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karhn
21-Aug-2005, 08:46 PM
i had to sparr with my instructor and he didnt go easy but i did hold my own and surpized him abit :) except when i nearly got knocked out took a round kick to the head i felt well dizzy but it was really good fighting someone who is very good have any of you lot sparred with your instructor ? and was it eye opening ? and do you think its better sparring with someone who is better then you?

JSun
21-Aug-2005, 08:52 PM
I think I'm always going to learn something when sparring with someone who is more knowledgeable than myself. That's why I pay for classes :) Yea, it might hurt sometimes, but as Nietzsche wrote, "That which does not kill me will only make me stronger."

Ikken Hisatsu
21-Aug-2005, 10:21 PM
at my old gym our instructor was stil an active fighter so he sparred with us a lot. well I say spar, more like toy with us :D

cobrakhanmember
24-Aug-2005, 02:30 AM
yea all the time. he never goes easy but he keeps using the same moves all the time so u know whats coming :bang:

TNT Tommy
25-Aug-2005, 05:26 PM
as a student, I had the opportunity to spar with my instructor, and I think he went easy on me.

Now as a kickboxing instructor I have sparred several times with my students as long as I feel they have enough experience to "hold thier own" with me.
I take it a little easy on them though, cuz I need them to be able to fight with their clubmates.

I still actively participate in kickboxing competitions as well.

TNT Tommy

Davey Bones
25-Aug-2005, 05:41 PM
Any able-bodied instructor will always be willing to get in the ring and mix it up with the students (yes, I chose my words carefully as I am aware of Ikken's coach and his rep, and people like that are obviouly exempt, lol).

Always take advantage of these opportunities, you'll learn a lot.

mai tai
25-Aug-2005, 08:20 PM
Any able-bodied instructor will always be willing to get in the ring and mix it up with the students (yes, I chose my words carefully as I am aware of Ikken's coach and his rep, and people like that are obviouly exempt, lol).

Always take advantage of these opportunities, you'll learn a lot.
who is ikken coach?

jabcrosshook
25-Aug-2005, 10:05 PM
who is ikken coach?

Lollo

Ikken Hisatsu
25-Aug-2005, 10:08 PM
Lollo Heimuli, first NZer to win against a ranked Thai, and has trained people like Ray Sefo, Jason Suttie and Shane Chapman, all international champs and k-1 fighters

Gray
27-Aug-2005, 09:30 AM
I spar with my instructor(s) all the time. It's great.

Domestic_Rat
25-Sep-2005, 10:46 PM
Yea I sparred with my instructor once at my old school. I couldn't land one puch on him. To make things worse; when he sees an opening he throws like 5 punches simmiltaniously, and all of them land HARD. I was outclassed in every possible way (except hight; which makes it even more embarrassing...)

Jesse@RTKD
28-Sep-2005, 08:38 AM
Yah i train at a very small gym (only 5 fighters) and my instructor is Billy "the kid" Degoumois who recently got a south pacific title so hes world ranked and his assistant is George Groth who is about to go for the aussie title against a thai called ghot suer noi. I spar george all the time and he goes a bit easy on me but i still get the crap kicked out of me, his kicks are hard to check coz hes so fast and hes got crazy boxing combos, but i know its only doing good for me..even though i limp home.
Ive only done pad work with billy but i probably will spar him in the future when i harden up.

Juego Todo
30-Sep-2005, 02:37 AM
My azz has been handed to me on a silver plate many-a-time by past teachers. Although humbling, humiliating and sore all those times, they were also very enlightening, eye-opening (sometimes closed..."Adrian!!!") and educational.

On the other hand, just because you may be able to catch your teacher here & there doesn't necessarily mean that he/she is not a good teacher. Look & listen to what he/she does & says.

The best fighters are not necessarily the best teachers.

Likewise, the best teachers are not necessarily the best fighters.

Take, for instance, Lou Duva in the boxing world. He may not be able to lay a glove on any of his stable of fighters. Despite that, have you seen his long-list of fighters and their numerous victories? The man is wise; he has a lot to teach and he shouldn't be discounted because he can't beat his fighters.

Sparring with people more skillful than you is always good because:

-you discover your weaknesses;

-you find out what you should be working on harder;

-you see what works and what doesn't work against different kinds of opponents;

-your ego is in check because you soon discover that just when you think that you're all that, somebody alot better comes along to give you a reality check.

I think that those who stick to sparring the same people, especially those whom they can beat, create false senses of securities for themselves by staying in their comfort zones. They want to be the big fish in little ponds. In fact, it may be an unmentionable factor of fear. Unless they strip themselves of their egos, they will never really truly improve.

Fighters with heart will seek to improve their skills by seeking out challenges for themselves, some in the forms of other skilled fighters.

Just IMHO :)

clemsontkd
30-Sep-2005, 02:49 AM
i sparred my instructor, but he was paying attention to two other people sparring while he was sparring me.

Shrfu_Eric
30-Sep-2005, 05:44 PM
sparring with people especially your instructor will help you develop better skills.

I spar with my teacher every oppertunity I get and I spar with my students alot. As we do alot of sparring. My teacher did break my cheekbone and fracture my nasal cavity. Accidents happen .. no biggie. He did tell me I almost beat him and put him in the will not lose mode. Quite the compliment.

I learned from that sparring lesson though.

Eric

kickboxingidiot
01-Oct-2005, 05:24 PM
instructors sparring with students is great BUT can be a double edged sword sometiems.
The instructor shoudlnt have to hit the student hard its for the students benefit.
UNLESS he is preparign the student (who is now of a high standard) for full contact fighting.