Jazz Hating?

[Wolf]

I know i'm probably inviting a whole lot of flack from people, but I've read a lot of stuff on this forum about people absolutly hating Jazz music. What's everyone's beef with it? That's one of my favorite types of music. Besides being a martial artist I'm a jazz sax player. I'm a firm believer in everyone's right to their opion, so I don't have a problem with people not liking jazz. I'm just curious as to why people don't like it, that's all.

[Omicron]

Just ignore them! It's no different than style vs. style debates. More often than not it's just uninformed people trying to make themselves feel better by asserting themselves over other people. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[JunFan38463]

I know i'm probably inviting a whole lot of flack from people, but I've read a lot of stuff on this forum about people absolutly hating Jazz music. What's everyone's beef with it? That's one of my favorite types of music. Besides being a martial artist I'm a jazz sax player. I'm a firm believer in everyone's right to their opion, so I don't have a problem with people not liking jazz. I'm just curious as to why people don't like it, that's all.


I personally find that Jazz music doesnt move me the way some other types of music do. i do like jazz melody and i dont hate jazz but its just doesnt relate to me in any way, and to me music i listen to should be a representation of my feelings, and jazz doesnt work for me

thats all i got to say

see people can be civil when discussing music :D

[Kwajman]

You hit it on the head, everyones entitled to an opinion. Some like it, some don't. A lot of people listen to stuff just cause someone else is.

[YODA]

Cracks me up when someone who absolutely loves rock guitar solos won't listen to or appreciate jazz. It's as if rock musicians have some monopoly on improvisation andmusical virtuosity :rolleyes:

No Jazz - No Rock.

[Wolf]

Good call! Glad to get a little support!
(note: this doesn't mean I don't like rock. I like all forms: metal, alt, classic, etc... even the occasional Power Ballad :eek: )

[Daydreamer]

I've never realy experienced that, I play the Sax too (at a very low standard :) ), and though I dont meet many people with liking of Jazz, I dont know many who dislike the music.

[jonmonk]

I love jazz. I've been listening to a lot of Sonny Rollins recently it's good stuff, the musicianship is amazing.

[Wolf]

Sonny is awesome! One of my favorites. Others for me are Coleman Hawkins, Stan Getz and of course Charlie Parker.

[Omicron]

Charlie Parker is the man! I've been listening to a lot of Cannonball Adderly these days too. For my final project in arranging class I wrote out his tune "Porky" for a bunch of saxes, complete with a transcribed version of his solo harmonized for the sax section. It was great fun!

[Wolf]

Wow man, that's awesome. If you ever get it recorded I'd love to hear it!

[Omicron]

Hah...it was just a little arranging project, so I doubt I'll ever record it. I'll probably never do anything with it again and it'll just sit around on my hard drive in my homework folder.

[choconutjoe]

Jazz is such a huge word, it encompasses so many varieties of music. I find it hard to beleive that anyone can dislike all of it.

[iamraisen]

Jazz is such a huge word, it encompasses so many varieties of music. I find it hard to beleive that anyone can dislike all of it.

exactly. if you look at miles davis' bitches brew and then compare it with the works of someone like Duke Ellington, then compare that with something like Esbjorn Svensson Trio you can see how diverse Jazz can be; they could be three seperate genres. how someone can say they dont like Jazz on the whole is beyond me. most people havnt properly listened to jazz, just as most havnt classical for that matter, and heard one band they dont like and then judged the entire genre- some that is like me saying i dont like whiskey after having a jack daniels and coke :D

[Wolf]

exactly. if you look at miles davis' bitches brew and then compare it with the works of someone like Duke Ellington, then compare that with something like Esbjorn Svensson Trio you can see how diverse Jazz can be; they could be three seperate genres. how someone can say they dont like Jazz on the whole is beyond me. most people havnt properly listened to jazz, just as most havnt classical for that matter, and heard one band they dont like and then judged the entire genre- some that is like me saying i dont like whiskey after having a jack daniels and coke :D

You guys have it the nail right on the head. I have found that when a lot of people say they don't like jazz they say something like, "I just can't stand that Kenny G guy." They don't understand that jazz is really kind of a supergenre with many subgenres like swing, bebop, cool, free, fusion, contemporary and too some extent (depending on your perspective) latin. I'm not trying to convert the world. I make it a point to understand something before I say I can't stand it. I have caught flack before for being a jazz musician. I'd rather someone say, "I don't really know/understand jazz that much, but what I've heard I don't really like" than to to say "I hate jazz" based on listening to one or two musicians. If they have heard a lot of what jazz has to offer and still don't like it, that's fine with me. As I said before everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[iamraisen]

You guys have it the nail right on the head. I have found that when a lot of people say they don't like jazz they say something like, "I just can't stand that Kenny G guy." They don't understand that jazz is really kind of a supergenre with many subgenres like swing, bebop, cool, free, fusion, contemporary and too some extent (depending on your perspective) latin. I'm not trying to convert the world. I make it a point to understand something before I say I can't stand it. I have caught flack before for being a jazz musician. I'd rather someone say, "I don't really know/understand jazz that much, but what I've heard I don't really like" than to to say "I hate jazz" based on listening to one or two musicians. If they have heard a lot of what jazz has to offer and still don't like it, that's fine with me. As I said before everyone is entitled to their opinion.

as with all styles of music, i can understand how people do not like certain elements. however the one band that is an exception to this is E.S.T (Esbjorn Svensson Trio), a swedish jazz band. if you ever get chance to hear their 'seven days of falling' album you will understand what i mean.

[Wolf]

I'll will see if I can track it down! :D

[choconutjoe]

however the one band that is an exception to this is E.S.T (Esbjorn Svensson Trio), a swedish jazz band. if you ever get chance to hear their 'seven days of falling' album you will understand what i mean.
I almost saw them live when I was in Norway but I didn't have enough money left for a ticket :bang: :bang: :bang:

Oh how I cried.

[Omicron]

Like YODA said, I always chuckle when people say they hate jazz, when all of Western popular music, with the possible exception of Country and other folk-based music, has grown out of the jazz tradition.

[Paratus]

I like some jazz, except the pathetic excuse for jazz that is elevater music. Mostly it depends on my mood when I listen to jazz. Jazz/Blues is good stuff to listen to on a late night drive home

[Wolf]

Like YODA said, I always chuckle when people say they hate jazz, when all of Western popular music, with the possible exception of Country and other folk-based music, has grown out of the jazz tradition.

Actually a lot of today's country and some older too has strong ties to blues which some would put under the jazz umbrella. At the very least blues is related to jazz with it's swing/shuffle feel.

[Omicron]

There has always been a great deal of cross-pollination between jazz and the blues. It's often hard to tell where one starts and the other stops. And like you said, you probably can argue that even country has been at least indirectly affected by jazz by now.