Kung Fu Register

[Andy Murray]

Hi there,

If you currently practice a Chinese Martial Art system, please tell us about it, and why you train in it.

Andy

[Spike]

Hey there all, My name is Spike and I am a practitioner of a Chinese Style.
It`s a club in Stirling and the style is called, Lan Jung Kuen.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Spike,

Good to see another Chinese stylist on board. Can you translate Lan Jung Kuen for us at all? The Japanese and Korean stylists won't know what it means.

Would I be right in saying you have been training with Angus (The Sidekick) Muedell?

Regards

Andy

[Greyghost]

HI spike, nice to see you here...to see you nice.

Am i right in saying that we met you in Edinburgh, your girlfriend has atattoo on her leg and you think that rhyming your defense in court is a much better way of proving your innocence?

anyway...good to see you here.

tell Angus we're asking for him.


ta

[fluffydoc]

Hey, you all know me but for my tuppence worth I'm doing Wing Chun in Edinburgh.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Lynne,

yeah somehow we missed you, so sorry pal. A belated welcome to the boards you already tread so well. Can you give us anything to get our teeth into on the Wing Chun thread, as you seem to be our most practiced member at the moment.

Andy ;)

[fluffydoc]

I'll have a think while I'm on holiday and try to come up with something.

[Spike]

In answer to your queries, in no specific order.
Yes, I`m the guy who met you in Edinburgh and I stand by my proposal that legal defences which rhyme ar the most effective.

I have been training with Angus and he has said he will get in contact as soon as he`s less busy. He says that he`s had some enjoyable fights with you, I assume he meant in competitions but decided not to enquire to far :-)

Lan Jung Kuen, to the best of my knowledge translates as "South China Fist" I shall find out for certain tonight.

[innovatao]

Brian here, aka Inomine (In om in ay), also aka Innovatao.
Webmaster of the Stafford / Cannock / Codsall Lau Gar clubs, and Lau Gar Practitioner :)

[Eddie]

been a while since ive been here...

Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu in the house!!!!!!!

BTW, if im correct, Lam Tsung Kuen would probably translate to Southern Middle Fist or something to that effect. Just depends on which character for tsong you use.
Please send us some more detail on your style, seems pretty interesting.
ciao

[Andy Murray]

Hi Brian, Hi Eddie

Good to see you guys here, us CMA have been getting a little overwhelmed by Karateka and TKDoers of late. Eddie, tell us a bit about CLF if you get a moment please.

Andy

[tuney30]

im new 2 martial arts and you say many clubs have no advertising.How would i find a club with little advertising in my area.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Tuney,

welcome to the forum.

Two things you can do here;

One, is what you have just done, which is post here. If you give us an idea of what you might be looking for, then I'm sure we'll be able to help.

Two, is see if you can find a Martial Arts shop in your area, as these kind of stores usually know who does what in the region.

Good Luck

Andy

[Eddie]

Im not to sure where wolverhampton is, but it definatly sounds like you're somewhere in the UK.

Check out this website www.choyleefut.co.uk and contact the webmaster (Alec) for more info on the best :D kung fu style in the world. There are a few clf schools in the uk, but im not sure where. From my lineage there is one school in Ireland.
Later
Eddie

[Seung Ga Faat]

Hello, I'm a 7-Star Praying Mantis practioner. In the Washington DC area of the USA.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Thomas, and welcome.

So far as I know, you're our only Mantis practitioner on site, so please tell us a little more about the style if you will.

Andy

[wayofthedragon]

Hi, my name is Phillip S., from a small town called Andrews, SC, in the USA (at the moment I'm in Huntsville, AL attending college).

I've studied, Shaolin, and Wing Chun kungfu, about 3 years of wing chun and 1 year of shaolin.

Although I'm a mixed stlyed martial artist; I'm still trying to learn all that I can within the chinese martial arts

[Russ]

Hi,
I train at Ng Gar Tien Wing Chun, Runcorn, Cheshire. Been training for just over 2 years under Sifu Mike Ng. We're a friendly family club with about 20 members.
Also train under 'Yoda' in Guba Doce Pares.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Russ,

welcome to the itsy bitsy Kung Fu section of the forum. Could you possibly find it in your heart to explain a little about your branch of Wing Chun's lineage. Are you guys off the Yip Man branch or someone else?

Hmmmm, tell us some stuff, and I'll let you off with that Triangle choke-out

[YODA]

If I may be so bold ....

(Corect me if I'm wrong guys)

Yip Man > Leung Ting > Nick Smart > Paul Nairn > Mike Ng > Russ.

[Andy Murray]

Begone impure JKD botched together MA person.....I wave my multi-coloured fan in your general direction, this is the Kung Fu Forum, and you do trespass here in peril of your life! ;)

[YODA]

Hehe....

"On March 27th 1981, Jun Fan Gung Fu / Jeet Kune Do was uinducted into the Kuoshu Federation of the Republic of China, making it alegitimate & recognised art such as Tai Chi etc."
.... The Jun Fan JKD Textbook.

Hehehe....

[Andy Murray]

OOooh 1981...how ancient and venerable! ;)

Ah well, someone wrote it, so it must be true.

[YODA]

LOL!

Yeah - it's true. Believe it :D

81 - old huh? Much older than a few arts that i know of that are masquerading as traditional Chinese arts.

[Andy Murray]

Sad, but true :(

Name em and shame em!

[YODA]

Nah - I don't want to upset anyone. It's not in my nature :D

[Russ]

Thanks Yoda for your input re Ng Gar Tien lineage, wasn't too sure of it myself! (How embarrassing!) but sounds spot on to me. Mike?...?

Andy - Shoodavetapped! sure you will get me back now your attending more on a Wednesday ;-)

[Greyghost]

Any more of that lip, dave my young apprentice and its beanie bears in a blender.......

[YODA]

Noooooooooooooo................

(((ZZzzzzzzip!)))

[Light Ng]

Correctamundo Master Yoda. :)

[Andy Murray]

Count on it Russ ;)

Good to see you here Ng, nice signature btw :)

[PantherFist]

Hi everyone, just joined. I'm a Choi Lee Fut practioner(Brilliant style). Have also got a brown sash in Lau Gar(started off with Duncan Pollet in Dunfermline long time ago)

[Cooler]

You will find a few of us on this site have trained with Duncan :)
Welcome to the site.

Cooler

[Eddie]

chaz,
who is your choy lee fut teacher in london?
e

[TkdWarrior]

hmm i just figured it out that TaiChi is not a korean Martial arts but a chinese one so i m here :D ;)
i hav been doing tai chi for some time now, Main styles(yang 24 n Sun Style), why i do it?may be i don't like much workout :D
-TkdWarrior-

[PantherFist]

Hi Eddie,
I train in Newcastle Upon Tyne under Sifu Ng Ho Tak.

[Cheng]

Hello everyone

My name is Cheng I live in Kowloon.

I train some Eagle Claw and Southern Mantis Gung Fu.

Howdy :D

[paihequan]

My name is Ron Goninan and I live in Australia.

The arts I teach are:

* Paihequan Wuyangkuang (Crane-Fist)
* Taiji
* Kikbox (Health & Fitness)
* Kiko, Reiki and Shiatsu

Cheng:

Do you know of any White Crane in your area?

[00SS]

Hi everyone.. i just posted today for the first time in the general area. I am a newbie at 7 star mantis with hopefully some wing chun later. I am from a aikido background with some ju-juitsu/judo mixed in. Looks like i found a good site with some people that love to do what i do.

take care.... i have 2 of my 4 girls not feeling good and i have to take clean and care duty tonight :)

yep, 4 girls, twins are 1, oldest is 6, and my little fighter is 3 :D

Devin.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Chaz, Cheng, Paihequan and OOSS,

I'd like to welcome you all to the boards, and hope that you'll get involved in posting to the general forums as well as the underpopulated (hint hint) Kung Fu forum.

Chaz, we must have crossed gloves at some time???

[Greyghost]

Paihequan,

firstly , hi and welcome to the madness....
secondly can you gives us brief description of Paihequan Wuyangkuang ?

and C.... whats the weather like outside?

[THEGREAT1]

hey me new guy:p

just started lau gar with Greyghost

no previous martial arts experience etc.....but i will achieve greatness :-)...and probably nirvana

[Andy Murray]

Welcome your greatness!

Njoy.

[THEGREAT1]

Cheers will do.

btw can u upload your own avatar to this forum?

i only saw options to choose already available ones before

[Andy Murray]

Yup,
so long as it's 50 by 50, you have that option in your user control panel under; change Avatar!

[paihequan]

Greyghost :

Paihequan Wuyangkuan teaches Crane Fist mainly the Shihequan (Feeding Crane) and Zhonghequan (Ancestral Crane) forms.

[Greyghost]

Thanks, sorry i took so long to reply, just got back from holiday.
i am quite interested in the crane forms , are there any good books or articles that can expand my knowledge?.

thanks again

fraser

[paihequan]

Fraser:

"Zhenzhong Nanpai Shaolin Paihemen Shihequan" (Orthodox/Original Southern Shaolin Style: White Crane Feeding Crane Fist) by Lio Yin-Shan, "San Jiang Paihequan" - (Three Battle White Crane-Fist) by Shihfu Chin Li-Yen, Yongchun White Crane Kuen’ By Hung Ching Fot, White Crane Kuen: Sik Hok Kuen (Eat Crane Boxing) By Lau Yin San, Shaolin Crane Kuen Yuk Tong Hok (Crane in Mountain Hole) By Kim Tin Chu Fu and Fujian Nanquan Congshu White Crane to name but a few.

Unfortunately they are in Chinese. The best book by far in English is Yang Jwing Ming's "Shaolin White Crane: Martial Power & Qigong" .... while not dealing with the fighting aspects of Paihe, it does detail several of the energy systems inherent in the forms of this art.

[Mo Lung]

Yo! More Choy Lee Fut in the house.

I train under Master Chan Yong Fa and Sifu Lane Louie in Chan Family CLF at the Sydney Hung Sing Gwoon.

Check out our style here (http://www.clfma.com).

:)

[Andy Murray]

Welcome Mo Lung,

Look forward to your input.

[sn0w8lade]

Hi everyone!!

Jus found the site an joined it. Lookin good!! :D


I practice Choy Lee Fut wit Sifu Ng Ho Tak in Newcastle.

Why do I train?

Cos if I don,t Sifu will break me :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Andy Murray]

Hi sn0w8lade,

Glad you found us. If we get any more CLF guys in here, there will have to be a matchup with the Lau Gar guys to see who's best :D

Heard good things about CLF in Newcastle.

Njoy!

Andy

[PantherFist]

It's a conspiracy!!

Us Choy Lee Fut practioners are slowly but surely infiltrating this forum, with the goal of taking over.

You Lau Gar boy's your, day's are numbered.

Ha Ha Ha
:D

[baijirong]

How's it goin' everybody?!

I study Norther Shaolin Kung Fu. I've studied other styles before, but Kung Fu just seems to fit me. I've been involved in Martial Arts since I was 9. It's in my blood. There are hardly any local schools here, though. Thank God for the Internet & Mail-order books & videos:)

[Andy Murray]

Welcome to the forum baijirong,

Good to see some more CMA.

Andy

[Mo Lung]

Originally posted by Andy Murray
Hi sn0w8lade,

Glad you found us. If we get any more CLF guys in here, there will have to be a matchup with the Lau Gar guys to see who's best :D
Andy

As if there's any question!

What do you say to a caged deathmatch, all the Lau Gar versus all the CLF in group combat.

Of course, I studied Lau Gar too, so I'll just have to keep fighting till I'm the only one left, to prove a point, then where would the forums be.

Ah, let's all just be friends instead, eh? ;)

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by Mo Lung

Ah, let's all just be friends instead, eh? ;)

Awww shucks!

*Group Hug*

:D

[sn0w8lade]

I got a lump in my throat.

I can really feel the love in here guys
:D :D :D

[YODA]

Hugs? HUGS?

Someone mention HUGS?

(((((Hug)))))

[Andy Murray]

Never mind the hugs, get the beers in, I'm hitting the 'Toon' very soon.

You Newcastle guys ever hit Trillians Rock Club?

I did the sound kit in there, as well as Powerhouse, Sugar and the older Powerhouse.

[sn0w8lade]

Originally posted by Andy Murray
Never mind the hugs, get the beers in, I'm hitting the 'Toon' very soon.

You Newcastle guys ever hit Trillians Rock Club?

I did the sound kit in there, as well as Powerhouse, Sugar and the older Powerhouse.

Trillians aint quite my scene but been to sugar numerous times.

Music alway nice an loud in there although all sonuds the same after copipus amounts of beverages!!!!!

:D

[Mo Lung]

Damn this time difference - I missed out on the hugs!

:)

[sn0w8lade]

Ah don't feel bad................Big HuG :D :D :D

[WhiteWizard]

I'm Andrew and i'm a complete amateur doing Lau Gar but we have all got to start somewhere don't we

[Mo Lung]

Thanks sn0w8lade! :)

White Wizard, don't worry about it. I've been involved in martial arts since I was 12 and I'm still a beginner. We all are, truth be told. Anyone that thinks they've stopped learning or have less left to learn than they already know is really missing the point! ;)

[SliqueRICK]

hey guys i take the toaist form of xingyi quan im going to start the shoalin form after i master this form im learning from a student of sifu james mcneal this art is alsom known as hsing-i

[Trent Tiemeyer]

I train Shaolin Fu and Tai Chi under Mr. Dwayne Lewis II.

[Andy Murray]

Hi guys and welcome. We're getting a nice spread of different CMA systems here now, so feel free to tell people about your systems please.

[Chinwoo-er]

I believe I owe it to people here an apology for not introducing myself. As you can see, I studying under the Chinwoo Athetic association
Lets see. I have got 15 years of MA training. Which involves the following styles

Goju ryu karate
TKD
Mizong
Lohan
Baji
Piqua
Eagle Claw
7* mantis
Wing Chun ( Yip man style )
Yang Tai Chi

[Andy Murray]

Thanks for that Chinwoo-er, here's the official welcome to the boards.

You've got a good spread of practice there.

Whereabouts are you based, as your profile is a bit spartan?

[JessyBlue]

I train Hung Kuen Shaolin Kung Fu under Sifu Bruno Dorp
I also did Judo

[stvn]

I've been training in Lau Gar Kuen at the 'Three Dragons' club in Ayr since the tail end of 2002 and I'm going along to a Taijiquan class next week.
As you can see I'm pretty new to martial arts but now I've started I wish I got off my butt and got involved years ago, but we can't turn the clock back, so onwards & upwards.

[shorinstudent]

hey, i'm dave and i used to train under korean TKD, but now i am being taught (<-- spelled wrong?) shorin kungfu which is basically a system composed of all the other systems, and there are only three schools in existence that teach it! my Grandmaster toured all of china and japan (for 27 years) and trained in the US for 15 and that's our style.

[PeeJ]

I did a for of Karate when I was younger but stopped quite a while back. I'm JUST starting to train in Lau Gar Kung Fu now.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Shorinstudent & Peter,

Welcome to the forum. :D

[Greyghost]

hey STVN,

say hi to allan for me....i'll come by real soon.

regards

[Greg-VT]

Hey.

Newcastle Aus.
I started Yip Man Wing Chun Kung Fu around last November. Had few lessons, then stopped. I started again two weeks ago, and I'm luven it. :D

[SSJ1_Katrina]

Hello everyone!

my name is Katrina and i have recently begun practising Li Gar Kung Fu, which as you will know is one of the 5 Gar styes that can be traced back to somewhere before the burning of the Fukien Temple (spelling?).

with blessings,
Katrina

[cyrk007]

I'm chris and have trianed Hung Gar for 3 years

[Andy Murray]

Hi Chris, welcome to the Boards :D

Njoy

[Darkflight]

Afternoon, i'm Spike (another one) and I train in Tang Lang Kung Fu (or Kung Fu Tai Ji Meihau Tang Lang Quan, to be precise, it's Plum Blossom Praying Mantis). I train in Nottingham under Sifu Jago Auteri, a student of Master Mario Mandra.

I do Taijutsu as well, but I won't mention that here ;)

Hi :D

[SoKKlab]

Does anyone know of any groups, classes or organisations that are teaching Chin Na as a seperate and complete Martial Art, here in the UK, particularly in London??? And can anybody tell me as to what extent Chin Na is used in their Chinese style? Example Eagle Claw is famous for its Chin Na use and the extant that it uses it. What about your system?

Thanks for your help

[Andy Murray]

Hi Darkflight and Sokklab,

Welcome to you both. :D

Sokklab, I did a little search on Chin Na for you. Try;

http://www.chugarkwon.com/

I don't know them, but I see they are offering a free seminar on the 12th of July. They do say they cover Chin Na, though they seem to be somewhat eclectic. Hey, it's a start. ;)

[SoKKlab]

Thanks Andy,
The Chugarkwon syllabus does seem a bit 'Eclectic', but I'm sure they know what they are doing (I hope so, I don't fancy being Chin Na'd by someone who doesn't...). If I'm not working on that day, I'll check it out. Tis Free after all.

[Sub zero]

HI
I'm a lau gar teacher form Scotalnd.I just joined too.
Could someone please diret me to the topic on Lau gar keun just as i saw it on a search but can't find it now.

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by Sub zero
HI
I'm a lau gar teacher form Scotalnd.I just joined too.
Could someone please diret me to the topic on Lau gar keun just as i saw it on a search but can't find it now.

Hi, and welcome to map!

Is this what you are looking for?;

Lau Gar Fist (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2797)

Could you fill out your profile please Sub Zero.

[Sub zero]

Erm.I can't seem to find the option to do that on this forum.Only read my profile
:s

[Andy Murray]

Look for the red 'user cp' button at the top of the forum page, clicl on that, and then the 'edit profile' button.

Helps if I know your location etc. ;)

[Wong Fei Hung]

Sub Zero I think you are suppose to go to the button on top called User CP then go to Edit Profile , that is what I think.

Oh yeah , does anyone know Shaolin Please got
Wong Fei Hung's Shaolin Club...

[Greyghost]

where about are you in scotland sub-zero?

welcome to the boards...btw.

[HearTheLionRoar]

Hi, I'm Chris from Chester, and I'm studying Tibetan Senga Ngwa Lion's Roar Lama Kung-Fu, as well as some Praying Mantis and Hop Gar thrown in there for good measure.

It's a style taught to me by Steve Richards (taught in turn by Si-Fu Kenneth Liu-Ying-Wah).

Just thought I'd register my style on the forum, as it's quite unusual.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Chris and welcome.

It certainly does sound unusual and interesting, so please feel free to ignore the cynics with the Llama jokes and tell us more!

I get thru Chester every now and then, and wouldn't mind a look sometime if that would be ok?

[Wong Fei Hung]

Hey Andy, what type of your martial arts do you take?

I was wondering because it seems like you know alot
of martial arts and styles.

Also how come most people here are in the UK?

[Andy Murray]

Hi WFH,

I've been trying to pick up Doce Pares Eskrima with Yoda when I can. I also train Wing Chun which I love.

I know a little about a lot of things, call me an enthusiast. ;)

I'll try anything once though, more if I like it.

I dunno why so many from UK, maybe cos it's so much smaller than the US, we travel to meet other members, and drag our mates and their mates onto the forum.

Get your mates on here too. :D

[Wong Fei Hung]

I know a little bit about Martial Arts but none of my friends are intrested in the martial arts.

Do you have any techniques you can share with us in wing chun?

[Sporran]

At Andy's invitation, I'm giving a bit of who / what / why....

My name is Richard, I am currently a coach under Nick Smart. I've been doing wing tchun (autodefence) since 1995, teaching it since 1998. Absolutely love the style. It does exactly what it says on the tin :) If I loved it any more, my wife would leave me.

Background:--
I also dabble in kali / JKD with Jerry Linskell in Dundee. He's a graduate instructor under Rick Young, and an apprentice instructor under Dan Inosanto. Good teacher. I don't train hard enough to give it justice, but I really enjoy the kali. Very complementary to the wing tchun. Through Jerry and his guys, I have been exposed to the submission world (ooer, missus), and have learned some useful tricks.

Prior to the wing tchun, I was a shodan in Shotokan karate (yes, I even enjoyed kata!), and had done some japanese ju jitsu. I have also done the wandering bit, and have less than a year's experience respectively in aikido, shorinji kempo, kickboxing, and tai chi.

I am currently enjoying training immensely, and have found that the only true measure of a martial artist is performance - either as a fighter or teacher. Grades don't accurately reflect much at all, I find.

Cheers,
Rich

[Andy Murray]

Hi Rich,

Thanks for the open and honest introduction.

You'll do fine!

Welcome to the forum

Andy

[SteveJKDUK]

I believe I briefly introduced myself in another thread, but did not go into my background. I might as well do it here!

My name is Steve, and I am living and working in Stoke-on-Trent as a Web Developer/Intranet Manager. I'm 26 in a few days time which means I past the mid-twenties point in my life and need to grow up!

I am currently training in JKD under my Sifu Dave Carnell at the Impact Martial Arts Academy in Stoke-on-Trent. I also cross-train in Kali, Silat and Grappling at the same school.

Prior to that, I trained in Hung Kune for 3 years in Liverpool. Since I love JKD so much now, I wouldn't go back to training in this anymore, but this was the art that put me on the martial arts path. Does anyone else train in this?

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and I hope we can learn from each other!

[Sub zero]

I know a hong keun gau instructor near me.
Is that the same style?I'm not sure about the spelling.

[wutan]

Hi,
Practice Tai Chi Chuan based on Wu style,includes weapons-spear,broadsword,and straight sword.
Hand forms,pushing hands,martial applications and nei kung internal strength exercises. Tai Chi chuan should be a complete art if taught in it fullness.Very good from a health point of view and probably one of the most misunderstood martial arts around.

[Andy Murray]

Pleased to have you on board Wutan. Enjoy the forum

Vague recognition bells are ringing in my head......Penicuik?.....Penicuik?..........Tom?... .......darn it's gone.

[white_sash]

Hi All!
im anthony and im practising lau gar kung fu in derby, england.
i only started 3 months ago so im a white sash.
i do martial arts cause i belive that it makes you into a better person.

more confidence
self defence
fitness
health/beauty

im glad i have found this forum because it looks more local then the one i used to be which was mainly dominated by americans.
ok bye for now

[PantherFist]

Welcome Anthony to the forum, you will find a lot of people here have practised Lau Gar at one time or another, me included.(Brown Sash)

Hope you enjoy your training

Chaz:D

[white_sash]

thx m8

[Smee]

Hi folks

Paul from Dundee - doing Hung Gar and Lau Gar.

I like martial arts cos I've a baldy heid and it fits my hardman image.....

Cheers
:D

[Andy Murray]

Hi Paul,

Welcome to the boards.
There's an older thread called Scottish Lau Gar check in you might want to look up. ;)

[AgentX]

HELLO!
Name's Alex Haiden.
Wing Chun fighter.

[inacan]

Hi,

Name's Shaun
Bok Fu Pai Kung Fu

[jmd161]

Hey everyone,

I'm jeff from Miami,Fl and i study Sil Lum Hak Fu Moon (Shaolin Black Tiger).


jeff:)

[SliqueRICK]

nomatter where i go there there are dragonslist members

[jmd161]

Yep we're everywhere bro!




jeff:)

[SliqueRICK]

well welcome to martial arts planet bro and ill be in chat in a few min i have some questions about blacktiger kung fu

[jmd161]

Ok no problem



jeff:)

[Cain]

Hey JMD ya bugger :D

Nice to see you here :D

|Cain|

[jmd161]

Hey Cain,


Why did'nt you guy's let me know about this place? :D


Oh i know i'm going to be staying around now.:p


Thanks for the welcome guys!


jeff:)

[Gandhi]

Hi all.
I'm a new member.
I currently train in the Shotokan Karate style, but feel that it is quite 'rigid' and lacks flow.
I am very interested in taking up Kung-Fu, but not sure to which style I will be suited or which is the best to start with.
I stay in Edinburgh, and "Paul Smith" at Marcos gym practising Wing Chun would be my closest club.

I am traveling to Malaysia in about a month for a couple of weeks, and wish to seek Kung-Fu lessons there. I thought it would be good to get real feel for the philosophy.
Does anyone know any teachers in Kuala Lumpur (the capital)?
I had a friend who went and basically lived like a monk for a week in a kind of training course in Kuala Lumpur, so I'm not sure they would take someone who is new to kung-fu.

Andrew G

[jmd161]

Gandhi,

I seem to remember Sifu Wong Kew Kit doing seminars over in Kuala Lumpur.I think there is a Wahnam school over there.I could be wrong ,but i've heard them talk about Malaysia and teaching there.I know one of the Wahnam Instructors so i'll ask him and let you know what he says.


jeff:)

[Smee]

I think Wong Kiew Kit has a representative who has just started teaching in Edinburgh area. His name is Daryll Collett (i think). Check the Wahnam site for details.

Don't know much about him but seems to be the real deal as Wong Kiew Kit has been over a number of times to do seminars etc.

Might be worth a look.

Paul

[chief108]

Originally posted by jmd161
Gandhi,

I seem to remember Sifu Wong Kew Kit doing seminars over in Kuala Lumpur.I think there is a Wahnam school over there.I could be wrong ,but i've heard them talk about Malaysia and teaching there.
yep he's teaching there and you can sign up at his website.
mostly one week courses if I'm correct
Intense kung fu/ taijiquan/ chigung courses....

People are pretty enthousiastic about it, you seem to learn a lot there in one week.

Chief108

[pw2904]

I study a relatively new style of kung fu called Teh Ji Han Jeung Dao, which translated means "the way to perpetual, mental and physical growth. Basically a concept art much like Jeet Kune Do with elements of Thai Boxing, Western Boxing, Russian Sombo, Wing Chun, Escrima etc thrown in. It's by far the best style I have seen and trained in for street situations.

[Ghandi]

Hey all,
I currently study aikido, however i live in an area called Bury.St.Edmunds - Suffolk and i wish to study kung fu because I have read a lot about different martial arts and it seems to have an interesting history and good philosophy behind it.
I was wondering if anyone knew of any clubs in my area because i am having a great deal of trouble finding one thats closer than an hour away.
Please post back

[Ghandi]

ANY replies Pls PLs PLs

[Gandhi]

and I thought my name would be unique...

[Sub zero]

NOt my association, but for lau gar in egland, have a look here.
http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/

Or for a list of cma have a look here.

www.bccma.com
(don't trust the club info it's sometimes wrong, iinsted use the cotact numbers)

[Andy Murray]

OMG Ghandi and a Gandhi. :D
This is going to be terribly confusing.
If either of you want to change your name, contact Cooler by PM.

Re Kung Fu in Bury. St Edmunds;

Name Hung Kuen Kung Fu Association, Bury St Edmunds
Contact Philip Bridges, Instructor
Address

Postcode
Tel. (01284) 764603,

Details Meets: Tuesday & Thursday, 7-9pm County Upper School, Beetons Way, Bury St Edmunds Classical Shaolin Kung Fun (Hung Kuen). Authentic Chinese hand and weapon forms. Five animal/five element techniques. Hay Kung (internal system). Iron Wire techniques. Age: 14+

Good luck.

[Cain]

Erm...Gandhi and Ghandi, you both shoud'nt change your names to mahatama and mahatma ;) [if that's who I think your names refer to...]

Welcome to MAP :D

PS - Thinking of changing my name to 'Cain' will Cooler do it if it's not too much trouble and without having me to sleep with him? :D

|Cain|

[Andy Murray]

LOl @ Cain, how is it supposed to be spelled mate?

Cooler is ABLE :D to change your name to Cain if you ask him nicely by PM.

[Cain]

It spelled the usual Cain by the way...

I will ask him nicely... [not too nicely :D]

Thanx,

|Cain|

[Ghandi]

well considering my name is spelt correctly and the other one is spelt rong mine is stayin and cheers ppl :)

[Gandhi]

Don't think so buddy...
I used to spell mine "Ghandi" until I was corrected by an Indian.

Please visit this page to see someone that agrees with me:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/kinkyturtle/56482.html

Considering its a name on a message board I dont really care how it is spelt.

[Ghandi]

Mate, its a well known fact that t.v is right and the film is called Ghandi and his journals say written by Ghandi so look on the net:) And yea but an american might not know how to spell george bush just cos they are american lol.

[Gandhi]

funny how it was an Indian that told me to spell it Gandhi,

you might be right, don't really care...think I will change my name, coz its going to get confusing anyway

[Gandhi]

ok, just done some research....
the correct spelling is Gandhi FOR SURE.
But it can also be spelt 'Ghandi' or 'Gandi'

...so we are both right, and can end this pointless discussion!!!

[Cain]

Not Gandi!!!! LOL! :)

It means ganda or bad, pathetic that sorta ;)

|Cain|

[KickChick]

Welcome Cain _(no more charlie)

... and to the both of you's Gandi and Ghandi!! :D

[Ghandi]

Ok ok, we are both right! well on a different topic, what does everyone think of Huen Kuen Kung Fu whats it like for self defense and in general?

[Velid]

Alright my name is David or Velid. I do Wing Chun. and actually I am not sure why I started doing martial arts, I just walked in and signed up one day!

[Andy Murray]

Hi Velid,

welcome to Map, nice to see another WC person on here.

Hope you take the time to enjoy the forum. :)

[David]

Hey ppl,

I'm David Antwis and I study Chow Gar Southern Mantis in Plymouth, UK. Nearly six years in and I love it and all it gives me. (Why can't I be lazy AND good at kungfu..?)

We train informally but use traditional methods plus the occasional Inspired Device for solo training. Most of the work is done with partner training, using each other for developing sensitivity, resisting each other for making power come out smooth, and for stamina. We also whack each other a lot. Then we get fixed up with our dit dar jow.

Visually ugly ie no somersaults, headkicks or other aerials, it's a close-in sticky system designed to hit with everything at once and at great speed achieved by not having to retract a fist to hit again. To enable this, we develop short power through the tiny motion of contracting/opening the ribs. Imagine standing on a beach ball - observe that the sides are pushed out. This is how we achieve very short range power. Our main weapon is the phoenix-eye fist though the easiest fist to deploy would be the gao choi hammer-fist. Kicks are allowed but never higher than ribs/abdomen. Ideally, hitting with two hands and kicking with one leg simultaneously.

No actual sparring in class(!)

Excuse my waffling. Anyway, glad to be aboard n catch you all later,

rgds,
David

[tai-gip]

Hey ben done wing chun with good old william cheung and barry pang in melbourne

[DrFord]

daniel ford - multistylist.
Ten Chi Do - 1997- 2003
http://homepage.mac.com/tenchido/

At Ten Chi Do, I specialized in double stick fighting.This school and moreover Sifu will remain my Sigung for life. Around early 2001, this school moved location to a personal residence. The classes were incredible, but small. I decided I would like to fight in a larger school where I could get a little better physical workout to supplement my martial training and joined...

Lang Fa Shaolin Kenpo - 2001-2002

I was with this school for over 1 year, and quickly hired on to teach both the "Little Dragon's Class" and the cardio Kickboxing class. This Sifu here moved out of the area and the search began for another school...

Tat Mau Wong Kung Fu Academy (Choy Lay Fut)
http://www.tatwong.com - 2002 - 2003

I cannot say enough wonderful things about this school. Sifu Wong has the model for any martial arts school. Choy Lay Fut gave me more speed, lower stances, and real San Sao training. I would still be training here, but I moved from San Francisco, CA to Los Angeles, CA.

Currently training-
BuckSam Kong's Siu Lum P'ai Hun Gar Kung Fu
http://www.bucksamkongkungfu.com/

The very exotic Hun Gar Kung Fu style of the "Tiger - Crane" What I love about this system is the animal flavor prevelant in everything. Sifu Kong has also brought in Choy Lay Fut forms such as Si Mu Fa to supplement the often short and choppy Tiger styles. The white crane will forever be my personal favorite, being the most fun to fight with (in my opinion) because people have a hard time dealing with long range attacks in a short range situation. (Lots of built in sweeps and throws...)

there's my novel... enjoy.

Dan

[David]

A lot of enthusiasm there Dan :) Keep it up!

Later,
David

[DrFord]

Will do. I think at this point my body would go into shock if it stopped being pummeled daily...

Dan

[Zu Warrior]

Hello My name is Gary Peebles. I've been studying Jowga and wing chun since i was about 4 years old I just found out about this website and figured why not i'll join. Kung Fu I beleive is in tune with all the functions of the world. Kung Fu is in dancing and aerobics and you name it it in there somewhere. I'ts always been a part of me and it always will be. I hope you all feel the same way send me a message or email. anything. would love to hear from you.

[Andy Murray]

Hi Zu Warrior,

welcome to the forums.

Tell us a bit about Jowga if you would be so kind.

We have a few other members here from Maryland, so I hope you'll feel at home here.

Njoy

Andy

[Darryl]

Hi

I practice Feng Yang Sau Kung Fu / Hard Hand of the Wind

[Seminosukei]

well im 18 and have been training in Kung Fu scince i was three by both my father and master....i am trained in Monkey, Snake, Drunken Monk, Crane and Tiger Claw. Also i have been training myself Jeet Kun Do but i dont know if im doing it all right as ther is nobody that i can find in Australia that is actually truly trained in JKD but if you know of any one please let me know...
Seminosukei

[Greg-VT]

Just a word of advise.... you can't teach yourself JKD. Your better of focusing on something else in your area.

And, Welcome to the forum. :D

[Seminosukei]

oh sorry i will take your advice but the book is really helpfull and it has opened mymind alot thanks for tha help though do you have ne recomendations of a similar art???
Seminosukei

[Holgate]

Originally posted by David
Hey ppl,

I'm David Antwis and I study Chow Gar Southern Mantis in Plymouth, UK. Nearly six years in and I love it and all it gives me. (Why can't I be lazy AND good at kungfu..?)



I'm thinking of starting Chow Gar myself, as there is a class running in Exeter on wednesdays...same instructor by chance?

I am going to wait a little before I start because I am having physio on my back and want to get their advice first, also don't want to over extend myself too soon. Does sound good though and I'm willing to give it a shot alongside my TKD training.

Martial arts seem to be the only thing I am really good at so worth building on that.

[David]

Hi Holgate

I go to the Exeter class when I can. The teacher there Rob Dawkins is incredible. He's good on healing aswell. Make sure he knows about any injury, perhaps he can help.

Exeter class is good in that it's small and the room is nice and big. Nice bunch of ppl.

In the Plymouth class, we have a TKD instructor as a regular the last 2 or 3 years.

Call Rob on 207251 for a chat.
Class is Wednesday 7.30pm at Whipton Community Hall (it's a church), Pinhoe Road.

Well! I may see youthere :)

Rgds,
David

PS Bring spare arms... :D

[Holgate]

excllent, many thanks, I will try and get along there this wednesday, in the meantime I will try and give Mr Dawkins a call :)

I have been told that Kung Fu is something I can give a go as long as I don't push myself too hard for the time being and that it should help so that's good to hear.

Think I will be giving it a go :)

[eagerbeaver]

hi there i have just started WC after doing a bit of karate. I thought WC would be good for my body type as i am not flexible in the legs and cant rely kick over my waist with power and therefore wanted to study a close in style. also not getting any younger (30yo) and wanted a style that didnt rely on alot of strength to perform.

[David]

Pain will give you flexibility and strength ;) And less of the 30 being old, if you don't mind :D

Rgds,
David

[eagerbeaver]

sorry david, 30 is not old but it is not the youngest age to start a martial art either

[PFloyd148]

i started wing tsun (by the spelling you should know it's leung ting style ;) ) about 4 weeks ago. real cool stuff, i enjoy it alot so far!

[CKava]

Hello everyone,

Im completely new to the forum so this is a general hello. Ive been practicing Wing Chun for about 2 years in Northern Ireland and I just spent the last 5 months visiting different schools over in Canada and America. And Ive now just arrived in Central London for univeristy and Im looking for a school and people to do some training with.

[Xia]

Wing Chun Gung-Fu, Jeet Kune Do, and Mantis

I learned much of the Wing Chun, as an advanced student, and Jeet Kune Do, I am water...currently I am forming moves of Mantis and JKD, for shorter and longer movement.

[2ral]

ive been doing wing chun for about 2 months now, and i find it very enjoyable. if you're loking for classes in north or central london you can chek out http://www.kamonwingchun.com or http://ukwingchun.com.

[sholo86]

I practice Teoul Moon Kung Fu. A Chinese M/A system that was founded in Korea. If you're curious about the system, check out the website "teoulmoon.com". So far I have enjoyed practicing kung fu and its benefits. I have always been interested in kung fu since I was little. I guess that's probably why other M/A systems (judo, tae kwon do, and karate), didn't really appeal to me when I studied it wayyy back when...

[jmd161]

Originally posted by sholo86
I practice Teoul Moon Kung Fu. A Chinese M/A system that was founded in Korea. If you're curious about the system, check out the website "teoulmoon.com". So far I have enjoyed practicing kung fu and its benefits. I have always been interested in kung fu since I was little. I guess that's probably why other M/A systems (judo, tae kwon do, and karate), didn't really appeal to me when I studied it wayyy back when...


That's a pretty interesting website.I'd never heard of Teoul Moon Kung Fu before you posted that.You're learning it in the US?

Jeff:)

[andoru]

I'm Taijiquan but soon to be a Wing Chun practitioner

[lolipop]

Hi
I am new to both Wing Chun and this forum. I had visited here quite a few time so I thoght I better join! Its really nice to see lots of wingchunners and a good mix of people from other styles here.
Look forward to learn heaps from you all.

[David]

Welcome, ppl :)

Andoru, I'm interested to hear about the transition from taiji to wing chun. I thought ppl who start with taiji don't go anywhere else... I expect your taiji will take you fast into an understanding of a new style. I look forward to hearing about it.

Rgds,
David

[Shou Tu]

Hello all my name is Aaron, i live in Central California, USA. I study a rare art Called Shou Shu. It is Manderin Chinese for Fighting Way of the Beasts. Is based on the seven animal fighting system(Bear, tiger, mongoose, mantis, crane, cobra, dragon) from Da Mo the taoist monk so often referred to in lineage. It was taught in the Wu Tang mountains before he went to the shoalin Temples.

It was taught to Our Late but not forgotten Da' Shifu Moore Sr. there were only two families that knew the art in San Fran china town. It was a secretly guarded art. It wasnt taught to anyone who wanted to know outside of the Chinese families that knew it.

you can learn more on the history at www.shengchikungfu.com/history.shtml

a lot of the history past Da' Shifu Moore Sr. is in speculation and really i believe is held tightly by the family. Shengchikungfu is not affiliated with Moores Shou Shu. the Shun Shifu was taught by Da' Shifu Moore Sr. but left shortly after his passing to newer endeavors and paths.

Da' Shifu Moore Jr. carries on his fathers teaches as well as all the other black belts in Shou Shu.

Salute,

Aaron

[Jeff Burger]

I do a mix of arts including CMA.

My main CMA is Nam Kune Bok Tui ( Southern Fist Northern Leg).
Id say its less of a style and more a kick boxing concept...kind of like JKD.

It takes from Choy Lay Fut, Tam Tui, Wing Chun, Xing Yi, Tai Chi and Shuai Chiao.

I have also one some Long Fist, Mantis, Tai Chi and weapons.

I didnt like CMA for along time. Most of the CMAist I meet just couldnt fight.
But I wanted to do some Wing Chun and some of the Chinese weapons.
After awhile CMA grew on me.
I went to China cause it was cheaper than Japan.
Currently I have made 7 trips to China, I usually go July and August every year.

Tam Tui
Many people are familiar with the form.
I dont remember the form anymore but I really like the combat applications of Tam Tui kicks.
I would compare it to Wing Chun for the legs.
Until Tam Tui my kicking skill was very limited...just kick harder or faster and a couple a set ups and fakes.

Jeff

[Hakko-Ryu]

I just started Baji Quan. Anyone else into Baji? or familiar with it? Awesome power!!!

[Xia]

Wing Chun Gung-Fu, Mantis, and Jeet Kune Do...I very well rounded.

[sholo86]

Originally posted by jmd161
That's a pretty interesting website.I'd never heard of Teoul Moon Kung Fu before you posted that.You're learning it in the US?

Jeff:)

Sorry for the late reply JMD161...been busy :)

Received my initial training here in the U.S. (Bellevue, NE) and earned my 1st DAN while stationed at OSAN AB, South Korea under Grandmaster Yim.

We do not have a lot of schools here in the US. So far, I've only heard of two Teoul Moon schools; one is in PA (USA Hq WTMKFA) and the other in MS.

Training solo right for my 2nd DAN. With guidance from our head instructor in PA.

[SliqueRICK]

Originally posted by Hakko-Ryu
I just started Baji Quan. Anyone else into Baji? or familiar with it? Awesome power!!! Baji rocks especially the Liu He Da Qiang (Six harmony long spear) from what i have read baji has alot of similar to xingyi

[white_sash]

wow never heard of that style..
what do you guys think of lau gar kung fu ?

[1druid1]

Hi All

Just saying hello, I have been doing Chinese Kickboxing for about 2 years with Rober Smith, and just started doing Kung Fu with him, keep on forgetting the name of the style, oops but it includes the form Chop Choy. I also study Goju-Ryu karate.

Regards

1druid1

[David]

Hi druid, is this Robert W Smith?

Rgds,
David

[1druid1]

Hi

to be truthfull not sure if he has a middle initial, but he is based in Scotland, and runs Temple Martial Arts.

http://www.templekickbox.freeserve.co.uk

Regards

1druid1

[Andy Murray]

Hi,
commonly referred to as Rab Smith, Lan Jung Kuen is a spin off of UK Lau Gar. One of three, possibly four groups in Scotland.

[KungFuGrrrl]

I study Wing Chun, Tai Chi Chuan, because they are based on redirection and deflection i do not need to use or accept brute force ( I have many injuries, arthritis in spine, ruptured disc,)......They are in close and quick styles. I have used them in real life situations and I am very happy with the styles.

[wingchun01]

Hello, I have been studying Wing Chun for around a year after previously training in Judo for 3 years. I enjoy WC because I feel it is something anyone can learn, regardless of age, skill, size etc. My training so far has consisted of Siu Lim Tao, Chi Sao, basic blocks and striking techniques and some Shaolin Monkey form. I am curious as to what training drills some of you other WC students have used early in your WC training careers ?

[Andy Murray]

Hi wingchun01, welcome to the forum.

Check out the Wing Chun threads in this forum and see where your question fits in.

[Aravi]

I'll make my requisite introductory post :)

Student of Wing Chun Kung Fu, took it up earlier this year (have been studying it for 4-5 months).

Enjoying it alot, it fits me unexpectedly well :).

[Anonymouse]

Hello, Im a newcomer here. Im from california, I have studied in the past: karate, a little judo, and tai kwon do. I recently plunged into the kung fu world after my brother decided to take it up (I cant have him know something that I dont ;) ). Im learning wing chun, and a little hung gar and am looking into mantis and other forms. Also Ive been reading up on tai chi ch'aun and US military combat. There arent any schools around where I live, so I have to study from books and videos and what ever I can find online. Anyway, hello all!

[af_sting]

Hello people of MAP,

I’ve study in many different schools and many different styles, but have only ever had an affinity with one -- Teoul Moon Kung Fu. From reading other posts I know Andy has a hang-up with Korean and Chinese words being mixed, to which I say I could care less. The name Teoul Moon was adopted by Shifu Chon Song Shing. It was suggested to him by one of his tang lang quan masters as an umbrella term, instead of saying I teach Tai Ji Quan, Ba Gua Zhang, Mei Hua Tang Lang Quan, Tai Ji Mei Hua Tang Lang Quan, etc. You see, Shifu Chon Song Shing was ravenous for martial arts instruction, so whenever he heard of a famous kung fu master, he’d travel to meet and learn from them. Given the mass exodus of martial arts masters leaving red China, he had no shortage of people to learn from. Since he lived in Korea, a Korean name seemed appropriate, but it in no way changes the heritage of the system. To continue the history lesson, Shifu Chon Song Shing’s protégé is Shifu Yim Hon-Suk, the grandmaster of Teoul Moon Kung Fu. Shifu Chon Song Shing is currently retired from teaching gong fu and spends most of his time in China studying spiritual Qi Gong.

The Teoul Moon system contains several unique forms (developed by Shifu Chon in cooperation with some of his teachers), but mainly consists of a diverse set of forms and techniques from multiple systems. The relatively small amount I’ve learned is probably a fraction of the amount Shifu Chon Song Shing has forgotten, but it’s not insignificant either.

Incidentally, if any of you ever go to Korea, I’d encourage you to stop in and say hello to Grand Master Yim. He enjoys meeting people of all systems and styles and he speaks very good English, along with some Mandarin.

Also, I’ve enjoyed reading about all the different systems people have posted on. I don’t think any one system is superior, rather I feel it is the person who makes the difference.

-Ray

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by af_sting
From reading other posts I know Andy has a hang-up with Korean and Chinese words being mixed, to which I say I could care less.

Hey join a forum and have a go, that's the spirit. ;)

No hang up as such, I just found it odd.

But hey, we're all learning right?

Welcome to the forums. :D

[sholo86]

Hey a fellow Teoul Moon Kung Fu practicioner...welcome! Sent you a private mail..let's chat.

Lots of experience in these forums from different MA background have fun at it :)

[Matt_Bernius]

Hi,

My core art is called "Wan Yi Chuan" (Myriad Changing Fist). The overall goal of the system is to train it's practioners to adapt and flow in all situations.

Wan Yi Chuan is a modern interpretation of a small Chinese family system called Tai Quo (or at least that's my understanding of the spelling). We utitlize different animal personas (in particular tiger, crane, monkey, and snake) to traverse the different fighting ranges. Tai Quo also has concepts from the Chinese interal arts built into it (though those concepts were never explicity called out. My Sifu has only recently begun to discover them as a by product of learning Ba Gua). On top of all that, Wan Yi Chaun has also been influenced by Wing Chun, Kali, Aiki Jujitsu, and BJJ.

Outside of WYC, I've also studied Wing Chun (for a little over a year), Choi Li Phat (many moons ago) and I'm currently learning Hsing Yi.

- Matt

[af_sting]

Hello Andy,

No offense intended and thank you for welcoming me to MAP. This is a very well-done forum and I appreciate you guys moderating it. I've had some pretty interesting and entertaining reading on here over the last few days.

Hey there Sholo86,

There are not many of us Teoul Moon practitioners out there. Yes, this is a very diverse and interesting forum and I think it'll be useful in answering many questions that I have.

Talk to you all soon,
-Ray

[af_sting]

Hello Matt,

Sounds like an interesting system you're in. It's good to hear your teacher is furthering himself still. One of the things that I've noted in many instructors is a reluctance to learn, especially outside their own system, once they start teaching. I'm not sure if it's an ego thing or a time issue, but it prevalent at many schools.

I like the goal of your system. I believe what one develops in kung fu bleeds over into every facet of your life. I'm not trying to get metaphysical, I just mean, for example, that training your body in a kung fu system allows it to react better to other situations, whether it's soccer or rock-climbing or avoiding a car (true story). From what little TKD and Karate I’ve experienced, I do not think they are quite the same at preparing the body. I mean you still get fit, and get benefits, but Kung Fu (at least the few systems I’ve worked with) tends to develop fluidity in the body that allows it to adapt easily. I’m not trying to slam any other system, just pointing out an observation. Any discussion on this would be welcome.

-Ray

[Noob]

Finally signing the register, I study Wing Chun in Palmers Green, under Sifu Ian Morris. I'm there on Tuesdays, on Wednesdays I'm usually not (other commitments), only recently started - three weeks. But enjoying it, and feeling completely shattered at the end of the session.

I like the style, not too complicated which makes it easier for me to learn.

[Matt_Bernius]

Af_sting,

Thanks for the kind words! In our school we often describe the martial arts as a physical manifiestation (or interpretation) of a philisophical ideal. When you think about them that way they can be applied to everything in life.

As far as whether that type of ideal exists in non Chinese arts, I firmly believe it does. I think any true student of an art (martial or otherwise) or science will find that the lessons learned in thier feild apply to every other aspect of their lives. Take what Musashi wrote in Book of Five Rings: once he understood the way of heiho then all other ways opened up to him.

Oh, and yes, it's great to have a teacher who is also a student. The day you stop learning is the day you start to die in my opinion.

- Matt

[KungFuJoe]

Greetings, I am currently studying Shoalin-do Kung Fu and Tai Chi Chuan I'm a blue belt in Kung Fu and a Yellow Sash in Tai Chi. I am in the Austin Texas area.

Kungfu Joe

[RubyMoon]

Hello everyone! (salute)

My previous style was Shaolin Chuan, a five animal style. I studied under Sifu John Morrow. This school was quite westernized and incorporated many elements borrowed from other styles. The philosophy of this is that Shaolin Chuan is too difficult for beginners to learn without some former conditioning and training. Students would begin by learning a rather generic martial art form, and gradually be introduced to Shaolin techniques. The first of the five animal forms, bow-men (the leapord) was learned at blue-belt level, and only at this point were you considered to be a student of Shaolin Chuan. You would not be allowed to wear kung-fu style clothing until you achieved this level. The other animals followed: lung-men (dragon), hu-men (tiger), sere-men (snake), and hok-men (crane). Whether you agree with this method of instruction or not, it was effective and produced many excellent martial artists. I still feel a certain degree of loyalty to my old school.

I now study My Jhong Law Horn ("lost track") under the excellent instruction of Sifu Leng Tang. This is a very challenging style, but with great rewards for the patient student. Unlike my previous style, this style is taught in a more traditional way. The lineage of sifus, masters and grand masters is well-documented and thus the style is kept reasonably pure. My Jhong Law Horn is more difficult and requires greater flexibility than my previous style. There are many low stances and high jumps. In one moment you may be attacking your opponent from front and above, the next from behind and below. The more I learn of My Jhong Law Horn, the more I love.

In my travels I have also picked up a few elements of other styles. I once learned the King Mantis form from a sifu in Denver, although, sadly, I have long since forgotten it. I have also studied some Arnis (a Phillipino stick-fighting art) and its close relative, Serrada (not sure about the spelling). In high school I picked up some Judo, as well. I enjoy and appreciate all these styles, but my heart and loyalty has always been to kung fu.

[af_sting]

Hello Heather,

Welcome to MAP. I have always had mixed feelings about watering-down a system to make it easier. On the one hand it opens the door to people who may not have persevered through a tougher introduction. On the other, it allows people into the system who may not have the right qualities for being a martial artist. I also worry about people using marketing gimmicks to lure people into paying more. When you say they don’t allow people to wear kung fu clothes until they reach a certain level, alarm bells go off in my head. Of course it could be the proverbial carrot to motivate students, so I won’t be too quick to judge (actually I won’t judge at all since it’s not my place).

I’ve always been of the opinion that rank and status means less than the dyes used to color a belt black. Although some derivatives of my style use belts, it’s all a marketing ploy to me. People want to have a visible sign of their status or efforts. I suppose if it motivates people then fair enough, but I know some devious individuals that have made the whole belt and uniform bit a lucrative endeavor, at the expense of the reputation of martial arts as a whole.

Regardless, I’m glad you’ve found success and happiness in your training and I’m looking forward to your inputs on the forum.

-Ray

[RubyMoon]

Originally posted by af_sting
Regardless, I’m glad you’ve found success and happiness in your training and I’m looking forward to your inputs on the forum. Thank you for the warm welcome, Ray. :)

About the belt system...

I too have seen the unscrupulous use of belt systems as a way to generate income. My old school was not one of these by any stretch of the imagination. While we did indeed employ a belt system, each step was earned with sweat and genuine accomplishment, not money. Nobody was promoted until they were ready, and just surviving the test was an accomplishment worthy of pride. Sifu tested more than just our fitness to advance, he tested our spirit. To this day, sometimes when I find myself in a difficult situation I think back to my belt tests and realize if I could get through those, then I can accomplish anything. Indeed, that spirit has carried me through some personal challenges most people would back down from.

[Shou Shu Girl]

Hello All,

I live in California and I have been studying Shou Shu for about 6 months. I am a low orange belt and still working really hard. I love Shou Shu, but it is a rare form of Martial arts therefore not a whole lot of people know about it. Anyone who studies Shou Shu or did sometime in the past please email me. I would love to have someone to talk to about this awesome art.

cyberpuppy_123@yahoo.com

Thanks! :)

[Sub zero]

Hi welcome to the forum!

Is shou shu rare?
I assumed it wasn't as there are shou shu guys everywhere on the forums.

[dashao]

hello people

I live in Dublin and am studying shaolin long fist, white crane and some chin na have been for about 2 years now and am having fun .Also started tai chi chuan which is really cool and vicious yes i said vicious honestly it is stop laughing.







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[hwardo]

Hi all,
I practice Northern Shaolin at this point, and we are working on Tan Tui, the Monkey ground form, and Mantis broadsword. I also practice yang style tai chi. And I agree, it can be vicious!

[Shou Shu Girl]

I only know of two Shou Shu "guys" on the forums so far, but then again I am very new to this site. I know of Shou Shu Blue, who has posted here, and of shoushuer who posted here but in a different forum all about Shou Shu. I have not seen any other Shou Shu Practicioners here yet.

[Shaolin Dragon]

My main style is a fairly rare southern Shaolin called Mok ka (I believe it may also be known as Mok Gar but don't know if it is the same), as well as Wing Chun, Tai Chi Chuan and Aikido

[Andy Murray]

Nice to see so many new CMA faces here of late.

Welcome one and all!

[Guerilla Fists]

Originally posted by Shou Shu Girl
I only know of two Shou Shu "guys" on the forums so far, but then again I am very new to this site. I know of Shou Shu Blue, who has posted here, and of shoushuer who posted here but in a different forum all about Shou Shu. I have not seen any other Shou Shu Practicioners here yet.

Me, Maverick, Brown Flow are all from the same Studio in Sacramento. I've been doing it for about three months, a little less than three months. Right now working on getting some purple on this belt. see you at camp. :)

[Sub zero]

lol 8 fld path. Just realised what your sig was. What a great web site (with the worst music ever)

[Guerilla Fists]

Originally posted by Sub zero
lol 8 fld path. Just realised what your sig was. What a great web site (with the worst music ever)
that's my friend showing off, he's a lot older and almost done with puberty, which is braggable.

[David]

It's a great site and I LOVE the music. Sometimes I have it playing in the background while I surf elsewhere!

Shaolin Dragon, a fellow student of mine came from Mok Gar. Whereabouts are you? One of my general MA Intro books has a section on Mok Gar and I like the look of it in that it doesn't seem too far removed from the way I study, except for the legs.

Rgds all,
David

[Shaolin Dragon]

I am living on the Isle of Wight; there are two Mok ka classes on the Island, one taught by my sifu and the other taught by one of his students. There is another local class that claims to teach Mok ka, but it is not recognised by my sifu.

[David]

My mate comes from there :) Don't know which school he was at but he's over on the mainland at Uni now.

Rgds,
David

[Taipan]

Well, I'm new this is my first post and I study Foshan Wing Chun, Its the Wing Chun Yip Man taught to our Master Lun Kai in Foshan before he moved to Hong Kong. Its not a lot different to the well known Hong Kong version.

[Sub zero]

Originally posted by Shaolin Dragon
There is another local class that claims to teach Mok ka, but it is not recognised by my sifu.

Just out of interest.Was he taught by your sifu?
Or is he form a different "lineage"?

[Shaolin Dragon]

Ok, you will regret asking this...

The first Sifu I trained with had been a student of my current Sifu. Two of his senior students got a bit big for their boots and the club split because of this. Now those two students are no longer on the Island, and as I understand, THEIR students now teach the class, my first Sifu now no longer teaches and my current Sifu runs his own class.

Due to the politics inherent in the MA world, my Sifu is unable to do anything to stop this class calling itself Mok ka.

Mok ka (Gar) is such a rare style here in the UK, I do not believe that their are any classes that do not ultimately come from Master Charles Chan, who originally brought the style to England.

[jimmytofu]

Hi all,
I'm an ex-Taekwondo (4yrs) practioner, but hey.. I saw the error of my ways. Now up to 3 and half years of fairly traditional Wing Chun and Yang style Tai Chi, also keen on Nunchaku and becoming interested in pressure points. Based in North Yorkshire.. bye-eck.

[Sub zero]

Shaolin dragon. Why shouldn't they call themselves mok ka/ga/gar? It's the name of their style not their school.

Unless they do something different......

[Shaolin Dragon]

It isn't. It is loosely based upon Mok ka but the current teachers of the class do not have nearly enough experience to teach Mok ka, even though they might be experienced in other MA. If I were to start a class claiming to teach Wing Chun, even though I have only been doing it for six months myself, clearly I would not be able to teach Wing Chun, even though I might be teaching excellent SD.
It is one of the problems with having non-standardised or regulated MA. Any "cowboy" can start up their own club and no-one can do anything to stop them.

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by Shaolin Dragon
It isn't. It is loosely based upon Mok ka but the current teachers of the class do not have nearly enough experience to teach Mok ka, even though they might be experienced in other MA. If I were to start a class claiming to teach Wing Chun, even though I have only been doing it for six months myself, clearly I would not be able to teach Wing Chun, even though I might be teaching excellent SD.
It is one of the problems with having non-standardised or regulated MA. Any "cowboy" can start up their own club and no-one can do anything to stop them.

Hi SD, this isn't really the kind of thread to be discussing this, but having survived something similar, I'd be interested in discussing it, just perhaps on another thread.

Master,Sifu,Student! (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2389)

[edz]

Hi all,

I'm currently training Lau Gar Kung Fu, and really love it!

Used to do Ju-Jitsu, but it wasn't my type of thing, although I use it all the time with Chin Na... Missing Ju-Jitsu now :S

Wanna take up some boxing too.

Oh yeah... before taking up Lau Gar, I wanted to do Wushu, but there were no classes about.

[Greg-VT]

Welcome to MAP Edz.

How long have you been training in Lau Gar?

[edz]

Thanks Ving Tsun

I've been training for about 8 months, I'm on my blue sash.. will be grading next February/March :)

[Sub zero]

Hi edz.
I study Lau gar and Ju jistu myslef 9and some hung gar).

I find that the JJ helps me to see alot morein aplicatins and chi na aswell.welcome to MAP

[edz]

thanks Sub zero,

yeah i found JJ helped me a lot with chin na too.. not sure what morein is, but im sure it'll help me too! lol.

[Sub zero]

lol
Soz that was ment to read "more in". Oh well. 'l get use t my rubbish tping skills. I type far to fast for my own good.

[incubus]

I train Mon Lung kung fu . It's Dragon style kungfu and quite rare. My sifu got his tution from Malaysian Leong Fu


www.gaffierokungfu.cjb.net

[Xuesheng]

Sorry I didn't post an official intro before. I've been training in traditional and contemporary wushu as well as Yang and Chen style taijiquan (empty hand, jian, and tui shou) for about three years now. The traditional style I study is called Tien Shan Pai. Recently, I've started learning Liu He Ba Fa, which is difficult, but a lot of fun.

I have my bachelor's degree, but have gone back to school for a degree in Chinese studies. I've just finished my first semester. Trying to go to China for a year for intensive language (and MA training, of course) next fall.

Xuesheng

[El Tejon]

Wing Chun Kuen and Seven Star Praying Mantis with Qin Na (Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming's system) grafted on.

Good to be here.:)

[Sub zero]

Good name incubus

[Hot Sauce]

Hi

I've been studying the Leung Ting Wing Tsun system for about 4 months and I think it's great.

[luis]

hello

I'm new here, just want to say hi.
I've been practicing some nei cha kung fu for a few months now, love it...

ok

Luis D.

[lamegrappler]

Shuai Jiao,a little northern shaolin weapons,and a little bit of some other style of kung fu that i'm not sure of the name yet.

[lamegrappler]

Shuai Jiao kung fu.

[blackenedwings]

I practice Wing Chun Gung Fu. I practice it because of the straightforward and aggressive approach it offers. The lack of techniques, but principles I don't have to think about during a fight appeals to me also.

[Kung Who?]

I've been taking Shaolin Do Kung Fu for a little over two years now, and I really enjoy the flexibility of the style. There's years of expereince and tradition, countless animal forms and weapon styles, and not to mention all the people involved in the school are great people.

[PantherFist]

Welcome Kung Who?

Is it just me, or do the pictures on your web site look a little strange(a kung fu school kitted out in karate gi's):D

[haloloden]

I began training in classical Southern Kung Fu at an early age which makes me somewhat bias, but though my many years of training since then I have studied many different styles includingTae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Doo, Jeet Kune Do, Lohan Shaolin (Northern System), Muay Thai, Aikido, Judo, Ju-Jitsu, Shotokan, Kenpo, etc.... And in my opinion I have to say that studying many Martial Arts like I have done is the best if you want to be a knowledgeable fighter. If you want to get a Black Belt for bragging rights do something simple like Tae Kwon Do. If you wish to study the Martial Arts for enlightenment and personal and spirtual growth maybe an internal system would be best, i.e. Ba Qua, Tai Chi, or Hsing Yi Chaun. But if you want to learn the Martial Arts for the purpose of defending yourself and others, then find what works best for you. I have to say that as far as realistic combat training... I would recommend either Krav Maga, Ju-Jitsu, or good old fashion Boxing. Learn a bit of each if possible and its not about mastery of a single art, its about mastery of yourself. Sincerly Eric S. Loden P.S. If you have any questions or comments please e mail me. And if you are looking for instruction I also teach, or can recommend someone I know and trust.

[reptile]

Hi, I practice Wing Chun in Salzburg(Austria).

[Guerilla Fists]

Originally posted by Kung Who?
I've been taking Shaolin Do Kung Fu for a little over two years now, and I really enjoy the flexibility of the style. There's years of expereince and tradition, countless animal forms and weapon styles, and not to mention all the people involved in the school are great people.

Major points for the strong bad avatar. C'mon Fhqwgads!

[Smgkf_JJ]

well ive been posting on forum for a bit, but i havent put anything in here yet so ill do that now. I do shaolin mok gar kung fu, only for a few months now and ive just taken up wu style tai chi.. i have much to learn :), and if any experienced person in Ma has any tips to offer on how to improve generally, im all ears :)..im 18 now and i wished id started so much earlier in my life, its something i regret but try and remedy by practising what i know so far everyday...still feels like im behind though :( lol..

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by Smgkf_JJ
and if any experienced person in Ma has any tips to offer on how to improve generally, im all ears

You only need two ears, just be sure to use them along with your eyes and grey matter. ;)

Good to have you on MAP Smgkf.

[CKava]

Welcome Kung Who?

Is it just me, or do the pictures on your web site look a little strange(a kung fu school kitted out in karate gi's)

http://www.swshaolin.com/faqs.html#1

[Smgkf_JJ]

Originally posted by Andy Murray
You only need two ears, just be sure to use them along with your eyes and grey matter. ;)

Good to have you on MAP Smgkf.

thanks :), good to be here :D

[P0ps]

Hi guys, this is my first post!

I practise wing chun at nottingham university with Sifu Dave Blackley. I initially started wing chun 4 years ago for a brief period of time, in the UKWCKF clubs around north east london. and then when i came to nottingham, i started training again and have been for 5 months now.

Dave also teaches us ground fighting in the form of BJJ, which i find very interesting and potentially very useful due to the weakness of wing chun on the ground.

[xuande]

I currently train in Hung Gar, Ha Say Fu and Northern Shaolin. I also practice in the internal arts, Yang and Sun style Tai Chi. I'm looking in the future to possibly study some Hsing-I and Ba Gua.

The kwoon I go to is in Waukesha, Wisconsin. I do this because it is insane amounts of fun, and it allows me to learn how to use a rather large variety of sharp and pointy weapons.

[PantherFist]

YES, WEAPONS, COOL!!!!!:D:D:D

[Shaolin Dragon]

Originally posted by xuande
The kwoon I go to is in Waukesha, Wisconsin. I do this because it is insane amounts of fun, and it allows me to learn how to use a rather large variety of sharp and pointy weapons.

Sharp and pointy is all good and well, but don't forget blunt and heavy, as well as long and flexible:D

[Charlie85]

hi thereee
hows goin im doin southern shaolin kung fu (tiger crane combination)
and chinese boxin.
i do tae kwon do too but this is for other topic ;P
i love this kind of kung fu cauze im learnin to control all my power
;P

[PantherFist]

Are you studying with Iain Armstrong in the Nam Yang Pugilistic Association.
If you are you are very lucky, he has a very good rep.:)

[Charlie85]

i dont do with him cauze i live in portsmouth but its in the Nam Yang Pugilistic Association.he is really good.

[Xianghua]

I studied Shou Shu for about 4 months. I've earned my low orange belt and am working on my orange material. I wanted to take Kung Fu because of it's grace, beauty, and effectiveness. And learning how to fight like an animal is just really freakin' cool! :D

[xeviphract]

I study Lung Jow (Dragon Claw).

I must admit, I'm in the dark on where it fits into the wider spectrum of Chinese martial arts, (I don't believe it is the same as Lung Shou Pai Dragon Claw, but then I don't have enough information to be able to compare the two). The Lung Jow lineage basically amounts to 'taught by a bloke who was taught by a Chinese bloke' and that's all I've managed to gleen so far.

We employ strikes and blocks based on Dragon, Snake, Tiger, Crane and Mantis. There's quite a variety of moves on offer - They're based on practical application and can be exceedingly brutal.


Is it just me, or do the pictures on your web site look a little strange(a kung fu school kitted out in karate gi's):D

Our club chose the medium-weight black gi instead of a kung fu-style uniform because the kung fu-style uniforms, it was discovered, weren't particularly 'uniform' and changed fashion whenever a new student bought one. Having said that, I find the gi to be quite restrictive in comparison with the usual Chinese attire (which I wear at home. I figure there's not much point in learning all this stuff if my tight jeans won't let me use any of it).

[Tattooed Bear]

Hi, I just joined MAP. I study Shou Shu in Sacramento. I joined this art because I saw it used for real on the street by someone I was hanging out with at the time. He was jumped by 5 gangsters, and before I could get to him it was over. 5 bad guys with missing teeth and bloody faces. I signed up not long after. After 6 years my abilties have far surpassed those that I saw in use.(although they are nowhere near where I want to be) It feels good to be confident nomatter where I am, that's why I train in CMA.

[Musashi Kyo]

I take Choy Li/lay Fut Which emphasizes horse stance and Strong Hand techniques. I took this art because I was new to MA and wanted a place to train alot. Basically I like to "show off" my stances and Choy li Fut has many in gracefull sequences.

[PantherFist]

Welcome to a fellow Choy Lee Fut practioner, the more the merrier, there is too many of those pesky Wing Chun practioners on this forum :D

[El Tejon]

Geez, what did we do? :love:

[PantherFist]

Old rival's from Hong Kong (50's), those were day's, the clash of arm against arm, foot against head in those roof top fights :D

Ahh I just love the smell of Napam first thing in the Morning, the smell of it :D