View Full Version : Why does everyone hate america?
Adam
06-Jun-2003, 12:28 AM
This is about the most unsaid thread you can have on a forum..
It strikes me as a bit odd that it seems like everyone in the world (especially people from the left wing) think america is the ******* nation on earth. I've been there once and the people seemed extremely nice, if a bit shallow.
Why, do you think, the USA is the target of so much hate from other nations?
Andy Murray
06-Jun-2003, 12:33 AM
Success breeds contempt.
I just think that its the same as in many other cases, you only get to hear about the negative stuff.
Greg-VT
06-Jun-2003, 02:34 AM
What negative stuff? Some would say that It's positive stuff that they hear.
Adam, do mean countrys that hate America, or people?
I don't think people generally 'hate' America. But think their stance on globe is a bit tall. I think they should sit down and have a few cold ones (beer, for you weird warm beer drinking people). They basically advertise themselves on the globe, and they draw in bad attitudes because of it. If they let the UN do what they are doing I.E Standing up against countrys who they 'suspect', then they would have a much better view cast upon them, and have much less trouble. But to me, the Bush admin just wants to do the opposite of that. They want to be seen on top of the world. And it's not working anywhere except in their own country.
-grego
Spike
06-Jun-2003, 02:43 AM
Like how dumb Dubya is?
Greg-VT
06-Jun-2003, 02:45 AM
I don't know about dumb... 'Blind' might be a more suited word :)
Mo Lung
06-Jun-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Andy Murray
Success breeds contempt.
Surely you don't believe it's that simple!
Andy Murray
06-Jun-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Mo Lung
Surely you don't believe it's that simple!
Oh no,
I've got loads more one-liners.
For the record Alan, this thread got stripped down from 12 posts to 3 last night.
There's usually always a reason if you look hard enough.
Adam
06-Jun-2003, 09:18 AM
Might have been the diplomatic thing to do Andy. :D
I mean the fact that all you see when you turn on TV are people protesting against america and it's foreign policy. Where are the "for" protesters? That would be nice to see for a change. "We love America" The debate would be less onesided that way.
I think Andy may be right to an extent, but I would personally be more inclined to dislike America because of the fact they can seemingly take over any country they please without trouble.
Also the "If you're not with us, you're against us" I find to be very close to fascism.
I really hope there doesn't erupt a large scale war of westerners/America vs the muslims. That would be WW3.
Cain
06-Jun-2003, 10:12 AM
What?
What happend? This thread got moderated?
Damn!!! I missed out all the fun :(
|Cain|
Knight_Errant
06-Jun-2003, 10:29 AM
You did. You also missed out on a load of my peculiar antics involving the phrase 'squashing things with their big fat tanks and arses'...
And I don't think Dubya and his evil-spirited crew should take credit for things that they have vehemently opposed- i.e. everything I like about America (freedom of speech, supposed freedom of religious belief though this is being eroded, liberal easy-going culture etc.)
johndoch
06-Jun-2003, 10:31 AM
I heard once
“With regards to World politics America plays poker while the world plays Chess”
I guess it means America comes in gets what it wants leaves the table and when it comes back to the table it plays with a new hand whereas the world is playing a longer drawn out strategy and remembers past indiscretions.
WhiteWizard
06-Jun-2003, 10:41 AM
personally i think Americans are good people maybe they could do with being a bit more informed about the rest of the world i supposed you could say that about any country but i feel that Americans "can" come across like that. i think most people right now are more against Bush than America. Some of his comments are just ludicrous like we will hunt down all the terrorists because we are America i mean come on
America is a country that has achieved a lot of things but sometimes they act like the big bully and throw there weight around in situations they shouldn't
pgm316
06-Jun-2003, 10:45 AM
hated simply because they are wealthy.
Its hard to accept people in other countries living SO much better than yourself. Its easier to put it down to moral reasons and being anti God.
Why is it some cultures are like that? Taking wealth instead of generating it, and then calling it evil! :D
America isn't perfect, but who is? There's lots of Jews in America which means Israel can do no wrong! Easy to find reasons to hate someone if you want to.
The question is, who hates America, or should that be who hates America and Britain? :p
debz
06-Jun-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Adam
Why, do you think, the USA is the target of so much hate from other nations?
i like america i think it is a lovely country and i think the reason ppl dont like it is because they simply dont understand their culture, things are different over there and ppl cant accept that.
but then agen things are different in every country so i havent really answered the question! :)
johndoch
06-Jun-2003, 12:42 PM
Quote "hated simply because they are wealthy."
Probably more to do with what made them wealthy in the first place.
Andy Murray
06-Jun-2003, 12:45 PM
So there are no poor people in America?
I don't hate America!
I'm wondering if people here, who are expressing some negativity to the USA have ever been there?
johndoch
06-Jun-2003, 12:49 PM
I dont hate america and in all honesty I dont hate any country out there. But there are people who will hate just for the sake of hating.
debz
06-Jun-2003, 01:16 PM
i dont think i really hate anything! :D
r4bid
06-Jun-2003, 01:47 PM
begin silly comment
I think people hate us because of the second Amendment right we all have in America.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
There are a lot of people out there in other countries who are very hot and wish they could bear their arms in a T-shirt...
end silly comment
Seriously though I think its partially a money thing and partially a nationalistic desire of other nations to think that they have the right system themselves.
The theocracies of the middle east don't like us because we aren't a theocracy and the dictators don't like us because we are free. The french don't like us because Rummsfield said some stupid things.
As much as we try to impose democracy on the world there are many other countries trying to impose far less friendly systems on their neighbors.
morphus
06-Jun-2003, 02:16 PM
"Easy to find reasons to hate someone if you want to."
Isn't it just!
A lot of people hold grudges.
The U.S is rather like the old British Empire - weren't the British once top of the hate list?
pgm316
06-Jun-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by johndoch
Quote "hated simply because they are wealthy."
Probably more to do with what made them wealthy in the first place.
What was it that made em wealthy? Mainly a good economy, nothing more sinister than most poor countires.
Andy Murray
So there are no poor people in America?
I don't hate America!
I'm wondering if people here, who are expressing some negativity to the USA have ever been there?
And I'm sure the poor people in America don't like America either. When you look at the stats. Something like 10% of the world population has 90% of the world wealth, And that 10% of people being 90% Christian, Situated in the western world America/Europe.
I really like America, but if I'd been born in a third world country always struggling to survive, would I like America....?
wayofthedragon
06-Jun-2003, 05:31 PM
WHAT!!!!!
Hates America!!!!
who hates my country?
I'll crush them all:woo:
:love: just kidding, tho' I'm an American citizen born and raise, I still don't agree with everything they do, and the way they are at times. And I don't have to. But, It's my country, so I guess I have to still put up with it:(
I won't say I hate it tho' the goverment might get me:D
seriously though, I love my country, but still I don't agree with everything they do and they way they are at times. It's just ridiculous
JediMasterChris
06-Jun-2003, 05:46 PM
I agree with wayofthedragon, I just moved here but I have found the people to be alot nicer than I expected.
Joe karate
06-Jun-2003, 07:01 PM
People hate it because we think we know whats best for the rest of the world. So saddam is a bad guy, where are his weapons of mass destruction? Yes the people hate him, but they hate us to!
So what gives us the right to change their government, shouldn't they be happy??
Well what if Hitler had won and "changed" all of our governments for our own good. After all he thought he was doing the right thing.
THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YODA
06-Jun-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Andy Murray
So there are no poor people in America?
I don't hate America!
I'm wondering if people here, who are expressing some negativity to the USA have ever been there?
I've been and I'd move there tomorrow if the job / family / money situation allowed.
Mo Lung
10-Jun-2003, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by YODA
I've been and I'd move there tomorrow if the job / family / money situation allowed.
Why?
YODA
10-Jun-2003, 07:19 AM
Because I like it.
I like the people, the weather and the lifestyle.
And the training opportunities :D
Jazman
10-Jun-2003, 09:46 AM
I must recommend, southern california has some of the nicest weather I've seen in the whole country. (Although you gotta be careful where you go with all the fruits and nuts around here.
Gotta go visit the UK also, sounds like a nice place from the info I've heard to(Although I just can't stand not understanding people who speak the same language as me...)
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Anyways, back on the subject, I believe that people express their hate for us because of our name being so promminant in the news. If you heard about the country Kebayakana everyday wouldn't you begin to hate them also. And to point out, we may have a very high standard of living in the US but many other countries have a just as high standard of living as us. Another reason might possibly be just simple jealousy, everyone loves their country(well... maybe not everyone...) and wants it to be on the top. So why not attempt to bring down the country which seems to be on top, thereby raising up your country and giving it recognition.
Knight_Errant
10-Jun-2003, 03:09 PM
Um, these are all extremely bourgeois perspectives. I would dearly love to hear someone's opinion from a country where it isn't easier to buy a new plate than wash the dishes...
LilBunnyRabbit
10-Jun-2003, 04:15 PM
The theocracies of the middle east don't like us because we aren't a theocracy and the dictators don't like us because we are free.
Free? So you can walk down the street nude if you want to? Or walk into a porn shop and buy a video without being checked for ID? Or buy any book you want without it being censored or even banned?
As much as we try to impose democracy on the world there are many other countries trying to impose far less friendly systems on their neighbors.
At least the other countries operate under the systems they're trying to impose, remember that America is a Republic, not a democracy.
Something like 10% of the world population has 90% of the world wealth, And that 10% of people being 90% Christian
And people say religion has no real world application.
So what gives us the right to change their government, shouldn't they be happy??
Their government was threatening the rest of the world, that gives the world the right to interfere.
THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually its frozen insurance salesmen.
I believe that people express their hate for us because of our name being so promminant in the news. If you heard about the country Kebayakana everyday wouldn't you begin to hate them also.
Hate to break this to you, but on other nation's news you're not quite so prominent.
Um, these are all extremely bourgeois perspectives. I would dearly love to hear someone's opinion from a country where it isn't easier to buy a new plate than wash the dishes...
Well then, you'll have to buy them a computer. Alternatively you could just go up to London, or Cardiff since its closer, and ask the people on the street.
Jazman
11-Jun-2003, 01:30 AM
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Hate to break this to you, but on other nation's news you're not quite so prominent.
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don't "hate to break it to me", that actually makes me quite relieved. wish I'da known that earlier. but really, we have to be the most talked about country in the world, well, with Iraq, Israel, Britain, North Korea, etc... yeah, I guess I'm relieved we aren't the most talked about
Knight_Errant
11-Jun-2003, 11:07 AM
Yeah, when anyone mentions America they're like soooo 'ah yeah, America, ...' . The subtext is '****s...'
Casado
17-Jun-2003, 12:13 PM
The economic blackmail of Mexico, Bolivia, Ecuador etc. Is a pretty corupt, self rightous and ilegal crime. It stops these countries developing and keeps millions in poverty.
Supporting the Zionists in Isreal because every word of the bible is taken by the US to be an absolute truth is a contrad)ction in a so called "secular" state. It has also allowed Isreal to break (illegaly of course) more UN resolutions than any other nation.
The US's habit of painting the world into good and bad by their own biased perception of world affairs rather than by international consent, irritates other governments and the citizens in those countries.
This is why the US of A is greatly disliked (hate is too strong a word).
Check out books by Micheal Moore, Naom Chompski and read up on people like Che Guevara who tried to end the US's manipulation of latin American countries (the CIA murdered him).
Anyway, most Amebicans are pretty good people and aren't too keen on everything their government does (same in all countries). It's all too easy to criticise America and forget other less powerful countries that have big faults.
Adam
17-Jun-2003, 12:26 PM
I believe that the reason the US backs Zionists is more that there are so many jews in America and many of them are rich and might boykott the government if support to Israel was cut.
Casado
17-Jun-2003, 12:57 PM
That's very true Adam. I was just trying to give reasons why the US is disliked without going too much into detail.
I feel that a lot of the reason is US politicians only really debate international issues at the National level. This means that non-USA viewpoints and cultural differences are not taken into account.
Another reason is that the media in the US is not part of the culture as much as it is here in Europe and education on international affairs is very poor. In other words the US general public is not aware of world affairs.
Marku
17-Jun-2003, 01:00 PM
for UK people. They'res meant to be a program about america and what people think of them (No idea of the time or channel)
Knight_Errant
18-Jun-2003, 02:58 PM
'what the world thinks of america', BBC2, 9:00 presented by Andrew Marr. Probably gonna be one long 'bleeeeeeeeeeeep'!
kchenault
20-Jun-2003, 08:35 PM
I have a question about economic blackmail. Is America responsible for the economic standing of other countries? Do we have to support them monetarily? Just something to spice up the conversation. Can't wait to hear the answers.
LilBunnyRabbit
20-Jun-2003, 09:52 PM
Read up on Cuba sometime, Cuba was a country with only one real export, sugar. And only one customer, America. They were pretty much forbidden from selling to other countries, and in fact when they did try to sell sugar to Russia, America started bombing the sugar fields. Admittedly Cuba had become communist at about the same time.
America used to be interested in only its own benefit, no matter what the cost to other countries. Where do you think the original child labour started? Not in America, no, but at its instigation in its desire for lower prices. Ever heard the phrase banana republic?
America should not be responsible for other countries economies, but on the same morality they should at least treat those countries fairly.
aikiMac
21-Jun-2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by YODA
Because I like it.
I like the people, the weather and the lifestyle.
And the training opportunities :D
Well thank you, my good man! I'm quite fond of the USA too. If I had my preference I'd be in a southern California beach city myself. Can't get any better than San Diego or the three Beach cities immediately south of the Los Angeles airport. As it is I'm stuck in the Arizona desert. I haven't traveled England but all the Englishmen I've met over here were quite nice. I once had the luxury of traveling Scotland for a few days. I've been wanting to return ever since. Breathtakingly beautiful land and delightful speech. Best English-language accent there is. I wish I could talk like that. As a rule Americans think very highly of Scotland. William Wallace, Rob Roy, the Highlander, that sort of attitude. Neither Rome nor England could conquer them, nor could England beat us. We like that. And we like that Scots are the only men who can wear skirts and still be macho. Believe it or not, some company over here is actually marketing denim and leather kilts for construction workers to wear on the job. They're called "utili-kilts." I have half a mind to buy a pair.
shadow joe
21-Jun-2003, 01:58 AM
here's my little light:
America as in the people themselves are not haters. We are however divided into two groups. Those who understand how to relate to people as human beings and those who desire nothing but power. That second group preys on the citezens of our countries through our corrupt news media, so that there large audiences of middle aged white people will live in fear of all things and can therefore be controlled.
When people mention america as "Evil" or "insert superlative" it's usually a reflection of that power class that wants nothing but more power. I.e. George W.
A lot of us here want the US to admit to its senseless killing, poor economic tactics, and blatent lying. The rest of the population is pretty much in the dark with stickers on their car that read "peace through victory"
i just need one on mine that says "peace through killing"
the news is feeding us a marketing campaign that features the war on "terror" but they never describe terror or what that is. Just that we've got to stop it with better than firepower and military force.
I have hope for the future but not the next four years. I'm pretty sure dubyah is getting re-elected.
he is the hate of america personified IMHO.
Knight_Errant
29-Jun-2003, 01:32 PM
I think the very fact that people can ask the question in the top of the thread is a reason why many, after dubya has been elected it would be fair to say most, countries are so pissed off with america. The vast majority of Americans are completely ignorant as to the offence that their country's commercial operations have caused in the rest of the world. If you had been lied to all your life by everybody, how would you know?
YODA
29-Jun-2003, 01:44 PM
Can someone please explain "Dubya" to me - ta muchly :D
Adam
29-Jun-2003, 03:26 PM
me too. Why's he called dubya? Sounds russian.
Peaceful_John
29-Jun-2003, 05:19 PM
George W. Bush = George "Dubya" Bush. The reason he is referred to as "Dubya" is because his father George Bush was president some years back.
YODA
29-Jun-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Peaceful_John
George W. Bush = George "Dubya" Bush. The reason he is referred to as "Dubya" is because his father George Bush was president some years back.
I still don't get it.
Why "Dubya?"
Oh - wait - hang on - Dubya - "double U"
I GET IT!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Peaceful_John
29-Jun-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Free? So you can walk down the street nude if you want to?
As long as its in areas designated for such things so as not to offend the people who don't want to see a nude person - yes
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Or walk into a porn shop and buy a video without being checked for ID?
No, but this is to protect minors - however I can buy a porn anytime I want - no censors, no little black bubbles over the genitalia, just totally nude totally hard-core porn - if i wanted anyway. All I would need is an Identification card - which anyone can get - that states i'm over 18/21 depending on the state.
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Or buy any book you want without it being censored or even banned?
Yes. The anarchist cookbook (how to make plastic explosive, hack phone lines, etc.) is fore sale at many bookstores nationwide, however it is way harder to find than the bible, let me tell ya.
Originally posted by ckdstudent
And people say religion has no real world application.
Other than control - no - religion has no real world application. Consider that most "christians" in America, percentage wise, live in what's know as the "Bible Belt" (basically most of the mid-west and many southern states) - a region known for having, relative to the rest of the country, far inferior education and economy. Also, most of the nations vegetables come from this area as this is where most of the dirt-farms are located (i.e., poor people). All the major capitalist corporations are located in larger cities, allot of which are not in the "bible belt" - these places are where the stereotypical wealthy, successful americans live - and with a fewer percentage being religious (although still quite large). However, a majority of the American Scientific community is Atheist (around 45 %, with 15% being doubful/undecided, and 40% being religous). If you consider the "wealth" of knowledge they have it kinda makes you go "hmmm".
Also, Americans are religious because they are taught to be, and are taught to be regardless of them being a poor dirt farmer, or a wealthy stock-broker. I.E. Religion has nothing to do with the US economy, and obviously isn't helping our crime rate to awful much.
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Their government was threatening the rest of the world, that gives the world the right to interfere.
I agree totally.
People don't like americans because they are usually pretty oblivious to other cultures, unless it somehow has to do directly with the U.S. We're also ate up with "we're right and you're wrong" when it comes to religion, government, and tradition.
It is, however, one of the best places to live in my opinion, especially for somebody like Yoda who knows Computers. According to one of my College Professors there are more I.T. job openings every year than U.S. IT college graduates. That's why there are more people from foreign countries in the IT field than just about any other Professional field in the country.
Didn't mean to pick on you CKDStudent - you just happen to be one of the last post I read and you had alot of material :D
Peaceful_John
29-Jun-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by YODA
I still don't get it.
Why "Dubya?"
Oh - wait - hang on - Dubya - "double U"
I GET IT!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
That's right - don't feel bad it took me a while to catch on and I live here.:o
LilBunnyRabbit
30-Jun-2003, 03:29 PM
Neither Rome nor England could conquer them, nor could England beat us.
Check your history, that is actual history, not the rubbish Hollywood puts out.
the news is feeding us a marketing campaign that features the war on "terror" but they never describe terror or what that is.
Look at London while the IRA were at their most active. Funded, incidentally, by Americans.
No, but this is to protect minors - however I can buy a porn anytime I want - no censors, no little black bubbles over the genitalia, just totally nude totally hard-core porn - if i wanted anyway.
Do the minors want to be protected? Ask the average 14-year old boy if he'd like to be able to watch porn.
(around 45 %, with 15% being doubful/undecided, and 40% being religous). If you consider the "wealth" of knowledge they have it kinda makes you go "hmmm".
45% is not a majority, and agnostics do in fact believe in something, they're just not quite sure what, so by those statistics that's 55% who believe in something.
According to one of my College Professors there are more I.T. job openings every year than U.S. IT college graduates.
Same with physics over here. :-)
KickChick
30-Jun-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Do the minors want to be protected? Ask the average 14-year old boy if he'd like to be able to watch porn.
... that is why they are minors!!
When they become the "legal" age they get to do all that "good stuff" like drink alcohol and cuddle up to a good porno mag
Ask the average American parent (such as myself) and see what kind of responses you get to your question.
We have alot of rights as Americans... but many are not absolute, and their protection is very broad.
johndoch
30-Jun-2003, 04:11 PM
America seems to use its economic muscle everywhere it goes. Take an example that happened a few years ago.
There was the great banana debate between America/UK. Supposedly the UK buys bananas from its ex-colony Jamaica. America said this was unfair and said that the British should buy cheaper bananas from Brazil (Fair Trade). When the UK refused America said it would cease to buy certain goods from Britain therefore damaging the UK economy for not towing the US line.
Funnily enough the Banana companies were all owned by US companies. Would the US supported Brazillian bananas if they were not American owned.:confused:
LilBunnyRabbit
30-Jun-2003, 09:51 PM
When they become the "legal" age they get to do all that "good stuff" like drink alcohol and cuddle up to a good porno mag
Dammit, I keep on forgetting that when you reach legal age your judgement suddenly leaps upwards in quality.
Ask the average American parent (such as myself) and see what kind of responses you get to your question.
Ah yes, I forgot that you teach S.E. in schools. Better for most of the kids to learn from embarassed teachers who stammer their way through half-hearted summaries. Sorry, just remembering my own class. There wasn't one kid who left that class who wasn't convinced that they knew more than the teacher.
We have alot of rights as Americans... but many are not absolute, and their protection is very broad.
Yep, for example the right to arm bears. Do you need specially toughened weapons for that?
There was the great banana debate between America/UK.
Ah yes, the joy of trying to economically bully your only remaining true ally. I remember reading about that.
pgm316
30-Jun-2003, 10:17 PM
I like america, can we all sing the anthem now, how does it go? :eek: :D
YODA
30-Jun-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by pgm316
I like america, can we all sing the anthem now, how does it go? :eek: :D
Something about bananas and spangles I think. :D
Mmmmm.....Spangles!
Andy Murray
30-Jun-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Ah yes, I forgot that you teach S.E. in schools. Better for most of the kids to learn from embarassed teachers who stammer their way through half-hearted summaries. Sorry, just remembering my own class. There wasn't one kid who left that class who wasn't convinced that they knew more than the teacher.
Hey Jimmy,
Ask Uncle Andy, he'll explain all about it by PM. No need to be embarassed, we've all got to learn sometime. :D
aikiMac
30-Jun-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Check your history, that is actual history, not the rubbish Hollywood puts out.
I thought I did. Rome took the southern extreme of Scotland but could not maintain its frontier border. Rome pulled out without ever conquering the nation as a whole. England and Scotland bickered for centuries over the border (which again is in the south of Scotland) and English kings often treated Scotland as a vassal, but English control existed mostly in the lowlands (which again is in the south). The two nations stopped fighting upon the signing of a treaty of unification, and not because England had overran Scotland with superior military prowess.
If you think this is not factually correct you may correct me.
Peaceful_John
30-Jun-2003, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Do the minors want to be protected? Ask the average 14-year old boy if he'd like to be able to watch porn.
I did!! lol The term "Free country" really is a blurry term. There are some countries that aren't any less "free" than we are - like Canada and Most of Europe. Even Mexico - especially Mexico - you can drink there at around 14 I think, and get a prescription drug for just about anything.
Originally posted by ckdstudent
45% is not a majority, and agnostics do in fact believe in something, they're just not quite sure what, so by those statistics that's 55% who believe in something.
I didn't say 15% were agnostic - I said they were undecided as to the existence of a god or doubtful of it. This is the definition of agnostic according to Merriam-Webster:
a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god.
So, no you can't say 55% believe in something, even if the above 15% were agnostic, which they're not - they're undecided.
Technically a majority is half or more, so I'll rephrase what I meant
45 % have decided that they don't believe in god. 40 % do. 15 % don't know whether or not they believe in god. Therefore, a majority are not as of yet a believer in god, but could be in the future, if 11% of the undecided scientists decide to believe in god.
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Same with physics over here. :-) [/B]
I wanted to major in quantum physics, but the company I work for will only pay for computer or manager related fields.:mad:
THAT STINKS!!
Andy Murray
01-Jul-2003, 12:03 AM
Come to think of it, this thread should really be called;
"Why doesn't everybody hate the English?" :D
LilBunnyRabbit
01-Jul-2003, 02:26 AM
Ask Uncle Andy, he'll explain all about it by PM. No need to be embarassed, we've all got to learn sometime.
Well, given that I'm getting married on Saturday, if you could explain in brief, it would be most helpful.
Andy Murray
01-Jul-2003, 07:18 AM
Certainly Jimmy, CMA secrets on the way over to you.
Don't concentrate on the finger.........or you will miss all the heavenly glory! :D
Knight_Errant
01-Jul-2003, 12:06 PM
I think people hate the english a lot less nowadays because they are no longer ruling the world. All the same, my message to the entire world is: Be on your guard! We're still *******s!
LilBunnyRabbit
01-Jul-2003, 02:10 PM
I think people hate the english a lot less nowadays because they are no longer ruling the world. All the same, my message to the entire world is: Be on your guard! We're still *******s!
Just wanted to remind you that not only can we call on the commonwealth for support, we also have America's ear should we ever need it. That's pretty close to ruling the world.
johndoch
01-Jul-2003, 02:42 PM
????? No one nation has ever ruled over the world and probably never will.
Knight_Errant
02-Jul-2003, 03:43 PM
No, but several nations have enjoyed the status of being the dominant world power e.g. Spain, Holland, The UK, America.
Grifter
02-Jul-2003, 10:55 PM
Man some people take this being free way too far. The only way i can think of to have a completely free country would be Anarchy. And i dont think anarchy could ever work. Most people wouldnt want to work, people would be murdering others and stealing with absolutely no consequences. Nothing would get done no running water no pumpling and electricity. All because you want to to be able to walk down the street naked when you go buy porn. instead of thinking of the goods that would come out of an absolute free government, think of all that bad that would come of it.
Melanie
02-Jul-2003, 11:42 PM
I concur Grifter. The expression "rules are made to be broken" pops in to mind when reading this thread at times, however, if we were all a bunch of law abiding citizens, how boring would that be?
Besides there is more to life than just the rules set aside by Governments, there's also what is considered decent, fair and ethical - i.e. euthansia. Law and order is down to the perception of the majority as acceptable and down to the minority to challenge/abuse it.
I couldn't and wouldn't want to imagine what life would be like without Law and Order (good series also ;) )
Peaceful_John
03-Jul-2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by ckdstudent
Well, given that I'm getting married on Saturday, if you could explain in brief, it would be most helpful.
Congratulations and best wishes!!:)
Spirit Reaper
15-Jul-2003, 12:36 PM
Americans are the fattest, laziest, richest people of them all!!! thats why other countries people hate us!!! hehe........i wouldn't be surprised if the other countries people were raised to hate us.......
no i know why, its simply because its in our nature to hate and kill our own kind....and we have money and power.....they dont have as much...............OH CRAP, you guys made me THINK!!
hehehe
Paratus
17-Jul-2003, 06:47 AM
If you hate a country, don't hate its people, hate its government. Generally when you see a different country do something outragious you'll find its people are just upset as you are. If you hear a media report asking people on the street of that country and they say something arrogant they don't represent the people as a whole. Also, visit a country first before you hate it, it'll change your view. Oh, and if your gonna visit another country/culture take some time to learn the culture and the language, show some respect and you'll be respected. This goes for everyone everywhere
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