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deathbloom
16-Aug-2005, 12:39 PM
Does anyone besides me use obtuse kicks?. I've been finding myself using them a lot lately as we've got a couple of new members and they tend to hold their hands too far apart in sparring, when that happens there's nothing like an obtuse kick to pop up between their hands and catch them on the chin. What do you guys reckon?
jabcrosshook
16-Aug-2005, 04:04 PM
Does anyone besides me use obtuse kicks?.
What actually are they? Got any examples? :)
slipthejab
16-Aug-2005, 04:10 PM
LOL!
Easy thesaurus boy. :D
Which kind of obtuse were you referring to?
obtuse
ob·tuse
adj. ob·tus·er, ob·tus·est
1.
1. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect.
2. Characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity: an obtuse remark.
3. Not distinctly felt: an obtuse pain.
2.
1. Not sharp, pointed, or acute in form; blunt.
2. Having an obtuse angle: an obtuse triangle.
3. Botany. Having a blunt or rounded tip: an obtuse leaf.
hint.. some of the above won't work with kicks. :D
jabcrosshook
16-Aug-2005, 05:39 PM
Hehe - quite amusing how nobody else seems to know what one is, either. Of course, the mighty slipmeister does, because he knows everything. I bow down.
hint.. some of the above won't work with kicks. :D
hint.. crap jokes aren't funny :D
slipthejab
16-Aug-2005, 06:00 PM
Hehe - quite amusing how nobody else seems to know what one is, either. Of course, the mighty slipmeister does, because he knows everything. I bow down.
hint.. crap jokes aren't funny :D
just the facts mate.. just the facts.
jabcrosshook
16-Aug-2005, 06:02 PM
just the facts mate.. just the facts.
Which facts are these? You basically posted 15 lines, of which most was utter crap.
akitaka
16-Aug-2005, 06:08 PM
In K-1: Buakaw totally beat "champ" Masato in by catching him on the face with such kicks. Some people are too used to techniques requiring a round trip to execute (hooks, leg kicks, round kicks, etc). A same incident can be found in the thread that mentioned using Wing Chun punches in boxing; linear attackes to throw some rhythm off :)
johndoch
16-Aug-2005, 07:46 PM
Its the opposite of an acute kick :rolleyes:
jabcrosshook
16-Aug-2005, 07:56 PM
Its the opposite of an acute kick :rolleyes:
Thanks. Just what I wanted to know ;):p
Obviously it's called something different where I am, so anyone care to actually elaborate on what it actually is (without being a smartarse and quoting from a dictionary).
deathbloom
17-Aug-2005, 06:11 AM
Well i've always been taught to call roundhouse kicks turning kicks so the name probably is different. Hmmm, kinda hard to describe, imagine a front kick only with your leg turned on the side. Not the best way to describe it but it's all I can think of at the moment.
Another Muay Thai Guy
17-Aug-2005, 02:16 PM
In maths an obtuse angle is something more than 90 degrees but less than 180 degrees, so does this apply to the kick i.e. what angle it strikes at? :confused: Or am I totally barking up the wrong tree here? :D
TheMadhoose
17-Aug-2005, 02:18 PM
could yuo be referring to a twisting kick ?which way do you turn teh kicking leg??
akitaka
17-Aug-2005, 02:22 PM
He means a straight kick that raises above 90 degrees. Think high push kick. I'd just call it that, though; a high push kick/snapping kick. Obtuse is too obscurely used :)
TheMadhoose
17-Aug-2005, 02:26 PM
akitaka ...........we talking about a high front kick then?
slipthejab
17-Aug-2005, 02:27 PM
Which facts are these? You basically posted 15 lines, of which most was utter crap.
relax jackson... no need to get yer panties in a knot... obtuse or otherwise :D
breathe deep.. focus on the lotus... breathe deep...
2. Having an obtuse angle: an obtuse triangle.
That's the fact that is relevant to the post... since most people don't commonly use the word obtuse to describe kicks of this nature. :D Judging from the number of posts asking what the heck an obtuse kick is... it'd be relevant for most to know the varrying definitions of the word.
Comprende?
akitaka
17-Aug-2005, 02:31 PM
High front kick, heel kick, as long as it comes up between the guard and plugs the oppenent in the chin. Confining it to terms only makes it confusing; but if it works for you, front kick it is :)
TheMadhoose
17-Aug-2005, 02:33 PM
ok now im with ya.
jabcrosshook
17-Aug-2005, 03:40 PM
That's the fact that is relevant to the post... since most people don't commonly use the word obtuse to describe kicks of this nature. :D
I didn't think we were talking in botanical terms, somehow.
Judging from the number of posts asking what the heck an obtuse kick is... it'd be relevant for most to know the varrying definitions of the word.
But if someone asks what a front kick is, do we have to give them the definition of front? Responding with a dictionary reference to "crocodile" for a "crocodile kick" isn't hiighly appropriate, either :p I'm well aware of what obtuse is, but 90 degrees can apply to a whole lot of directions rather than just front. By that definition, is a high roundkick an obtuse kick? Spinning backfist? We have a high number of colourful names for kicks.
Now that we've established what one is (front kick/push kick/snap kick), I'm happy :)
Comprende?
In terms of what an obtuse kick is, yes. No thanks to this post though :)
In response to the original post
kickboxingidiot
17-Aug-2005, 07:22 PM
Obtuse?
what a stupid name for a kick
jabcrosshook
17-Aug-2005, 07:54 PM
Obtuse?
what a stupid name for a kick
Leg kicks are now being called acute kicks, and straight ones will be referred to as right kicks :)
deathbloom
18-Aug-2005, 10:55 AM
Nope sorry guys not a high push kick. Ok i'll try explaining it again here goes: You know the stretch where you sit down, extend one leg then tuck the other in? well the tucked leg is the same action as the obtuse kick, then it's just a matter of pushing it out from your body. It's a really unorthodox kick (obviously) and often your opponent has no idea what you're doing when you throw one out.
jabcrosshook
18-Aug-2005, 01:37 PM
Nope sorry guys not a high push kick. Ok i'll try explaining it again here goes: You know the stretch where you sit down, extend one leg then tuck the other in? well the tucked leg is the same action as the obtuse kick, then it's just a matter of pushing it out from your body. It's a really unorthodox kick (obviously) and often your opponent has no idea what you're doing when you throw one out.
Ah - I see :)
Yes, they are good. I use them a lot too.
slipthejab
18-Aug-2005, 02:51 PM
But if someone asks what a front kick is, do we have to give them the definition of front?
yeah but people basically know what the heck front means. With the word 'obtuse'... your bound to get just what this thread got.. lots of questions as to what the heck 'obtuse' was.
I'm well aware of what obtuse is, but 90 degrees can apply to a whole lot of directions rather than just front. By that definition, is a high roundkick an obtuse kick? Spinning backfist? We have a high number of colourful names for kicks.
That only makes the point of describing a kick as 'obtuse' superfluous in the first place. :D
Now that we've established what one is (front kick/push kick/snap kick), I'm happy :)
Your happy.. I'm happy. :)
jabcrosshook
18-Aug-2005, 06:17 PM
yeah but people basically know what the heck front means. With the word 'obtuse'... your bound to get just what this thread got.. lots of questions as to what the heck 'obtuse' was.
Who actually asked what obtuse meant? Everyone basically asked what an obtuse kick is. The two are different. If someone asks what a roundkick is it doesn't mean they don't know what the word round means.
That only makes the point of describing a kick as 'obtuse' superfluous in the first place. :D
Which was a large part of the reason why I asked what he was talking about :)
Your happy.. I'm happy. :)
Good :)
kickboxingidiot
20-Aug-2005, 07:14 PM
so whats an obtuse kick then?
Wolf
20-Aug-2005, 07:29 PM
if it's kicking with the top of the foot, we call that an "inside round kick." Just another point of view :D
deathbloom
21-Aug-2005, 04:05 AM
I give up.
slipthejab
21-Aug-2005, 04:14 AM
Who actually asked what obtuse meant? Everyone basically asked what an obtuse kick is. The two are different. If someone asks what a roundkick is it doesn't mean they don't know what the word round means.
Everyone asked what an obtuse kick was because using the word obtuse to describe it did little to give the people an idea of what kind of kick it was... so describing the word obtuse may have been helpful. Especially for those thinking that it was a kick related to botany. :D
Much in the same way that a round kick is often mistaken for a kick with some relation to a cut of beef from the part of the thigh between the rump and the shank. :D
JSun
21-Aug-2005, 05:17 PM
if it's kicking with the top of the foot, we call that an "inside round kick." Just another point of view :D
I'm thinking that what is being described is called Ahn Koom Dohl Li Ki in Korean, or the turn inside heel kick. So does this particular kick being discussed emanate from the rear leg when one is in a guarding stance? If so, I think it's the same kick that exists in the Kuk Sool technique sohn mohk soo 8.
kickboxingidiot
29-Aug-2005, 03:26 PM
This is a stupid topic!
dont even try that line " you dont like it dotn read it" as how am i gonna know if a topic is good or crap until i DO read it!
I want a proper explanation on what an obtuse kick is
If it exists and is not a figment of someones imagination.
The rest of you are cool all the same (apart from the wierdo who ahd a wet dream that involved an obtuse kick)
Davey Bones
29-Aug-2005, 03:49 PM
Sounds like it's either a Twist Kick or (more likely) a Mantis Kick, depending on the teminology deathbloom has listed. They're nasty suckers.
And "obtuse kick" only helps in making the kick utterly incomprensible! Who came up with that name?!?
slipthejab
29-Aug-2005, 05:57 PM
This is a stupid topic!
dont even try that line " you dont like it dotn read it" as how am i gonna know if a topic is good or crap until i DO read it!
I want a proper explanation on what an obtuse kick is
If it exists and is not a figment of someones imagination.
The rest of you are cool all the same (apart from the wierdo who ahd a wet dream that involved an obtuse kick)
BWHAAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!
That's hilarious! :D
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