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deathbloom
10-Sep-2005, 09:35 AM
I have a question about roundhouse kicks. When kicking, should I bring my knee past my target to push it in further or should I leave it behind for more of a snappy kick?. I would ask at training but our gym's being renovated and won't be finished for two weeks.

|MT|omar
10-Sep-2005, 09:39 AM
here is an awesome post reguarding that question which you'll find very useful

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22260

thanks to Ikken for that by the way

Tetsujin
13-Sep-2005, 09:29 AM
my only advice is snap kick....

jabcrosshook
13-Sep-2005, 12:24 PM
... Depends what you're doing. Semi contact doesn't really require some belting kick with all your power through it. On the flip side, you don't seem to see many snap kicks in Muay Thai. I wounder why :rolleyes:

jabcrosshook
13-Sep-2005, 12:25 PM
here is an awesome post reguarding that question which you'll find very useful

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22260

thanks to Ikken for that by the way

erm... why?

Ikken Hisatsu
13-Sep-2005, 12:32 PM
cos i wrote it i guess?

depends on the rules for the match, if its semi or light then snappy kicks will be faster and score just as much. for a full contact bout you want to put the hurt on so snappy kicks are not going to be as good

|MT|omar
13-Sep-2005, 12:33 PM
erm... why?
Yeah coz Ikken wrote it

jabcrosshook
13-Sep-2005, 08:52 PM
Yeah coz Ikken wrote it

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!

I quoted the wrong post :bang:

Meant to put Tetsujin's post in. Sorry Ikks :o

Ikken Hisatsu
13-Sep-2005, 09:07 PM
my only advice is snap kick....

out of interest though, why? this is the kickboxing forum and we dont take kindly to your kind of folk!

*chews tobacco and spits into a bucket*

jabcrosshook
13-Sep-2005, 09:18 PM
out of interest though, why? this is the kickboxing forum and we dont take kindly to your kind of folk!

*chews tobacco and spits into a bucket*

I beat you to that question - just quoted the wrong thing :p

But yeah - snappy things aren't a great deal of use, power wise.

johndoch
15-Sep-2005, 01:51 PM
But yeah - snappy things aren't a great deal of use, power wise.

Glaube Feitosa at K1 earlier this year used his crappy snap kicks to get to the final and beat Gary Goodridge at Battle at Bellagio IV ;)

Ikken Hisatsu
15-Sep-2005, 02:09 PM
yeah. they werent snap kicks though. brazilian kick!= snap kick.

johndoch
15-Sep-2005, 02:21 PM
So a snap kick = a brazillian kick that clears that up then :)

Coming from a Kyushinkai(sp) background I thought he did well in that tourney as a lot of his kicks seemed to be more from a karate foundation. But I suppose the fact that most fighters do tend to stick with the tradition thai round kicks rather than the snappy (chambered) kicks is testament to the fact that in KB the thai kick is more effective for more people. Thats not to say chambered kicks are weak when being applied by someone who can throw them right.

ps I hate the term "snappy" as it reminds me of the kind of pit-a-pat points sparring I used to do years ago :(

Ikken Hisatsu
15-Sep-2005, 08:55 PM
just so you know, != means does not equal. Ive always considered "snappy" kicks to be ones that you pull back as soon as you make contact- Glaube definitely doesnt do that with his kicks.

There have actually been a lot of successful karate fighters in k-1. Glaube Feitosa, Andy Hug (who won the k-1) Francisco Filho, Sam Greco, and those are just the guys off the top of my head. thers also Kazuya and Masato in k-1 max who both come from seido backgrounds.

jabcrosshook
15-Sep-2005, 10:40 PM
Feitosa DOESN'T use snappy kicks against Goodridge. Just watched the fight again to make sure!!!

johndoch
16-Sep-2005, 09:42 AM
I guess Iam misinterpreting the term snappy kick as its seems that people are not distinguishing the difference between a snappy kick and a chambered kick.

I would agree that in a bout you would nt use snappy kicks to ko someone but they have their place in a training regime. Its just like punching the focus mitts, you dont always hit hard as you can as there are times when the focus is in form rather than power; its the same with kicks.

!= != = Learn something new everyday cheers Ikken :)