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urbantus
29-Jun-2003, 10:50 PM
itf style tkd

i want to improve my reverse turning/hooking kick
from L stance can you explain to me your technique for doing this move

Ive seen some ppl move lead foot over
while others just pivot on lead foot prior to starting the kick

Im sure its a lot to do with the balance placed on lead foot

Id appreciate your comments

Helm
29-Jun-2003, 11:19 PM
Hmm im not sure 100% what the itf one is like, but the wtf one goes something like,

Facing 12'oclock, left foot forwards, start turning clockwise (pivot on the left leg),

Now either go to do a back-kick but aiming at kicking to a 100degree angle rather than a 180, straighten the leg, lean away from it slightly snap the leg out and up and bend it for the hook at about 200degrees (after the target).

Its actually straight-forward, but you need to be fast and flexible to use it to any great standard.

darlph
29-Jun-2003, 11:21 PM
Spin hook? Startin in "L" or guardian stance, I usually place a low stool in front of me. About leg length away. I bring my rear leg up knee to knee, pivoting my supporting leg, which is slightly bent, heel pointing towards stool. The hip rotates as the kicking leg hooks over the stool, refolds and sets down just past the stool. That's how I was taught. Due to bad knees, to take the stress of the pivot off, I turn the supporting foot right before my kicking leg folds knee to knee.
An observation I have made, sometimes the way the kick begins is a matter of situation. I watch beginng students step on rear leg kicks and not realize it. And then again, it's the way someone is taught. But if you want to not let the other person know you are going to kick them with the rear leg, you should not step. If you throw a kick off the front leg, try to disquise the movement with a fake punch. Watch a few tournaments and examine the how the kicks are thrown.

Tosh
02-Jul-2003, 10:51 AM
In my opinion many students forget to turn the most important part of the body first on nearly every occasion.......

THE HEAD

Can't kick what you don't see!

My advice would be to begin with moving the foot across. Then once you have control of the body weight throughout the kick move on to pivoting on the foot.

To pratice start by pivoting on the ball of the foot, turn the shoudlers to get the head around to look at the target. Then, as darlph mentioned, imagine a stool you will have to raise your kicking leg over and control tehe spin as slow as possible.

Obviously, the more practice you put into the control of the kick and remember not to throw it blindly the better it will become.

Practice, Practice , Practice

P.s. Begin with low kicks (i.e. ankle height) until you understand the dynamics of the kick.

Effective kicks are not the highest or most powerfull, they are the ones that are completely controlled by the kicker!

KickChick
02-Jul-2003, 12:06 PM
Beginners are taught 'reverse turn kicks' in more of a staggered stance than a traditional fighting stance. Of course, you would not want to do this in a sparring situation as it telegraphs the kick. But as one progresses a quick step into a staggered stance while pivoting on ball of left foot can be done.

One important key factor in executing turn kicks is the use of the shoulders while turning and looking at your target as tosh posted .... extend and follow through with the shoulder and elbow with the kick toward your target. ... whip it--- whip it good!

Greg_G47
16-Jul-2003, 08:27 AM
From a right L-Stance:

Do a back kick with a half-decent sword edge (at least make sure your foot is horizontal). aim as if the person was 1-2 feet to the left of where they are and you're striking straight in to the head.

Most of the speed in this kick comes from the retraction. Hook the leg in as if you were kicking yourself in the rear end with your heel. While doing this do not allow your knee to drop until the motion is completed.

This is a good place to start from. You'll need to tweak it a little bit to get a really solid kick out of it, but that;s the easiest way I can think of to explain the basics.

You'll know you have it when you can throw the kick with good accuracy and land in a solid stance.

mattsylvester
09-Mar-2004, 06:12 PM
I do the lead foot technique, plant your weight onto that leg and then whip round. I'm quite heavy so it doesn't look too good :)

Kenpo Kicker
10-Mar-2004, 06:43 AM
turning hooks suck imo. I would rather spin. It goes against the motion! I can never get power out of them. I love lead leg hooks though they do just fine and are way faster than turning and don't have to go against the motion of your kick. I don't see the point of turning hook kicks.

Din
10-Mar-2004, 06:48 AM
i usually pivot on my lead foot and execute the kick.