Techniques from a Chair

[humble student]

I am soliciting ideas for fighting from chair and wheel chair. Any experiences or ideas/ websites would be appreciated. Right now I have punching and throwing, for wheel chair, plus low kicks from sitting postion for people who can kick.

Thanks
John Runer
Defense Abled instructor

[Topher]

Do you teach a generalized martial art or is your previous training/styles heavly influence your current teaching.

Off the top of my head Wing Chun might work seeing as it focus is hand based techniques. Although i haven't done any yet, you might want to look into weapons training. The FMA such as Kali/Eskrima are aparantly very good. Plus, hitting someone with a stick - hard! - around the legs can easily be done from a wheel chair :D

[humble student]

I teach elcectic martial arts "what ever works for a student', with Shorin-Ryu Karate becoming my base.

Thanks
john Runer

[johndoch]

Nunchuks or knives would work. Probably get you thrown in jail though ;)

[savateuse]

I'm just back from the European Savate Championships where (before the finals) they had a display of what (I think) the french call "handisports". Two sports for wheelchair users were demonstrated. The first was boxing, and the second was La Canne. The La Canne demo was very good - one guy was a wheelchair user, one not, and both were very skillful with the cane.

[Davey Bones]

I am soliciting ideas for fighting from chair and wheel chair. Any experiences or ideas/ websites would be appreciated. Right now I have punching and throwing, for wheel chair, plus low kicks from sitting postion for people who can kick.

Thanks
John Runer
Defense Abled instructor

One of the students at the Morgantown school is in a Wheelchair, and he learned everything from day one... techniques, movement, weapons, grappling. And he now has a black sash.

We're a Chinese style, btw, with elements of Chin Na, Bagua, Long Fist, 5 Animals, Shuai Jiao.

[Thomas]

Here's a neat site to check out:
www.defenseability.com

Their video library
www.defenseability.com/video.htm

And a specific set of videos
www.defenseability.com/IDSAVS1.htm

Might be worth the time to contact them.... I don't know them personally but they are an affilliate of the ICHF (Combat Hapkido) with which I have had stellar success in their programs and support.

[humble student]

Thanks!!! I will check out the sites, I am looking for a good la canne book. I pesonally love cane (Hapkido) techniques as I use one most of the time bad right knee and nerve problems in spinal cord also effect both legs. I teach a mix of aiki type jujitsu, judo, kungfu and currently have become sponsored and am learing matsubuayashi shorin ryu karate. (Through the American Shorin ryu karate Association.

John runer

[savateuse]

...I am looking for a good la canne book. I pesonally love cane (Hapkido) techniques as I use one most of the time...

I'll ask around for the name of a good la canne book... Have you trained in kali at all? Kali has a lot of stick work, as well as empty-hand and dagger.

[Thomas]

Take a look at http://www.canemasters.com/
-I have some of the videos and really like them, they cover exercise, defenses, strikes, etc. I have attended seminars with Canemaster Shuey and he is pretty awesome... his material is really good. I would recommend his videos and in-person seminars.

Also, www.ichf.com has a video library and couple of cane tapes. The tapes are very good, but more "to the point" than the canemasters in my opinion. The ICHF stuff is more of an add-on to your curriculum and the canemasters is a whole art.

I recommend both, especially canemasters' canes.

[SickDevildog]

I am soliciting ideas for fighting from chair and wheel chair. Any experiences or ideas/ websites would be appreciated. Right now I have punching and throwing, for wheel chair, plus low kicks from sitting postion for people who can kick.

Thanks
John Runer
Defense Abled instructor

Tai Chi in a chair is a good book that I gave my pops to read, he's disabled.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193141260X/102-4938184-0708162?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance

[macker]

At the Kenshiro Abbe celebrations at Crystal Palace my instructor Sensei Derek Eastman performed some Aikido techniques from a chair. I have also seen these demonstrated at our dojo. Here is alink to the schools website where you may find an email link.
http://www.ellisaikido.org/

[TheCount]

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[batfink]

I think this applies to a lot of us - how many road rage incidents do you hear about where the victim is sat in their car? The best technique would be to drive off :) but everywhere is a traffic jam these days, I would be interested in self-defense when sat in the driving seat, belt on, idiot at the window. I don't like to just put the window up & lock the doors, it sends victim signals and the bully mentality kicks in, followed by them damaging the car or possibly even putting the window through. The best general advice I have heard on this is to be so proficient with your blocks/parries/guard that you can prevent taking hits even in that confined space. Practice, practice, practice, and go for the family allowance...

[Paul Genge]

working from a chair clip (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/working from a chair 1.WMV)

Promotional video which includes work in and around vehicles (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/camp.wmv)

Article about the first UK systema residential camp that includes video of defence in and around vehicles (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/page63.html)

I will be putting up a video clip of a Spetsnaz porffessional demonstrating this work soon. I will post it here once it is edited.

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk)

[Jekyll]

I am soliciting ideas for fighting from chair and wheel chair. Any experiences or ideas/ websites would be appreciated. Right now I have punching and throwing, for wheel chair, plus low kicks from sitting postion for people who can kick.

Thanks
John Runer
Defense Abled instructor
The problem is that besides allowing you to move freely, for almost all techniques the legs do most of the work.
There's absolutely no way someone stuck in a chair can take anyone on at free range striking. They can circle you and/or hit you at will. For someone with great upper body strength, I'd say maybe they can grab an arm to pull the head down so they can hold that with one arm and punch with the other.
For anyone else concerned with realistic defence they should proberbly get some kind of taser and hide it down the side of their chair. You could do drills to mimic drawing it and using it when someone grabs you.
There's no easy answer to this, if you don't have working legs you're screwed in a fight.

[Davey Bones]

There's no easy answer to this, if you don't have working legs you're screwed in a fight.

I'd have to say I disagree with this. At a disadvantage, yes. Screwed, no. And I know a black sash and an instructor who would agree with me ;)

[Topher]

working from a chair clip (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/working from a chair 1.WMV)

Promotional video which includes work in and around vehicles (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/camp.wmv)

Article about the first UK systema residential camp that includes video of defence in and around vehicles (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk/page63.html)

I will be putting up a video clip of a Spetsnaz porffessional demonstrating this work soon. I will post it here once it is edited.

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk)

Intresting videos. Although i noticed the attacks and techniques were very placid. No aggression/aliveness what so ever. Maybe there is a reason for it though?

[Paul Genge]

There is a systema club in London. Fell free to pop along and offer as much aliveness as you want. If you need the address let me know.

Paul Genge

[johndoch]

I'd have to say I disagree with this. At a disadvantage, yes. Screwed, no. And I know a black sash and an instructor who would agree with me ;)

Being in a chair is a major disadvantage almost to the point off being screwed.

What are peoples thoughts on modifying a wheelchair or such that you could use it as a weapon ie quick detachable footplates that could be used as a kosh or similar (honest officer I never knew that part could come off the chair, until it came off when I was being attacked).

IMO the only equaliser for someone in a chair is a weapon in 99% of the time

[Jekyll]

I'd have to say I disagree with this. At a disadvantage, yes. Screwed, no. And I know a black sash and an instructor who would agree with me ;)
What's that worth in new money?

Sit crosslegged on a chair in front of a heavy bag, to prevent yourself generating power with your legs. Hit it. You won't be able to to hit with anywhere near the usual amount of power and you'll have to work hard not to fall over.
Now get someone to swing the bag for you and try and hit it while your sitting there.
Now imagine that it was a person attacking you.

See? You'd be screwed. :cool:

[Paul Genge]

You have to remember that defending yourself is not a boxing competition. Being injured or in a chair is a distinct disadvantage, but not unassailable. Afterall an attacker is likely to be over confident when faced with a person in a wheel chair.

Having a knife or other weapon as an equalizer would be nice, but no legal in the UK.

Like all situations the unexpected can happen and the obviously weak find reserves they did not realise they have. In others they are over powered and destroyed, but saying they are incapable of something and telling them not to bother is no help to no one.

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk)

[batfink]

Good videos from you Paul. I'm not too fussed about the spirit in the clips as we can add that later, I'm on the lookout for the techniques. Unfortunately the wrist locks and pressure points etc for this kind of thing are a bit subtle for videos like this. Good ideas though, I think I'll suggest we do some work like this in class.

PS - I see you're in Manchester, is that bald guy in the chair video Danny Ram? Looks like him...

[Topher]

There is a systema club in London. Fell free to pop along and offer as much aliveness as you want. If you need the address let me know.

Paul Genge

I'm not saying you dont train alive, i just didn;t see any in thoes videos.

:)

[Topher]

If you sitting in a chair.... use it. Smash it around someones head if needed! ;) :D

[Blake_AE]

I'd have to agree with non-lethal weapons to extend the range. Without the quick movements provided by legs to close range or escape, increasing one's range of attack seems like a good thing. Stick fighting a la dog brothers, krabi krabong, or an FMA would probably be beneficial. As well you could conceal a pair of short sticks on a chair pretty easily.

I'm not sure on the law but I'm thinking knocking out or injuring an attacker with a stick is going to sit with judge/jury a lot easier than a knife wound or kill. I like the cane idea but wtf is someone in a wheelchair doing with a cane and where would it be kept? I guess it does depend on the level of disability and a cane by nature is not considered a weapon so no need to conceal one.

For my brother however, there is no way he could use a cane, or carry one very well on his power chair. A shorter stick with a little weight to it could fit in a number of places and be used much more efficiently. It all depends on the individual though, of course.

Also pure upper body (and grip) strength, and even mass to some extent would be very important. I know a lot of big guys that I wouldn't want to try to take, even with them sitting in a chair because of their strength. If they ever got a hold of me, they could tear my arms off.

Oh something else - chair modification for more stability would also be beneficial. If the large rear wheels were smaller and moved further back, the chair would be more difficult to tip, at least backwards. But then it would also be less maneuverable... hmmm. Still, I'm sure there would be some chair mods that would help. Like Homer said... use it if you got it.

Hand-to-hand would be a worst case scenario imho. Blocking or parrying is good but again without the range or movement a pair of legs can offer, the disadvantage would be very hard to overcome.

[Taff]

A few years ago I did chi sao (wing chun training exercise) with someone in a wheelchair. It seemed to work pretty well considering his situation. Obviously, no footwork, but he was able to shift around in his chair to illicit the turning in wing chun.
In terms of practical defence, I'm not sure it would be worthwhile, as I was sitting in a chair at the same height as him, and in reality most attacks would come from a higher angle (I don't know if wing chun angles would be effective if I were a standing attacker, though I've never tried). It would definitely help contact sensitivity though.

[humble student]

Thanks for the replies, however evading and letting your weel chair roll you away is good also breaking ankle with chair and pinning a foot or feet in oder to bring them down with nerve strikes. Have you ever been pinned to the ground and had mace emptiied into face after a wheel chair fighter used your groin for a punching bag. It's been done you know!!! The only way you are "screwed" is if you give up. I have seen documentaries were abled martial artit's could not get with in of grabbing rang of a parapalegic. Attitiude wins over shear brute force, not always but the majority of the time. Be prepared and don't present youself as a victim.

john Runer
Defense Abled instructor

sorry I hve not respondend much I am currently seeking grants.

[Thomas]

Thanks for the replies, however evading and letting your weel chair roll you away is good also breaking ankle with chair and pinning a foot or feet in oder to bring them down with nerve strikes. Have you ever been pinned to the ground and had mace emptiied into face after a wheel chair fighter used your groin for a punching bag. It's been done you know!!! The only way you are "screwed" is if you give up. I have seen documentaries were abled martial artit's could not get with in of grabbing rang of a parapalegic. Attitiude wins over shear brute force, not always but the majority of the time. Be prepared and don't present youself as a victim.

john Runer
Defense Abled instructor

sorry I hve not respondend much I am currently seeking grants.(bold face added - Thomas)

Awesome post!!!! Especially the bold-face part!

[savateuse]

The only way you are "screwed" is if you give up. I have seen documentaries were abled martial artit's could not get with in of grabbing rang of a parapalegic. Attitiude wins over shear brute force, not always but the majority of the time.

A few years ago, we were teaching a self defence session at a local school. One girl was in a wheelchair - she had a progressive disease, gradually losing muscle strength, and operated the chair with a single 'thumb-switch'. Obviously, she couldn't use the skills we were teaching to most of the group, but she had thought about self defence. Her preferred method was to spin the chair (using the thumb-switch) to crack an attackers ankles with the 10 pound battery on the back of the chair! She hadn't given up!
:cool:

[Blake_AE]

I agree with these last posts 110%. The batteries in my brothers chair weigh more than 10 lbs each, as well the foot rests are pretty thin and hard, could do some damage as the chair can generate some pretty good torque.

Can of mace or pepperspray in a chair pocket is a simple one I hadn't even thought of. Quick spray in the face and then a 200lb chair smashing shins or rolling over ankles would be quite effective.

I know my brother's chair also has a speed or power dial on the control. Its very difficult to control speed efficiently with just the control stick. It is closer to an on/off switch with steering. However the speed dial allows control of how much power gets to the wheels for driving inside or outside. I think having the ability to crank the chair quickly up to full speed for a getaway would help as well. Anyone without a power chair - well were back to upper body conditioning. Think wheelchair athletes who do sprints - those dudes can move!! :-)

[Blake_AE]

There is also the guys who play wheelchair rugby. There was a movie recently about it,a documentary called Murderball that was getting good reviews.

Those chairs I think are reinforced and much more stable and the guys who play are tough as nails. Anyone interested in chair self-defense might do well to check out the game and their training as well.

http://www.abwheelchairsport.ca/images/scrapbook/rugby/images/6_jpg.jpg

Hell same goes for rugby and full able-bodied people. Rugby players are just tough (maybe not all there upstairs though if you know what I mean!) ;-)

[Davey Bones]

Being in a chair is a major disadvantage almost to the point off being screwed.

IMO the only equaliser for someone in a chair is a weapon in 99% of the time

Wrong. That's simply perpetuating the myth of the helpless cripples, to which I take offense. If you've never trainied with a differently abled person, you have no clue what they are capable of.


What's that worth in new money?

Sit crosslegged on a chair in front of a heavy bag, to prevent yourself generating power with your legs. Hit it. You won't be able to to hit with anywhere near the usual amount of power and you'll have to work hard not to fall over.
Now get someone to swing the bag for you and try and hit it while your sitting there.
Now imagine that it was a person attacking you.

See? You'd be screwed. :cool:

Really? I'll have to introduce you to my classmate. And a few handicapped powerlifters I know. You have no clue what these people are capable of, as usual another keyboard warrior shooting off his mouth.

He can strike, grapple, and use weapons. He earned his black sash. And if all you can see is a cripple, then I think you need to train with someone in a wheelchair and see what they're capable of. Until then, I really don't see any of your contributions as valid.

[Jekyll]

Really? I'll have to introduce you to my classmate. And a few handicapped powerlifters I know. You have no clue what these people are capable of, as usual another keyboard warrior shooting off his mouth.

He can strike, grapple, and use weapons. He earned his black sash. And if all you can see is a cripple, then I think you need to train with someone in a wheelchair and see what they're capable of. Until then, I really don't see any of your contributions as valid.
I'm not trying to be funny but does a powerlifter in a wheelchair just do the bench press?

I think I covered this well in my first post. If you have exceptional upper body strength you can drag someone down and pound them in the face. In all other respects, someone in a wheelchairs' striking game is profoundly handicapped. If you want to argue the point, feel free to point to any wheelchair bound boxers or kickboxers that still compete.

What grapling does he do? Off the top of my head, I can not think of any judo throws or no jacket throws that would work from a wheelchair, similairly on the ground he would be unable to control people from guard or base up to pass guard, unless he had working 'stumps', for lack of a more PC phrase.

Incidentally, I have seen footage of someone like that at a bjj competition and it was awesome to watch, although of course, the other guy had to start from his knees.

Belive it or not I do think of the wheelchair bound as being human beings. However I think of them as being human beings without effectively functioning legs. To pretend that this doesn't pose serious problems for them, when practicing a whole body discipline such as martial arts is insulting to their intellegence and shows ignorance of the problems they have to face in daily life.

[Davey Bones]

I'm not trying to be funny but does a powerlifter in a wheelchair just do the bench press?

He got strapped to the bench. Pretty simple solution. :) And he was hella strong...

I think I covered this well in my first post. If you have exceptional upper body strength you can drag someone down and pound them in the face. In all other respects, someone in a wheelchairs' striking game is profoundly handicapped. If you want to argue the point, feel free to point to any wheelchair bound boxers or kickboxers that still compete.

There is a difference between saying "they are at a disadvantage". Your exact words were "they're screwed", and I take umbrage at that.

What grapling does he do? Off the top of my head, I can not think of any judo throws or no jacket throws that would work from a wheelchair, similairly on the ground he would be unable to control people from guard or base up to pass guard, unless he had working 'stumps', for lack of a more PC phrase.

We do Chin Na, jointlocks, and groundwork. Full groundwork. When he gets grabbed from behind, he can execute throws. When he is on the ground, he can grapple. Yes, the techniques are modified (d'uh), but he was required to complete as much of the curriculum as possible. And he is quite good.

Incidentally, I have seen footage of someone like that at a bjj competition and it was awesome to watch, although of course, the other guy had to start from his knees.

And that's fine. *shrug* But they're not helpless.

Belive it or not I do think of the wheelchair bound as being human beings. However I think of them as being human beings without effectively functioning legs. To pretend that this doesn't pose serious problems for them, when practicing a whole body discipline such as martial arts is insulting to their intellegence and shows ignorance of the problems they have to face in daily life.

My issues are several with this statement:

1. Not all of them have useless legs, some of them just don't work "normally".
2. While I recognize that this poses a problem, to just make statements like "they're screwed" doesn't really say to me that you respect or understand the work they do. Perhaps we do agree, but your initial word choice sucked, Jekyll.

[Jekyll]

He got strapped to the bench. Pretty simple solution. And he was hella strong...
Because I'm currious about everything, do you know what other exercises he did? Weighted chinups and dips or work on the gymnastic rings? Deadlift, Squat and bench press is generally considered a fairly good whole body workout, but I wouldn't say just bench pressing is sufficent for the upper body.

1. Not all of them have useless legs, some of them just don't work "normally".

They don't function effectively by normal standards, hence the wheelchair. I think this was a fair statement.

2. While I recognize that this poses a problem, to just make statements like "they're screwed" doesn't really say to me that you respect or understand the work they do. Perhaps we do agree, but your initial word choice sucked, Jekyll.
Maybe. When someone good gets me in back mount and starts working for a choke, I say I'm screwed. It doesn't mean I won't try and fight my way out with some sucess. I really wasn't advocating that they should just lie on the ground and wait for someone to run them over with their own chair.

I think it's fair to say that Jo Average would be screwed in a fight against a Andrei Arlovski and I do feel that the disadvantages an average wheelchair user would face against Jo Average in a fight would be similar in scale.

Just as a blackbelt wouldn't prevent Jo from recieving a beating from Arlovski. A blackbelt in a wheelchair would face similar problems against Jo. Their priorities have to lie in taking Jo out before he realises there is a fight and they have to do so with weaker strikes and much less grappling and mobility than is avalable to the rest of us.

I still say they'd be screwed in a striking match up.

[Kata-Kid]

i've got a couple of questions. I whouldn't consider myself "screwed" if i got jumped at present (though i'm in a wheelie now), i'll simply have to adjust my 'arsenal' a bit to adapt to my new fighting-position. I might be at a slight disadvantage, but i think it got mentioned earlier, there are a lot of jointlocks and throwing-techniques that are still easy to perform while in a chair.

[iHeretic]

The only way you are "screwed" is if you give up.

This is probably the single best line in this thread. ;)

[humble student]

Thank you Heretic!! Currently a lot of people are less than supportive of my efforts to start a disabled martial arts class. But giving up is not an option! I also think a Wheel Chair is an advantage, like the surprise you have when a wheel chair fighter knows how to fight back. Most thugs would not expect a fight.

John Runer

[Davey Bones]

Thank you Heretic!! Currently a lot of people are less than supportive of my efforts to start a disabled martial arts class. But giving up is not an option! I also think a Wheel Chair is an advantage, like the surprise you have when a wheel chair fighter knows how to fight back. Most thugs would not expect a fight.

John Runer

I think you should. It takes hard work and dedication, but why on Earth would people not support these efforts?!?

[iHeretic]

A whole class of DMA sounds like a lot of hard work... Good luck!

[iHeretic]

Just been mulling this topic over for the last couple of days and particularly the weapons syllabus and assertions that weapons are an equaliser for a wheelchair enabled martial artist. I wouldn't necessarily agree and here's why.

If the person uses a manual wheelchair then guess what needs to be free in order to move around? That's right... hands. What isn't free if a weapon is being held? That's right... hands! If a weapon is held even in one hand then the wheelchair user is impeded for the purposes of turning, entering, backing away or blending with an incoming attack. Additionally the power that can be generated by turning the chair is lost...

The person essentially can become a static weapons platform!

It is possible to use certain weapons and still maintain hands-on control of the chair but a great deal of agility can be lost and this can be the difference between coming out on top and coming out beaten and bloodied.

Any weapons syllabus needs to take into account the relative ability of each wheelchair user to maneuvre their chair hands-free or with minimal contact, and should also take into account the benefits of any given wheelchair in an offensive capacity, as a weapon itself!

Ben

[Jekyll]

At the same time, if unarmed you drop your hands from in front of your face to move the chair, you're asking to be punched.

[BentMonk]

Unless the chair is the weapon, the majority of an armed or unarmed confrontation will take place while the chair is stopped. Even using the chair to attack leaves the defender vulnerable because their hands are propelling the chair. Also it is very easy to side step a moving wheelchair. Even if the defender uses an electric chair only one arm is available for defense. With a few exceptions wheelchairs manual or electric are easily toppled, leaving the defender on the ground. Therefore it is not a question of which technique or weapon. It is a question of practicality. The most vulnerable area of a defender in a wheelchair is their back. It is nearly impossible to effectively defend. With all of these variables working against a defender in a wheelchair, common sense must be the primary defense technique. Simply put avoid places, people, and situations that would put you at risk. Pay close attention to the world around you and the people in it. Hopefully you will avoid trouble, or at least see it coming and be able to escape before it gets to you. If robbery is an attackers sole motive, give them what they want. Money and things can be replaced, you cannot be. If an attackers motives are sicker than robbery, then the defender gains a slight advantage. In order for an attacker to touch the defender or remove them from their wheelchair, they must get very close to the defender. Depending on the defender and their wheelchair, there may be seatbelts or other aparatus that must be disengaged. The defenders advantage increases. How the defender capitalizes on these advantages depends upon their physical ability. Eye gouges, throat strikes, small joint breaks and locks can be effective without a great deal of strength if taught and applied correctly. The goal of the defender must be to end the confrontation as quickly and effectively as possible. The diversity among defenders in wheelchairs requires their techniques and training to be highly personalized. Once the defender knows which techniques will work most effectively for them, their focus must turn to conditioning so that they are strong enough to execute the techniques properly, and drilling the techniques until they are reflexive. IMO any type of weapon carried by a defender in a wheelchair is potentially a weapon for their attacker. I feel it is better to hone the skills and tools that will always be with you. If possible, the defender should also train for the eventuallity of fighting outside their wheelchair. Peace and happy training. :)

[Bluesash]

The Cane is a very cool way to hook someone up, I remember training with Marshal Ho`o with the cane, that he saw me with once in a seminar in Mexico, he wasnt in a wheel chair but this will work for you guys!

[humble student]

I use hapkido and other cane techniques. Also enviromental awareness, the buddy system and fighting dirty are all part of my curriculum. When you fight fight to win, escape never surrender! Is a fight from a wheelchair fair ofcourse not. However if you live in a bad neigborhood and can't afford to move because you are on a fixed income, a low cost or even free subsidized selfdefense course may even the odds atleast a little. Whats better being prepared or being a victim. Common sense has always been part of my training in Jujitsu. Don't start fights, don't show off your skills, and don't go into bad areas unless it can't be avoided. Common sense and courtesy are always the best protection.

John Runer

[Bluesash]

The Wing Chun system might have some good tec`s for sit down training, its an up close and in yer face type training, With Respect

[humble student]

I use wing chun/ Jeet kune do and chin na. Always looking for good books and dvds on chin na and presurre point fighting. I like the deflection and trapping techniques of chin na. I use DR Yang's boooks for chin na.

[tokugawa]

some links with martial arts in whellchair

http://www.rollstuhl-karate.de/
http://www.jks.jp/t-english/data-002.htm
http://www.jks.jp/t-english/data-001.htm
http://inosanto.com/article_info.php?articles_id=4
http://www.geocities.com/ijkaireland/iwkf/
http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~jks-gifu/02feb_e.htm
http://www.practical-martial-arts.co.uk/practical_martial_arts/wd_teaching_disabled.html
http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=229
http://www.mdausa.org/publications/Quest/q61surprise.html
http://www.twt.org.uk/
http://canparaplegic.org/national/level2.tpl?var1=story&var2=20040305123315