View Full Version : Is it quiet on here or what?
Unknown Entity
10-Feb-2006, 01:50 PM
Has all the aggro and incomprehensible posting on here scared everyone off????????? :D
davefly76
10-Feb-2006, 03:04 PM
he he it does get a bit quiet in here sometimes. maybe everyone's training so hard they haven't got time to post anything :D
enter.......silentmonk he's always got something interesting or amusing to say ;) :D
probably because he's hell bent on exceding my post count :p
Unknown Entity
10-Feb-2006, 03:56 PM
Speaking of the monk and amusing....thought I would try and lighten up the atmosphere in here.
A young monk had just been assigned to the scribing department of the monastery. The Master scribe was showing him the ropes when the young monk made an observation that the texts were copied from the last copy made.
“Master” said the young monk “Why do we not copy the sacred texts from the originals?”
“Because they are old and fragile and irreplaceable!” replied the Master scribe.
“But what if a mistake is made? It will be copied exactly the next time and so on and no-one will notice that there is a mistake.” Said the concerned young monk.
“It has always been done that way my young neophyte. Ever since the early days of our order” replied the master reassuringly.
“Does no one check back to the original to ensure that the copies are true?” Enquired the worried young monk.
“There is no need my son the scribes are consummate in their skills and do not make mistakes.” Said the master proudly.
Later that evening, the young monk unable to take his mind off the matter slipped down into the archives only to be surprised to find the master scribe there too.
The master scribe had an old text clutched to his chest and was banging his head repeatedly against the stone wall whilst crying to himself. They forgot the <oops> R….they forgot the <oops> R…they forgot the <oops> R!.
Alarmed at the blood pouring from the masters battered head the young monk cried. “Master what’s wrong?”
On seeing the young monk the master dropped the text and grabbed the young monk by the shoulders and whilst shaking the young monk cried.
“THE <oops> THE WORD SHOULD BE……CELEBRATE!!!!!”
AirNick
10-Feb-2006, 04:10 PM
Nice!
Sorry to be pedantic but it's spelt 'celibate' though so it doesn't work! :cry:
Unknown Entity
10-Feb-2006, 04:13 PM
Damn you!!
ember
10-Feb-2006, 05:18 PM
Considering that the "first wave" of KSW posters here were mostly American colored belts, and now we've got a strong "second wave" of mostly-UK upper black belts... There's often different needs between the communities.
For example, the discussion on full contact sparring and tournament rules. At this stage of my MA training, I have to seriously think about whether I am up to sparring where the rules are full-contact.
One of the reasons I am in martial arts rather than another sport is for discipline, desensitization, and maybe even healing.
For me right now, sparring with no to light contact, with friendly partners, learning strategy and maintaining control, is in itself an accomplishment. I'm not prepared to go in to a grudge match.
And nevermind that takedown aspects, I haven't been trained in that yet.
If you guys want to go out and do full-contact take-down sparring, that's your choice, but count me out.
Has all the aggro and incomprehensible posting on here scared everyone off????????? :D
Choiyoungwoo
10-Feb-2006, 08:37 PM
I am replying to EmberKSW's situation.
I strongly suggest starting to train with full contact sparring NOW. The first time you get hit in the head should not be in a self defense situation. The most important part of training your techniques and strikes, is learning to use them in a violent struggling fight. The dump of emotion, adrenaline, and other factors (experienced in a fight) are something that can be at least replicated by training hard.
Sparring with only people who you are "comfortable" with is also not a good idea. You don't get to pick your assailaint. Train with everyone and train hard. You never know when you will need your KSW.
We Need More Practice!
KSW88 i hope you are kidding.... but if you're not................................While i share your idea that the threshold of more realistic sparring must be crossed, I would hope that you are advising your own color belt mom/wife/daughter, of the same thing. Or mabye the idea of developing some skills, control, combos, comfortable mindset, and other things, over a long period might suit them better. Sure, getting hit offers more realisim, it also introduces some serious risks that she may not want yet. Do people need to cross that threshold at some point, usually YES, but I think her instructor is KJN Harmon. I am pretty sure he knows when she needs to do this. People should be taught according to their fitness to learn. Maybe she isn't fit to cross over to that yet. Maybe in your school everyone crosses into that at yellow belt, but the vast majority of the public is not ready or willing that early. I bet ember is pretty happy with KSW. I want her to stay that way, even if she never spars full contact. Her non contact sparring might be more than she ever thought she'd accomplish. and her success with it may give her the confidence to go that direction, but getting hit really hard now may drive her from sparring altogether, leaving her with even less skill and confidence. with patience and time she may just suprise everyone, including herself!! The physical skill involved in getting hit take time, the mental skill can take even longer..
ember
10-Feb-2006, 09:52 PM
The first time you get hit in the head should not be in a self defense situation.
The point was, it's too late for that. It happened long before I started any MA training.
The dump of emotion, adrenaline, and other factors (experienced in a fight) are something that can be at least replicated by training hard.
Have you been in a fight? I have.
Sparring with only people who you are "comfortable" with is also not a good idea. You don't get to pick your assailaint. Train with everyone and train hard. You never know when you will need your KSW.
I'm willing to spar with all but one person at my dojang. What I am not interested in doing is "sparring" with people who are trying to hurt me. It's unnecessary, and proves nothing.
JKN-Taylor
10-Feb-2006, 11:12 PM
I've been pretty busy at work lately... need more forum/slack time >_<
davefly76
11-Feb-2006, 08:22 AM
Considering that the "first wave" of KSW posters here were mostly American colored belts, and now we've got a strong "second wave" of mostly-UK upper black belts...
yeah, where are all the UK coloured belts???
:)
kswgreenman
11-Feb-2006, 10:40 AM
yeah, where are all the UK coloured belts???
:)
Lurking :)
KSWMark
14-Feb-2006, 01:01 PM
i think its just us...
JSun
14-Feb-2006, 02:23 PM
While I'm all for the proliferation of MAP, I like the fact that I can pick the brains of a small number of people who've been training in KS much longer than myself and come from different cultural backgrounds. I work out at a dojang that's run by one 2nd degree and one 1st dahn, so it's cool I get to interact, albeit via the web, with more upperbelts. The ideas exchanged here have definitely helped my personal growth as a KS artist. Thanks to all who are participating.
Unknown Entity
14-Feb-2006, 02:30 PM
No problem,
Just pop a cheque in the post for $100,000 and we'll call it even. :D
ember
14-Feb-2006, 04:48 PM
I'll second that. Being on MAP has definitely helped me appreciate what I have at my dojang.
I feel like I am writing less and reading a lot more... That's a GOOD thing, but it can make for a quieter forum.
While I'm all for the proliferation of MAP, I like the fact that I can pick the brains of a small number of people who've been training in KS much longer than myself and come from different cultural backgrounds. I work out at a dojang that's run by one 2nd degree and one 1st dahn, so it's cool I get to interact, albeit via the web, with more upperbelts. The ideas exchanged here have definitely helped my personal growth as a KS artist. Thanks to all who are participating.
TXKukSoolBB
14-Feb-2006, 05:52 PM
I actually feel bad since I have picked up much more information than I have provided. However...Thanks.
ember
05-Mar-2006, 11:50 PM
I'm trying to get there someday. "No contact" usually ends up being "light contact," and accidents happen. The applicable phrase I learned this weekend is "I'm not taking typing."
I got hit in tournament about a year ago, hard enough to bruise the chin. (Need I say, again?) I came *this* close to losing it on my sparring partner. The fact that I *didn't* means the training is working... I figure I'm much better off keeping my head in a fight.
While i share your idea that the threshold of more realistic sparring must be crossed, I would hope that you are advising your own color belt mom/wife/daughter, of the same thing. Or mabye the idea of developing some skills, control, combos, comfortable mindset, and other things, over a long period might suit them better. Sure, getting hit offers more realisim, it also introduces some serious risks that she may not want yet. Do people need to cross that threshold at some point, usually YES, but I think her instructor is KJN Harmon. I am pretty sure he knows when she needs to do this. People should be taught according to their fitness to learn. Maybe she isn't fit to cross over to that yet. Maybe in your school everyone crosses into that at yellow belt, but the vast majority of the public is not ready or willing that early. I bet ember is pretty happy with KSW. I want her to stay that way, even if she never spars full contact. Her non contact sparring might be more than she ever thought she'd accomplish. and her success with it may give her the confidence to go that direction, but getting hit really hard now may drive her from sparring altogether, leaving her with even less skill and confidence. with patience and time she may just suprise everyone, including herself!! The physical skill involved in getting hit take time, the mental skill can take even longer..
Shibby!
06-Mar-2006, 09:48 PM
I am a UK colour belt!
However a belt just holds up your trousers!! It doesnt mean a thing.
Been doing Martial arts for many years though, Kuksool more recenlty.
I do think we should do full contract sparring, or semi full! Grappling is also great way of training. Most fights end up on the ground anyway, If yours aint, put them on the ground and choke them! :)
I train with quite a few black belts and higher grades then myself, train grappling quite a lot, sparring a bit too.
Nick
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