Christian Rock

[ncmartialartist]

Awesome stuff, Christian Rock is. My playlist is as follows:

Relient K
TobyMac
Kutless
Mae
MXPX
Cadet
FM Static
Hawk Nelson
Anberlin
KJ-52
Newsboys
DC Talk
Sanctus Real
Thousand Foot Krutch
Skillet
Pillar
Switchfoot
Jeremy Camp
The O.C. Supertones
Demon Hunter
Audio Adrenaline
Third Day
Bleach
Watashi Wa
Slick Shoes


Any of this sound familiar? Opinions? Comments?

[Capt Ann]

About half of these are on my playlist, too.
Favorites from your list are Third Day, Newsboys, and Audio Adrenaline (I also like Supertones, Skillet, KJ 52 and Relient K).

For my list, please add
Caedmon's Call
MW Smith
Steven Curtis Chapman

Comparing your list and mine, I'm guessing that you are < half my age (*sigh*).

If you like rap/hip hop, may I suggest you check out 'Cross Movement.. Two of the leads from CM have solo projects out now, too.

[PsiCop]

I don't mind Christian rock bands as long as they're actually good and don't sing about religion every single song.

[tekkengod]

yeah, switchfoot is ok. its not bad as long as its not the same incessant lyrics over and over again, like rap.

[Kwajman]

How about Jars of Clay?

[Capt Ann]

"Jars" is a good band. They've got a great sound and they've had hits on both Christian and secular alternative radio.

[Twimyo Jirugi]

Christian rock seems like an oxymoron to me.

[Capt Ann]

Christian rock seems like an oxymoron to me.
That's unfortunate. It either means that you think Rock can't be Christian, or that you believe that "Christian" can't mean rock.

There are hundreds of Christian radio stations with live audio now on line. Google a few up and have a listen, then please tell me what you think about some of the bands and styles.

a few:
www.klove.com (nationally known station)
www.wgts919.com (one of my 'home town' stations)

yahoo music has a Christian music station online as well, but I don't know how good it is.

[Funky Cherry]

Good to see some Christian rock fans :) I love Reliant K; their Christmas album is awesome.

[dori_kin_86]

Mine favorites are as follows: Third Day, Toby Mac, DC Talk, Switchfoot.
Lately though I've been listening more to techno than rock for some reason.

[tbubb1]

ahhh

http://www.myspace.com/ceasethewhitehorse

, the chariot and norma jean is where it's at :)

[mmaone]

cool i though i was the only one that listens to it. I just recently started listening to KJ-52. And i really live POD! NC, are you in fayetteville? Im near Fuquay.

[Topher]

Didn't the pope say rock music was the devil?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.lebanon/msg/4dc071f061fc0f4e?dmode=source

[DEATHskull]

The best christian band ever (next to MXPX of course) is Haste the Day.

http://www.myspace.com/hastetheday

[deaddoll]

Christian rock seems like an oxymoron to me.
Im with you on that one :D I think it is a control thing :love:

[Johnno]

No one has mentioned Cliff Richard! :eek: ;) :D

[deaddoll]

I was hopping NOONE would AAAAGGHHHHH good ole cliff mr shiney nice...I wish they could find a major scandal on him ....the press have let us all down there :D

[Johnno]

I was hopping NOONE would AAAAGGHHHHH good ole cliff mr shiney nice...I wish they could find a major scandal on him ....the press have let us all down there :DI knew that mention Cliff's name would ruin someone's day! I just knew it! :yeleyes: :D (evil laugh...)

[Capt Ann]

Christian Rock seems like an oxymoron to meIm with you on that one :D I think it is a control thing :love:Sorry, but that's just based on your personal prejudice and your distorted view of what 'Christians are supposed to be like'. I really hate prejudice, in all its forms. The simplest cure is to step outside your prejudice and be introduced to those things that you previously were prejudiced about. Please, take the time to read the thread, follow some links to Christian Rock bands, and check out some of the groups recommended on the thread.

[Durkhrod Chogori]

Didn't the pope say rock music was the devil?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.lebanon/msg/4dc071f061fc0f4e?dmode=source


I think he should get off LSD asap. He still thinks we are in the 60s.


Yes Rock is the Devil!:

Runnin' with the Devil (Van Halen). One of my favourite songs. Gee, Eddie vibrates his guitar in this song:


I live my life like there's no tomorrow
And all I've got I had to steal
Least I don't need to beg or borrow
Yes I'm living at a pace that kills
Runnin' with the devil
Runnin' with the devil
I found the simple life ain't so simple
When I jumped out on that road
I got no love, no love you'd call real
Ain't got nobody waiting at home
Runnin' with the devil
Runnin' with the devil
You know I, I found the simple life, weren't so simple, no
When I jumped out on that road
Got no love, no love you'd call real
Got nobody waiting at home
Runnin' with the devil
Runnin' with the devil
Runnin' with the devil
Runnin' with the devil



CG.

[Martial_Julez]

I thought listening to rock music was supposed to be a "sin"

I know there are few Christians out there who actually follow all that though.

[mmaone]

I dont remember reading in the Bible "Thou shalt not listen to any type of rock".

[deaddoll]

Sorry, but that's just based on your personal prejudice and your distorted view of what 'Christians are supposed to be like'. I really hate prejudice, in all its forms. The simplest cure is to step outside your prejudice and be introduced to those things that you previously were prejudiced about. Please, take the time to read the thread, follow some links to Christian Rock bands, and check out some of the groups recommended on the thread.
I have already given all things a good looking over and can happily say I am not and never will be in your club ...... I have just read post about the pope and Rock music ..seems there is alot of confusion about things in the Christian world.....Just my personal opinion ..nothing to get in a pickle about ....

[dbmasters]

Most of the confusion is old-school vs. new-school Christians. I have worked stage security and body guard for most all of the bands mentioned in this thread, Christian Rock has a huge following, and really most of the concerts are just as crazy and as fun as any other concert, the main difference being, from a security standpoint, that the kids you are dealing with are 98% of the time sober and coherent...just having fun.

Depending on the church/religion you are talking about "rock" as a whole is a sin, which in my point of view, is ignorant, but they all have their reasons and I am the last guy to sit and judge other peoples beliefs, I just worry about my own. I enjoy much of this music from a music standpoint...the lyrics in any music to me is moot, to me it's just another instrument, I don't really listen to what is said or what it means.

"Christian Rock" is one of those subjects that you can really get a wide range of opinions on inside the church, each has their own, some people refuse change, some people love it...but it's no different than everything else, everyone has their own thoughts on the subject. Sin is in the heart of the person...not the music.

[iHeretic]

Don't know whether they're just old hat or not known where you guys are, but you all appear to be missing out on the wonder of Delirious. Especially live, loud, and improvised.

/b/

[Yossarian]

Ive only heard a little Christian rock(cant remember the bands) and imho I thought it to be pretty bland and contrived but I am a bit of a music snob.I do like a bit of Gospel though.

Are there other types or Cristian music? such as Cristian Punk, Goth or techno. Just curious, Im not taking the Mickey or anything.

I wonder would The Jesus and Mary Chain and Spacemen 3 be considered Christian Rock? as many of their songs are about god etc.

[mmaone]

my wife really like delirious. Im sure there are many styles of Christian Music out there. It really has come a long way in the last few years. Rap, rock, country, gospel... "relient k" is a group that reminds me of green day a little.

[SpecifySeverity]

Didn't the pope say rock music was the devil?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.lebanon/msg/4dc071f061fc0f4e?dmode=source

The Pope can only speak for the Catholic community. There are many other branches of Christianity that don't associate themselves with the Pope. In the case of many of these bands, they're mainly Christian (with Christian, i mean people who just call themselves Christians, not Catholics, Mormons, JWs, etc.)

[Topher]

The Pope can only speak for the Catholic community. There are many other branches of Christianity that don't associate themselves with the Pope. In the case of many of these bands, they're mainly Christian (with Christian, i mean people who just call themselves Christians, not Catholics, Mormons, JWs, etc.)
Of course. But i wonder where the Pope gets that view?

[Capt Ann]

To the best of my knowledge, the Pope never said that rock music was of the devil.

Regarding other types of Christian music: punk, Techno, metal, hiphop, urban, traditional, yes. There are Christian bands that play those styles as well. For those in the Techno scene, may I suggest DJ Andy Hunter - one of the best among Christians and non-Christians. A lot of his stuff has been used in the background for movies/TV (backgrounds in 'Alias', among others)..

[Johnno]

To the best of my knowledge, the Pope never said that rock music was of the devil.I think you're right. Wasn't it the Southern Baptists who said that, back in the 1950's?

[Capt Ann]

No, actually. I've heard of some fringe groups that used that as a mantra (the same crowd that says that if it isn't the KJV, it isn't really the Bible). I know of one church in my community (of about 160 churches) that has a similar view.

I almost went in ethnomusicology as a minor. Some great insights into different cultures are available through looking at a culture's music and music history. In the USA, the roots of rock-n-roll were actually in the spirituals sung in the predominantly black churches in the antebellum deep south (same roots as jazz and Gospel). So, rock music was actually birthed out of 'church music'.

Speaking of which, if anyone on this thread loves contemporary Gospel music (not the same as Christian rock, but same roots), go rent the movie "The Gospel". The story is pretty good, but predictable, but the music is exceptional. If you know your contempory gospel, you will probably recognize half the names of people in the film, even if you might not recognize them by sight. Donny McClurkin and Hezekiah Walker have roles in the film. Fred Hammond, Yolanda Adams, 'Mom' Winans, and Martha Munnizi make appearances singing. And although they don't appear onstage, the film also features music and singing by Kirk Franklin and Joanne Rosario. For those who don't know, that's the everybody-who's-anybody list for contemporary Gospel!

Like I said, the plot is somewhat predictable. But for those of you new to the conversations/debates about Christianity in the US, it gives a great view inside a typical inner city Afro-American mega-church. So, if you want some great music and an 'insider's view' of one of the main moving forces in US culture/politics, have a look at it.

[Topher]

One of the Roman Catholic world's most powerful figures has branded rock music an "instrument of the Devil" and urged young people not to listen to it for fear of endangering their souls.

[dbmasters]

Ive only heard a little Christian rock(cant remember the bands) and imho I thought it to be pretty bland and contrived but I am a bit of a music snob.I do like a bit of Gospel though.

Are there other types or Cristian music? such as Cristian Punk, Goth or techno. Just curious, Im not taking the Mickey or anything.
Christian music is like any mainstream music, it does have it's lame, fully manufactured pop bands and junk...it's not immune to that, and yes there are Christian bands in most every genre of popular music...Metal, Punk, Ska, Goth, Techno, Rock, Pop, Acoustic, and on and on and on...

[MonkeysUncle]

There are Christian bands in a ton of genres. If you like classic rock or metal, Stryper is what you want. They've been around since the mid-80s and are better than quite a few secular bands strictly from a musical perspective. Skillet, Pillar, and Thousand Foot Krutch are all great modern rock/hard rock bands. Jonah 33 is also, with more spiritual lyrics. Switchfoot is more alternative, Tobymac is rock/hip hop, DC Talk and Newsboys are more rock-pop, while they have faster punk bands like Relient K and Hawk Nelson. Many of them don't have a whole lot of always talking about God lyrics etc. if you aren't into that. Five Iron Frenzy, although no longer together, was one of the most amazing ska/punk/rock with horns bands I've ever heard, secular or not. Honestly, a lot of Christian rock isn't even about religion, it's just labeled Christian because the members are Christian and the band doesn't talk about drugs sex and violence. Neither do all secular bands, but I'm just saying. Also, the pope is Catholic, which is a different religion than Christianity.

[SpecifySeverity]

Of course. But i wonder where the Pope gets that view?

Don't they think everything is the devil?

It's spoofed in a lot of tv shows. Like in Family Guy, they said that holding hands is the devil, going #2 in the bathroom is the devil. In the Simpsons, Homer pulled out a book potty training book that was titled something like, "That is concentrated evil coming out of you, you dirty, dirty child," when he was looking for a potty training book for Maggie.

I'm just guessing that he holds that view because that's what he was raised to believe. And the other Popes did it, too... Perhaps it's just the Catholic way of life.. That's just my TV-educated opinion.

[watto86]

Didn't the pope say rock music was the devil?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.lebanon/msg/4dc071f061fc0f4e?dmode=source
I wonder if Ratzinger listened to said Rock and Heavy Metal bands, so as to base his statements on some actual fact and first hand experience, or if he just came to that conclusion on his own. Having said that, I spose that that would allow evil into his soul if he listened to it then? So he couldn't actually listen to it anyway. Either way. lol

[dbmasters]

Also, the pope is Catholic, which is a different religion than Christianity.
What?!?!?! :rolleyes: Christianity is an umbrella heading for many religions, namely, those that believe in Christ as their savior...Catholicism falls into that category.

[NaughtyKnight]

[Cartman Voice] I want to get on my knees and pleasure you jesus, I want your salvation all over my face [/Cartman Voice]

:D

[Lord Spooky]

[Cartman Voice] I want to get on my knees and pleasure you jesus, I want your salvation all over my face [/Cartman Voice]

:D


ROFLMAO

NK you owe me a keyboard :D :D

[holyheadjch]

whilst I can just about rationalise 'christian rock', there cannot be such a thing as christian punk,

[iHeretic]

Don't be so sure (http://www.christianpunks.com/).

[bomb_disneyland]

You missed out Stryper :D

[holyheadjch]

Punk is about not non-compliance and a lack of respect for authority, whereas christianity is all about conforming and complying and respecting authority - the two movements are opposites,

[kempo-kid]

Anybody remember these guys Bloodgood (http://www.bloodgoodband.com/)

KK

[RobP]

Punk is about not non-compliance and a lack of respect for authority, whereas christianity is all about conforming and complying and respecting authority - the two movements are opposites,

Wasn't Jesus regard as a rebel in his day? The moneylenders? Arguments with the rabbis?

And if punk is about non-compliance why do so many of them wear the same clothes? Today's corporate sponsored stuff is nothing like Punk in the 70's

[RobP]

Of course. But i wonder where the Pope gets that view?

Maybe it's something to do with the imagery most rock bands surround themselves with? Ozzy - the Prince of Darkness? Or the adolescent "satanic" posing?

[Capt Ann]

.............whereas christianity is all about conforming and complying and respecting authority This is a distorted view of Christianity. For an interesting historical read, check out "The Light and the Glory" by P. Marshall and D. Manuel. It traces the impact of Christianity on the founding of the US. Interesting how Christian revival (the Great Awakening) was largely responsible for unifying opposition to the British, and the 'revolt' against the Crown was centered in the pulpits throughout the colonies.

[reel deel]

in the words of Bart Simpson "Christian Rock Pah!Everyone knows that all the best bands are affiliated to Satan!"
Rock is supposed to be about rebellion. yes Jesus was a rebel of his time, his brother James was even worse as head of the church of Jesus Christ he was a hardline Jew,and in the eyes of the roman overlords a terrorist.
It was Paul who nearly had James arrested by the romans, and it was he who turned Christianity into something for the masses, by getting rid of circumcision (an act that Christ whole heartedly believed in!) and turning against James, James tried to have paul offed for this because it was all about bums on seats and how much was going onto the collection plate we call it racketeering now.
However to the best of my recollection I believe that niether Jesus James or indeed Paul ever owned or played electric guitar!
Satan the fallen Angel was a bigger rebel the all time original than Jesus could ever be, he went up against the man and got his butt kicked, but that's what makes him attractive to the outsider, the picked upon and the unquiet youth
going back to when rock n roll was born, it was about Elvis shaking his sexual hips and Chuck Berry with his licks and great lyrics, and little richard the killer Jerry lee lewis sweating and howling, then later it was The beatles the stones Hendrix then metal came along with Sabbath, and Judas preist Kiss later on ACDC Twisted Sister, but all the satanic posturing comes from the very roots of th music from the Blues from the story of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at a crossroads in order to play riffs that Clapton says you need a least four guitar players to replicate! then there was peetie wheetstraw the devils son in law, screaming Jay Hawkins who'd emerge from a smoking coffin carrying a skull.
Its called Showmanship spectacle and talent, rock has always been about bad boys motorcycles booze drugs guitars dying young in a pool of your own vomit, hope I die before I get old. Punk was the same but some of it was political like the Clash, some of it was good time rock n roll like the ramones bless em it was designed to be subversive, I'm not talking about that horrible wimpy American Designer punk that the kids listen too I'm talking about the real stuff that began just before macdowel and westwood got a hold of it.
It don't matter how you cut it I am afraid that Christian Rock is not Rock, its just Christian music designed to pull in kids who like the real stuff, and go "hey kids listen to this we can sound and play just like that other stuff you listen to"
But wheres the SEX cause that's what Rock is all about, it comes from Rock and Roll which was black slang for sex, that what its always been about, sex and Booze and drugs and violence and the girl who has legs way up to here and knows how to use em.
Mindless generic Rock, thank the devil for it, if you want to listen to a hymn like rock song God gave rock n roll to you is the nearest I go!
Another thing a lot of the satanist rap that was hung upon rock bands back in the eighties was done so by Christian Terrorist groups (Same sort of people who bomb abortion clinics and beat young women who've had abortions or offer them money to keep the baby, even though having a child out of wedlock is also supposed to be a sin!) who felt threatened by rocks attitude, and so they started a propaganda campaign saying that there were backwards messages on many of the heavy metal albums, which was laughable because most bands would say exactly what they wanted to say, they didn't need to put on backwards messages, and no self respecting rock fan would dare ruin and expensive vinyl album by playing it backwards. I may even start a link that says exactly what Christian groups said about lots of different things back then, and how you'd put your soul in peril if you -----