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hottdogg
21-Sep-2005, 02:38 PM
Is it possible to dislocate opponent's shoulder while in real fight?
How to do it?
Is there any pre-emptive action so shoulder dislocating would be done more easily?
shed some light to me 'bout shoulder dislocating.. :)
A link to any other similiar thread would be appreciated too. Or to web...
with pictures guide, that would be more appreciated.


Thx.
Jesh
22-Sep-2005, 12:41 AM
Well, I think it's quite possible...

I googled for it and came up with this pic, if you would finish the technique it would probably pop...

http://lhembel.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6_1024.ts1104521750812.jpg
NeonxBurst
22-Sep-2005, 01:02 AM
Just about any Jiu Jitsu arm crank will dislocate a shoulder, it isn't too hard, and if you're like me, you can dislocate your own shoulder whenever you want(useless little ability)
Jesh
22-Sep-2005, 01:11 AM
Hmmm... so you can dislocate your own shoulder to escape a lock ???
Sounds like a great ability... :D
NeonxBurst
22-Sep-2005, 02:04 AM
Yeah, it's gotten to the point that it doesn't hurt to do it anymore. It's pretty nice, great wild card for a match. My left arm isn't quite as forgiving when I dislocate it, but it is kinda nice.
Falcore
22-Sep-2005, 06:47 AM
You are aware that that's a bad thing, right?
slipthejab
22-Sep-2005, 06:55 AM
Sounds like you should look for a dojo or gym to train at. Just learning how to dislocate a shoulder is practically useless by itself.
Freeform
22-Sep-2005, 09:06 AM
Yeah, it's gotten to the point that it doesn't hurt to do it anymore. It's pretty nice, great wild card for a match. My left arm isn't quite as forgiving when I dislocate it, but it is kinda nice.

You shouldn't do this as:

1) You're going to destroy the stability of the joint, which will lead to pain and instablility in lifting above the horizontal plain.

2) You run the chance of pinching soft tissue in the shoulder joint when you re-locate it, which is incredibly painful and may require emergancy surgery to fix.

3) If you can 'dislocate at will' which I actually doubt, it shouldn't matter with the majority of joint locks. If it's a straight arm-bar, the pivot motion on you opponents pelvis will mean that he's now trying to lift up the weight of your body with the soft tissue around the joint. If it's a backhammer/oma plata again the soft tissue will be damaged.

Trust me on this, I'm becoming a reluctant expert on joint injuries :(
Jesh
22-Sep-2005, 12:23 PM
Trust me on this, I'm becoming a reluctant expert on joint injuries :(

That actually doesn't sound really good...
Freeform
23-Sep-2005, 07:48 AM
That actually doesn't sound really good...

It doesn't feel really good either :(
redsandpalm
23-Sep-2005, 08:53 AM
When I found out I had hypermobile joints I thought 'great!'. As long as I'm flexible I'm impervious to joint locking! However it is only a bad thing - if the joint surflexes or dislocates then any twisting, supporting of your weight on soft tissue (as Freeform said), or even a good tug (or basically any kind of manipulation once the joint isn't set right) will probably lead to soft tissue tearing/damage. Therefore I unfortunately have to be very careful about my flexibility training to avoid having the ability to dislocate at will :) .
hottdogg
25-Sep-2005, 10:33 AM
Because i dont train in jiujitsu,That's why I asked. Could you guys give me example shoulder dislocating technique(s) that can be applied in real self defense?

Thx
Judderman
26-Sep-2005, 07:20 AM
Do you mean where you dislocate your assailents shoulder or your own? Please clarify, thanks.
soul-survivor
05-Oct-2005, 01:17 PM
Sounds like a great ability... :D

sounds like a dissability!
Jesh
05-Oct-2005, 06:47 PM
sounds like a dissability!

Indeed it does... :eek: