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kungfufighter
28-Mar-2005, 08:25 PM
Ok, I'm wondering, how the hell do you boxers have those reactions? dodge, dodge punch punch. I mean this is the closest place i come to boxing because there's like no boxing places where i live so how do you practice your dodges and how do you get them to work with instinct, because when ever someone throws a punch at me i always throw my hand up to block or else get whaled at. :eek:

Ikken Hisatsu
28-Mar-2005, 08:31 PM
sparring

kungfufighter
28-Mar-2005, 08:59 PM
Really? is that it?

Ikken Hisatsu
28-Mar-2005, 09:01 PM
basically. when we focus on boxing we will practice combinations such as 1,2, dodge, 2,3, dodge, 3,4, weave... but to apply that you gotta use it in sparring.

edit- i should mention before someone else does that for us a 4 isnt an uppercut its a hook with the rear hand. we call our uppercuts a negative. dont ask why because i dont know :D

Yukimushu
28-Mar-2005, 09:06 PM
sparring

^^ What he said.

It's just constant sparring, training and practise.

Floor or ceiling balls can help alittle.

faster than you
28-Mar-2005, 09:24 PM
when it comes to head movement it seems some people have it and some people don't.
training will help a bit, but training is no guarantee that you will develop 'slick' head movement. 'slick' head and body movement is even more rare.

Nrv4evr
29-Mar-2005, 12:00 AM
If you spar a lot, the repetition gets ingrained into your muscle memory. So, after countless times of being hit in the head (believe me, you'll get good quickly after getting hit a few times in the kisser), you start to know when to dodge, and eventually, as soon as you see the punch being drawn back, you'll automatically dodge. To an extent, it depends on "if you have it or not", but most of this can be overcome by constant training.

Jamo2
29-Mar-2005, 12:09 AM
Yeah, just padwork and sparring. We have a bag thats about 2 feet tall, which looks like an uppercut bag but the lowest part is about same height as your head, and you hit the main part which then swings back and the bottom part hits you unless you move, its handy ive never seen one before in my life.

WonderWoman
29-Mar-2005, 01:32 AM
Another thing for practicing "dodges" is to get a rope and tie it from wall to wall...shoulder level. practice "slipping" from side to side going under the rope. "Bob and weave" and throw punches in between. It's great for the legs, too.

shootodog
29-Mar-2005, 02:27 AM
i have a unique way of doing that, that no other boxer has thought of: pad work and sparring. :D

WonderWoman
29-Mar-2005, 05:50 PM
Pad work and sparring is a given....I was simply offerring an additional exercise to perform when alone..........

jls1znv9999
29-Mar-2005, 07:24 PM
Pad work and lots of sparring practice! As said many times. Basic instincts of a fighter come out, you either have it or not. Another thing you didnt ask is that Muay Thai can either be a Striker or Clincher. I can be devastating with my legs in the clinch i have a lethal knee that can strike the face chin or head with percision. Just depends on skill and willingness to learn.

johndoch
30-Mar-2005, 03:37 PM
all of the above plus shadow boxing and cardio work to keep reaction times fast during longer fights

jabcrosshook
30-Mar-2005, 10:57 PM
Pad work and lots of sparring practice! As said many times. Basic instincts of a fighter come out, you either have it or not.

Natural ability plays a part, but practice does wonders, too :D

Hades
19-May-2005, 10:49 AM
sparring... like mentioned before.. comes as close to a real fight as possible... and helps overcome the fears and other (negative) psychological effects that occur in a fight..

MerKaBa
03-Jun-2005, 07:23 PM
Lots of ab workouts and a really small, loose double end bag helps too... that's if you have no one to spar ofcourse.

slipthejab
03-Jun-2005, 08:39 PM
Most importantly you need to learn to box.

When people post about sparring in relation to boxing - they have most likley been shown by a coach or a trainer how to bob, weave and slip. It's not very natural for most people... this is why there are boxing lessons.

Some people are more talented than others. Though it can be developed to a certain degree with training. But if you are just going to spar with someone who is also not a boxer then your chances of getting it down pat are slim to none.

There are very few other MA's that have the level of repetitive training for something like this. Boxers train this day in and day out... and when you get it wrong... you go home with headache and sore nose.

So if your thinking about trying to learn to bob, weave, slip by sparring with TKD guys or others... it's a waste of time. They are not throwing the same kinds of punches that boxer would and since you don't know what your doing yourself you could be ingraining bad habits that could get you knocked out. Many other MA's seem not to break at the waist when ducking punches... boxers use a huge amount of torso movement with the feet planted solid... and then returning fire when the dodge is completed. Many dodges are done in double's, triples and even X4. Just watch Roy Jone Jr. - or look at many of the Tyson fights.

Get to a boxing class. If there isn't one in your area... drive to one. If you can't/don't drive... bribe your mom/dad/older bro. Take the bus.

If it's still not possible try to get boxing lessons on tape. Though to be honest I haven't seen many that cover to any depth the head movement side of things very well.

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Wet to a boxing %ym or c~ass if )ou are cerious.

Shen Yin
03-Jun-2005, 09:32 PM
Another thing for practicing "dodges" is to get a rope and tie it from wall to wall...shoulder level. practice "slipping" from side to side going under the rope. "Bob and weave" and throw punches in between. It's great for the legs, too.

Yeah, I've done this practice before. It's really effective for this type of agility.

BigBoss
04-Jun-2005, 12:24 AM
Ok, I'm wondering, how the hell do you boxers have those reactions? dodge, dodge punch punch. I mean this is the closest place i come to boxing because there's like no boxing places where i live so how do you practice your dodges and how do you get them to work with instinct, because when ever someone throws a punch at me i always throw my hand up to block or else get whaled at. :eek:
Endless round of sparring. There's no substitute.

Yukimushu
05-Jun-2005, 09:12 PM
Endless round of sparring. There's no substitute.


That's it right there...

With regular sparring, you get used to having fists thrown at you - which in turn helps you relax, stay calm, focused and lose the flinch factor.

Hades
06-Jun-2005, 11:38 AM
it's either that, or start taking amphetamines... :)

sliced
07-Jun-2005, 01:14 AM
in reply to how they dodge and move comes from the not wanting to be hit. if you compare the amount of hits thrown from other styles of fighting to boxing you find that boxing has far more hits thrown at your target. also in training u practice more hits to be thrown. with no below the waist targets and no leg attacking moves allowed in boxing, with 2 hands and 40% of your body exempt from being attacked you learn no aviod avoid and when you master that avoid again. also apart from having your hands up to block of soften an incoming blow, there is no other defence apart from avoid unlike most martial art styles.