KSW funnies

[Silentmonk]

OK has anyone got any funny videos, pictures, or stories to post to do with KSW. Thought it was about time we shared in each others agony lol or at least we can see who the biggest fool really is on here, :D

[KSW_123]

The problem is, you never have a camera at the right time. I knocked myself out with a staff once doing staff spinning number 11. The twist was you sit on the ground with your feet in front of you and then do sit ups, pass behind back when up and spin over the head when lying down. I wasn't out for long, but I had a nice welt on the side of my head.

[davefly76]

the other week i was doing a few techniques while the juniors warmed up. i was going through jee ahp sool's and got to number 6. i had the pressure point on the hand and went to grab my opponents temple with my thumb and middle finger and promptly poked my partner in the eye with my thumb.

he didn't find it too amusing but the parents watching did lol.

:)

[Gi Ma Ja Se]

Havent got this at work, but i believe airnick might have it..... it was me and my bro videoing ourselves for staff sparring to check out if we were doing anything wrong.... and erm well it was on number 2 we were spinning our staffs above our heads moving towards each other, i ducked (as you do) and my bro let go over his staff and it went flying over my head..........

Oh and another time i (me and bro) doing tourny staff sparring.... we were going like maniacs, and on number 3 my staff broke..... the staff being Ratan becam a very large num chuck which i tried to continue to use.... the judges are pissing them selves saying stop.... kuk sa nim stands up laughing..... shouting Again Again... Get staff.... LOL the thing is we went on to win it and get gold.... dont have any video of this one though!!

[AirNick]

Haha, they were both classics! I do have that video with me actually.

I have a few but the one that comes to mind was about 10 years at Lakenheath between classes. I stupidly tried a jumping turning back kick over an American Football style tackling dummy, lost my bearings and landed perfectly on it on my nuts in front of everyone. I think a couple of the board members witnessed this :cry:

There are also many involving acrobatics that I'm sure ksn_matt would like to share....

[psbn matt]

oh yes, nick landing on his face in korea, in front of a huge crowd and on korean national telivision! priceless. me doing staff spinning number 10 with nicks spear. and the spear head comes of, flys across nicks garden and stabs him in the shoulder. ksn maxine was practicing staff form with a v small staff and managed to smack herself in the eye, and then told anyone who asked how she got such a big black eye, that i did it! and one last one, during a break off in the breaking compertition one year, i had to do a 540 (helicopter) spin kick break, now i didn't know what this was untill then, so with kjn john watson holding the board, i gave it my best shot. missed the board compleatly and ended up draging my heal full power across kjn watsons cheast. oops!

[davefly76]

we were going like maniacs, and on number 3 my staff broke..... the staff being Ratan becam a very large num chuck which i tried to continue to use....

LOL that happened to me once during a demo. i felt a bit bad really because it wasn't my staff but at least i got a few ooohhs and aaahhs from the audience.

once we were in a large sports hall and one of the juniors asked me to demonstrate something. i replied "i cant because my trainers are loose and they'll fly off, look.." i then did a very fast high front kick and my shoe came off! it flew about 50ft in the air and went straight through a basketball hoop. man i went crazy, running around the hall with one shoe on like we'd just won the champions league :D

[TXKukSoolBB]

staff sparring.... we were going like maniacs, and on number 3 my staff broke..... the staff being Ratan becam a very large num chuck which i tried to continue to use...

I also had this happen...but in practice. SBN made me and sparring partner drop and do 100 push-ups for breaking equipment. (it was our own staff's!) So we did our 100...no questions asked. :)

[Gi Ma Ja Se]

I also had this happen...but in practice. SBN made me and sparring partner drop and do 100 push-ups for breaking equipment. (it was our own staff's!) So we did our 100...no questions asked. :)


:eek: :eek: Really, i would of congratulated my students on great staff sparring because they were obviously sparring with the intent of hitting the other!!! :D

[kswgreenman]

OK has anyone got any funny videos, pictures, or stories to post to do with KSW. Thought it was about time we shared in each others agony lol or at least we can see who the biggest fool really is on here, :D

My avatar is a picture of me just after falling spectacularly over doing a spin kick in my red belt test. During the warm up. It turned out to be a broken ankle. Can I have a special village idiot hat?

[ember]

Practicing staff spinning #8 in class, and all of a sudden hear, from the back of the room, someone singing "Row, row, row your boat".

[hwarang cl]

Oh there are soooooo many, lets see some favorites

One time at our school's premotion demo, all the BB's were doing the falling/acrobatics routine, and I did a face plant instead of a hand spring.

Doing tournament (womens)self-defense demo pratice, my partner, she kicked me in the jewels instead of doing meak cha ki #4

Doing Demo pratice for the 93 tourny, I think. The routine was a falling demo. We were doing high cat nakbub over someone doing low, and two people collided in mid air, obviousily some forgot to go low.

Same demo pratice someone forgot to tuck their leg completly and racked some poor guy in the jewels.

[hwarang cl]

Oh I forgot my favorite, we were doing juhl bong training, and A teenaged BB started to showoff for a girl that was walking buy and cracked himself in the jewels. Laid himself right out. Funniest thing I've ever seen.

[RaccoonWrangler]

I can post this here because my wife isn't on these forums (yet)...

Happened just the other night; my wife and I ended up having to spar each other during tournament practice. The instructors try to keep us gender-separated, but since it is just practice, they will make exceptions if there's an uneven number.

Anyway, we're sparring, and at one point, I whipped out the high inside kick to the side of her head. It was controlled, and it barely even turned her helmet. I couldn't resist, she was wide open... :p

The funny part was the look on her face... It was like, 'I can't believe you just kicked me in the head!'

Unfortunately, it was followed by that steely hardening of the eyes and tightening of the mouth that told me I was going to regret it.
Maybe not today, maybe not next week, but soon; and for the rest of my life... :D

[ember]

The funny part was the look on her face... It was like, 'I can't believe you just kicked me in the head!'

Unfortunately, it was followed by that steely hardening of the eyes and tightening of the mouth that told me I was going to regret it.
Maybe not today, maybe not next week, but soon; and for the rest of my life... :D

:D :D :D

I've sparred Coyote many a time, it's always interesting.

I think it was the same June promotion demo that we did the technique routine (see Favorite KSW memories)... The DBNs on up usually end the demo with nak bub and acrobatics. So Coyote and I were partnered up, and were doing cartwheels, and he falls down behind me. I guess I tried to look mid-cartwheel, and fell right on top of him.

We both got up, split to get back in line, and shook it off.

[blondeblackbelt]

After performing at the Beckhams party we had central news come and film a peice on me and my instructor.

So I performing sword, the camerman is knelt on the floor filming upwards, when he says, right im going to come in closer. I never heard him! So I carry on, and stab the camerman in the head! He was bald, which made it look so much worse, as if the sword actually pierced his head!

But not to worry, it was a blunt sword! Nobody got sued, he was fine (I think) and I had a great story to tell...

[davefly76]

LOL take note silentmonk and JKNGT, no close up shots...

[swntzu]

LOL take note silentmonk and JKNGT, no close up shots...

I heard about this. They almost got a haircut from KJN SJS!

[Silentmonk]

LOL take note silentmonk and JKNGT, no close up shots...

she wouldn't ever do that to me....................not me :D

oooo watching the rocket launcher break and watching the look of disbelief on Taffs face when the top board had been taken away at lowestoft. That was priceless, as was the way that myself and Gi Ma Ja Se turned to each other at the same time and called the holder a plank or words to that effect. :D

[KSW_equus]

Originally Posted by Choiyoungwoo
this should probably be in the funnies thread ...... but
I've heard kuksa nim while watching hyung, say "him look dickless" (meaning, he looks ridiculous)
but he was more right than he realized.


<Collapsed, on my desk, laughing.> Too funny. I had to share this...oh, my goodness...

<wiping tears>
Equus `---~

[KSW_equus]

Practicing staff spinning #8 in class, and all of a sudden hear, from the back of the room, someone singing "Row, row, row your boat".

Immediately followed by the teacher (smiling) saying WHO SAID THAT??? & all of us, fearing pushups, blinking like a bunch of owls "I don't know, sir,"...

Later on, same class, teacher said, "I want to hear those staffs whistle & sing!!!!"
& ever so faintly, from the back of the room, floated...the theme from "The Bridge Over The River Kwai"...yes it did...

:->>>> Equus

[KSW_equus]

All right, then, my personal favourite. Riding funnies!

#1.There is a staff spinning technique which (from what I understand) is supposed to be done from the back of a horse. Over the head, behind the back, over the head, like that. Ember can do this, without incident or accident, I've seen her do it.

So anyway, I thought I'd be clever & do it from horseback. So I got my staff & away I went. Everything was fine, until the part where it's supposed to be horizontal went vertical. NOT good. VERY not good. UNgood. I gave my horse a good poke in the flank. Well! My horse didn't appreciate that too much, & bolted. WOOOOOO! VERY exciting!!!! :) I did stay on but it was -interesting.

#2. Usually, when I train horses, the horse & I are together in the round pen. But when I do mounted archery, I'm riding around the outside of the pen, in a circle, shooting arrows at a target stuck onto outside of the pen. If (or rather, when) I miss, the arrows go into the pen, & I'm spared the joy of hunting arrows all night in the field. George, my neighbor, usually saw horses IN the round pen.

One night, George-very, very drunk, having himself a large time watching me, called me over to the fence, just the picture of wobbly concern. "HONEY," he listed dangerously over the fence, (I was just sure he was going to fall right on his nose), whispering his important new earthshattering observation: "You ain't never gonna hit nothin'...I don't think" he was really worried now "I can't see...there ain't no horse in there!!!"

When I got where I could speak, I explained that it was OK, I wasn't hunting horses that night, just aiming for the target... :) Equus

[hwarang cl]

All right, then, my personal favourite. Riding funnies!

#1.There is a staff spinning technique which (from what I understand) is supposed to be done from the back of a horse. Over the head, behind the back, over the head, like that. Ember can do this, without incident or accident, I've seen her do it.

So anyway, I thought I'd be clever & do it from horseback. So I got my staff & away I went. Everything was fine, until the part where it's supposed to be horizontal went vertical. NOT good. VERY not good. UNgood. I gave my horse a good poke in the flank. Well! My horse didn't appreciate that too much, & bolted. WOOOOOO! VERY exciting!!!! :) I did stay on but it was -interesting.

#2. Usually, when I train horses, the horse & I are together in the round pen. But when I do mounted archery, I'm riding around the outside of the pen, in a circle, shooting arrows at a target stuck onto outside of the pen. If (or rather, when) I miss, the arrows go into the pen, & I'm spared the joy of hunting arrows all night in the field. George, my neighbor, usually saw horses IN the round pen.

One night, George-very, very drunk, having himself a large time watching me, called me over to the fence, just the picture of wobbly concern. "HONEY," he listed dangerously over the fence, (I was just sure he was going to fall right on his nose), whispering his important new earthshattering observation: "You ain't never gonna hit nothin'...I don't think" he was really worried now "I can't see...there ain't no horse in there!!!"

When I got where I could speak, I explained that it was OK, I wasn't hunting horses that night, just aiming for the target... :) Equus




Too funny!!! :D :D :cry: :D

[beky_boo8]

a few years ago we were training in a hall with basketball nets and Davefly76 said he couldn't demonstrate kicks because his shoes would fly off and he kicked and his shoe flew across the hall and into a basketball net! you couldn't do that again if you tried!

[ember]

After August testing, one class PSBN asked me to cut stripes for the DBNs, six inches long.

I was about halfway through, and PSBN looks and says, "Some of those are a little short..."

Kids present, couldn't say anything, but :o :D :o :D

[PopeCoyote]

Immediately followed by the teacher (smiling) saying WHO SAID THAT??? & all of us, fearing pushups, blinking like a bunch of owls "I don't know, sir,"...

Later on, same class, teacher said, "I want to hear those staffs whistle & sing!!!!"
& ever so faintly, from the back of the room, floated...the theme from "The Bridge Over The River Kwai"...yes it did...

:->>>> Equus
Guilty as charged- on both accounts :D However, KJN was standing there when I did the "row, row, row your boat" thing and was smiling about it :)

[ember]

We often incorporate mental drill questions into our warmups. A common one would be to ask "What are the two P's?", and when the students answer, ask "What's the third P?" right before pushups.

Once in a while, if the class is large, you may hear the second question answered "Pizza".

Given that... what would you like on your pizza?

-- Me, I like Hawaiian. Canadian bacon, pineapple, maybe onions.

[KSW_equus]

We often incorporate mental drill questions into our warmups. A common one would be to ask "What are the two P's?", and when the students answer, ask "What's the third P?" right before pushups.

Once in a while, if the class is large, you may hear the second question answered "Pizza".

Given that... what would you like on your pizza?

-- Me, I like Hawaiian. Canadian bacon, pineapple, maybe onions.
:D

[KSW_equus]

PSBN, who I respect greatly,gives me the very important job to take care of his cutting sword after the cutting demo. The sword is my favourite weapon & this one is gorgeous, probably $2G, imported from Korea, thank you very much...needless to say, dropping this is simply NOT an option. He tells me not to sheath it, (makes sense, as it will have the junk from the demo on it & he doesn't want it to get all-bleeeech). Yes sir. No problem.

So after the demo, one of the other teachers from another school (VERY nice, VERY high rank) sees me with this VERY sharp blade, tucked carefully under an arm, unsheathed, & ~ sharp. He tells me to sheathe it (the end of his sentence probably being "so you don't turn yourself into cole slaw" but he's much too nice to say that). OMG. Gears GRINDING in my head. what to do??? My teacher was out of sight. PANIC! Argue with a master...NO, I don't do that. Go against my teacher's express instructions...NO, can't do that. I was speechless. Petrified. VAPOR LOCK, thy name is Equus. Couldn't talk. Couldn't make my fingers work. Instant idiot, just add water. I'm very aware of etiquette & try my best always to be polite. But I was NOT letting go of that sword. :) I figured he'd probably kill me but at least it'd be fast...just TOO funny.

FINALLY I was able to squeak "I'm sorry sir & no disrespect, but PSBN told me not to sheathe it while it's dirty." INSTANT understanding showed in his eyes...THANK G*D. He went & got a towel & cleaned the blade (didn't cut himself or the towel either). He helped me get it back in the case (I was shaking pretty seriously by then & handling it alone was NOT a good idea) & to his eternal credit, he managed not to laugh.

[KSW_equus]

So the tension is so thick you could cut it with a ...oh, let's not go there (please see previous story :) ). but anyways, we were about to start, & it was tense. So KSN (judge) collects our cards & says, "Is everybody here?" We all blinked like owls & said nothing. this had to be a trick question.

"OK, if you're here, raise your hand," said KSN.

Do you know, I swear, not everyone raised their hand...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ember]

So we get to techniques, and I run and get my partner, and I'm the first one who has my partner there.

So we walk into the ring, I do my introduction. "... and Dan Doh Mah Ki #14..." Dan Doh Mah Ki... Dan Doh Mah Ki... where's the knife?!?

So instead of saying "judges, with your permission, may we please begin?"

I ended up saying, "judges, with your permission, may I please get a knife?" :o

Bow, bow to leave the ring, find a knife, return, bow again, there we go.

[hwarang cl]

So we get to techniques, and I run and get my partner, and I'm the first one who has my partner there.

So we walk into the ring, I do my introduction. "... and Dan Doh Mah Ki #14..." Dan Doh Mah Ki... Dan Doh Mah Ki... where's the knife?!?

So instead of saying "judges, with your permission, may we please begin?"

I ended up saying, "judges, with your permission, may I please get a knife?" :o

Bow, bow to leave the ring, find a knife, return, bow again, there we go.




LOL, oooooooops

[Ferran]

A question: do Korean swords not use cleaning kits? You know, the ones with rice paper, some chalk powder in a soft hammer... Just curious.

[hwarang cl]

All the people that i know that have cutting swords use a cotton towel to wipe offany material after cutting, then a non abrasive cleaner, then a polishing agent. they use soft damp cotton "swabs"(Usually old tee shirts)

[Choiyoungwoo]

From the "ks pics and other media" thread


that happened in 88. still have the poster for that!


The "poster" (it might be the poster for the same tourney in '87) that hwarang cl is referring to has pictures of various masters listed that performed at that demo. there is a large picture or graphic in the center of the poster and around the perimeter there are various individuals photos. For a time in ksw the 4th dans were considered "assistant masters" by definition, but that would not fit in the space under the pic of each 4th dan so instead they abbreviated it

"ASS. MASTER"

ROTFLMAO
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[ember]

Choi:
ROTFLMAO!

LOL, oooooooops

Ooops is right. But we got a laugh out of it. :o :D Poor Coyote had to watch the whole thing... not sure whether to be glad he was there, or wish he was in another ring.

[ember]

PSBN, who I respect greatly,gives me the very important job to take care of his cutting sword after the cutting demo. The sword is my favourite weapon & this one is gorgeous, probably $2G, imported from Korea, thank you very much...needless to say, dropping this is simply NOT an option. He tells me not to sheath it, (makes sense, as it will have the junk from the demo on it & he doesn't want it to get all-bleeeech). Yes sir. No problem. <snip>

That WAS a bit of a trip. Even though it was sheathed the entire time I was holding it, I was VERY aware of how sharp it is/was.

We'd done a practice run the night before, so I knew where I was supposed to be and who I'd be holding for. So I had some hours to think about what I might say or do. I briefly considered doing some funny accent, "Your sword sir...", but ended up not.

As I say in the "tournament" thread, I didn't even take pictures of the cutting for fear of being a distraction.

[buddafinger]

Seen the old staff in the groin happen to a few people, especially staff spin 4. Always cracks me up.

[Pride&Poise]

I've come close on #12. Thankfully, just missed.

[ember]

Well, and then there was the time I was practicing staff spinning #11, and it flew across the room right at KJN. :o

[Bahng Uh Ki]

Well, and then there was the time I was practicing staff spinning #11, and it flew across the room right at KJN. :o :eek: And how many push ups did you do?

[ember]

:eek: And how many push ups did you do?

At least ten. It woulda been more if it had hit!!!!

[Bahng Uh Ki]

At least ten. It woulda been more if it had hit!!!!Let us just say for a moment your bong had hit your master. Would you have just gone down and started doing pushups untill he told you that you could stop? ;)

[coc716]

If we're talking bong "oopses"....

One night I was practicing bong dae ryung; I'm on offense. In part 4 where you do the 2 back rolls, I ended up back rolling a little too close to the office and about 3/4ths of the way through one of the rolls my bong ended up slamming pretty hard into the office window. I didn't break anything, but I hit it so hard and the sound was so loud I was quite afraid that I had broke something.

We have a rule around our dojang.... you hit the ceiling tiles with your bong (or flying boards or whatever), you own SBN Perry lunch. I figure after hitting the window I owe him a 5 course meal. :o

[Bahng Uh Ki]

We have a rule around our dojang.... you hit the ceiling tiles with your bong (or flying boards or whatever), you own SBN Perry lunch. I figure after hitting the window I owe him a 5 course meal. :oGetting to dine with SBN? That in itself could cause a spate of "accidents!"

[ember]

Let us just say for a moment your bong had hit your master. Would you have just gone down and started doing pushups untill he told you that you could stop? ;)

I have no idea anymore. It seems like nine months ago I was almost a completely different person. I know I had this "Uh oh" look on my face. As it was, I was watching for how many I needed to do... And I was thinking this afternoon, there's a part of me that thinks maybe I'd *still* be doing pushups.

Note this is the same technique Equus talked about earlier, on horseback. She's being charitable, the horses I've practiced staff spinning on have been MUCH calmer than her warhorse, and I think I still have managed to poke them, though not hard.

[fightinchance]

I just wanted to bump this thread, it makes me giggle..Ah...where has all the humour gone?

Oh I'll write my embarrassing moment. I'm trying patheticaly to learn spin kick, and Master Darren is holding the target. I wind up, I'm ready to really show him that this girl can master that kick..the next thing I know, I'm flat on the floor face down, having miraculously completed my first front break fall. I look up and straight faced KJN say's "Nice break Fall.....again" What could I do but stand up and pray to hit the target.

[SoonerKSW]

When I first started JKN had us doing situps, calling on different folks to count to ten...if you know how to count in Korean, then fine...well trying to fit in when I get called to count off, trying to think so hard about 2 simple words the word "UNO" came out... :bang:


yeah, thats just how cool I am...

[hwarang cl]

During a BB class, we were all practicing Jok Bong Ee Soo( defence against kicking) and on #1, (when you turn the opponents ankle,then pull and lift their leg), well I guess my partner didn't grab my ankle, instead she had my pants leg. Well when she pulled, she ripped the entire right side of my uniform bottoms off. :eek: All I remember( Ive tried to block it out) was running full speed to the changing area to get a new set of pants. KJN said thats the fastest he has seen anybody pop up off the ground and disappear. Everyone had a good laugh, at my expense of course.

[ember]

When I first started JKN had us doing situps, calling on different folks to count to ten...if you know how to count in Korean, then fine...well trying to fit in when I get called to count off, trying to think so hard about 2 simple words the word "UNO" came out... :bang:


yeah, thats just how cool I am...

BTDT, I totally understand. When I started studying Russian in college (Uni), my brain basically had two modes: "English" and "Spanish". (Yeah, I can think in Spanish, a little, if I choose. Don't usually dream in it, though.) I can't tell you how many times I blanked on the Russian, and could ONLY remember the Spanish.

Once in a while, in a small class (especially weekends), PSBN Alana would rotate through the room, having the students count in any language. That was fun. I learned the Hungarian from a classmate at UHCL, hoping to surprise her with it sometime, but that never worked out.

[kiseki]

...I'm trying patheticaly to learn spin kick...."Nice break Fall.....again"...
wow, I got have a reasonably decent middle spin kick (I've broken a board), and I still don't have a prayer of performing a surprise break fall. Twice now I've slipped in a puddle of my own sweat (on carpet!) while performing a kick as a demonstration to other students, under the gaze of my instructor. And they were simple kicks, side and round house if I recall correctly. I was completely incapacitated by the falls and after the round house, It was at least 3 minutes before I rejoined the class.

[mijorobert]

#1.There is a staff spinning technique which (from what I understand) is supposed to be done from the back of a horse. Over the head, behind the back, over the head, like that.

Number 11 right?

[ember]

Number 11 right?

Yes.

[ember]

So I showed up for class a few months ago, and they were playing one of the tournament DVDs in the lobby. A couple of juniors were there, and one of them informed me that those were not white belts doing the demo. I said "no, they're not". And he came up with this (to the Transformer's tune):

"Kuk Sool Won: Students in Disguise"

:)

[kiseki]

"Kuk Sool Won: Students in Disguise"
nice.
I've seen a few clips in which yellow, blue and red belts somehow had instuctors jerseys...

[fightinchance]

Tonight I had a first in KS.

We are preforming our forms for the class getting ready for tournament...each belt level at a time.

I Have to use the bathroom...REALY badly. I had kept looking at the guy next to me. "should I go?" But I was having a difficult time finding a moment to get KJN's attention appropriatly to be excused. I had just stood up to do so. (At this time things are getting URGENT). He must have taken that as a que to call my belt group up.

I'm half way through the form when suddenly :eek: I almost loose it. I lost my balance. Stumble, cetch myself (and my bladder - Barely) and stood up at attention. I'm Dying at this point when one of the KSN's says...well finish it. I GENTLY finish the form, bow out and RUN to the Bathroom. Of course some of the guys caught on to what happened and we had a good laugh on my behalf. Sigh.

All I can say is that I Realy hope I don't do that in Scotland! :cry:

[Fu_Ling_Yoo]

Tonight I had a first in KS.

We are preforming our forms for the class getting ready for tournament...each belt level at a time.

I Have to use the bathroom...REALY badly. I had kept looking at the guy next to me. "should I go?" But I was having a difficult time finding a moment to get KJN's attention appropriatly to be excused. I had just stood up to do so. (At this time things are getting URGENT). He must have taken that as a que to call my belt group up.

I'm half way through the form when suddenly :eek: I almost loose it. I lost my balance. Stumble, cetch myself (and my bladder - Barely) and stood up at attention. I'm Dying at this point when one of the KSN's says...well finish it. I GENTLY finish the form, bow out and RUN to the Bathroom. Of course some of the guys caught on to what happened and we had a good laugh on my behalf. Sigh.

All I can say is that I Realy hope I don't do that in Scotland! :cry:


Very funny :D :D :eek: :D

[KSNBWilliamson]

I know many have had this experience, but I want to make sure that people learn from my example. When you are over 6' tall ( I'm 6'3") and use a 6 foot staff, pay very, very close attention to where you are at, who is around you and how tall the ceiling is.

Now, keep in mind that this was all in one day and at the time I was a Dan Bo Nym and I was practicing staff spinning recently learned ... yes, I know you see where this is going.

We were spinning staffs in a group of 5. Well..... I thought I had enough room. I was working on number 11 and the one on my right was starting over on number 1. I was just close enough to catch his staff on the down swing which increased the staff's speed, ripping it from his hands and vaulting it end over end across the room narrowly missing 2 blue belts working on techniques.

Think that's it... oh no.

Hitting his staff then caused me to fumble mine in which I almost recovered it if it wasn't for the Jyo Kyo Nym to my right. The good part is I kept my staff from spinning away. The bad part is that his shin was the object that helped me gain control over it.

After I recovered from the push-ups ( A lot of them ) I started on 12 without problems and went to 13. Remember the heigth thing? I didn't. The second swing on 13, SLAM. Straight into and through half a ceiling tile. It would still be hanging there if I didn't jump to the left carrying the staff with me protecting my head from any potential falling debris.

Did I mention I now have the arms and chest of a Gorilla from all the push-ups I've had to do. (Sigh ) Maybe I'll get lucky and shrink.... wait.. maybe a shorter staff....hmmmmm.... staff spinning with a Dan Bong....

[hwarang cl]

Back when I was a DBN, We were doing staff meditations in BBC and KJN was saying that we should be able to spin the staff fast enough where it would "cut air"/ whistle. So me being me I deceided to try it out. Well if any of you remeber the old CL dojang, KJn was by his private changing room door that was on the training floor, doing his hand training, and my uniform at the time was made from a lite satin/silk blend, so anyway here I am spinning as fast as I could and my stupid pants leg get caught by the staffs wind sends my bong flying right towards KJN, I mean it landed inches from him. So here I am redfaced and worried that KJn was going to start yelling at me and he calmly just said "Your lucky you are only going to do ten pushups, if it would've hit me you'd be doing pushups till I go tired of looking at you doing pushups". Ever since then No one will ever stand be by me while I'm doing staff Med's. well atleast those who were there. :D :D :D

[kiseki]

Ever since then No one will ever stand be by me while I'm doing staff Med's. well atleast those who were there. :D :D :D
I'm confused, are they worried about you hitting them, or about having to do pushups until you get tired of watching them?

[Bahng Uh Ki]

This brings up an interesting question. If ten pushups are standard for dropping your weapon, and if you hit a Kwan Jang Nim with it while dropping it, the standard is "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching", then how many push up would be acceptable in between? 20 for another student and twenty more for each dahn ranking above the person who made the mistake? That would be 40 for a color belt hitting a Jyo Kyo Nim, and 60 for a Jyo Kyo Nim hitting a Pu Sa Bum Nim, although I'd think it would still be "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching" if a Sa Bum Nim hit said Kwan Jang Nim. Maybe those numbers should be exponential.

"Until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching" could be only 20. I would think that would depend on how much it hurt: only 20 for barely touching; until Kwan Jang Nim is ready to lock up for the night for "that really hurt".

[hwarang cl]

I'm confused, are they worried about you hitting them, or about having to do pushups until you get tired of watching them?


I think the first, but in all fairness I havent flung my staff at anyone in awhile.

[hwarang cl]

This brings up an interesting question. If ten pushups are standard for dropping your weapon, and if you hit a Kwan Jang Nim with it while dropping it, the standard is "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching", then how many push up would be acceptable in between? 20 for another student and twenty more for each dahn ranking above the person who made the mistake? That would be 40 for a color belt hitting a Jyo Kyo Nim, and 60 for a Jyo Kyo Nim hitting a Pu Sa Bum Nim, although I'd think it would still be "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching" if a Sa Bum Nim hit said Kwan Jang Nim. Maybe those numbers should be exponential.

"Until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching" could be only 20. I would think that would depend on how much it hurt: only 20 for barely touching; until Kwan Jang Nim is ready to lock up for the night for "that really hurt".

Its all upto the person that got hit. Say if you hit me I'd probably just say "oh well it happens" and let you do your 10. But If you hit say YKJN Id say you'd have really strong arms and chest muscles after the year of push ups that you have done. :D :D

[kiseki]

This brings up an interesting question. If ten pushups are standard for dropping your weapon, and if you hit a Kwan Jang Nim with it while dropping it, the standard is "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching", then how many push up would be acceptable in between?
I know that if the national flag (hung by students before class at Tech) falls, the standard is 500...

Yeah, I would get tired of watching someone do push ups pretty quickly. I'd prefer to throw out a high number and get back to my training.

Dropping your weapon = push ups makes sense to me since you then become vulnerable should it be a real situation versus an opponent with a weapon. However, explain to me why whacking various appendages hard enough to temporarily incapacitate you, but not hard enough to make you drop your weapon only yields entertainment for the rest of the class?

[Choiyoungwoo]

How does push ups improve your ability to NOT drop the weapon?

Do you people really believe that this helps students learn.

Please tell me this is all a big joke!
No matter how you "spin" it, :D :D it is degrading and unconstructive to punish someone who is eagerly, but poorly, trying for performing a skill that YOU HAVE FAILED TO TEACH THEM WELL.

Who should do the push ups???????? If anyone it's the teacher first then the student may follow.

and in the other case, if a teacher gets ACCIDENTALLY gets hit by a dropped weapon then maybe they should teach them a little better. Usually that is called an occupational hazard. If the teacher doesn't like it, then get off the floor, get the hell out of the way, or get a different job, but don't punish those you mean to lead for ineptitude from your teaching.

If intentional then that may require intervention of a different sort.

[Fu_Ling_Yoo]

I've always been under the impression that we do pushups for several reasons.

First; to re-focus the mind, maybe they were doing them for awhile and dropped it because they lost their focus.

Second; to maybe develop more muscle in the arms, maybe they lack the the muscle to do the spinning or what ever, though if thats the case should they really be spinning a weapon in the first place, also on this I dont really use muscles to spin, I was always taught the key to most weapons if not all is in the wrists, so unless people are doing some kind of wrists or finger pushups I don't see this being reasonable excuss for handing out pushups.

Thrid; maybe its just a cultural thing (military culture), if you dropped your weapon in battle it probably be a bad thing. So giving pushups maybe reinforces that concept that you'd be dead, but since your not do pushups. But again in this modern age I have not been in any battles/fights/situations that required me to use a staff as a weapon Soooo....IDK about this theory.

I really dont care if I have to do a measly 10 pushups, and dont see the big deal about them. Do them if you want, dont if you feel its degrading and unconstructive.

[Choiyoungwoo]

First; to re-focus the mind, maybe they were doing them for awhile and dropped it because they lost their focus. well if your mind is not focused then you shouldn't be training with a weapon,, and if you are then it's your teachers fault for letting you. If push ups are ok to "revive the attention" then why not a good smack on the head with the staff. it is much faster and work better to regain the focus.

Second; to maybe develop more muscle in the arms, maybe they lack the the muscle to do the spinning or what ever, though if thats the case should they really be spinning a weapon in the first place, also on this I dont really use muscles to spin, I was always taught the key to most weapons if not all is in the wrists, so unless people are doing some kind of wrists or finger pushups I don't see this being reasonable excuss for handing out pushups. you are correct

Thrid; maybe its just a cultural thing (military culture), if you dropped your weapon in battle it probably be a bad thing. So giving pushups maybe reinforces that concept that you'd be dead, but since your not do pushups. But again in this modern age I have not been in any battles/fights/situations that required me to use a staff as a weapon Soooo....IDK about this theory. a cultural thing yes cultural.... root word cult..... i.e re enforces ones sense of subordinace to others through petty and meangless rituals.

I really dont care if I have to do a measly 10 pushups, and dont see the big deal about them. Do them if you want, dont if you feel its degrading and unconstructive.

I agree but the push ups are not the point, as a matter of fact they are usually a good exercise. It's the conditions under which you are "required" to do them that is suspect. it seems like a little thing, I know , but what will it lead to. Can anyone say "indoctrination" or is it called etiquette. I get those two mixed up all the time.....Goofy me :confused: :confused:

[Fu_Ling_Yoo]

If push ups are ok to "revive the attention" then why not a good smack on the head with the staff. it is much faster and work better to regain the focus.

Talk about degrading and unconstructive.

re enforces ones sense of subordinace to others through petty and meangless rituals.

Then why bow/salute , or even wear uniforms and rankings ?


:topic: Anyway sorry for getting off-topic, maybe this should be a thread

[Choiyoungwoo]

Talk about degrading and unconstructive.



Then why bow/salute , or even wear uniforms and rankings ?


:topic: Anyway sorry for getting off-topic, maybe this should be a thread

Uniforms are not degrading and salutations, although ritualistic in appearence, serve the purpose of recognizing the nation state in an honorable and dignified way. None of which is petty nor ambiguious. The "punishment" of the pushups is unnecessary. If the class needs strength training then do it , if they need bong practice then do that. Regardless of the intention, people perceive it as a punishment

There is nothing degrading about ranks.

[dbt4581]

True funny....

I was leading mohm puhl ki with a small junior class. There were only about 5 kids that day. Little Jacob was there. This Jacob is a chubby little 5 year old that is just a handful!

With legs apart, I made the statement that my legs were very sore and it was hard to stretch on a Saturday morning. Jacob mumbled something with "sore too" and the end. I said I'm sorry sir, what did you say? He mumbled again and all I heard was "sore" at the end. Wanting to give the little padawan a chance to speak, I asked (regretfully) one last time. I'm so sorry Jacob, I still couldn't hear you... what did you say is sore? He said in a somewhat louder voice "MY BUTT". :eek: I was speechless...uhhhh. The other kids were giggling. I started stuttering, trying to maintain composure and said "I'm sorry sir..." and before I could say another word he continued... "that's why I didn't wipe it". I couldn't talk, count, or stop laughing for 5 solid minutes. I had tears and my stomach was hurting from laughing so hard. After regaining composure...barely...I told him to only tell that to parents. He said "why?" I left it at that.

Kids.... gotta love 'em. :D

[ember]

This brings up an interesting question. If ten pushups are standard for dropping your weapon, and if you hit a Kwan Jang Nim with it while dropping it, the standard is "until the Kwan Jang Nim gets tired of watching", then how many push up would be acceptable in between?

I think it really depends on the situation. The one I describe ~10 or so posts ago, if I was certain my staff had hit KJN I'd happily have done pushups until someone said stop. Bu I think I would have felt AT LEAST as bad if it had hit someone else, especially a junior, no matter what their rank.

But when I was thinking about it again last fall... I do agree with Choi that we need to consider what pushups are for. Like Fu, we're told that they're to refocus the mind. Unlike Choi, I think 10 or 20 pushups is quite reasonable; I don't consider that degrading or punishment. And I find that pushups do help if my mind was wandering.

Thinking it over now, I think 500 pushups, or a whole year of pushups ,would be excessive. (The H&F forum experts will tell you that doing more than ~100 pushups doesn't improve strength, it only improves your ability to do pushups.) Clearly, in the case I described, I needed more practice. Doing huge numbers of pushups would interfere with the *practice* I needed to be doing. If I'd done pushups instead of practice for the next month, I could not have taken gold in staff spinning at the March tournament.

Accidents happen, and dropping / losing one's weapon is a part of learning. I dare to guess that even Kuk Sa Nim drops a weapon once in a while.

What I think would be different in the situation would be if there were some willful negligence to it. Or worse, if the weapon were thrown. Those kinds of cases, I think would require more than 10-20 pushups.

The other thing, though, is that any instructor is going to have their own "house rules". They may be strict, but strict does not necessarily mean punishment or abuse. If the "house rule" is no late papers, then I fully expect to get a zero for a paper not done on time. If the "house rule" is 10 pushups for a dropped weapon, I'll do 10 pushups.

What might be abusive would be if there are strange exceptions to the house rules, if they somehow don't apply to everybody (meaning more along the lines of "teachers pet" exceptions. I can readily see substituting situps or squats if something medical prevented a student from pushups.)

[TXKukSoolBB]

I'm so sorry Jacob, I still couldn't hear you... what did you say is sore? He said in a somewhat louder voice "MY BUTT". :eek: I was speechless...uhhhh. The other kids were giggling. I started stuttering, trying to maintain composure and said "I'm sorry sir..." and before I could say another word he continued... "that's why I didn't wipe it". I couldn't talk, count, or stop laughing for 5 solid minutes. I had tears and my stomach was hurting from laughing so hard. After regaining composure...barely...I told him to only tell that to parents. He said "why?" I left it at that.

Kids.... gotta love 'em. :D

As a parent of a 3 and 5 year old...I can so see that. You have to love the honesty!

[BarnziKsw]

i just got stopped by the police with my bo staff on my way home from kuk sool

Police: what the stick for
me:its not a stick
police: looks like one
me: Dont be so ignorant
police: dont get funny smart ass, what are u doin with the
stick
me:its a martial arts weapon
police: oh do u need a licence for it
me:its a stick............
police:next time try not to look so suspicous
me:hide the stick?
*police car drives away*

[Bahng Uh Ki]

Don't get funny with the police.

It is a stick. That is one thing that is nice about the bong. Any stick is a weapon if you can use a bong. Our fancy bongs aren't JUST sticks, but they are sticks.

Someone walking down the street with a weapon is suspicious. They would be remiss in thier duties if they didn't ask what you were doing.

[swntzu]

i just got stopped by the police with my bo staff on my way home from kuk sool

Police: what the stick for
me:its not a stick
police: looks like one
me: Dont be so ignorant
police: dont get funny smart ass, what are u doin with the
stick
me:its a martial arts weapon
police: oh do u need a licence for it
me:its a stick............
police:next time try not to look so suspicous
me:hide the stick?
*police car drives away*

That's just asking for trouble. Why didn't you have it in a case?

[BarnziKsw]

because i have allready spent too much money on martial arts and other things

[JSun]

Come on, it's a stick. What's suspect about walking down the road with a cane? Not much different. Some cops need smart ass remarks to their questions when they're obviously just harrassing someone walking down the street because the cops don't have anything else better to do and they're on some power trip. If you're not doing anything wrong and the police are harrassing you, I say say what you what (within the boundries of the law). They're there to protect and serve, not rule the streets with an iron fist.

[kiseki]

because i have allready spent too much money on martial arts and other things
I made mine!

If you're not doing anything wrong and the police are harrassing you, I say say what you what (within the boundries of the law). They're there to protect and serve, not rule the streets with an iron fist.
Still, it is not particularly smart to piss someone off who can often come up with something wrong with what you are doing. Sure I get crazy mad when cops pull me over while riding my bike (has happened three times now), but if they leave and don't give you a ticket (has happened three times), who cares that some cop was going on a power trip?
Unless you are specifically targeted by cops all the time, I can't imagine anyone having that little patience.

[swntzu]

Come on, it's a stick. What's suspect about walking down the road with a cane? Not much different. Some cops need smart ass remarks to their questions when they're obviously just harrassing someone walking down the street because the cops don't have anything else better to do and they're on some power trip. If you're not doing anything wrong and the police are harrassing you, I say say what you what (within the boundries of the law). They're there to protect and serve, not rule the streets with an iron fist.

I could say something about Americans here but I'll refrain from that.

The staff is a weapon. There is no doubt about it. Carrying it around uncovered is just asking for trouble.

How much is a case? About £15 (<$30) at most? Surely it's better to get a case and avoid the situation all together.

Think about it. Would you carry a pool cue around the street? I thought not.

[BarnziKsw]

lol but when you buy a pool cue you get a case with it, but when a case costs just as much as a weapon, i dont see the point in wasting my money on it, also if i had a case, dont you think i would look alot more suspicious because i have something concealed???

[Shibby!]

Its a stick!

You dont need a case!!!!!

Its not as if your running around with it going mad, swinging it at people!


Nick

[JSun]

I could say something about Americans here but I'll refrain from that.

The staff is a weapon. There is no doubt about it. Carrying it around uncovered is just asking for trouble.

How much is a case? About £15 (<$30) at most? Surely it's better to get a case and avoid the situation all together.

Think about it. Would you carry a pool cue around the street? I thought not.

I'd say you're right to refrain from saying something about Americans. Unless you've lived where I live, you don't have a frame of reference regarding law enforcement officers. Where I live, if the 5-0 is on the street beat and one of their boys catches some flack from someone hustling on the street, they get two or three cops and go back to find them the next weekend and rough them up. They video hookers their busting and let them walk on charges for "favors". I'm not just saying this, I know a few of the cops. Don't hold them to a higher standard because of their job. They're humans, and they're just as corrupt as the rest of us.

As for trying to generalize my statements and lump me into a group of people you'd consider representative of the "typical red blooded patriotic American", you'd be sorely mistaken in your assumption of what type of person I am.

There are a number of older citizens who walk around with staffs and sticks in my neighborhood. It's a weapon alright, but what about defending yourself against a pack of dogs running the roads. Let me guess, you guys in the UK don't have dogs running the road, right? :rolleyes: Is it any different than picking up a stick on the side of the road and using it as a club to defend yourself? Last time I checked, trees are still legal in most countries.

[JSun]

Still, it is not particularly smart to piss someone off who can often come up with something wrong with what you are doing. Sure I get crazy mad when cops pull me over while riding my bike (has happened three times now), but if they leave and don't give you a ticket (has happened three times), who cares that some cop was going on a power trip?
Unless you are specifically targeted by cops all the time, I can't imagine anyone having that little patience.

He wasn't doing anything wrong and I was under the assumption they didn't have any reason to ticket him. Who cares if they get pissed because you're not kissing their @$$?

Actually, I care if a cop is on a power trip. It's one of my biggest pet peeves. :woo:

[swntzu]

I'd say you're right to refrain from saying something about Americans. Unless you've lived where I live, you don't have a frame of reference regarding law enforcement officers. Where I live, if the 5-0 is on the street beat and one of their boys catches some flack from someone hustling on the street, they get two or three cops and go back to find them the next weekend and rough them up. They video hookers their busting and let them walk on charges for "favors". I'm not just saying this, I know a few of the cops. Don't hold them to a higher standard because of their job. They're humans, and they're just as corrupt as the rest of us.

As for trying to generalize my statements and lump me into a group of people you'd consider representative of the "typical red blooded patriotic American", you'd be sorely mistaken in your assumption of what type of person I am.

There are a number of older citizens who walk around with staffs and sticks in my neighborhood. It's a weapon alright, but what about defending yourself against a pack of dogs running the roads. Let me guess, you guys in the UK don't have dogs running the road, right? :rolleyes: Is it any different than picking up a stick on the side of the road and using it as a club to defend yourself? Last time I checked, trees are still legal in most countries.

Point taken. What a rant!

Sounds like some pretty awful law enforcement you have there. Sounds like all the more reason to fly under the radar. This definitely means I'm not going anywhere near the US for work etc.

[dbt4581]

Anything that can be used to cause damage or bodily injury may be deemed as a weapon in the US. It's that simple.

[Shibby!]

Anything that can be used to cause damage or bodily injury may be deemed as a weapon in the US. It's that simple.

dammit, guess im banned from walking the streets then!

Nick

[ember]

"Anything can be a weapon, child. It's time you learned to improvise."

One of the first self-defense workshops I ever attended suggested rolling up a magazine or newspaper to use as a short stick.

[dbt4581]

dammit, guess im banned from walking the streets then!

Nick

Notice I didn't say "prohibited weapon"... just weapon. So you're safe to walk the streets depending on how you use yourself. :)

[JSun]

:topic:

I just wanted to use one of the new smilies :cool:

[Studude67]

my brother Simon KSN from Norwich got caught out at the Norfolk show the other year when someone snapped him doing a front breakfall with his head in the dirt and his feet still up in the air like a dart in the ground, but i reckon hes probably disposed of that pic by now :P

[ksnsimon]

the grass was wet which caused me to slip ;)

[ember]

So, the other day in BBC, a student dropped her staff. She picked it up right away, saying "Five second rule" to try and get out of pushups. That was a new one, I might have given her this one time just for creativity...

[fightinchance]

Bump!:hat:

[ember]

I just watched my toddler do about 15-20 side kicks in a row, holding on to the edge of the bathtub!!!!!!!

[weeginger]

My accident removed (a minor) part of my body.

When I was a DBN, there were a bunch of people running and jumping off a hard foam ramp and doing various spins, jumps and somersaults. I thought I would give it a shot so I ran, jumped, tucked my legs in, somersaulted half-way and then bailed. As I straightened out I completely lost rotational momentum and faceplanted with great force, chipping one of my teeth. After the shock had subsided, my eyes welled up with tears, not because of the pain or fear but that I had to skip the rest of the class.

Thanks for letting me resurrect this thread. :)

[unknown-KJN]

My accident removed (a minor) part of my body.I'll assume you're referring to the portion of your tooth which got chipped off as a result of your forceful faceplant (ouch!).

Thanks for letting me resurrect this thread. :)No problem, wee-gee, but I fail to see the humour in you needing to get a cosmetic dental prosthetic so that you can once again smile without being self-conscious about a jagged grin. I agree that such a loss is quite minor when compared to losing a limb in an industrial accident, or getting your lungs pierced by a steering column as a result from an automobile collision. Granted, accidents do happen as a part of life and I can appreciate that many of the things which occur in a MA class can be rather funny, but I tend to draw the line at serious harm or injury (a bumped shin is one thing, but a chipped tooth is quite another).

I'm also curious as to why you were allowed to "have a go" if you obviously hadn't been sufficiently trained to do the somersault correctly, or why you weren't at least assisted with a spotter or two. No irreverence aimed at your MA instructor, but consider the tone of CYW (post #65) when he balks about meting out push-ups as punishment, and you can ascertain how I feel about whoever was in charge when you took your spill, WRT the perceived negligence (no question about it IMO, as SOMEONE definitely dropped the ball).

If you ask me, it was an accident that could've been avoided had the proper precautions been taken, and exercising established safety procedures when it comes to performing acrobatics is no laughing matter. :thinking:

[weeginger]

It's funny to me as being such a daft thing to do. I remember it in the style of slapstick with me stopping at the apex, floating for a second with my arms flailing wildly in the air and then landing in a crumpled heap. Of course it was stupid, but I don't think anyone else thought I would try something so daft which is why I wasn't stopped. They thought I was just going to be doing jump side kicks since I had already been doing so.

Needless to say, I am more safety conscious nowadays (though that didn't stop me from headbutting SBN Gavin's knee during soh mohk soo #7 yesterday).

[Pugil]

Had you landed on your head and broken your neck, perhaps, your instructor would have been sued, and your life changed for ever!

[weeginger]

No doubt, but that didn't happen and I think we all learned a lesson.

Perhaps my sense of humour is more cynical than most, but if you look at some of the earlier posts there are examples of people almost hitting others with flying staffs, almost stabbing people in the face with a sword, almost blinding people and a couple of near castrations. Me almost knackering myself is surely not the worst of these?

Today we were doing sparring practice and at one point one of the parents mentioned that there was blood on the floor. It turned out that I had gone about three rounds without realising that my foot was bleeding from catching something in the first. I spent the next five minutes scouring the back of the hall with a wet towel, looking for all the spots of blood that I had flicked around. Fortunately we weren't allowed to use kicks today, otherwise I probably would have flicked some into someone's face.

[unknown-KJN]

Perhaps my sense of humour is more cynical than most, but if you look at some of the earlier posts there are examples of people almost hitting others with flying staffs, almost stabbing people in the face with a sword, almost blinding people and a couple of near castrations. Me almost knackering myself is surely not the worst of these?Probably not, but may I point out that those were posted by people who AREN'T the ones in charge, nor the ones which would face a lawsuit should one get filed. Responsibilities can never be shirked, no matter how much fun life could be if we did. :yeleyes:

[weeginger]

Okay, but I wouldn't be charged or face a lawsuit either. Why the particular focus on my incident?

This does feel a bit odd having an 'argument' with a KJN. :o I feel like I should be doing push-ups simply for not agreeing straight off.

[unknown-KJN]

Why the particular focus on my incident?Because YOU revived the necro thread! :rolleyes:




This does feel a bit odd having an 'argument' with a KJN. :o I feel like I should be doing push-ups simply for not agreeing straight off.ROFL

[weeginger]

Yes sir! Yes I did sir!

*does ten of the best*

[MUSOOLJOHN]

Only 10 ?????

[weeginger]

Ten of the best!

edit: Make that my best. I like doing crab push-ups.

[Killa_Gorillas]

(a bumped shin is one thing, but a chipped tooth is quite another).

Can we have a whip round to buy this pussy a new dress?

[weeginger]

Excuse me?

[Killa_Gorillas]

Excuse me?

Not you. My post is in response to the namby pamby attitude your anecdote received.

[Killa_Gorillas]

do you not think the responses you have had are a pathetic and grotesque over reaction?

[weeginger]

I think I gave my opinion already.

[Killa_Gorillas]

I think I gave my opinion already.

Seems like you just copped a load of crap to me. Keep up the press ups 'sir yes sir!!!!' :)

[Killa_Gorillas]

so yes or no?

[Killa_Gorillas]

well you're clearly not going to reply. I'd say this... stand up for yourself. Your instinct is correct.


Doing martial arts shouldn't be about learning to be a subordinate little eunuch - despite what KSW might tell you. Tell 'em to stick 10 of the best in their arse.

[elliotmurphy]

well, im gonna say it, there is nothing wrong with respect and values. the internet is a public place just like any other, and the fact that you feel that you can say whatever you want rregardless of the content shows a true lack of respect for others killa gorilla, and showing respect for others does not make one a eunich, it just shows that one has more class than some others and maybe, just maybe a modicum of self control and maybe even a sense of humor, have a nice day with ur donkey punch and all

[Killa_Gorillas]

well, im gonna say it, there is nothing wrong with respect and values.

there is when it's not reciprocal and when it's merely subordinate

the internet is a public place just like any other, and the fact that you feel that you can say whatever you want rregardless of the content shows a true lack of respect for others killa gorilla

My content was the entire point. Respect is earned. Next.


, and showing respect for others does not make one a eunich, it just shows that one has more class than some others and maybe, just maybe a modicum of self control and maybe even a sense of humor, have a nice day with ur donkey punch and all

Oh so you're above being disrespectful but not above being smug and passive aggressive?

I'm glad you appreciate the joke in my sig.

Ps - your whole post is an intellectually redundant whine and I'm highly amused by your pathetic attempt at admonishment.

[unknown-KJN]

My post is in response to the namby pamby attitude your anecdote received.Waaaaaa!! I'm telling my mommy that you called me "namby pamby." :cry:




do you not think the responses you have had are a pathetic and grotesque over reaction?I'm not overreacting to anything, K_G, and FYI I'm open to all types of humor, including slapstick. I'm glad to learn that you're such a *tough guy* and immune to any pain. Perhaps, just for grins, you'd agree to stand still with your feet apart whilst I kick you as hard I as can in the 'nads (groin shots are always a slapstick winner, right?). :D

Not all MA classes are geared for he-men such as yourself, where reckless endangerment isn't given a second thought as participants prepare themselves for the grueling hardships of 'the octagon.' I'm certain the faceplant described by weeginger was hilarious to see, but for me, once I learned he suffered more than mere bumps and bruises, the hilarity took a sharp nosedive (much like the ending to his attempted somersault, hehe). To be honest, if he's fine with the outcome of the incident, then so am I. However I suspect that you might be borderline psychopathic if you relish the thought of substantial bodily harm to anyone (including yourself) strictly for the sake of amusement.




Doing martial arts shouldn't be about learning to be a subordinate little eunuchAgreed! But could you dial down the "smart-mouthed wiseacre" role just a smidgeon? :hail:

[Dragon2]

Hello All. I have a story to tell: It was in the middle of 1990's for Instructor training at Hdqt and Master Sims was doing bong training (spinning). Master Sims also told us that if a Master dropped his bong that we would get down and do the 10 pushups with the Master. Master Sims decided to drop his bong intentionally and we all got down to do the pushups not thinking that it was done on purpose, this happened several times and finally after the group caught on to Master Sims plot the next time he dropped his bong we all said out loud " it is your bong and if you drop it you can do your own pushups " but of course Master Sims laughed it off and said he was wondering how long it would take for us to figure out what he was doing. We all had a big laugh after that. D2

[Killa_Gorillas]

Waaaaaa!! I'm telling my mommy that you called me "namby pamby." :cry:

yep feel the buuuuurn :)


I'm not overreacting to anything, K_G, and FYI I'm open to all types of humor, including slapstick. I'm glad to learn that you're such a *tough guy* and immune to any pain. Perhaps, just for grins, you'd agree to stand still with your feet apart whilst I kick you as hard I as can in the 'nads (groin shots are always a slapstick winner, right?). :D

Wont that be in violation of your fervent health and saftey sensibilities? :Angel:


Not all MA classes are geared for he-men such as yourself, where reckless endangerment isn't given a second thought as participants prepare themselves for the grueling hardships of 'the octagon.' I'm certain the faceplant described by weeginger was hilarious to see, but for me, once I learned he suffered more than mere bumps and bruises, the hilarity took a sharp nosedive (much like the ending to his attempted somersault, hehe). To be honest, if he's fine with the outcome of the incident, then so am I. However I suspect that you might be borderline psychopathic if you relish the thought of substantial bodily harm to anyone (including yourself) strictly for the sake of amusement.

I'd say you were overreacting. Giving weeginger what was basically an offhand reprimand over health and saftey was pretty unwarranted if you ask me. A chipped tooth is basically nothing. I'm no he-man but I did get my teeth chipped playing school football (soccer) when I was 8... it was no big deal. More than anything I think you came across as an overly concerned, patronising, killjoy.

Agreed! But could you dial down the "smart-mouthed wiseacre" role just a smidgeon? :hail:

I'll give it a go... but it does look good on me. Can I interest you in a line of sardonic aloofness?

[unknown-KJN]

Wont that be in violation of your fervent health and saftey sensibilities? :Angel:Sure it would, but I'd be willing to make an exception in your case, K_G. :p




More than anything I think you came across as an overly concerned, patronising, killjoy.Oh yeah, that's me! ...one big patronizing killjoy. :yeleyes:

[Killa_Gorillas]

Sure it would, but I'd be willing to make an exception in your case, K_G. :p

perhaps I could wear a box in order to mitigate against any migivings you might have? And perhaps you should wear a PU boot? we wouldn't want you to break a toe nail!!

Oh yeah, that's me! ...one big patronizing killjoy. :yeleyes:

Well, we all have our faults. Not me though. I'm perfect :)

[tulsa]

I got a good one:

I was teaching this one student that had a problem (HIS DAD), the kid was a good kid but his dad was a total jerk. Every time we spared his dad was the "expert" and coached him on every move. The one problem was he was from a TKD school that believed to charge in to get a point. It was sad, point, point, point, point, point match over. The kid was good but dad was an idiot. I kept on trying to get his mother to take him to class, so one day she did. She noticed what he was doing and decided to help me. She and I agreed that we would get her husband on the mat to spar one day. She was there and he took the bait. I had a teenage female Black Belt that I set him up with. Since she was familiar with what was going on I told her just stick a foot up in his face but do not kick. (can you see where this is going?) He charged in like o we thought and ran directly into he foot. BOOM BOOM BOOM OUT WENT THE LIGHTS! I still have it on video. Let's say he closed his mouth from that day on.:evil:

[weeginger]

http://politicsforum.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif Care to share?

[tulsa]

http://politicsforum.org/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif Care to share?

still on VHS.... never got around to putting it Digital format.:evil:

[weeginger]

Dang, old school. Do you still have wind down windows in your car as well?

[tulsa]

Dang, old school. Do you still have wind down windows in your car as well?

Windows? I RIDE a 1978 GL1000 Naked (yes I said Naked) Goldwing!:evil:

[weeginger]

Oh, nicely played sir. I'm actually trying for a motorbike license myself this summer.

[Shibby!]

I got a few....

Before class last year was messing around, was doing some windmills on the floor... ended up bonking my face off the ground and taking a large chunk out my tooth. Doh!

Looked like a freakin hillbilly!


Have seen someone spinning their staff to drop it, then to kick it out the air back into their hand.... i swear it could not be done twice! hahah.


Oh once did a full height round off back somi to have my instructor pretend to try hit me out the air (always did it, a joke) i bailed halfway through and took a bit of a fall.... all was good, just bounced.


Tried to gainer back somersault a pad, but as i went up and kicked i got my foot stuck in the handle of a pad and took a good fall on front of the whole class....
Also did this on wet grass and went for a slide. probably travelled around a foot, with my leg in the air before i hit the ground.

Oh, and last night i jump kicked someone, but as my feet were coming down i put one inside the opposite trouser leg....... very odd again ended up rolling on my back laughing like the rest of the folk.




Thats all i can remmeebr for now. Im sure i have lots more!

[unknown-KJN]

Have seen someone spinning their staff to drop it, then to kick it out the air back into their hand.... i swear it could not be done twice! hahah.Except that I've seen this exact same *accident* happen to someone else. :dunno:


And although not kicking it back into my hands, I used to catch the dropped staff on the top of my foot/ankle ON PURPOSE, to prevent it from lying flat on the ground, protesting that it hadn't truly fallen if I maintained partial control of it in this fashion (but it only worked to reduce the sentence of 10 push ups to five :confused: ). Of course, this tricky maneuver is useless if the staff falls flat right out of your hands (bonk!) or goes bouncing off, end over end, out of your reach (boink, boink, boink, splat!). :bang:

[weeginger]

I don't think I've dropped my staff once since reaching DBN. http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Pugil]

I don't think I've dropped my staff once since reaching DBN. B-)

Then you're not 'pushing' it hard enough in practise!

[unknown-KJN]

I don't think I've dropped my staff once since reaching DBN. B-)What's that? {meaning: B-) } Is it a pair of boobs, a navel and a beer gut? Or were you looking for this smiley: http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[weeginger]

I'm not pushing it hard enough? Why should I push it so hard that I can't hold on to it? I was getting aggro for smacking my head off the floor and now people are telling me to spin my staff so fast that it flies out of my hands and hits someone.

I just can't win!

[unknown-KJN]

I just can't win!Sure you can, wee-gee, just tell Pugil to take a flying leap. :evil:

Why should I push it so hard that I can't hold on to it?You shouldn't. But every once in a while, you should try testing yourself by going as fast as you possibly can (nearing your limit will produce more opportunities to drop your staff whilst spinning it, which is what I think Pugil was getting at). :cool:



I was getting aggro for smacking my head off the floorSorry if I aggravated you, wee-gee. :bow1:

Actually, I think your story is kinda funny, but thought that it was a little sadistic to laugh at your expense, seeing as how the physical damage you incurred was more than just a bump on the noggin.

[Pugil]

Weeginger: F1 racing car drivers who never ever spin off the track in practise, are those who never become world champions!!! You only get better by pushing the limits to the max. That's when you'll occasionally drop your staff [spin off the track] but, in doing so, you will learn exactly how far you can push things at other times – in demonstrations [or in competition], for example.

[Shibby!]

You realise both your instructors are on here dont you?

Now you have advertised the fact you not dropped the staff you WILL be punished and forced to spin it sooo fast it shoots across the room and impales a white belt.

[weeginger]

:o

Yes sir!

[Herbo]

I recall on one of my last tournaments as a DBN, I lost control of my staff and it flew out of my hand and nearly speared a 16yo girl JKN who was judging me. I managed to catch the end of it and finished my spins in somewhat of a hoplite like pose.... I didn't get gold funnily enough.

[Hyeongsa]

During a demonstration, one of my white belt girls that was flipping me around (self defense) did Ki Bohn Sool 5. She wound up letting go of me and I flipped and came to my hands and knees thinking that "oh well, she let go". She then must have thought "oh no, the audience thinks I suck! I should finish him off" ran over and full power front kicked me lifting me clear off the ground (keep in mind this woman is 5'2, maybe 120 at the most). I thought...I was going...to die.

[weeginger]

Oh so long ago when I was a cheeky young yellow belt, I dared to question (then PSBN) KJN Ian Cameron as to the versatility of different techniques. I think I was learning Soh Mohk Soo at the time and thought it silly that I should expect someone to grab my wrist just so. In defence, he told me to grab anywhere and he would do something on me. Of all places I chose the nose.

I was tapping quite soon after.

[weeginger]

Re: KSW funnies

Kids. 'nuff said :D

[Pugil]

You wanna 'funny'... Here's a funny for you...

[weeginger]

One of the other JKNs was teaching the kids class how to do side break falls. To try and reinforce that the landing arm should be kept straight, he told them to hold their arms out in front of them. Cue synchronised Nazi salutes.

(Not related to KSW, but when I was in Berlin we passed the statue of Marx & Engels. The sun was going down so I put my hand up to shield my eyes, only to realise what it looked like I was doing, and where.)