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DirtyHarry
19-Aug-2005, 12:40 AM
lol i know it sounds like an oxymoron, "recovering from deadly blows", cause u wouldnt recover if it was "deadly" lol. what i mean is, like lets say some guy has a knife to me, and i take my fingers and i poke him in the eyes, or lets say i knife hand or punch him in the adams apple, or cup my hands and hit his ears. would the assailant be able to recover fully from those hits, like eye jab, adams apple hit, or hits to the ear??? :confused:

Slindsay
19-Aug-2005, 12:43 AM
Errmm, well that kina depends on how hard you hit them doesnt it?

Davey Bones
19-Aug-2005, 12:44 AM
and whether he actually succumbs to the shot or not

Prophet
19-Aug-2005, 12:45 AM
Why dont you try it on yourself and find out :p

With all due respect, this is sort of a silly question. I mean, how could we possibly know, givin the number of variables? If you just lightly touch his eye he'd recover for sure, but if you blinded him, maybe not.

There is to much to take into consideration to give you a straight answer.

Oh, and your sig is way to big

DirtyHarry
19-Aug-2005, 02:18 AM
i mean like an andrenaline-filled hard shot to those areas

Vanir
19-Aug-2005, 09:03 AM
Let's take the example right across to the most deadly self defence strike of all: a gunshot.

In the 1800's British soldiers were beginning to find their officers were having a slight problem in the colonies where zealous natives they'd wounded fatally several times, would continue charging and kill the officer even whilst dying of their wounds. This led to calibers such as the .455" being developed from the original circa. .30" sidearms.

The French even offered the awesome Le Mat percussion revolver for those awkward situations, it consisted of a second single shot barrel containing a circa. 65" caliber round for last ditch use, with the standard circa. .40" caliber chambers (nine of 'em) arranged around it, in a cylinder and using it as a mounting pin, the rest of the gigantic handgun built around it.

The Le Mat revolver, considered a good measure to ensure lethal gunshot wounds which would actually disable an attacker immediately:
http://www.bigcountry.de/Revolver%20Le%20Mat.jpg

Now you'll want some of those playstation chi powers to get hand strikes as deadly as that..

The common rule is, most typical unsuspecting people aren't prepared for domestic combat so pretty basic things will usually work: vital strikes, shouting "NO!" and some good scrapping skills, but if you come across a serious and dedicated attacker, such as a professional criminal of some description, to my experience it's best to go with movement mechanics and use nerve-type strikes as softening blows. Also, keep yourself close to law enforcement measures and use them, it's what they're there for.

drunkenmonkey
30-Aug-2005, 10:05 PM
well if he has a knife odds are if you don't try to disarm him quickly I imagine whatever you do he's gonna cut you. Since your putting yourself right in his range with these attacks and leaving the knife free all he has to do is wave it around and he's gonna tag you even if you are blinding him.

cavallin
30-Aug-2005, 10:09 PM
yes but as long as you just get tagged it's much better than to get stabbed so you still end up better off. i think you should never only rely on one attack for SD, and you should always carry out throws/locks/take downs/SD moves till the guy is not gona get up and you can run off safely. but without killing him :D

drunkenmonkey
30-Aug-2005, 10:47 PM
yes but as long as you just get tagged it's much better than to get stabbed so you still end up better off. i think you should never only rely on one attack for SD, and you should always carry out throws/locks/take downs/SD moves till the guy is not gona get up and you can run off safely. but without killing him :D
From personal expierence (I have been cut in a knife fight) if you try and eye gouge or throat strike "tagged" ia an understat ment especially if the assailint has used the knife before. Having a 6 inch strip o9f flesh shaved off your arm is gonna hurt real bad to say the least. And as far as worrying about hurting the attacker while trying to save your own life thats more thnking than you really need tyo be doing. I'm attacking full on and leaving anyway cause me course but this guy just tried to kill me and I'm not about to stay and give him cpr or call an ambulace they can find him wherever it was he attacked me the next day for all I care but I'll make it home to my family that time.

cavallin
30-Aug-2005, 10:54 PM
that was a bit of a mission to read! i think im the kinda person that would call an ambulance if i floored someone badly, even if they tried to kill me, just cos im like that. and i would want them sent to prison, not me.
i can see what you're saying (just :D) but i would still rather get a cut than be killed or *seriously* injured. besides i would only go in if i really had to. if the guy is approaching i would just run in the opposite direction with all my might. i'd only try to defend myself if i was cornered or really had to. then it would be a cut or death

tellner
30-Aug-2005, 11:35 PM
The French even offered the awesome Le Mat percussion revolver for those awkward situations, it consisted of a second single shot barrel containing a circa. 65" caliber round for last ditch use, with the standard circa. .40" caliber chambers (nine of 'em) arranged around it, in a cylinder and using it as a mounting pin, the rest of the gigantic handgun built around it.


A local gun shop had a mint LeMat originally contracted for the Confederate Army. Rifling was 100%. All the filework on the screw heads was immaculate. The thing had been sitting in bear grease for almost 150 years.

They sold it for a very low $110,000. Seeing the sticker price was nearly a deadly blow to my heart. :eek:

drunkenmonkey
31-Aug-2005, 07:33 PM
that was a bit of a mission to read! i think im the kinda person that would call an ambulance if i floored someone badly, even if they tried to kill me, just cos im like that. and i would want them sent to prison, not me.
i can see what you're saying (just :D) but i would still rather get a cut than be killed or *seriously* injured. besides i would only go in if i really had to. if the guy is approaching i would just run in the opposite direction with all my might. i'd only try to defend myself if i was cornered or really had to. then it would be a cut or death

yeah if you can get away it' usually the best thing to do. I just assume were talking no way out situations. I don't disrespect anyones moral judgement because I feel thats a product of upbrining and enviroment. But all in all great post cavalin you covered both sides of the moral issue as well as the defense issue. :D