Two questions

[Stuart H]

1. If you have read the Bible, what is your opinion of Jesus the man?
2. What is your opinion on Christians?

Keep it brief.

[munkiejunkie]

I haven't read much, but I think that Jesus was wise, and had a lot of good teachings to give, and that christians make excellent friends, I just don't like extremely agressive evangelicalism. By the way, I'm a buddhist. Welsh, I know your oppinions, and you know mine, so please don't turn this thread into a flame war.

[Sheyja]

Jesus was cool, a normal man like you are I who showed what any of us can achieve if we fulfill our potential.

Christians in my opinion, if you are to believe in him, misunderstood Jesus.

[Peace Frog]

Though technically Christian because of my belief that Jesus was our savior who died for our sins and was the son of god, i disagree with many Christian teachings. And I especially disagree with the seperation of the faith, Catholic, Protestant, ect. I try to take the best of many religions and philosophies and ball 'em into a package that works for me. And for JC, what is their to say? He's THE man.

[Jesh]

Although I'm a protestant (and my grandparents would kill me if I said this...), I see Jesus as just another prophet. The man had a good message.

As for Christians, the majority of them are ok... it's the zealots that worry me. But you have those in any religion.

[wrydolphin]

1. Like many here, I think the teachings of Jesus are quite good. If you followed what is written instead of what people tell you is written, you'd be a very good person indeed.
2. To steal from my father (who, as the nature of these things go, probably stole it from someone else), I have no problems with Jesus, its his fan club I don't like.

[Kwajman]

Keep it brief??? Man, thats tough considering your questions.

[Vanir]

1. Obviously a mythological figure designed to represent human emotions.
2. Hitler was a Christian.

[Lefty]

2. To steal from my father (who, as the nature of these things go, probably stole it from someone else), I have no problems with Jesus, its his fan club I don't like.
I like that. Can I borrow it?
:D

Jesus is just all right with me. I think too many people do things in his name that would really piss him off.

[Stuart H]

1. Obviously a mythological figure designed to represent human emotions.
2. Hitler was a Christian.

If you think so.

Hitler only called himself a Christian at the beginning of the life of the Nazi party to gain support from the Church. Back then they were giving the appearance of a party who were interested in repairing the German economy.

And then he made his own church, substituting the swastika and Mein Kampf for the cross and the Bible. Later he went on to put priests who protested this new church and the newly emerging campaign of the Nazi party into death camps.

Christian? Try again. :D

But anyway, back the the topic everyone....

[Jet Jaguar]

I've read the bible. The story of Jesus is about typical of most prophets living in that time period. I wonder why they chose his story among all the prophets with super powers back then.

Anywhos, I dislike all organized religion. Irrational beliefs will eventually lead to irrational behavior.

Brief enough?

PS: my opinion on the bible, it's the most horrendous, humanicidal book ever written. The god(s) portrayed in the bible stories are indeed a mad lot.

[Vanir]

If you think so.

Hitler only called himself a Christian at the beginning of the life of the Nazi party to gain support from the Church. Back then they were giving the appearance of a party who were interested in repairing the German economy.

And then he made his own church, substituting the swastika and Mein Kampf for the cross and the Bible. Later he went on to put priests who protested this new church and the newly emerging campaign of the Nazi party into death camps.

Christian? Try again. :D

But anyway, back the the topic everyone....
The role of the Church-State institution is to support the monarchy, which was no longer required in Germany as the monarchy was outlawed by the Treaty of Versailles. The only reminiscence of the Church which remained in the German State was Parliament and Hitler did not seek its support in the slightest. He challenged its authority.
The appeals made by Hitler were of Eugenics and general pseudoscience, which appealed to the working class around which the National German Workers Party was centred. Its philosophies were, as mentioned of a Eugenics belief (ie. pseudoscientific racism, "aryans are genetically superior and we are a race of aryans, therefore destined by god" etc.), and its economic policies were socialist (which simply means state owned).
However the Nazi Party and Hitler himself was indeed quite Christian. Whether you find them good Christians is quite another thing.

It is communism, notably Stalinism which is Athiest by nature, certainly not Nazism nor fascism in general.

In historians presently believe Hitler genuinely thought he was a reincarnated Saint, the one in question of which he kept a painting and bore a remarkable likeness to him, even though it was painted a decade before he was born. It even had the square moustache, and stood in crusader armour astride a pile of pagan and muslim corpses.

Have a look at the link in the "belief-o-matic" thread for some of the variations of Christianity and their dramatically different outlooks, doctrines and philosophies. They are drawn together by one common factor: a belief in Jesus Christ, Christianity requires no other qualification.

[aikiMac]

Have a look at the link in the "belief-o-matic" thread for some of the variations of Christianity and their dramatically different outlooks, doctrines and philosophies. They are drawn together by one common factor: a belief in Jesus Christ, Christianity requires no other qualification.
There's more to it than that. What means "Christ" ? What exactly is the "belief" in the belief in Jesus Christ? I would rather say that Christianity is defined at the very least by the combination of The Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the belief that the Bible is God's message to mankind.

I absolutely, totally doubt that Adolf Hitler was a Christian because by every history record he fails the test of the Apostle James set forth in James' epistle.

[jroe52]

jesus was cool... people harming others for jesus are not:) hehe

[Jesh]

jesus was cool... people harming others for jesus are not:) hehe

As Fonzie would say: "Exactemundo !!!"

[slipthejab]

In historians presently believe Hitler genuinely thought he was a reincarnated Saint, the one in question of which he kept a painting and bore a remarkable likeness to him, even though it was painted a decade before he was born. It even had the square moustache, and stood in crusader armour astride a pile of pagan and muslim corpses.

Which 'In' historians do you refer to? :confused:

[Johnno]

1. If you have read the Bible, what is your opinion of Jesus the man?
2. What is your opinion on Christians?

Keep it brief.

Jesus the man? As opposed to Jesus the Messiah or God-incarnate or prophet or whatever else you may consider him to be? Well, in the Bible he's really nice. No question about it. A kind compassionate man with some great party tricks. (Can't consider them as miracles if we're talking about Jesus the man! :D )

Opinion of Christians? It's hard to have an opinion on several hundred million people. I'm pretty sure there are many millions of good people and many millions of bad people and many millions inbetween. Same as the members of any other religion. If you'll pardon me saying so, it seems like a strange question to ask. Did you really mean to ask about people's opinions on Christianity as a religion? :confused:

[reikislapper]

Jesus was a prophet in his own right,

Christians well they are just people who are following what they choose to believe in a book which has been rewritten many times over the centuries.

I used to be one and now choose to follow the old religion which they copied from us.
lisa xx :D

[jonmonk]

1. If you have read the Bible, what is your opinion of Jesus the man?
2. What is your opinion on Christians?1. Yes I have (I was forced to memorise a lot of it too). I think Jesus was a good man who had enough of what he saw as hypocrisy in the Jewish establishment and chose to stand up and do something about it. Of course now many see the Christian church as the establishment...
2. I've met Christians who I've liked and respected and I've met Christians I've disliked, I suspect, in the same sort of ratio as in the population as a whole.

[Joe_GA]

1. I am a Christian and I hold to the traditional belief that Jesus is the Incarnation of God.

2. Christians are pretty much like everyone else, a few are truly virtuous, most are neither totally virtuous nor totally vicious, a few are vicious.