Frequently asked questions

[bela diri]

Hi everbody

I am at the moment putting together a website for my Silat Instructor. On the site i want to put a section of Frequently asked questions on silat which could be anything to do with silat.

I was then wondering what are the most asked questions to instructors so could you help me out here.

Bela diri :)

[Crucible]

Are you the person who sells the DVDs on ebay of Tatang, Freddie Fernandez, Andy Ibrahim and Mena working out in Luneta?

[bela diri]

No I am not that person sorry I have a day job and earn my money honestly. I am usually very private and just read this forum because my knowledge and understanding of silat is very young. I was told to avoid forums and can now see why

[Crucible]

No disrespect. Was simply curious. I believe they use the same name as your screen name.

This is a great site and you should stick around. If I offended you should ignore me and enjoy some of the other members here. There's a lot of knowledge and valuble input that can be gained. My apologies for throwing your thread off track.

[Crucible]

Here, let me offer a few FAQs,
What is silat?
Where does silat come from?
How is it practiced?
Are there weapons in silat?
What can I expect from my training?
How does silat differ from X(insert name of other art)?
Are there uniforms?
Does silat offer a grappling component?
Is this a good art for X(Police officers/Womens self defense/ect)?
What is the history of Silat?
History of instructor
History of school
History of the system

[Kiai Carita]

Hi everbody

I am at the moment putting together a website for my Silat Instructor. On the site i want to put a section of Frequently asked questions on silat which could be anything to do with silat.

I was then wondering what are the most asked questions to instructors so could you help me out here.

Bela diri :)

I don't know about FAQ but frequently misused:

1. JURUS: means specific movement which is drilled into the pesilat. JURUS is not the plural of JURU which is not an Indonesian word. Often Western silat players talk about the JURU...which is not correct.

2. ADAT: means the customary practise not only the Malay adat. The adat in England is when you eat you must not burp. The adat amongst the Malay peoples is never to put yourself first, and so on.

3. SILAT: means any skillfull and wholistic and flowing way of fighting not only the martial arts of Indonesia: we talk of Silat Cina but not Silat Jepang. Why I don't know but maybe the Japanese were very stern about their identity while the Chinese had been loved in Indonesia since the beginning of history (the love then became a love-hate relationship) and the Japanese defeated the Dutch gods who wore shoes. Silat lidah, the silat of the tounge means debating skills.

4.MORE: you can really go on and on but it is very late in London now.

Warm salaams to all
KC

[ImperialDragon]

Hi everbody

I am at the moment putting together a website for my Silat Instructor. On the site i want to put a section of Frequently asked questions on silat which could be anything to do with silat.

I was then wondering what are the most asked questions to instructors so could you help me out here.

Bela diri :)

If you don't live in an asian coutry you'd be better to do Wing Chun

[Kiai Carita]

No I am not that person sorry I have a day job and earn my money honestly. I am usually very private and just read this forum because my knowledge and understanding of silat is very young. I was told to avoid forums and can now see why

Bela diri,

I think that this forum is great espescially the silat forum. We are all adults here and when the threads heat up we cool them down ourselves. Please be patient and bear with this forum. In silat terms, seeing one negative response should not make you stop. Personally I have made many friends through this forum and all the silat players I met through this forum have been true pendekars.

Warm salaams to all,
KC.

[Kiai Carita]

If you don't live in an asian coutry you'd be better to do Wing Chun

:D :D :D :D :D :D Wing Chun is an aspect of silat or silat before it came to the archipelago.

I would say better do silat as it has a more travelled Wing Chun in it. There are good silat schools strategically placed all around the globe. In the UK I could recomend at least five.

Warm salaams to all
KC

[tellner]

Kiaia, I haven't been in a fight yet this week. Don't make me beat you up.

[ICT]

I don't know about FAQ but frequently misused:

1. JURUS: means specific movement which is drilled into the pesilat. JURUS is not the plural of JURU which is not an Indonesian word. Often Western silat players talk about the JURU...which is not correct.


Kia,

I thought I knew the difference but make sure I understand this:

1. Juru is a solo form like a Karate's kata, correct?

2. Jurus is a 2 person set like Karate's one step sparing, correct?

3. I've seen people say this Jurus Jurus, is there a difference from Jurus?

Just want to make sure I understand these terms,

Eddie Ivester

[Kiai Carita]

Kia,

I thought I knew the difference but make sure I understand this:

1. Juru is a solo form like a Karate's kata, correct?

2. Jurus is a 2 person set like Karate's one step sparing, correct?

3. I've seen people say this Jurus Jurus, is there a difference from Jurus?

Just want to make sure I understand these terms,

Eddie Ivester

Thank you for the question Eddie,

Let me answer:

1. Juru is not a silat term. It means an expert of something or keeper of something and only is used in composite words. Example: jurumudi (from juru meaning expert, keeper, and kemudi, meaning rudder = jurumudi means captain), jurukunci (kunci means key, jurukunci means = keeper of the keys (of a holy place), jurutulis (tulis means write, jurutulis means = secretary).

2. Jurus is widely used in silat-speak and in silat means two things: a) the series of movements like kata in karate, and b) -to keep the karate comparisson, the break down of the movements in the kata, each single move is also a jurus, not only the whole sequence. It can be done alone or with partner(s). In the wider use of the word it can also have the meaning of direction and time.

3. Jurus-jurus is the plural of jurus. Example: Jurus Bangau Mengitari Sarang itu terangkai dari jurus-jurus kepretan, colokan, lompatan, sapuan dan tendangan : The jurus Crane Circling Nest is composed of (various) slapping jurus, (various) poking jurus, (various) jumping jurus, (various) sweeping jurus and (various) kicking jurus. ...

I hope this makes it clear.

Warm regards,
KC

[Kareema]

Salaams to Everyone,

Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with us Pak Kiai. I hope others here appreciate as well an authentic "Yogyan-ese" going so far out of his way to educate us. :)

Brother Bela Diri, I was looking at your profile, and I notice that you practice a system called Harimau Palero. Now I know what a Harimau is...but what is 'Palero' in this context?

Salamat,
Kareema

[bela diri]

Hi Kareema
Palero is something to do with the magic and spiritual side of the art. I will get an good explanation when at my lesson tomorrow.

[ICT]

2. Jurus is widely used in silat-speak and in silat means two things: a) the series of movements like kata in karate, and b) -to keep the karate comparisson, the break down of the movements in the kata, each single move is also a jurus, not only the whole sequence. It can be done alone or with partner(s). In the wider use of the word it can also have the meaning of direction and time.

3. Jurus-jurus is the plural of jurus. Example: Jurus Bangau Mengitari Sarang itu terangkai dari jurus-jurus kepretan, colokan, lompatan, sapuan dan tendangan : The jurus Crane Circling Nest is composed of (various) slapping jurus, (various) poking jurus, (various) jumping jurus, (various) sweeping jurus and (various) kicking jurus.

Kia,

How would you make Jurus plural to mean more than one. For example if I'm going to teach 1 form I would say Jurus but what if I was going to teach 3. Would I say Jurus-Jurus or would I say Jurus's or Juruses?

Thanks,
Eddie

[Kiai Carita]

Kia,

How would you make Jurus plural to mean more than one. For example if I'm going to teach 1 form I would say Jurus but what if I was going to teach 3. Would I say Jurus-Jurus or would I say Jurus's or Juruses?

Thanks,
Eddie

Speaking Indonesian you would say jurus-jurus for 3. Personally I think in English juruses works well meaning you adopt the silat term jurus into English and treat it as an English word. I think what has happened is that the English speaking mind, the word jurus because it ends with an s feels like it means more than one, and the singular must be juru. However juru is a different root word altogether as I explained :jurutulis=secretary, jurumasak=cook.

Again, one jurus can mean a short form with just one or a few langkah, and also it can mean a whole form like a kata, with lots of langkah. So you could say the jurus pamacan has several cool ground juruses as well as leaping juruses in it.

And if you then said that pamacan meant Father Tiger you would be making another FMM. Pamacan (from Sundanese) does not mean Pak Macan (Pak here means Mr, father) but the Sundanese Pa there more or less means 'play of the' or maybe a bit like an 'ism' idealism...so Pamacan means tiger play.

Hope this helps,
Warm regards,
KC