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shaolin_hendrix
24-Jun-2005, 09:14 PM
Where could I learn to use the Scottish basket-hilt Broadsword?
TheCount
24-Jun-2005, 11:33 PM
Reinactment societies and so on or tradiitonal swordsmanship schools which are dotted around a bit.
Yossarian75
25-Jun-2005, 10:08 AM
Ive been looking for somewhere that teaches any kind of Scottish MA for a while now.

http://www.cateransociety.com/

Try the above link, they have Schools in the US and may be able to point you in the right direction. I plan on giving it a go when I move down south, ironically there are no schools in the highlands.
Louie
27-Jun-2005, 07:59 AM
Ive been looking for somewhere that teaches any kind of Scottish MA for a while now.
http://www.cateransociety.com/
ironically there are no schools in the highlands.

Hi Yossarian

I am an affiliate to the Cateran Society, teaching Broadsword/Singlestick here in Gourock. There are several other groups teaching Scottish-European MA around Scotland particularily in Edinburgh and the Aberdeen area. :rolleyes:

Louie
Yossarian75
27-Jun-2005, 12:33 PM
Cheers Louie,

Im still a good few hours from the Aberdeen area but Im moving to Edinburgh in the near future so Ill look up a group then.
lklawson
29-Jun-2005, 06:58 PM
Where could I learn to use the Scottish basket-hilt Broadsword?
As mentioned by others the Cateran Society is one of the go-to places.

Chris Thomson of the Cateran Society recently taught a 1.5 hour class on Regimental Highland Broadsword (McBane, I think) at the Cumann Bhata Western Martial Arts Seminar.

We recorded the class from two different camera angles on amature video. Chris has generously granted permission to distribute copies of the video

email me at lawson@dayton.net or lklawson@gmail.com for information.....

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Sorry Kirk I have edited this mail rather than delete it for infringing MAP's advertising regulations (see terms & cond.)
Louie
shaolin_hendrix
08-Sep-2005, 11:55 PM
I was in Scotland recently (I drove around and went on a few boats, I went to Glasgow, Oban, Inverness, Orkney, Stirling, and Edinburgh), and while I was there I got a decent scottish broadsword for 50 pounds. Now I'm totally broke, but I thought it was a pretty good deal.
Smee
09-Sep-2005, 12:22 AM
You should have come to Dundee and had a good night out on the town!!!

We could've just got drunk, stolen a broadsword (from somewhere......) and saved you £50.......
shaolin_hendrix
09-Sep-2005, 12:24 AM
You should have come to Dundee and had a good night out on the town!!!

We could've just got drunk, stolen a broadsword (from somewhere......) and saved you £50.......lol :D
Stolenbjorn
09-Sep-2005, 12:51 PM
You could allso check out the I-33 (or 1-33) manual. It's the oldes one there is in Europe, and it shows european 1h.sword and buckler from around the year 1280. Several web-sites have pictures and explanations, just try browsing for it.
Louie
09-Sep-2005, 07:35 PM
I was in Scotland recently (I drove around and went on a few boats, I went to Glasgow, Oban, Inverness, Orkney, Stirling, and Edinburgh), and while I was there I got a decent scottish broadsword for 50 pounds. Now I'm totally broke, but I thought it was a pretty good deal.


Hi Shaolin....

Pity I missed you on your Glasgow tour, we could have done a bit of broadsword, dirk & targe.

Louie
shaolin_hendrix
10-Sep-2005, 05:48 PM
Hi Shaolin....

Pity I missed you on your Glasgow tour, we could have done a bit of broadsword, dirk & targe.

LouieIf I go to Glasgow again I'll be sure to look for your school.
shaolin_hendrix
10-Sep-2005, 05:49 PM
You could allso check out the I-33 (or 1-33) manual. It's the oldes one there is in Europe, and it shows european 1h.sword and buckler from around the year 1280. Several web-sites have pictures and explanations, just try browsing for it.OK, thanks, I'll look for it.
lklawson
12-Sep-2005, 03:14 PM
You could allso check out the I-33 (or 1-33) manual. It's the oldes one there is in Europe, and it shows european 1h.sword and buckler from around the year 1280. Several web-sites have pictures and explanations, just try browsing for it.
I wouldn't recommend I.33 for instruction on Backsword/Broadsword. The swords used are quite different and the style for using it is different. I.33 is sword and buckler (as you've noted) and not a basket-hilted sword. The techniques illurstrated are definitely different stylistically from the Broadsword/Backsword tradition. There are several good period sorces for Broadsword/Backsword. McBane is the most well known (in my opinion) and is one of the primary sources for the Cateran Society.

In Scotland the go-to guy is Maestro Paul McDonald. Very tallented fellow. Nice.

The [Broadsword_Heavy_Sabre] yahoo group also deals with the basket-hilted Broadsword/Backsword.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
shaolin_hendrix
12-Sep-2005, 04:04 PM
I wouldn't recommend I.33 for instruction on Backsword/Broadsword. The swords used are quite different and the style for using it is different. I.33 is sword and buckler (as you've noted) and not a basket-hilted sword. The techniques illurstrated are definitely different stylistically from the Broadsword/Backsword tradition. There are several good period sorces for Broadsword/Backsword. McBane is the most well known (in my opinion) and is one of the primary sources for the Cateran Society.

In Scotland the go-to guy is Maestro Paul McDonald. Very tallented fellow. Nice.

The [Broadsword_Heavy_Sabre] yahoo group also deals with the basket-hilted Broadsword/Backsword.

Peace favor your sword,
KirkThanks, I'll check those out.
Stephen Hand
07-Oct-2005, 05:04 AM
I don't know of any groups near you studying basket hilted sword or I.33. The main manuals on the weapon are collected in the book Highland Broadsword from Chivalry Bookshelf (http://www.chivalrybookshelf.com). CB also publishes a translation and facsimile of I.33 by Dr Jeff Forgeng and a how-to book on the system by me and Paul Wagner.

Cheers
Stephen
Jon Barber
07-Oct-2005, 11:21 PM
I don't know of any groups near you studying basket hilted sword or I.33. The main manuals on the weapon are collected in the book Highland Broadsword from Chivalry Bookshelf (http://www.chivalrybookshelf.com). CB also publishes a translation and facsimile of I.33 by Dr Jeff Forgeng and a how-to book on the system by me and Paul Wagner.


Steve - he's in Boulder, CO which puts him quite close to the group John Jordan trains with. John studies I.33 (though the group's main focus is Fiore IIIRC).

You can find info about that group here: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~kenelson/RMHCG

Jon Barber
Tattershall School of Defense
shaolin_hendrix
23-Oct-2005, 09:47 PM
Steve - he's in Boulder, CO which puts him quite close to the group John Jordan trains with. John studies I.33 (though the group's main focus is Fiore IIIRC).

You can find info about that group here: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~kenelson/RMHCG

Jon Barber
Tattershall School of Defense
thanks