from dirt"
Such as?

[Yama Tombo]

Such as?

It's been awhile since I've read the information and I don't have quick referrence to it. I'll P.M. you the information once I find it.

[CosmicFish]

It's been awhile since I've read the information and I don't have quick referrence to it. I'll P.M. you the information once I find it.
Nah, post it up here. If I came from dirt then I'd like to know. At least I wouldn't have to bother washing my hands any more.

[Taff]

There was something fishy about that episode...
Have the stopped killing Kenny nowdays?

Yeah I think they stopped a few years ago.

[Johnno]

Nah, post it up here. If I came from dirt then I'd like to know. At least I wouldn't have to bother washing my hands any more.That makes no sense! You came from a squirt of your Dad's you-know-what, but you should still wash your hands!

PS: yours in Hoimunitis, brother.

[Yama Tombo]

Nah, post it up here. If I came from dirt then I'd like to know. At least I wouldn't have to bother washing my hands any more.

Like I said once I find it again, I'll let you know also.

[BendzR]

aliens vs dirt.

I would say dirt simply based on the fact that I have actually seen dirt and that I know it actually exists.

But really, we all know Life started when Charles Darwin (who is an ancestor of Chuck Norris) spawned life with a rain dance.

[aml01_ph]

I began reading up on Scientology because of this thread. From what I've read, Hubbard comes across as a paranoid psycho.

[Yossarian]

I read up on Scientology a while back just out of curiosity and its totally mad. L ron Hubbard was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, as well as a compulsive lyer. There are ex scientologists out there who have spilled the beans as a warning to others. These people face constant harrasment from scientologist lawyers and members.

They have a policy called fair game which means anyone who criticises them will have their lawyers set on them, harrased and even killed. Although they claim they have dropped the killing part of that policy due to bad publicity. You also have to work for them for practically no money to advance through levels. When you get to the higher levels they tell you about the aliens and once youve worked for them enough they will remove the alien souls from your body.

Its not just America either, you will find these nuts in most western countries. If someone stops you on the street and asks if you want a free personality test, they are most likely scientologists.

[Knight_Errant]

I'd usually say live and let live. On this occasion, however, I've been massively annoyed by the plague of hollywood scientology. Believe in this drivel by all means, but don't assume anybody will be interested in watching a film about it! Unless it's actually a good film, which for some reason none of them are.

[Wali]

so it could even be that John isn't even into it but Tom is.

Battlefield Earth!!! (I and heard he wants to REMAKE IT!!!)

[slipthejab]

I think they simply knew Ron Howard from the movie industy and got picked to represent Scientology because of their star qualities. With John Travolta you don't even see any of those weird antiques that Tom Cruise demonstrated the whole past months so it could even be that John isn't even into it but Tom is.

Christian

Tom Cruise is demonstrating antiques?! :D

[Knight_Errant]

This scietology stuff is almost funny enough to make a movie about- you could call it 'battlefield brain'.

[thepunisher]

Its not just America either, you will find these nuts in most western countries. If someone stops you on the street and asks if you want a free personality test, they are most likely scientologists.

Thats true concerning it not only existing in America. We have a "Church of Scientology" center actually here in Richmond in the UK. I was surprised the first time I saw it because I did originally only expect them to exist in the US. Guess Ron Hubbards influence and money carried his word though far beyond that country.

I checked out the personality test on that site and I have to say thats a good marketing plot: Advertise it to be taken FREE OF CHARGE (instead of 500 $)on the internet BUT on the condition that you only get to see some lines. In order to actually find out what they mean you have to go to a center. Obviously a good way of luring ppl in.

Christian

[CKava]

You can get a stress test/personality test for free on tottenham court road in london I know a few folk who have done it found it kind of funny but yeah its all a marketing ploy. I'd like to do it for some amusement but the problem is I think Id find it hard to not crack up holding those stupid e-meter things... especially when I know ultimately they are detecting dead alien souls :P.

[CosmicFish]

That makes no sense! You came from a squirt of your Dad's you-know-what, but you should still wash your hands!

PS: yours in Hoimunitis, brother.
OK, you convinced me. ;)

[AZeitung]

Has everyone here seen http://www.xenu.net/ ?

Scientology isn't just a stupid fad, it's also been engaged in numerous illegal activities, which you can find out about somewhere on that site. Do a search for "operation freakout" - where scientologists tried to get someone committed to a mental institution by faking bomb threats from that person. This isn't just a case of the actions of a few scientologists - it's the actions of the people in charge of running the cult.

[Moony]

IIRC there's a Scientology place in Derby. However it's been a few years since i went that way so I can't be too sure about it.

Moony

[Taff]

http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm11.php

[thepunisher]

http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm11.php

LOL, that link was funny. And it sums up scientology in a really funny but true way. Whoever came up with this is a genius. I especially liked the quotes from Ron Hubbard and Tom Cruise in between.
:D :D

Christian

[pj_goober]

LOL, that link was funny. And it sums up scientology in a really funny but true way. Whoever came up with this is a genius. I especially liked the quotes from Ron Hubbard and Tom Cruise in between.
:D :D

Christian

Its a shame really - if they took out all the rubbish cheap, homophobic shots at Cruise and Travolta it would have been excellent. As it is it just gets bogged down in bad jokes about famous people being gay.

[Taff]

If you adjust the URL to go to the 12th episode, you'll find something extremely politically incorrect.

[Strafio]

I found that 12th episode hilarious, although I'm not sure if I should...
It did have some unfair cracks as muslims in general, and treated the whole group as if they were all extremists, but anyone who can laugh at themselves ought to find it funny, and the general points were kind of right...

I'm now looking for a Buddhist one so I don't feel so guilty. :Angel:

[NaughtyKnight]

The Scientology South Park was just on! My god it was funny.

Tom Cruise, R Kelly and John Travolta are all in the closet. HOW DO THEY COME UP WITH THIS STUFF! :D:D:D

I like how the credits were all "John Smith". lol.