View Full Version : What styles of Ninpo do you train?
xplasma
17-Jul-2003, 05:21 PM
Genbukan
Brad Ellin
17-Jul-2003, 09:34 PM
Bujinkan. Started 21 years ago and don't plan on quitting until they scatter my ashes.
Kinjiro Tsukasa
22-Jul-2003, 05:32 PM
Bujinkan here. But I am quite new at it.
havoc123
31-Aug-2003, 01:33 AM
Genbukan is what i do. im new in the art but am highly motivated and passionate about the art.
chaozkingz
01-Sep-2003, 04:40 PM
Ninjukai Taijutsu. Glad to see that on the list.
xplasma
01-Sep-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by chaozkingz
Ninjukai Taijutsu. Glad to see that on the list.
Yeah, I put it on the list bascially because its linage has niether been proven nor disproven. So I put it up there so people can make their own disicions.
Shinden
04-Sep-2003, 11:49 AM
I am doing Jinenkan in Denmark since 2001
Before that 9 years of Bujinkan.
By the way here is a superarticle about manaka-sama
http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=3156
:D
chaozkingz
04-Sep-2003, 04:33 PM
i don't know much about the lineage, but check www.ninjukai.com.au
it has a bit of info abt it.
i don't care much about the past of any art, i've done other martial arts as well, and i do the art because i enjoy training. besides, it works :)
i am thinking about doing some bujinkan though, but there is some hositility towards ninjukai practicioners here, and i don't think they r going to be happy if i am doing both styles at the same time.
i am pretty sure the guys in the ninjukai dojo won't mind, but i don't know how the bujinkan people are going to take it.
advice, bujinkan practicioners here?
roninswan
23-Sep-2003, 11:59 AM
To-Shin Do here. I throughly enjoy both the art and the mind-science that goes with it.
Sonshu
23-Sep-2003, 04:19 PM
BBD (Brian McCarthy's school of it) which I think is the more realistic and better version - he was 8th dan I think under Hatsumi about 10 years ago.
Also Sonshu has many key elements of Taijitsu in it.
Cougar_v203
25-Sep-2003, 02:49 PM
Bujinkan...i'm actually self teaching myself because there aren't any in my immediate area.
Virtuous
25-Sep-2003, 03:13 PM
Bujinkan here.
obimikenobi
13-Oct-2003, 04:02 AM
bujinkan, but with genbukan background
Kanja
01-Nov-2003, 02:40 PM
Ninjukai taijutsu here
ninja4u2hire
02-Nov-2003, 12:42 AM
Bujinkan 7 years now, prior sho-in-ryu karate, and one year capoeira, how bout that mix
ns_oni
02-Nov-2003, 02:37 AM
Bujinkan for me, but i try and learn alot about the other ninja styles.
One thing that ive been wondering about, is the kurokawa style of ninjutsu. its only taught in brazil now i think, anyone know/heard anything about it ? it comes from the ninja that originated at kurokawa river. :Alien:
havoc123
03-Nov-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by chaozkingz
i am thinking about doing some bujinkan though, but there is some hositility towards ninjukai practicioners here, and i don't think they r going to be happy if i am doing both styles at the same time.
i am pretty sure the guys in the ninjukai dojo won't mind, but i don't know how the bujinkan people are going to take it.
advice, bujinkan practicioners here?
Not to offend anyone but from what i gather is that my Bujinkan brothers dont really like anyone that doesnt do Bujinkan.
As for genbukan im sure no one could care less about what else uve done.
|-KINJO-|
08-Nov-2003, 07:03 PM
I'm training in the art of Ninjado. Perhaps I can give you guys a little info about this art.
It is not at all related with Ninjitsu, but rather it's an all rounded skill which trains its practitioners to be proficient in striking methods, grappling, ariel techniques, weaponry and others. Some may just prefer to call it a freestyle, but I still insist of it as a martial art because it is trained under the traditional values of martial arts.
Why Ninjado the name? Well, as far as i know, on of it missions is to cultivate the characters of perserverance, discipline and respect in martial artists, that why they prefer to call it 'martial arts trained under the Ways of The Ninja'.
Of course, some would just dismiss it as a mere imitation, but hey, to me its the skill that counts! heez...
Feel free to ask you guys
Zamfoo
08-Nov-2003, 09:54 PM
how can anything be related to ninjas but not ninjutsu itself?
|-KINJO-|
08-Nov-2003, 10:09 PM
You see, the word "NINJA" is made up of 2 Japanese characters: NIN and JA. In Ninjado, we don't do the traditional business or practice of Ninja arts, but just use the meanings of the characters: NIN=endurance, JA=the practioner. Here, we're trained to learn the traditional aspects of patience, discipline, etc, etc. So, it have no linkages with the Ninja, it's just the meaning to fit the art's purpose.
Thanks for your reply.
obimikenobi
11-Nov-2003, 04:54 AM
Every one must follow his/her own path to personal growth, so I think its fine to make a "martial art" or wathever that fits one's goals if no other suitable way is found. Im just unconfortable when they call it ninjutsu, an established historical martial art. So as long you call it anything else, fine with me!
Kagebushi
23-Nov-2003, 06:48 PM
self taught bujinkan with whatever else works thrown in
hafer34
23-Nov-2003, 10:38 PM
I study an american hybrid style of Ninjutsu. However I also train a little in Bujinkan. But I totally agree with Kagebushi and I use whatever I want and reject what I dont want. I make martial arts fit me and all my personal interests. With Bujinkan I feel is a very strong martial art, however I find it hard to study different finger and hand strikes such as a thumb strike and also I dont like to practice lots of jointlocks becuase there is too much technique involved. Bujinkan is a very effective art, just not for me.
SilentNightfall
25-Nov-2003, 02:59 PM
Just curious, but when you say the Bujinkan is too much about techniques, what do you mean exactly? The ultimate goal of our art is to move past techniques and become "zero." The techniques initially learned simply teach one how to move and, in the case of joint locks, they show how to lock up various parts of the body. They teach fundamentals that should then be utilized in a real confrontation if made available. No one ever expects that you will pull a musha dori in combat, but it's knowing how to lock the shoulder up that's important. Just my two yen. Jaa, mata.
Zamfoo
25-Nov-2003, 09:31 PM
yeah i mean thousands of times i've watched randori go the same way but have like 20 different counters and sometimes when practicing your body will just flow into some other techniques that just becomes natural.I think that's what's great about this art and maybe others(no experience in others)
Brad Ellin
07-Dec-2003, 01:41 AM
"Not to offend anyone but from what i gather is that my Bujinkan brothers dont really like anyone that doesnt do Bujinkan.
As for genbukan im sure no one could care less about what else uve done."
Actually that statement is false. Those in the Bujinkan that dislike someone just because they are not Bujinkan are blind and deaf. You must open your eyes and ears to what is around you. Doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, but you should be aware of it. I'm sure there are many fine people in other branches of Ninjutsu/Ninpo, as there are in the Booj. Politics should be left to politicians. We should just "Shut up and train!"
CelticAngel
08-Dec-2003, 08:30 PM
All above.
I spend my time learning all the different Styles I can. So one day I can just combine it all together and try to make it as good as possible.
Of course, you can't make the best. There will never be one perfect style
G-prime
21-Dec-2003, 07:21 PM
Irgun Kvuzot Budo Ninjutsu (or Budo Ninjutsu for short)
its an Israely sub-style of Bujinkan
it's basicly the same thing only with more studying of how to defeat Martial artists of other styles and a very high level of combat efficiency.
http://www.ninjutsu.co.il/english/mainweb%20english/what_is_budo_ninjutsu.htm#The%20main%20points%20of %20emphasis%20are:
DrUnKNiNjA
22-Dec-2003, 07:22 PM
Bujinkan Brother here for over 20 years!!
I agree with Kurohana, who ever puts down a martial artist for his art is blind and deaf!! who knows you could get beaten by a guy (or girl) that does croquet fu!!!:) The art it self isnt what makes it great its the practitioner that makes it great, its the teacher that also makes it terrific............ its people! movement! and BrotherHood!!!! :)
Kalifallen
07-May-2004, 05:47 PM
Wow, bujinkan is popular. Great poll, though I think it should of said, Ninjutsu Hybred instead of American Ninjutsu Hybred as the last choice. Cause I'd say other countries have their own hybreds instead of just America.
Vanir
08-May-2004, 02:21 AM
Left out Kobudo (Takamatsu ryuha).
K_Coffin
08-May-2004, 05:59 AM
Interesting poll. It's good to see what other types of ninjutsu are out there. I'm particularly interested in Ninjukai. I've always been interested in the mental side of training, and it seems like they put more focus on that.
xplasma
08-May-2004, 06:01 AM
Vanir,
I started this poll over last summer, to get a feel for the board. First I thought Kobudo just meant "the warrior's path", not that its a seperate Ryu. Secondly, didn't all of Takamatsu grandmastership go to Hatsumi Sensei? Which became the Bujinkan, and eventually the other kans.
On other note:
As for Ninjukai Taijutsu, we used to have a few of them on the board we wanted to see how many.
As for Ninjitsu (Hybird Style) those are everywhere (Dux Ryu, Tew Ryu, etc.) I figure to give them an option.
Vanir
08-May-2004, 11:13 AM
Hatsumi Soke is the head of the family upon the warrior path of Togakure.
The worldwide Togakure Ryu Ninjutsu Bujinkan Dojos were begun by Stephen K Hayes under the "ownership" of Masaaki Hatsumi in the mid-1980's. In the late-1990's I believe, Hatsumi Soke felt a name change to Ninpo Budo Taijutsu was more appropriate from that time.
Takamatsu Ryuha Kobudo operates under the Sakushin dojos, out of Japan and I understand is respectworthy in its own right. It is not necessarily vastly different, nor would I arbitrarily regard it as a seperate Ryu.
I've also trained with Wayne Roy's Australian chapter of the Togakure Bujinkan Dojos, back in the 1990's.
xplasma
08-May-2004, 04:34 PM
Hatsumi Soke is the head of the family upon the warrior path of Togakure.
The worldwide Togakure Ryu Ninjutsu Bujinkan Dojos were begun by Stephen K Hayes under the "ownership" of Masaaki Hatsumi in the mid-1980's. In the late-1990's I believe, Hatsumi Soke felt a name change to Ninpo Budo Taijutsu was more appropriate from that time.
Takamatsu Ryuha Kobudo operates under the Sakushin dojos, out of Japan and I understand is respectworthy in its own right. It is not necessarily vastly different, nor would I arbitrarily regard it as a seperate Ryu.
I've also trained with Wayne Roy's Australian chapter of the Togakure Bujinkan Dojos, back in the 1990's.
Great information. Thanx!
bujingodai
13-Jun-2004, 06:24 PM
Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu
Honshin Ryu Ninjutsu
Good that this board is open-mnded to indies.
There is a good summit for the indies coming up in March actually.
Keikai
14-Jun-2004, 09:09 AM
You see, the word "NINJA" is made up of 2 Japanese characters: NIN and JA. In Ninjado, we don't do the traditional business or practice of Ninja arts, but just use the meanings of the characters: NIN=endurance, JA=the practioner. Here, we're trained to learn the traditional aspects of patience, discipline, etc, etc. So, it have no linkages with the Ninja, it's just the meaning to fit the art's purpose.
Thanks for your reply.
I was always aware that the symbol was just nin which when translated down meant blade heart then benelovent heart.
I am bujinkan and proud, as for the Jin and Gen, well they are really from the same tree so who are we to compare, its just another diverse aspect to the art, its the others like fuma ryu etc that i do not care for!
hatsie
14-Jun-2004, 11:32 AM
bujinkan, under bo f. munthe, wayne roy's ninjutsu, bujinkan under hatsumi sensei(i saved the best for last,lol)
ninjukia is interesting, never heard of that one. like to try it if i'm in perth. it seems to include karate type kicks, would that be correct ?
variety is the spice of life !
dazza
vladmr1313
14-Jun-2004, 03:49 PM
Technically I don't practice anything just yet but tomorrow is my first lesson in To Shindo.
V
oneninja
14-Jun-2004, 03:54 PM
Sato Ryu Ninjutsu Since 1966
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