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TKD
14-Aug-2003, 08:42 PM
Hey all, I have a tournament coming up in 5 weeks and I'm fresh out of creative and ingenuitive breaking ideas. Please, nothing requiring special breaking material. Otherwise any and all ideas are appreciated.

TheBorderer
14-Aug-2003, 10:01 PM
Hi TKD,been using the search on MAP to look for some help for you(as discussions on breaking have happened more than once!). Here's a link to have a look at for now, could have some good tips for you:

Destruction/ Power testing (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1477)

Unfortunately as I have yet to experience the joys that is breaking/destruction I can't give you any tips, but this thread may be a good starting point (and naturally you can ask the more experienced members, who should be able to help you better than me! :D) hope that helps and good luck when you compete! :)

KickChick
15-Aug-2003, 01:58 AM
I hear you TKD ... I'm always on the lookout for some creative breaks ... that are within my capabilities that is!

Well here is a list of techniques that I have compiled. You can take two or three and combine for an awesome display ... or do one with several boards.

Hand Breaks:

Palm strike
Hammer fist
Elbow strike (downward)
Fore fist punch
Knife-hand (downward)
Elbow strike (forward & Backward)
Knife hand strike (horizontal) Chicken wrist (upward)
Ridge-hand
Upper cut
Spinning back fist
Spinning knife hand
Spinning hammer fist
Spinning elbow
Tiger paw
Punch (speed break)
Ridge hand (speed break)
Knife hand (speed break)
4” Fore-knuckle punch

Foot Breaks:

Heel stomp
Front kick
Axe kick
Knee strike
Side kick (sliding)
Round kick (rear leg)
Side kick (rear leg)
Side kick (jump)
Side kick (front leg)
Side kick (jump, front leg)
Front kick (head height)
Back kick
Crescent (rear leg)
Hook kick (front leg)
Round kick (front leg)
Front kick (jump, head height)
Round kick (jump, rear leg)
Crescent kick (front leg)
Side kick (jump rear leg)
Back kick (jump)
Hook kick (spin)
Crescent kick (spin)
Hook kick (jump, spin)
Back kick (jump, spin)
Crescent (jump, spin)
Twin Front kick
Split kick


Here are some links for breaking videos to give you more ideas ...(I have a few picked out from here!)
http://www.mntaekwondocenter.com/gallery/gallery_movies-breaking.html
http://www.bushidokan.tv/breaking_hi.mpg
http://www.aztaekwondo.com/breaks.htm

TheMachine
15-Aug-2003, 04:35 AM
hmm how about a gauntlet break? can you kick a cigarette dangling from someone's mouth using a spinning kick? that would be creatine or houw about breaking 2 cinder blocks using a ridge hand?

Helm
15-Aug-2003, 01:41 PM
How good are you at kicking? Can you do 540's?
I'd say a triple break (boards at knee, waist and head height),

Its hard to do, but basically you hit the low one with a reverse cresent then jump, hit the waist height one with a roundhouse and continue spinning and hit the head height one with a reverse roundhouse (all of these breaks must be done when you are *not* touching the ground).
Give it a go.

TKD
15-Aug-2003, 03:06 PM
I can do a 540 crescent kick, but the stuff you said seems very very difficult to say the least. In other words, that would be a little out my relm of ability.

KickChick
15-Aug-2003, 03:25 PM
If a 3 kick combo is what you might want to attempt than check out the 3 board break vid (round kick, spin kick, round kick) on
http://www.mntaekwondocenter.com/gallery/gallery_movies-breaking.html
... something to that effect may be more easily accomplished than by doing all 3 without touching ground.

Helm
15-Aug-2003, 03:56 PM
TKD, its suprisingly easy. Mind over matter and all that stuff....

Just do a 360 roundhouse, and instead of landing on your kicking leg, tuck it in, lean right back and throw the reverse roundhouse.

But you *HAVE* to put 100% effort into it. Really throw it with agression.

flyingblackbelt
22-Aug-2003, 07:35 PM
im going to attempt a 9 board step behind side tommorow and the best thing i can tell you to break boards is to not try to break the board but to hit the person holding the board, the board is just in the way you must go through it. However, ignore this if youre trying to doa speed break because you have to pull back for those.

Tosh
23-Aug-2003, 11:50 AM
Nice! 9 boards, are they all one inch thick?

For those of you that knowm i tore my ligaments (again) in my left foot in May.

This week has seen my break one of the tougher re-breakable plastic boards with my left and a 2 board break (with the tougher green and weaker red board), yay go me! Rehabilition seems to be working!! To think I was on crutches after I first injured it!!

Still haven't got the landing confidence for the 540 yet though Helm but it'll get there!!

flyingblackbelt
24-Aug-2003, 03:44 AM
yeah, the boards were all 1 x 12s, (which of course means theyre actually 3/4 by 11 3/4 because the construction industry need s to make things complicated). It took me 4 trys, which really annoys me, but i got through em. also did a six board roundhouse kick.

Joey Rage
25-Aug-2003, 05:51 PM
I've been working on some upper cut breaks.

You know, breaking the bricks or boards from the bottom up. Ive gotten pretty good with an upper cut ridgehand.

Just an idea

TKD
25-Aug-2003, 08:21 PM
After much consideration, I think I'm going to go with a turning kick to 360 turning kick. I'll start with a rear leg turning kick through two boards, then let the kicking leg continue through till I've made a 90 degree turn and then go into the 360 turning kick at head height with two boards. All in one continuous motion.

Depending on how much practice I get in, I might change it to a 180 degree turn then into the 360. Maybe even add another break on the end, just depends on how much I get to practice.

flyingblackbelt
26-Aug-2003, 02:17 AM
i think you might be surprised at the ease that the boards will break tkd. Once you get the turn going you get an amazing amount of momentum going. I have broken with 360 round many a times, at my second dan test i did it while my instructor was standing on a chair holding the board over his head, and hes over 6 foot tall. Ive never broken on the first turn as well as the second turn though and that definately sounds like something i wanna try, good luck and thanks.

TKD
26-Aug-2003, 03:59 AM
I've actually done basically the same thing as you described with the chair. Only difference is that mine was about a foot above my head(not held above a six foot guys head!). Also done one similiar to the break I'm planning now, difference there is that it was just two 360's but at chest level, still 2 boards and the 90 degree turn. I would step it up too 3 boards but I've never done a 3 board 360 instep and I'm not sure that 3 board breaks can be done with alot of aerialism to them(by me anyway:), it's pathetic being a blue belt:(). These boards won't be held securely either, just two hands, if I did 3 boards I'd also have to tape them together. Just not sure if I want that to be my first 3 board 360 instep attempt, that's on top of them not being held securely.

Death_Bunny
24-Nov-2003, 03:59 PM
Well, since this is also about breaking ideas, I was thinking of the one that I want to do for my next Dan. It has to be a three target break and so this is what I've got. Although, I could use ideas too, I feel that it could really use something else.

For the first, I have:
- Front Kick, Knee
- Turning Kick, Waist
- Side Kick, Chest
- Hook Kick, Head

Step behind to the second, for which I have:
- Jumping Turing Kick, Knee
- Landing on kicking leg and jumping again
- Jumping Turning Kick, Waist
- Landing on kicking leg and jumping again
- Jumping Turning Kick, Chest
- Reverse Turning Kick, Head (Immediately after last Jumpin Turning Kick)


Lastly, for the third:
- Jumping Double Front Kick
- (before landing)
- Split Kick

I know that these are not the best ideas, but it is something along the lines of what I can do. Maybe they help you, and maybe they help anyone else, but I would also like to know any other ideas.

Coyote
24-Nov-2003, 04:20 PM
A couple of hand techniques you might try:

Spider break (it's basically a modified palm-heel strike. Ask, and I'll explain it.)
Rising Monkey strike
Forearm drop (great for multiple board breaks)

KickChick
24-Nov-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
A couple of hand techniques you might try:

Spider break (it's basically a modified palm-heel strike. Ask, and I'll explain it.)
Rising Monkey strike
Forearm drop (great for multiple board breaks)

OK ... I took the bait!! ;)


I'm asking! :D

Coyote
24-Nov-2003, 06:09 PM
It's fairly simple in concept. You place your fingertips on the board (place the board so that the striking surface is horizontal rather than vertical), then sink your weight and collapse your fingers at the same time. I usually do it shifting from a narrow shorin stance to a soft bow. The main thing is to make sure that the heel of your hand strikes the center of the board when you go down, so you need to make sure your fingertips are offset a bit when you start.

WorldChampTKD
25-Nov-2003, 03:27 AM
Ok, I thought this was the coolest thing, I saw this guy, and there were guys holding a plate of ice above him, and he did a back flip and broke the ice with his foot. It rocked, I thought that was awesome.

Coyote
25-Nov-2003, 11:22 AM
That is pretty cool. As I understand it, there's a little bit of a dirty trick to breaking ice. My Soke says that every time he's seen an ice break, the ice has been sitting out for a while, warming up-- the middle starts to thaw and the ice is easier to break. You can tell whether the ice is solid all the way through or not by looking at the block. If it's got a cloudy-white center, then it is not as solid.

I don't know if this actually makes the ice easy to break, but it is supposed to make it less difficult. I also cannot testify personally to how true this is (I mean scientifically, I have no reason to doubt my Soke,) but it certainly sounds believable.

I thought of another cool break for you to try. This would, necessarily, be a speed break. What you do is, you take a regular taper candle and two sheets of notebook paper. You cut a hole in each sheet of paper and suspend the candle between them. The object is to break the candle and the wick without tearing the paper. I've seen this break done successfully twice, and about a dozen times without success.

Good Luck!

Death_Bunny
26-Nov-2003, 03:54 PM
I must say that this Spider break does sound interesting, and I very well might try that one. I am thinking of changing the first one at the LEAST because at least that way I can get a few hand strikes in as well. I find that it needs to be balanced as well, but I am well am still lost as to what I sould do for it. Ah well, I suppose that I can think of something before too long.

Artikon
27-Nov-2003, 12:07 AM
Ice breaking . . . the middle doesn't melt first as it's the outside environment that acts on the ice causing the outside to melt first. The white you see in the middle is caused by a temperature difference between the outside and the inside I believe, not because it's melting first.

Breaking ice of course looks really cool, but once again some people leave it melt a bit first, which of course makes it a bit easier. The trick to breaking ice though is to hit dead on with proper technique or you might slip with your attacking tool. The danger to this is that ice is brittle and shatters when hit. This can create some sharp shards of ice that can easily slice the skin if a person hits wrong.

Coyote
27-Nov-2003, 03:33 PM
I'll checkwith my soke again and see what, exactly, he has to say about it. He has actually done ice breaks before, and, I admit it, I have not. I may have misspoken (-typed?). At any rate, the basic idea is true-- the temperature difference makes the ice easier to break than otherwise.

Disciple
27-Nov-2003, 11:51 PM
Once Ice begins to thaw the entire are is begins to melt outside to the inside, but sometimes air finds the imperfections and heats the iside gas that is trapped and cracks the isides a little bit after some drippage has occured.

A really cool break I had the priviledge to hold for: Side ariel kick break.

Yang, Dae-han
28-Nov-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by TKD
I can do a 540 crescent kick, but the stuff you said seems very very difficult to say the least. In other words, that would be a little out my relm of ability.

I bet I could train you to accomplish a 720 degree kick in 2 weeks, alas...you are not here.

As for demo (didn't read entire thread), do you hae any (as many needed) holders?

Yes, then.....

What are going for? Timing? Speed? Power? There are a multitude of possibilities.

Sorry for being so blunt, but can you tell me (age, level (can and can't do presently), and anything you think may be of importance <no worries on PC>.

Cheers,
Dae-han