iam gonna teach nessie some TKD. lol

[boshi]

hi,


iam back from loch ness. i could'nt see nessie but iam sure there's something. is there anybody who belives on nessie or living dinosaurs in congo such as mokele mbembe. www.cryptozoology.com


i know this article does'nt get fit in martial arts forum but plz have a wee look at it.


hey cooler/ghostsuit plz dont delete my this article from your site . okay?



:woo:

[STASH]

Yea I belive in that stuff. When I visited the Caribean some fishermen pulled out a fish that appearently was supposed to be extinct for millions of years. I forgot the exact name but they described it as a "panzer fish" it had these huge "natural armor" plates around it. The plates appearently protect it from the extreme pressure it has to deal with. Unfortunelty when they pulled it out it died almost instantly. I think that the Loch Ness monster it most likely a large eel, they found eels there that were almost ten feet and they werent even mature yet!

[STASH]

I found it! Go to the site Boshi has, go to cryptids, then click on Lake Iliamna, scroll down to the picture...thats exactly what it looked like!

[waya]

Common conception in science is that we have discovered 2% of the life forms on this planet, so who can say fact or fiction?

Rob

[STASH]

Thats true, but also 90% of all the species that ever (ever as in since the beggining) existed on this planet are now extinct. So if we've only discovered 2% and 90% is extinct...uh, i'm not even gonna bother doing the math.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

You've also got to consider the size of Loch Ness, and the number of times its been searched or scanned, as opposed to the size of the entire planet and the number of times its entire surface has been explored simultaneously (ie, never)

[STASH]

True, I'm liking this topic even though it has nothing to do with martial arts...anyone have reason to believe in this kind of stuff? Weird sightings or experiences?

[Adam]

Might be totally beside the point, but my dad's seen both a gnome and a ghost in his time, both in Sweeden, home of gnomes.

[YODA]

I spent a day at Lock Ness recently and no - I didn't see Nessie. I did see some rather strange things though. More importantly to me from a personal viewpoint - I spent some quiet time away from the touristy bits just getting a feel for the place. My gut reaction (which I value highly) after spending that time? - I believe.

[Master J]

i believe in alot of that stuff like Nessie, Sasquatch, chupacara, mokele mbebe etc. They are real.

[Kwajman]

An alien told me that Nessies just shy.... :love:

[aml01_ph]

Some scientists believe that we kill off several species faster than nature can mutate them. Maybe humans just ahsn't got around to killing Nessie (smart boy!).

Why is this in he article section. Shouldn't this be in the off-topic area? ;)

[Kenpo Kicker]

I stopped believing it in 5th grade when I read a book that said it was some sort of sub faking it. I heard about that fish way back that they thought was extinct dunno if it was the same fish. I think there is alot of stuff in the ocean we dunno about and the jungle.

[Hannibal]

Nessie is a crock.

There is no eco-system in Loch Ness to support a predator of its alleged size. Furthermore, no two photos or sightings are ever the same thing.

Loch Ness was a glaciated valley until a few thousand years ago so that rules out the dinosaur theory.

There have been two major sweeps of the lake and not one nesie was found. There were a lot of fish, but no big animal. Anything that existed in the loch would have been detected. The glacier also carved out the lake bed smooth, so there are no caves that nessie could be hiding in .Also Loch Ness is above sea level so there is no "underground tunnel" to the sea that nessie could have got in through or the lake level would drain down. The only way it could get to the lake would be up the ricer ness, and that I suspect would hve drawn attention.

If Nessie exists there must be more than one. But no bodies have ever been found - not even a skeleton or an unidentified bone.

Loch Ness is a magical place, but all the sightings can be explained away as either hoaxes or mistaken identity. For an excellent book try "Loch Ness monster - the evidence" by Steuart Campbell

[Master J]

how often do you come across the skeleton of a whale or bear? Not often. In fact, hardly ever!

[JohnnyX]

Thats true, but also 90% of all the species that ever (ever as in since the beggining) existed on this planet are now extinct. So if we've only discovered 2% and 90% is extinct...uh, i'm not even gonna bother doing the math.

That means we've discovered 2% of 10% of all species that have ever been.

This means that we have discovered 0.2% of all species that have ever been.

Cheers. :)

[JohnnyX]

Hi,

It's obviously a haox put together by the locals many moons ago, in order to get us touristy type people to visit, spend our pennies and so boost their economy.

Ooops! What have I started.

[Hannibal]

how often do you come across the skeleton of a whale or bear? Not often. In fact, hardly ever!

True, but they do exist and have been found! And they have territories a hell of a lot bigger than Loch Ness. As a relatively self-contained eco-system. Loch Ness has nowhere for the dead Nessies to go. So where are they? And that is by no means the most convincing argument for non-existence

If something exists the more you look for it the more you see it or find evidence for it - that is simple science. With nessie the MORE you look for it the less it is seen, because when you are aware of potential mistaken ID issues (waves/logs etc) you will not see Nessie.

There are no convincing images at all, certainly no clear ones. All in all it points to no "monster" Nessie - My prime candidate would be a sturgeon instead.

[Kwajman]

Maybe its a badger in disguise...

[Tireces]

Or a snake!

[Kwajman]

Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

[Hannibal]

Or a swimming Badger with a snake balancing on its head!

[Kenpo Kicker]

Hmm how many bears and whales do we see? They also have a echo-system that works for them.

[Hannibal]

Yep - OVER A HUGE AREA.

Nessie is in a small, contained space

Sorry, it just ain't happening

[SpinStorm]

you never know, maybe nessie just was an over wieght nymphomaniac with a skin disorder and something got lost in translation :p

[JohnnyX]

Dragons, unicorns, mermaids, leprechauns, fairies, elves and NESSIE!

:)

[LeadLegger]

Who knows what is at the bottom of the ocean

[Omicron]

Anyone ever heard of the Ogopogo? It's BC's very own version of Nessie.

[Hannibal]

There is also "Champie" as well in Lake Champlain (I may have misspelled that - apologies to all US MAP'ers if I have). Nowhere does teh amount of "evidence" exist as it does in Loch Ness.

Ogopogo was rumoured to be an Anaconda if I remember rightly. Something to do with the Lake being on an Old shipping route from South America - certainly more believable than a plesiosaur in a scottish lake

[Andy Murray]

Nessie is in a small, contained space



Loch Ness ain't no Duck Pond mate! ;)

[Hannibal]

LOL! true, but it isn't exactly the pacific ocean either!

Certainly it should be easy to find evidence of any large predator or colony of such. Evidence to date - zippo!

At least Bigfoot has hundreds of miles to hide in.

[eckythump]

"Evidence to date - zippo!"
What !! are you calling Saint Columba a liar ? :eek:
tut tut !!

"Evidence to date - zippo!"
sorry maybe I misunderstood ... your saying they have found Nessie's lighter?

[Hannibal]

lol!! :D

[Andy Murray]

LOL! true, but it isn't exactly the pacific ocean either!

Certainly it should be easy to find evidence of any large predator or colony of such. Evidence to date - zippo!

At least Bigfoot has hundreds of miles to hide in.

Bigfoots a confessed hoax. The people who did it were on TV.

[Hannibal]

Do you mean the Patterson footage (the famous "black Bigfoot" film). I was not aware of their full confession, but it was written off as a hoax some years ago - Chris Packham did quite a good expose on "X Creatures". Bigfoot has as much, if not more, documentary evidnece than Nessie - fooprints/casts, photos and even a supposed mating call. It still does not add up to conclusive proof, but the vast geographical area around the plethora of Bigfoot sightings makes a more believable case for not being found than Nessie.

Cryptzoology used to be a pet hobby of mine (sad bugger that I am...)

[Infesticon #1]

the fish could have been a coelacanth http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/animals1/images/coelacanth.jpg

as for nessie, who knows?

science says no, but science isn't always right y'know.

[Kwajman]

I think Nessie eats ninja's...

[#1 Stutta]

I believe there are dinosaurs still here. And Nessie, too.

[Poop-Loops]

Do you mean the Patterson footage (the famous "black Bigfoot" film). I was not aware of their full confession, but it was written off as a hoax some years ago - Chris Packham did quite a good expose on "X Creatures". Bigfoot has as much, if not more, documentary evidnece than Nessie - fooprints/casts, photos and even a supposed mating call. It still does not add up to conclusive proof, but the vast geographical area around the plethora of Bigfoot sightings makes a more believable case for not being found than Nessie.

Cryptzoology used to be a pet hobby of mine (sad bugger that I am...)

And besides that, stories of bigfoot-like creatures in different cultures of the world.

I saw another special on bigfoot on Discovery channel a while ago. They had 2 tapes. One tape showed that when bigfoot walked, he moved his legs "circularly", hard to explain, but they say it would explain a lot about the way we move now. Another tape showed him suddenly growing 8 inches (they found a way to measure how big he is) in the last 3/4ths second. They examined the "mating call", and said it seems like it's from an ape-like creature (might be human, though), and the cast of the footprints, and they said they are most likely not a hoax.

Bigfoot has a TON of space to hide in. Most of it people haven't explored. It's much more believable than a thing hiding in a lake.

PL

[Hannibal]

The walking motion described was from the Patterson film. I saw an anthropologist demnstrate what he believd to be the way the Bigfoot walked. It was interesting, but he had a lot to prove because he authenticated the footage. True it is not exactly a normal walk, but then if I was in a big rubber monkey suit I would probably walk funny too!

I believe that the special effects man behind the original "Planet of the Apes" film was supposed to have had a hand in making it.

[saikyou]

its a hoax. nessie is just a toy submarine. read this:
http://www.ultranet.ca/bcscc/Nessie.htm

[Deep6]

I saw a troll in sequined Elvis type jump suit, once. He was bass fishing on the shore of Lake Jocassee. Didn't catch anything though.