Help me beat my gf whos on JennyCraig

[kjung]

Hey Everyone

I was just wondering is there any way to lose to 10kilos in less than 6months. My gf has just joined Jenny Craig today to lose weight.. but i reckon i can spend that money better elsewhere!

I eat healthy a good balanced diet thanks to all those people who help me before. She doesnt know that we gonna have this competition .. but i wanna know comparing two girls together doing the same thing (losing weight) one on Jenny Craig and the other not who does it faster, better and definitely cheaper(hopefully me)...

Would like some nice simple excerises everyday that I can do in the comfort of my own home or outside ;) (no gym)
Im gonna buy some equipment, aka punching bag and stuff

cheers! ....

[Yohan]

Well, I am a big fan of doing any exercise under the tabatta method (20 seconds on, 10 seconds resting for 4 minutes).

It is best for exercises that use large muscles and large groups of muscles, like squats, military presses, sit-ups, and they require very little equipment. If you want to lose weight, tabatta squats will help you.

Another great way to lose weight is to do sprints on a similar interval (30 seconds on, 30 seconds off for 4 minutes, adding 1 minute every 3 or 4 sessions).

[blessed_samurai]

Go here and get your calorie considerations-->http://www.leehayward.com/calorie_calculator.htm
*Figure out your calories and reduce by 500 daily and after that by 10% weekly until hitting between 1-1.5 pds weight loss weekly.

Go here and check out these workouts--> www.trainforstrength.com

[KickChick]

Well really the secret to the success of many people following the Jenny Craig diet is due to the foods that you purchase. The diet is low fat and portion-controlled and all the ingredients are listed so you know exactly how much fat/protein/carbs and total calories you are consuming with each meal.

It takes a bit more work to do this on your own but you can more economically. Just weigh what you eat, get a nutritional counter and then log it on paper.

Also the Craig method focuses a bit on the psychology of why we eat and why some people cannot resist craving food. Losing weight is as much about your head as your stomach ! ;)

This is their S.T.O.P. technique:

Stop-remind yourself that you have choices;
Think-what are you doing?;
Overview-is food really what you need and will you feel okay if you eat it?;
Pick-choose an alternative to eating or eat (in moderation), if you're truly hungry.

As far as exercise, just be consistent at working out everyday. I find running to be the best (esp. for females) don't ask me why, but running sheds the pounds!

Also don't forget to incoporate resistance training.... ! Muscle burns fat!

[Gary]

google "velocity diet", not sure how healthy it is for you, and it's expensive, but it's fast.

[PlumDragon]

I wrote a reply about this on a previous thread but I dont feel liek searchign for it...

- Eat little meals all throughout the day. Eat somethign for breakfast and keep that metabolism up by constantly putting something in your stomach. Not alot of stuff, just a couple hundred calories here and there. Granoal bar and milk for breakfast, 2 hours later an apple or something, a couple hours later eat a small lunch and repeat this in the afternoon, giving yourself a protein shake after working out.

- Drink LOTS of water.

- Exercises for losing weight are not about utilizing APT and lactic acid, etc. While building muscle can help burn more calories per day, trying to lose weight is most efficiently done by prolonged medium paced exercises. You need to be running/jogging/using an elliptical machine at a reasonable pace for 30-60 minutes, 2 or more times a week. If youre too out of breath to talk during your jog, youre going too fast.

- It snot a big deal to supplement with weights or squats and all that other stuff, but 95% of the fat you burn will be from the prolonged medium pace exercises.

If you do the above, I can almost guarantee that you will lose from 1 to 5 pounds a week depending on how serious you are about it--any faster than that is unhealthy.

[kjung]

hi thanks for your replies
-what is tabatta squats?

[KickChick]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=490160

[Ren-shi-shin]

- trying to lose weight is most efficiently done by prolonged medium paced exercises. You need to be running/jogging/using an elliptical machine at a reasonable pace for 30-60 minutes, 2 or more times a week. If youre too out of breath to talk during your jog, youre going too fast.

- It snot a big deal to supplement with weights or squats and all that other stuff, but 95% of the fat you burn will be from the prolonged medium pace exercises.

If you do the above, I can almost guarantee that you will lose from 1 to 5 pounds a week depending on how serious you are about it--any faster than that is unhealthy.

Where did you get your information? Firstly, more than 2 pounds a week is generally considered unhealthy.
Secondly, medium paced exercises are NOT the most efficient way to lose weight, interval training is. Interval training will burn more calories in the time you work out, and will boost your metabolism for the rest of the day. While more fat may get burned during aerobic exercise, more calories--and hence more weight in general-will burn during intervals.

Supplementing with weight training is a good way to ensure that you don't lose any muscle, and will help you to burn even more calories--the exercise itself will boost metabolism, and one extra pound of muscle gained will typically burn an extra 70 or so calories a day.

[PlumDragon]

Where did you get your information?This is the general approach taken by a variety of fitness models; Ive used it and so have MANY of the models Ive worked with.


Secondly, medium paced exercises are NOT the most efficient way to lose weight, interval training is.Ive tried interval training and it is my experience that medium paced exercises for prolonged periods of time is a more efficient way of dropping fat, given the conditions that I operated in.
Beyond that Im done arguing about it...Everyone works differently, perhaps this isnt the case for you. In the end the guy will choose whatever method me may, but if you claim that more than 2lbs a week is unhealthy (which I think is a reasonable thing to say) then it makes absolutely NO difference what method you use because you can easily burn 2 lbs a week given the method I outlined.


Supplementing with weight training is a good way to ensure that you don't lose any muscle, and will help you to burn even more calories--the exercise itself will boost metabolism, and one extra pound of muscle gained will typically burn an extra 70 or so calories a day.
Agreed. But building muscle takes alot more time than dropping fat, and if his goal is overall weight loss, then while building muscle will help burn the fat off, it wont happen fast enough for his "6 month deadline".

[Freeform]

Keep a food diary and calorie count. Allow yourself a calorie allowance for each day and don't exceed it, plan your meals so that you get your 3 square plus snacks and don't exceed the limit.

If you have to snack randomly eat something like a carrot, it's low in calories compared to it's volume (relavite to other snacks).

[KickChick]

Agreed. But building muscle takes alot more time than dropping fat, and if his goal is overall weight loss, then while building muscle will help burn the fat off, it wont happen fast enough for his "6 month deadline".

I disagree alot with your "fitness model" approach ... ;)

Anyway, adding resistance training to a workout need not take an enormous amount of time out of one's day, and the benefits far exceed the extra time it takes to do a few pumps.

You see, the very best workout program that a person can start doing to lose weight is a program that includes a combination of both strength and cardio training.

Read this article I've posted for my cardio students when I started to introduce a weight lifting segment as part of my cardio program. They didn't realize that lifting some weight has some major changes to one's RMR

http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives11ML3P1A4.html

[kjung]

hi everyone thanks for your input

.... i have to say theres some discrepancies between each calorie calculator... like with more than 100+ or - calories between them.
im not sure im up to that stage where i sit there and count each and every bite for calories so that i dont go over the set amount. ive noticed alot of the food here (australia) doesnt have labelled calories. i try to eat healthy ie no junk food or chips, softdrinks etc.

ive commenced my cardio excerise this weekend... my bf and i have started bike riding together (just rode an hour this Saturday and Sunday - my legs are sore). we are hoping to do this everyday probably after work and when im not going to TKD classes(Tuesday or Wednesday and Friday).

ive looked at getting a standing punching bag(plainly cause i have no where to hang a conventional punching bag) and maybe some weights not too sure.

what other workout would you recommend a girl to do - maybe some ab work outs?(got a flabby stomach), lower back exercises?

[kjung]

hey thanks kickchick =)

you mentioned that resistance training should be incorporated into your cardio excerise. what kind of exercises would they be and something where i wont be putting on too much bulk

[KickChick]

You obviously haven't read this thread
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33179

[kjung]

my gf quit Jenny Craig - mainly cause its too expensive. but she claims after 1week shes lost 1kg :eek: how is that possible when she doesnt do much cardio excerise and all she does eat their food!. she probably gain it all back now - but its not fair... lol maybe i should count my calories too.

what are plyometric excerises? what are some examples of this? especially for TKD'ers

[KickChick]

Do a Search here (search in thread titles, that's an 'advance search") "plyometrics" and see what you come up with it...;)

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/search.php?searchid=741321

[kjung]

my update is so far with just cardio excerise (bike riding) i believe i lost 2kilos or 4.4lbs.. but then i cant really trust my scales(they arent very accurate).

ive gotten my gym mats this weekend so i can start doing things like situps and stuff.. and next week i prolly hunt around for some weights. looking into getting a boxing bag from ebay but im not too sure if this the right size or if its any good

please have a look and let me know... im 5.15feet or 61.8inches

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-FREE-STANDING-UPRIGHT-KICK-PUNCH-BOXING-BAG-1-NR_W0QQitemZ7211622823QQcategoryZ30101QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

thank you

[Crimson_Stone]

A great exercise for MAist.
Equipment: Medicine Ball, an open area.
What's it do? Plyometrics, cardio, resistance training
What's it target? The Whole Freakin' Body
Start from a Squat position. Spring up and jump as high as you can. While in the air throw the medicine ball as far as you can. Sprint as fast as you can to the ball. Rinse. Repeat. Keep it up for 20 minutes or so.

I've never used that kind of bag, so I can't comment on it. However, I do own a WaveMaster Bag (http://www.karatesupply.com/punching_bag_faq.htm) , for an upright, free standing bag I recommend it.

[kjung]

sure np .. hey there seems to be alot of difference sizes for the medicine ball .. maybe i need to find what size will fit me

yeah ive decided to get a heavy punching bag and separate stand for it - just need the money right now

[Radok]

Plenty of guys are good at beating thier girlfriends, it should be easy to find an instructor in this matter.

[kjung]

Radok, lets keep the stupid comments to a minimum please.

You obviously havent the read the thread at all..... in which case you would realise thats not what im asking......derrr

[Legless_Marine]

Hey Everyone

I was just wondering is there any way to lose to 10kilos in less than 6months. My gf has just joined Jenny Craig today to lose weight.. but i reckon i can spend that money better elsewhere!


That's an easy one. Hoodia Gordonii. It's an herb I've been taking as an appetite supressant for 3 weeks now. I'm eating less, and feel absolutely fine. Lost 8 lbs so far.

Let me be clear... I'm not starving myself, but it sure seems a lot easier to say no to the double fudge cheesecake slice.

[Crimson_Stone]

sure np .. hey there seems to be alot of difference sizes for the medicine ball .. maybe i need to find what size will fit me

yeah ive decided to get a heavy punching bag and separate stand for it - just need the money right now

The problem with the stands is if you get the bag swinging too much it will pull the stand over. That makes quite a bit of racket, and the downstairs neighbors appreciate it not.

Medicine balls come in quite a variety. I like soft, squishy ones for throwing and catching. The hard rubber, rigid ones are great for pushups and balancing acts.

[Noontidal]

I know you've already started, but I'd like to encourage you to keep up the bicycle cardio. Just remember, a pound per day is perfectly healthy as long as you are eating right. I lost 40 lbs in just under a month doing cardio, and eating plenty, and it was one of the healthiest things I've ever done for myself. The sheer amount of energy you have makes it worthwhile.

Now, you are likely starting off with considerably less weight than I did, so you have less to lose. Just eat healthy, and be careful. Good luck.

[kjung]

hi

ive been riding the bicycle cardio for a couple of weeks now... still learning as i go... hopefully its working (the weight loss i mean)
thank you noontidal

the problem i have no place to hang a bag.. and we live in a house so im sure neighbours around me wont mind too much.. hmm i prolly go for a hard one then(who am i going to throw and catch the soft ball from as im doing it solo - i dont know)
thank you Crimson_Stone

[TheCount]

This is their S.T.O.P. technique:

Stop-remind yourself that you have choices;
Think-what are you doing?;
Overview-is food really what you need and will you feel okay if you eat it?;
Pick-choose an alternative to eating or eat (in moderation), if you're truly hungry.


In a male persons mind it goes like this:

Mmm... Pizza
I have choices... margarhitta... peperoni... NO, HEALTHY ONES... Mushroom? Think what your doing man! Intending to eat pizza. Is this food really what you want, what you need, will you feel okay if you eat it? Yes.
Choose and alternative... OI, STOP EATING IT, LOOK! ITS NOT WORTH...
and then the concious gets mentally beaten with a big stick

Thats why men turn to exercise

[Yohan]

In a male persons mind it goes like this:

Mmm... Pizza
I have choices... margarhitta... peperoni... NO, HEALTHY ONES... Mushroom? Think what your doing man! Intending to eat pizza. Is this food really what you want, what you need, will you feel okay if you eat it? Yes.
Choose and alternative... OI, STOP EATING IT, LOOK! ITS NOT WORTH...
and then the concious gets mentally beaten with a big stick

Thats why men turn to exercise

LoL - perfect account.

Men: 0
Pizza: 1

[kjung]

ima girl and i dont like pizza ... too oily