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mani
14-Jul-2003, 02:59 PM
is TaeBo, karate without kata?

YODA
14-Jul-2003, 03:04 PM
LOL!

No - TaeBo is Aerobics based (loosly) on martial arts movements. :D

Andy Murray
14-Jul-2003, 03:12 PM
NoNoNo!

Tae Bo is a reeeeaeel and deadly art!

Ranked in video tapes (I'm a seventh dan VHS).

Sign up, Sign Up, Billy Blanks will perform 'Hamlet' in my garden if you don't!

Saz
14-Jul-2003, 03:13 PM
TaeBo is a big waste of time as far as martial arts are concerned!

Why do you want to do karate without kata? If kata isn't your thing, try a different art, karate's the worst thing you could pick if you hate kata.

pgm316
14-Jul-2003, 03:50 PM
You've obviously not pulled on some lycra with a Blackbelt Taebo instructor KY girl! kick to the beat! :D

You might do well in a nightclub fight, but in the street you've had it ;)

YODA
14-Jul-2003, 04:26 PM
Did someone say Lycra?

Rob_InDaUk
14-Jul-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by YODA
Did someone say Lycra?


You gone and got him all excited now!! ;)

Rob

pgm316
14-Jul-2003, 05:40 PM
What have I said, the auto censoring must be turned off!

L****

Seems to be working fine now!

:p

Freeform
25-Jul-2003, 11:55 PM
C'mon, in 50 years time, someone'll look at Billy Blanks routines and determine that there are actually hidden moves.

That the routines actually concentrate on PP's and vital areas............. :D

LOL

I've gotta stop before I wet myself!!! :O

Col

Jazman
26-Jul-2003, 12:47 AM
Though not the deadliest art, Taebo could be the most fun to watch :D

Skye
26-Jul-2003, 03:14 AM
It's a good cardio workout.

bishu-ronin
26-Jul-2003, 04:45 AM
tae bo will never be considered a martial art and would never be able to actually help in a real fight.

booksie_girl
26-Jul-2003, 04:50 AM
Now really, you disbelievers. If I started doing my Tae Bo in the street, everyone would run away screaming. Don't say that isn't effective.

*denies the fact that the screaming had anything to do with the sight of her in Lycra*

Reiyuu
21-Nov-2004, 08:47 PM
ok so what is the real overview of this art for getting fit. How effective is it? How high an impact is it on the joints? These are things I have to take to mind for my condition. due to my condition I have not been allowed to do a martial art and yet it has always been one of my dreams. I heard that this was more aerobics based but still classed as an art.

YODA
21-Nov-2004, 08:50 PM
ok so what is the real overview of this art for getting fit. How effective is it? How high an impact is it on the joints? These are things I have to take to mind for my condition. due to my condition I have not been allowed to do a martial art and yet it has always been one of my dreams. I heard that this was more aerobics based but still classed as an art. It IS more aerobics based and is certainly NOT classed as martial art.

That doesn't mean it isn't a good workout and doesn't mean youy shouldn't do it.

Freeform
22-Nov-2004, 07:11 AM
It's not an art, it's kick-boxercise. A good cv workout but something I'd encourage MAists to avoid like the plague as you'll only get encouraged to perform sloppy technique and lots of it.

kempocos
22-Nov-2004, 10:01 PM
IT HAS NEVER BEEN DESCRIBED OR SAID TO BE A FIGHTING ART. Billy Blanks is also a personal trainer and sold tapes of his WORKOUT class.

YODA
22-Nov-2004, 10:30 PM
IT HAS NEVER BEEN DESCRIBED OR SAID TO BE A FIGHTING ART.
Oh yes it has. I've seen gym posters that claim just that :rolleyes:

KickChick
22-Nov-2004, 10:45 PM
It's not an art, it's kick-boxercise. A good cv workout but something I'd encourage MAists to avoid like the plague as you'll only get encouraged to perform sloppy technique and lots of it.

... well, I disagree as I teach a fitness kickbox class. Totally diff than Taebo but along the same lines and I don't encourage sloppy technique by any means.

Most of the students in my class are TKD students working on speed & endurance outside of the more anaerobic formal TKD class.

You'll find that non-martists say, aerobic instructors will fail to teach correct techniques... but not in my classes!!

Freeform
23-Nov-2004, 07:31 AM
... well, I disagree as I teach a fitness kickbox class. Totally diff than Taebo but along the same lines and I don't encourage sloppy technique by any means.

Most of the students in my class are TKD students working on speed & endurance outside of the more anaerobic formal TKD class.

You'll find that non-martists say, aerobic instructors will fail to teach correct techniques... but not in my classes!!

And I attend a 'fitness kickboxing class' twice a week, where if you have sloppy technique your padman will soon let you know. I was taking about Tae Bo, it is a steaming pile of excrement.

Dave Rees
23-Nov-2004, 07:34 AM
Though not the deadliest art, Taebo could be the most fun to watch :D

Especially if you have some young lovely in LYCRA!!!! :love:

Reiyuu
26-Nov-2004, 09:26 AM
Ok so its not a martial art. But how high an impact is it on the joints. Marfan syndrome patients like my self can dislocate very easily if the joints are worked to hard. I was suggested this because of its aerobic benefits but I have to know that after trhe irst few workouts i'm not going to pop my hip.... again :confused:

And where can I go for classes? I'm located in the west midlands UK and none of the local gyms list this as an option. I'm not too fond of the idea of using a DVD to learn as you get no feedback from your digital instructor.

ap Oweyn
26-Nov-2004, 01:20 PM
Ok so its not a martial art. But how high an impact is it on the joints. Marfan syndrome patients like my self can dislocate very easily if the joints are worked to hard. I was suggested this because of its aerobic benefits but I have to know that after trhe irst few workouts i'm not going to pop my hip.... again :confused:

And where can I go for classes? I'm located in the west midlands UK and none of the local gyms list this as an option. I'm not too fond of the idea of using a DVD to learn as you get no feedback from your digital instructor.

I'd warn against it. You'll find some kickboxing aerobic type instructors who know what they're doing. Kickchick for example. But you'll find many who have simply been certified to teach a kickboxing aerobics class. So they're not going to fully understand the technique from a martial arts standpoint. (Meaning you're not learning martial arts) And improperly thrown kicks are going to be pretty tough on the hips. (Meaning you're risking yourself)

I'd think that swimming would be a fairly safe exercise for someone with concerns about joint damage. And god only knows it's cardiovascular.

But if you still want to do low-impact martial arts, there are certainly options. Taiji leaps to mind, for one of many.

Hope that helps.


Stuart

axelb
26-Nov-2004, 01:33 PM
is Tae Bo in the next Olympics? :Angel:

Dave Rees
26-Nov-2004, 01:35 PM
is Tae Bo in the next Olympics? :Angel:
oooooooooooooo I hope so!!!! :eek:

Reiyuu
06-Dec-2004, 11:58 AM
thank you you seem to have been tho most helpfull so far [no offence to all the others who have tried to help me].. what is Taiji? Where can I learn about it? what kind of style is it?

ap Oweyn
06-Dec-2004, 01:13 PM
thank you you seem to have been tho most helpfull so far [no offence to all the others who have tried to help me].. what is Taiji? Where can I learn about it? what kind of style is it?

Hiya,

Taiji is Tai Chi Ch'uan. Just a different spelling. (Pinyin translation) It's the slow, flowing kung fu you sometimes see people practicing in parks early in the morning. That sort of thing. It's considered an "internal" art. I could explain that a little, but really I think you'd be better served by going to the internal forum right here at MAP and asking around there.

Be warned. You're going to get a lot of different answers. Some people are going to go on and on about chi (or qi), your vital energy. Others are going to treat it in less esoteric terms. That's just the way it is with martial arts. Lots of conflicting opinions to deal with. Don't worry about it too much. Just try and get a sense for what's involved in taiji and then give it a go. Everyone has opinions. And many of them are going to contradict one another. In the long run, you'll be best served by experiencing it yourself and making up your own mind.

Taiji is often thought of as emphasizing holistic health rather than combat. But there are applications to the movements. And there are variations on sparring in taiji. Usually in the form of "push hands." It's an exercise where two people try to unbalance one another and uproot them. If you're more interested in the fighting aspects, you may want to say as much on the internal forum and get some feedback.

Taiji doesn't do a lot of elaborate kicking maneuvers, etc. It's very low impact by and large. A lot of the practice is handled through the form. The long sequence of movements performed solo.

I think your best bet is to go to the internal forum and create a post listing where you live and asking for recommendations for teachers. There are a lot of people on MAP. Decent chance you can get a recommendation for a teacher in your area. At the very least, they'd have some good links to share with you.

Sound good?


Stuart

navanman
06-Dec-2004, 01:37 PM
... well, I disagree as I teach a fitness kickbox class. Totally diff than Taebo but along the same lines and I don't encourage sloppy technique by any means.

Most of the students in my class are TKD students working on speed & endurance outside of the more anaerobic formal TKD class.

You'll find that non-martists say, aerobic instructors will fail to teach correct techniques... but not in my classes!!

I'd say your students are the lucky ones so. I attended a couple of various tae/khai/whatever classes and not one of the instructors took any time at the start of the class explaining how to kick properly or even for those who couldn't kick high (including me :( ) not to try. For a while if I was starting a new class I would actually ask the instructor did they have any martial arts experience and if they didn't I wouldn't go in. I'm not saying you have to have years of experience to teach it but any instructor teaching any fitness class with "martial arts based moves" should have a least an understanding of the dynamics of those moves otherwise people will only end up getting hurt and it's martial arts that gets the rap and not the lousy instruction from somebody who probably doesn't know their a** from their elbow. :bang:

ap Oweyn
06-Dec-2004, 01:43 PM
IT HAS NEVER BEEN DESCRIBED OR SAID TO BE A FIGHTING ART. Billy Blanks is also a personal trainer and sold tapes of his WORKOUT class.

That's not exactly true. The informercials are full of students saying they "feel safer in a parking lot at night." And Blanks never steps onto camera and says "now ladies, this isn't proper self defense; it's just aerobics."

You can't tell me that statements like that weren't put in there deliberately.

I have a great deal of respect for Billy Blanks. I think he's earned everything he's got. But let's call a spade a spade. Taebo does get touted, at least partially, for its self defense applications. And that's not right.


Stuart

KickChick
06-Dec-2004, 04:20 PM
Taebo does get touted, at least partially, for its self defense applications. And that's not right.

No where does that appear on his web site....

.... and for all it's evils Billy Blank's 'Tae Bo' does serve as a bridge for many women over to proper MA training.

ap Oweyn
06-Dec-2004, 04:27 PM
No where does that appear on his web site....

But it does appear in the infomercials. At least it used to. And that's still representative of TaeBo yeah?

.... and for all it's evils Billy Blank's 'Tae Bo' does serve as a bridge for many women over to proper MA training.

I don't think I said it was evil. As far as a bridge to proper training, I think that's wonderful. Especially if they have a good resource like you. But if they train with an aerobics instructor, they don't have that resource.


Stuart

AZeitung
06-Dec-2004, 04:56 PM
Hiya,

Taiji doesn't do a lot of elaborate kicking maneuvers, etc. It's very low impact by and large. A lot of the practice is handled through the form. The long sequence of movements performed solo.

Stuart

Also, Taiji may even help your joint condition, to an extent. I have heard of people doing some knee damage, somehow (not where I take Taiji, but it seems like it's been mentioned on this forum) - and I really have no idea how that happens, since it's definitely a lot easier on the knees than most martial arts. But for the most part, I've heard of people with things like old shoulder injuries actually seeing significant improvement in their conditions. So maybe it would help a little bit with yours.