One Inch Punch

[Wong Fei Hung]

When Bruce Lee does the One Inch Punch , his arm is extended out all the way but one inch away from the enemys chest.

The thing is that to me it looks like a push with your knuckels to me.

You guys probaly already know this but , if you don't extend your arm all the way out and your arm is an inch away still you probaly can give the opponenet more damage the the extended arm.

What do you guys think I was just wondering if this was correct or not , I want to see you guys opinion.


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What does this sign mean with the Smiles?
(just for fun)lol

[SliqueRICK]

one inc h punch i do that all the time http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/wengshunkuen/oneinchpunch.html

[LilBunnyRabbit]

The one inch punch is just a trickery technique, a demonstration technique.

[Andy Murray]

Congratulations on your first Troll post CKD :D

I've seen demonstration that it originates from a Tai Chi technique actually.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Didn't mean to troll, I meant trick as in magic trick. Its a way of using the full power of a punch without appearing to, and requires skill and practice to do, but otherwise is nothing special.

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by ckdstudent
Its a way of using the full power of a punch without appearing to, and requires skill and practice to do, but otherwise is nothing special.

That seems like a slight self contradiction.

It requires skill and practice to do, and is a way of using the full power of a punch without appearing to, yet it's nothing special?



Here's an older thread on One Inch Punch (http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=439) .

[Greyghost]

yep, we use it in tai chi...we call it Fa jing...which i think roughly means "explosive energy" or something similar.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

It requires skill and practice to do, and is a way of using the full power of a punch without appearing to, yet it's nothing special?

Well its not hard to learn to do, with varying degrees of power. Its not really useful in an actual fight, so I think of it as a demonstration technique. However it does require practice, as does any other technique, but would you say that a front punch is something special just because it requires practice and skill?

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by ckdstudent
Its not really useful in an actual fight,

Who says?

[Freeform]

Who says?

Jimmy did, just there, didn't you see? :D

I've been shown Fa Jing methods and I can attest to their effectiveness. Sure it would require a good degree of skill to apply it in a scrap, but its not useless. I don't see it as any different to the application of alot of Judo (proper Judo, not sports Judo).

Anyway back to the one inch punch. I read somewhere that its to do with punching directly on top of the Xiphod process (at the bottom of the sternum) which is a small pointy bone. The story goes that if you can break that, it'll cut some of your major arteries and you'll bleed to death internally. You are aware of this on a subconcious level and will naturally throw yourself away from any impact to that region.

That could be a load of twaddle for all I know, but thought you'd like to hear it.

Col

[Greyghost]

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Originally posted by ckdstudent
Its not really useful in an actual fight,
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mmm...but its useful in ending them before they begin.

nothing like the unexpected to really **** up your day..

in case your wondering ...the missing word is "mess"


ps...this punch is really useful when your sparring in a phonebox!!!!

[YODA]

Originally posted by ckdstudent
Its not really useful in an actual fight,

I've used it - in an actual fight - it ended that fight

[Greyghost]

see!

told you.

nyah nyah ne nyah naaa!!!

[AndyD]

"I've used it - in an actual fight - it ended that fight"

The technique or the principals used within it?

[YODA]

Yes :D

It was one of those "finger in his chest" poking kinda things. He cocked his hand back to punch me - I nailed him in the sternum with the punch & sent him backwards through a *****ly hedge LOL!

He shouted to his mates that I was a cop and that I'd used a stun gun on him LOL!

That was time for a sharp exit :D

[Andy Murray]

I'm intrigued by the mechanics of the Fa Jing variant.

What I saw involved placing the back of the left hand near the chest, and the palm of the right hand to the palm of the left hand, followed by a percussive forward movement.

This lead me to thinking about the linking of hands used in CPR. And the extra depth of penetration you get simply by making your arm longer.

[SoKKlab]

I'm sure Earl Montaigue (Tai Chi Chuan, Bagua etc) would demonstrate it.

He's moving to Wales (Swansea area) next month I believe to do regular monthly seminars for the British Isles contingent.

See the Kunzhi.net site or www.taichiworld.com for further details.
He does a mean One inch Fa Jing punch, Palm strike, Hand spear etc.

[Freeform]

Andy, I've had that done to me a couple of times. Once into my upperarm, I was in the pub and it almost made me spill my pint which was in the other hand :D

The other time was for a demo right over my solar plexus, that one almost made me lose my lunch!

Col

[Adam]

I wondered: Does it take a lot of strength to pull off or is it all in the technique?

[AndyD]

Originally posted by Adam
I wondered: Does it take a lot of strength to pull off or is it all in the technique?

It does not require strength - in fact use of strength creates muscle tension and in turn rebound i.e. the power that would go into the target returns to the person executing the punch (similar to the what you feel if you hit something hard with an iron bar).

The one inch punch is little more than sudden expansion of structure. Of course, the devil is in the details :-)

Andy D

[khafra]

Was that webpage a pretty good explanation of the details? I guess I gotta get a friend and a telephone book, and find out...

[pgm316]

My instructor did that to me the other week, felt like I was nearly KO'd, I was drained for a good few seconds..........

[AndyD]

Be very carefull when using this technique - I know 2 people who have had to go to hospital with heart palputations because of it.

[btq]

Someone told me that there was a thread looking for Wing Chun in Scotland in here!

www.scottishwingchun.com

There ye go!

[Sub zero]

Originally posted by Andy Murray
I'm intrigued by the mechanics of the Fa Jing variant.

What I saw involved placing the back of the left hand near the chest, and the palm of the right hand to the palm of the left hand, followed by a percussive forward movement.

This lead me to thinking about the linking of hands used in CPR. And the extra depth of penetration you get simply by making your arm longer.


I was at a tai chi demo years ago.Well it wasn't just a demo.They did that.The tai chi guys gave us a quick lesson on it afterward.It proved like the one inch punch to actauly be very uselful in sparring(done very lightly othcourse)
If done lightly it would wind you (like the one inchpunch,But both are devastsing whendone at full power.Well that's what i think.

BTQ.Do u know of any wing chun classes in dunfermline.Or dundee? (i'l be moving there)

[Wong Fei Hung]

You can increase your punch by punching a wall!
LoL

[Greg-VT]

My instructor did the one inch punch to me on both my first lessons (I restarted). Open palm and not full force -ofcourse. Left me a little breathless to say the least.

But before that, I had been trying it out on my bro for a while. Currently I can get a result of about 3-4 feet, not a bad effort. He won't let me do it anymore :( . So I've resorted to my computer monitor. Just aslong as I don't move it, the dents in the wall should be well hidden ;)

As for it being a 'trick', I disagree. I think could be applied very well in fight. If not using the standard method, but in other instances using the same technique.

[AndyD]

Don't forget there are two ways to do the one inch punch - one will thrust the person back (and looks very effective hence it is used from demonstrations), the other will drop the person on the spot (this requires more skill and is VERY dangerous).

[YODA]

It was the 1st one I used - knocked the guy back about 20 feet though a *****ly hedge :Angel:

[Greg-VT]

20 feet? Yeah, I'd be makeing a stun gun excuse to my buddies too..

Two ways huh? Much differences in application/technique? I'm thinking it would just be differences with speed, force, location... etc.

Although, I would think both ways could be applied in one instance. That is, forcefully directing the target backwards -and- making sure they don't get up.

[Sub zero]

I take it the second one inflicts internal dammage?

[AndyD]

Originally posted by Sub zero
I take it the second one inflicts internal dammage?

That's right. It's very deceptive as you feel like you've done nothing - other than the reaction from the other person.

[headstock]

The "one inch punch" is an example of the use of fa jing/ging energy. This can be applied to a six inch punch, 3 foot punch, or zero inch punch e.g. popping someones jaw when placing a palm on someones face. advantages in a fight? well you get power without swinging haymakers all over the place, it makes a strike less telegraphed and obvious. And you dont need to do that thing that bruce lee does where he extends his fingers first. The key is to be relaxed all the time except for the exact point of impact, thats where the explosive energy comes in. When ive done light fa jing punches on a friends arm he described the pain as a wave that kept throbbing.

Anyone have any good sites on the science behind punches? I guess it has something to do with kinetic vs potential energy or something, its probably got a rational explanation.

[AndyD]

Originally posted by headstock
The key is to be relaxed all the time except for the exact point of impact, thats where the explosive energy comes in.

Exactly. But where many go wrong is by trying to clench the fist at impact rather than getting the relaxation part of the equation down first. Without the relaxation the power goes back into the puncher reducing the power of the punch considerably (amongst other things).

[Sporran]

Hi there, 1st post on this site.Seems a cool place tho'.

IMO, the 1 inch punch works fine, but is tricky to pull off in a real fight. Not impossible, just tricky. I'd rather just do several more conventional punches with frankly obscene amounts of power! LOL

[Greg-VT]

Tricky? No... I don’t think so..

You don't really need to be lined up and prepared for it to execute it well. The principles could be applied at any opportunity that presents itself.

BTW, welcome to MAP :D