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wazzabi
22-Apr-2005, 12:42 AM
i've read some things on Hapkido's kicking techniques, and in most websites it says that Hapkido's kicks are different from every martial art. it says that Hapkido practitioners don't rely on their leg muscles to generate power, but rather, on Ki evergy. i find this confusing for some reason. can somebody explain to me how this is done?
Jungkihapkido
22-Apr-2005, 01:11 AM
There are some differing styles of Hapkido. The Hapkido of Doju Nim Choi, Yong Sul has 10 kicks, most are below the waist. The kicks are short and quick for the most part.
wazzabi
22-Apr-2005, 01:18 AM
There are some differing styles of Hapkido. The Hapkido of Doju Nim Choi, Yong Sul has 10 kicks, most are below the waist. The kicks are short and quick for the most part.
yea, i've hear that GM Choi's style has very few kicks. i was referring to the kicks in the styles derived from the Ji Han Jae lineage.
Martial One
22-Apr-2005, 04:27 AM
theres alooot of different definitions of ki/qi/chi, my instructor defines it as our energy, nothing mystical or anything, if you want to know what they are talking about ask em, talk with a practitioner belonging to a school of the site who talkes about it. I think a good powerful kick comes from understanding how to generate force (physical not mystical) with your body. Again ask a practitioner from that school :)
Trae
22-Apr-2005, 07:15 AM
I'll second that. Our kicks come from the good old twist of the hips and the leg extending. But what do I know, I'm only a newbie.
wild_pitch
22-Apr-2005, 12:18 PM
this is a good explaination of where the power comes from in hapkido kicking from my instructor.
"Posted a few times in this reguard before: Most North American Hapkido players kick in fact kick exclusively with TKD mechanics. They use the quad muscles of the leg to 'pick up' their legs, canting the knee and snap the lower part (knee down) to finish! Hapkido kicking is taken from TaeKKyon, a form of Korean folk game. The practitiioner lifts their leg for kicks such as say round, side and front using a combination of hip flexers, lateral oblqiues, weigh transfer and a tossing motion to throw their foot at the target. Unlike TKD kicking, Hapkido kicks unfold from 'natural bend", (no artificial over canting, sometimes leading to the incorrect description 'straight leg' kicking). In addition, this method is free of tension in the leg until a momentary very short finish (contact), followed by hip turning and/or release. At this point the foot usually rebounds off the target like a rubber ball releasing its energy into a wall. Making a second kick possible."
ki, and breath control help you focus this power.
wazzabi
22-Apr-2005, 02:59 PM
thanks wild_pitch. they taught us to punch & kick with the same principle in Kung-fu too, keeping the limbs loose so they can generate speed and only tense at the point of contact with the opponent. since i have a bit of training in this, i should be able to pick up Hapkido kicking pretty quickly :D
by the way, i'm thinking of joining Grandmaster Hwang in Shik's Eagle Hapkido dojang :Angel:
wild_pitch
22-Apr-2005, 03:06 PM
he is certainly a great teacher if you decide to join eagle i hope you get everything you want out of your training there.
if you are still thinking and not sure, feel free to come by our school as well and talk to mr. stewart we are located right downtown. doesn't hurt to check out all of your options.
austinso
22-Apr-2005, 06:31 PM
i've read some things on Hapkido's kicking techniques, and in most websites it says that Hapkido's kicks are different from every martial art. it says that Hapkido practitioners don't rely on their leg muscles to generate power, but rather, on Ki evergy. i find this confusing for some reason. can somebody explain to me how this is done?
I think the point is to be confusing...in fact, you can create all sorts of theories on how to generate powerful kicks and why kicks performed a certain way will be more powerful, but they are just theories. As Master Hwang will undoubtedly tell you and all his senior and junior students will teach you, you can only "taste" it to understand and appreciate.
And in order to really "taste" it, you have to kill any and all preconceptions about how it should "taste". If all your life you've believed that McDonalds hamburgers are the best tasting hamburgers around, and so you believe that that is how a hamburger should taste, how are you going to know how to make a really good hamburger like a Lick's burger?
At one level "Ki' is undoubtedly involved, but unless you are a gifted man like Master Hwang, I think that very few people have ever reached that point of knowledge...me? I just continue to train and hope for that inkling of understanding...
The Kung Fu will not help you to learn his manner of striking...unlearn as much of it as you can...
Austin
BTW...going to his dojang is very intimidating...but with greater risk, there is greater reward...everyone is there to learn, not to kill each other...you are in an enviable position to have the opportunity to train in his school. I, being located at the other side of the country, seriously miss that opportunity.
Hapkido Student
14-Jul-2005, 08:50 AM
In my class we do a warm up of kicking we do no contact kick sparring and i have to remember my 11 kicks so idk its a big part in my class but everything else is balanced punch block techniques and everything if u all want u should go to this site this is my dojang it has tons of photos and videos that you can use to even train on www.umsmartialarts.com
mike-IHF
14-Jul-2005, 02:00 PM
Hapkido Student,
I just noticed you are in Virginia. And I also notice you go to Umsmartial arts school. Is that the one in Annandale. I stopped by there one night and worked out with you guys. I'm an instructor with the IHF. I teach at providence recreation center. Let me know, maybe sometime we could get together nd train.
Hapkido Student
17-Jul-2005, 08:38 AM
Hey mike. Yes it is in that area. It's not to far from that recreation center. That'd be perfect. I have a friend who want's to get into Hapkido and he had the money to get into the Hapkido class, but his mother couldnt go there to sign him up and I was wondering if that'd be cool if he could train with us to. He know's most of the stuff I know because I teach him what I learned in class. And he also took a few classe's with me as well. :cool: Just keep me posted and we could set that up.
mike-IHF
17-Jul-2005, 01:03 PM
Hapkido Student,
Sounds great. Anytime you and anyone you know want to come by, you are more than welcome. I'm always open to people comming by. I must say though, that our techniques are technically somewhat different than the way your school teaches. So if you do stop by, which would be great. Please don't be too surprised if what you see, and feel isen't exactly the same. The best nights for you to come by would be either Mon. or Fri. from 6:30-8:30. If you come by, when you enter the rec center go down the stairs, make a right. And the class is in the last room on the right hand side. Take care, and I hope we can meet soon.
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