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abby
03-Feb-2004, 04:15 AM
are all TKD one-steps the same? i cannot find a website that lists one-steps. (i have to know 7 one-steps for advancement from white belt, but many places it looks like only have to know 1 or 2.) i can't quite remember all 7, was hoping i could find some online instructions.

Poop-Loops
03-Feb-2004, 04:46 AM
Need to know 7? I only needed to know 4.

Let's see. In my dojang it's:

1) Knife-hand middle block, punch to solar plexus

2) Knife-hand middle block, punch to base of nose.

3) Knife-hand middle block, knife-hand strike to neck.

4) Same as 3, but then you pull him in and attack the other side of the neck.

5) Middle block, then slide in elbow strike to solar plexus.

6) Same as 2, but then you grab his arm with your blocking hand, retract the punching arm, pull him in, and reverse punch to the solar plexus.

7) Same as 6, but instead of punching, you do an elbow strike to the head.

No, they aren't all the same. A guy who took TKD in California says his were way different.

PL

Guy Mendiola
03-Feb-2004, 05:23 AM
The one steps is way diffrent and when I tested for my yellow belt and this was when I was white belt and I had to know 5 one steps like:

1)Avoiding to the right,stepping 45 degree to a riding stance and execute a knifehand guarding block with the left hand simultaneously punch with the right.

2)Stepping forward with the left to a forward stand executing a rising block with the left then punch with the right.

3)Avoiding and stepping to the left 45 degree to a riding stance simultaneously execute right outer forearm block then double punch(left & right)to the opponents rib cage area.

4)Avoiding to left 45 degree then execute a side kick with the right.

5)Step back with the right to a fighting stance then execute a front snap kick with the right.

taifun
03-Feb-2004, 06:46 AM
One-step requirements differ between schools. At mine we don't do one-steps until 6th gup (green). For my fifth gup ranking I need to know 10 different pre-selected sets. After that it's up to me and my imagination/understanding to select techniques for one-steps.

Only way to know what to do is to ask your instructor.


Taifun

Qis
03-Feb-2004, 08:59 AM
we've got to demonstrate 3, but are recommended to have 6 in case the tester asks for more.
ours is 3 step. i dont know when we start 1 step, but its not for a few belts methinks.
dont quite get the point in 3 step, appart form it gets you used to defending/moving, but it's fun trying new stuff.
what if i...

-Qis

taifun
03-Feb-2004, 11:47 AM
3 steps are mainly for working on distancing, control and timing.

Capt Ann
03-Feb-2004, 12:04 PM
Wow!

Lots of variation. At our school, we have three to six new ones to learn at each belt level.

White to white stripe:
1. Step R to Horse-back stance, L middle block, triple punch (two to midsection, third to face)
2. Step R to Horse-back stance, L middle block, R neck chop, elbow to side of face.
3. Step R to Horse-back stance, L middle block, R palm heel strike to face, R elbow uppercut.

They rapidly get more involved and complicated after that.

Turtle press (http://www.turtlepress.com/) has a video on WTF onesteps, but I haven't seen it, and don't know how it compares to what everyone else is being taught. Has anybody here ever seen it?

scott_tkd
03-Feb-2004, 12:59 PM
At our club, we teach 1 step sparring at Green/Blue belt.

We only show the students 3 set pieces, for which they have to master before we teach them more advanced 1-step involving kicks etc!

In gradings, the students are required to perform the 3 variations, then they may be asked to continue their own!

Scott

tkd ajumma
05-Feb-2004, 10:28 AM
In Korea we never had to know any to advance through the belts. We did them about once a year, so consequently I am 2nd Dan and totally useless at them. I have recently started at a club in England and feel a complete pratt when we get to that part of the class.

TKD
05-Feb-2004, 06:41 PM
At my school we do freestyle one steps, you just do whatever works with a minimum of 3 attacks. We have no preset one steps and you may or may not have to do any for testing, the Master varies testing to keep you on your toes so you don't get complacent.

Daniel1324
07-Feb-2004, 11:26 PM
My school...

1) Step left, riding stance, left outside block, right upset punch to solar plexus.

2) Step right, riding stance, left knife hand guard block, right reverse strike to temple.

3) Right cross block, turning 180 degrees so your back is facing them, in the same motion, reverse elbow strike to face, with same hand, chop to groin.

4) Jump into a 45 degree front stance, right front kick to solar plexus, right punch to face.

5) Step back into left fighting stance, right crescent kick, turning into a side kick.

6) (Aikido)Turn 180 degrees trapping their fist under left arm, grab with right hand and turn their wrist to put them on the floor, walk around their head into a wrist lock making them tap.
(This is a long one, but a good one)

7) Left push block, ridge hand to solar plexus, step behind them and throw them over your leg to ground, right punch to face.

8) Left outside block, right ridge hand to temple, right round kick to solar plexus.

9) Left kinfe hand guard block, wrapping your arm around theirs, right front elbow to face, grab back of their head and pull down striking their face with your knee.

tkdgirl01
08-Feb-2004, 01:16 AM
My class we start off with 3- steps, then at green belt we do one step sparring (freestyle).

chungmoomonkey
20-Feb-2004, 02:44 PM
at my place white belts anly ahve to no one ( thats fr kids adults have to lurn a few more ) and once u get to brown belt it dont matter if ur kid or adult u have to make up seven to get ur bb

craigwarren
20-Feb-2004, 10:56 PM
Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I learned the hard way at my last grading that when doing ANY form of matsogi, its important not to get used to only doing the same sets over and over again, sure they help when first learning, but afterwards its important to learn to be able to perform a defence for any attack you know, and practise with a wide range of attacks.

Start learning a few sets, performing them in order.
Start performing the sets in a non-specific order (RANDOM)
start mixing the sets up.
Finally perform with no sets, against lots of different people.

What do you do if you have learned 3 sets Perfectly and then when you grade you are paired with someone from another school who doesnt know yours sets and you dont know theirs?

You should have learned to think on your feet (read I SHOULD HAVE LEARNED TO THINK ON MY FEET).

Guy Mendiola
21-Feb-2004, 04:35 AM
Every Organization has diffrent one steps and variations of doing it.

Din
21-Feb-2004, 08:43 AM
it definately differs... here we dont do one step till green... for yellow we do 3 steps.
basicly the one step is up to your imagination as long as the techniques used are accurately done and are reasonable. we are required to show hand techniques, kicks, jumping kicks, side steps, and a combination of hand and leg techniques

Kenpo Kicker
21-Feb-2004, 09:26 AM
At my school we do freestyle one steps, you just do whatever works with a minimum of 3 attacks. We have no preset one steps and you may or may not have to do any for testing, the Master varies testing to keep you on your toes so you don't get complacent.


Thats sweet as hell :) . We have 4 set one-steps for each belt. I forgot all of them even the ez white belt one. We don't practice them often at or school. We have freestyle sparring your school got that too? I think thats a great idea to do freestyle one-steps if your students are not lazy. I'll have to remember that when I instruct. Goes with my philosophy.

Tosh
21-Feb-2004, 01:25 PM
You should have learned to think on your feet (read I SHOULD HAVE LEARNED TO THINK ON MY FEET).

ROFL! :D ................

mattsylvester
10-Mar-2004, 09:51 PM
Under SWIFT we had to perform a number made up by ourselves based on

hand
foot
foot and hand
hand and foot
jumping
lock

in that order. We weren't told what we had to do.

My students have to do 1 step from white belt and have 8 to perform to get to the next grade.

are all TKD one-steps the same? i cannot find a website that lists one-steps. (i have to know 7 one-steps for advancement from white belt, but many places it looks like only have to know 1 or 2.) i can't quite remember all 7, was hoping i could find some online instructions.

Another Muay Thai Guy
24-Mar-2005, 05:02 PM
Hi, dunno whether 1 step sparring is specific to the TAGB, if so and you don't know what I am talking about, it is simply a combination of counter attacks, chosen by the indivdual, in response to a single mid-section punch. I had to do it in my last grading, but now they expect you to make it a bit more advanced, so I was wondering whether anyone had any descriptions of, or links to, any 1 step combinations. Thanks.

Spookey
24-Mar-2005, 05:16 PM
Dear Sir,

First, 1-step sparring is a very old tradition in the martial arts and is utilized as a progressive portion of training in many different systems.

Secondly, I have several potential rescources available and would love to share some of the techniques used in our curricullum. In order to do so, I request that you inform me of your rank and the specifics of what is required by your instructor. I am hoping to gain an understanding of your ability so as to make appropriate suggestions! Feel free to email, private message, and I will submit to you my IM or phone for conversation!

TAEKWON!
Spookey

neryo_tkd
24-Mar-2005, 05:32 PM
doesn't your instructor drill these combinations with you?


it is simply a combination of counter attacks, chosen by the indivdual, in response to a single mid-section punch.

the 1 steps we do don't involve only mid section punches.

Lithanwif
24-Mar-2005, 05:43 PM
I think that what you are referring to, we call one step semi-free sparring. Try this link for some information :

http://www.gt-uk.net/tkd_info/set_sparring/default.asp

neryo_tkd
24-Mar-2005, 05:48 PM
check out this link:

http://www.ir.isas.jaxa.jp/~cpp/TKD/sd/index.html

as well as our TKD sticky with links:

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15903

Another Muay Thai Guy
24-Mar-2005, 06:35 PM
Neryo, Lithanwif: exactly what I was looking for, thanks very much.
P.S. Neryo, I have only ever done 1 step with the single obverse punch on both sides, I don't know whether the variations you described that you do are introduced at a higher level. Also, my instructor does demonstrate some 1 step combos, but encourages us to construct our own so that we ourselves can practice the techniques and learn what works well for ourselves. Cheers, future suggestions are still welcomed. :)

oni_sensei
24-Mar-2005, 10:29 PM
It's not so much a variation, as it is practising proper one-step sparring. Let's face it, a traditional obverse punch is not something you'd typically come across in combat, or even sparring for that matter. One-step can, and IMHO, should be performed with any technique the attacker can think of.

It's more than a matter of punch-block-punch-kick-kihap.

Taliar
27-Mar-2005, 10:34 AM
Free Form One step sperring with any attack and any defense is introduced at 2nd Dan level within the TAGB (syllabus wise) however practice of it as at the instructors discression, and we practice it much earlier.

oni_sensei
27-Mar-2005, 11:10 AM
It should be practiced from well before 2nd Dan. 6th Kup, IMHO, when the students are starting to get the basic feel for their techniques, and areused to three and two step sparring.

Lithanwif
27-Mar-2005, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=Another TKD Guy]Neryo, Lithanwif: exactly what I was looking for, thanks very much.QUOTE]
No worries mate, after all it's what we're all here for isnt it?
Well that and 'My style of TKD is better than...' arguments

Azeotrope
27-Mar-2005, 12:59 PM
Neryo, Lithanwif: exactly what I was looking for, thanks very much.

Thank you for me as well. I don't always choose responses which would work in real-life, so I am glad for all the examples I can get.

PS: Happy Easter to everyone, Christian or not. :)

Mandras
03-Mar-2006, 09:08 AM
Now I'm not sure how many of you practice 1-steps, so if this makes little to no sense please ignore.:)
I was wondering what everyone's favourite combinations are in 1-steps. With a partner they do one attack and you block and counter.
What techniques do you think look good together and what combinations have you done at a grading etc, etc, etc

Alexander
03-Mar-2006, 10:52 AM
Ah, the reason why Toi Gye is my favorite form! Here's my fav's:
1) Shift your body to avoid the blow grabbing their wrist and twisting it outwards, throwing them onto the floor so their back is to you. From here grab their head and break their neck. (Don't actually break their neck, but pretend to!)
2) Parry their punch and grab their balls. Either rip their balls backwards or lift them up, in both cases using your hand that's just parried to push their neck down to the floor. (Don't grab - again, just pretend!)
3) Parry their punch and slip you hand under their armpit, turning your body so they are pulled down into a shoulder lock. Knee them in the head.
4) Grab their hand and leg reap, stamping on them when they are down.
5) The good old block, grab their collar and hip throw. Stamp on them again when they are down.
6) Block and extend it grabbing the opponent's sleeve above the bicep, simultaniously backfist/elbow to their face in stun them, then use the hand that backfisted/elbowed to grab their belt and lift, twisting your waist into them and hurling them over your hip.

Evil enough? :D

Mitch
03-Mar-2006, 09:08 PM
To the inside:
Block, trap the punching arm's elbow under your forearm and lift to a painful lock. Whilst they're thinking about that punch them repeatedly in the face.

Block, step in close and repeatedly elbow them in the face with a motion like a hook punch, then pulling backwards.

To the outside:
Block with hooking block whilst stepping to side. Hold their wrist and pull straight arm towards you whilst striking palm heel to their elbow joint. After the break slide sideways in towards them whilst still holding the arm and do backwards elbow strike to face. Repeatedly.

Block inwards with one arm, grab them by the throat with the other hand, hard. Many people freeze when grabbed by the throat. Sweep their forward leg, then once they're on the floor punch them in the face. Repeatedly.

Lots of arm bars etc work in one step too. Talk to the Defendo guys, a lot of their stuff is transferrable to one step.

Mitch

TheMadhoose
04-Mar-2006, 09:31 PM
Anythying simple and effective!
Always makes me laugh when you see ppl doin about 20 counters on each attack
Rather than talking to the defendo guys talk to your instructor about 1 step combinations.
! step in a grading should emphasise blocks and counters learned from tkd tarining

tkdextra1
05-Mar-2006, 12:02 AM
I'm with you Madhoose. My favorite is step to the side, grab their wrist and upper-cut to the chin.

TheMadhoose
05-Mar-2006, 01:50 PM
I have a core of about 7 techniques i use in 1 steps and only use fancier techniques for fun

red-tkd
05-Mar-2006, 05:29 PM
I learned so far 4 counter attacks, which move to the following directions:

to the left
to the right
right into the opponent
away from the opponent

I'll explain one of 'em:

1. Pull your left leg to your right, simultaniously take your hands up to your right body side
2. Step into kima sogi to the right side of the attacker
3. perform a hand strike (right arm) to the neck while blocking the punch arm with a block (left arm) with the edge of the hand (gee, my english sucks)
4. Seize his punch arm with your left hand and switch into chongul sogi ergo pulling him forward through your movements of your hip
5. Throw the final strike to his neck, since there's a large opening.

yeah, that's it. Don't know if you can follow the instructions Oo

Incredible Bulk
06-Mar-2006, 11:10 AM
we have 5 one steps to learn for white belt and 5 for yellow.
one purple belt you learn 3 steps i think

this is ITA.

Xue Fang
02-May-2006, 12:30 PM
Okay. I don't know how it's done in other clubs and organisations, but in my club, we officially start one step sparring when we reach redstripe. However, Sabum likes to get us started when we reach bluestripe so when we reach redstripe we'll have some idea of what we're doing. Recently, I found myself partcipating in one step (which I found rather confusing, having only just learnt two step), but had absolutely no clue of what to do, and I'm very bad at improvisation. Also I don't know all of the higher-grade blocks and attacks (not being at that level yet so not having been taught them), so I don't really know what moves would work and what wouldn't.

Anyways, what I was hoping for was if everyone could make some suggestions for two things:


1) A few simple, basic blocks and counterattacks for one step just to get me started.
2) Some more complicated combination counterattacks to try for fun once I get the hang of the more basic techniques.


So! I wanna know all about your one step routines! What works for you? What's your favourite counterattack? Any suggestions for me please are most welcome. :)

Thanks,
Xue Fang

Sang
02-May-2006, 12:45 PM
1. Step back double knife hand block + gihap, blocking your opponent's inner forearm
2. Step forward double knife hand chop to the neck + gihap
3. Grab your opponent's lapels
4. Roll back throwing yr opponent backwards using your leg and the pull of your /armshands on his/her lapel + gihap
5. Roll thru with him/her and land of top of him/her
6. Finally break the jaw with double x-fist strike + gihap.
7. Roll forward over your opponent + super loud gihap.

Basically, it's what Hwoarang does in Tekken (the jawbreaker) but adapted into 1 step. It's great fun and looks wkd if you get it right. Then you can modify it and make it more impressive. 1 step is really good fun because you can do whatever you want. You should enjoy it.

Mitch
02-May-2006, 01:36 PM
1. Think about positioning. Do you want to be inside their punching arm or outside, or do you want to step back? Being inside gives lots of open targets but they can nail you with the other hand so you'd better be fast. Being outside leaves you fewer targets but keeps you away from their other arm.

2. Think about your partner. Their size should influence your choices re inside/outside.

3. Think about techniques. Once you've decided on position and partner, think about what techniques are practical from that position against that size of partner by a person with your strengths/weaknesses.

4. Practice a range of different techniques and see what works for you. What feels right in given situations? One step is where you get to really explore your art, so take your time and think about it.

5. Ask what your Instructor likes. I think 1 step should be street applicable and practical. No disrespect to the previous poster but if someone tries tekken moves I'm not going to be impressed. Short. Sharp. Profficient. Practical.

I don't think there really are any set combinations; I do a throat grab/leg sweep takedown that works well for me but others don't like it.

Edit to add: Don't think about the counters, think about the initial block. You see too many people doing some crappy block that wouldn't stop anything then leaping off into fantastic counters, none of which will work if the reality is you've just been punched in the face because of your rubbish block.

If the initial block is fast and powerful you can follow up with almost any basic technique.

mitch

Vimtoforblood
02-May-2006, 02:48 PM
Okay. I don't know how it's done in other clubs and organisations, but in my club, we officially start one step sparring when we reach redstripe.

So! I wanna know all about your one step routines! What works for you? What's your favourite counterattack? Any suggestions for me please are most welcome. :)

Thanks,
Xue Fang

I think we need to know 1 step from blue belt. We recently did a bit and I really enjoyed it.

I agree with other posters about the practical effectiveness of techniques. I know there are many plus sides and goals to MA aside from self defence but I don't want to get to a high grade and not have the tools to protect myself if needed. If not I might aswell take up ballroom dancing.

1 step seems to provide the oppotunity to learn these practical techniques. We don't learn locks, throws or sweeps anywhere else as far as I know. It also gives the chance for a little creativeness, which is why I want to come up with my own techniques and not just use someone elses.

The combo I chose when we had a go was:
-step to ouside of punch
-hooking block to attackers wrist (keep hold)
-turning kick off front leg to attackers stomach then immediately use same leg for hooking kick to back of head, while pulling their punching hand toward you.

Had an idea for one involving an elbow lock but we were only allowed strikes.

(Someone is bound to tell me the above combo isn't effective, but hey it was my first go).

Xue Fang
02-May-2006, 03:35 PM
:o *sheepish mode* Sorry mods! I didn't realise there was another 1 step topic around! I tried searching the forums but my computer is suffering some problems whenever I get onto the site for the moment, so I couldn't see the results of my search. :confused:

On with the one step advice!!!

odwyerrt
02-May-2006, 04:52 PM
In our club we just do them whenever, it dosnt really depend on your grade but moreso on your attendance! Also we arent taught set movements by our instructor, although senior members are always glad to get you started. It gets a bit frustrating sometimes but the instructors always ready to criticise/give advice. I remember once I attempted to counter a punch with a back hooking kick. The following 5 minutes consisted of a lecture to the class about practicality...

I have always found that its better to keep one steps brutally simple, as you are training to defend yourself. However, at a grading you are expected to show a certain level of proficiency and skill. Emphasis is always put on showing control, so throwing your partner halfway across the hall is frowned upon. As a rule, I never try anything too complicated e.g. kicks to the head, as I am still learning to defend myself (although i am more than capable of delivering said kicks!). Also, I think it is important to mix up hand and leg techniques, especially in gradings.

Heres a few one steps Ive been knocking around:

-Outside forearm block(L)-Uppercut to chest(R)-Uppercut to jaw(R)
-Sweep(L)-Kick to groin(L)-Knee to face(R)
-Punch to jaw(outside parry)(R)-Uppercut to ribs(L)-Elbow to solar plexus(R)
-Knife hand to wrist(R)-Punch to groin(L)-Throat thrust(L)

My "leggy" techniques mainly consist of crescent kicks to the wrist combined with sidekicks although im not a big fan. They are more technical and for gradings.

Any combos or tips anyone?

KO_Artist
02-May-2006, 05:39 PM
1 steps are in just about every style of martial arts
i think

shotsy
02-Nov-2006, 09:27 PM
What school - type

We have to know 7 three steps

1 a left io knife hand block
b right io knife hand block
c left io knife hand block right middle punch
d left io knife hand block right upper lip punch

2 a left io knife hand block
b right io knife hand block
c left io knife hand block right knife hand strike to neck
d left grab hold right neck grab knee into solar plexus

3 a left io knife hand block
b right io knife hand block
c right push through-spinthrough-left elbow to solar plexus

4 a left io knife hand block
b right io knife hand block
c left io knife hand block grab right elbow to right ribs right knuckle to tempel

5 a left io knife hand block
b right io knife hand block
c left io knife hand block grab righthand grab elbow stepthrough takedown
d left hold onto wrist right kick to chest right punch to face

6 a right io knife hand block
b left io knife hand block
c right io knife hand block and push away
d left right punch to ribs

7 a right io knife hand block
b left io knife hand block
c right io knife hand blockgrab twist
d l hand into armpit push their arm over yours
e knee to solar plexus

Hope this help or try this website http://www.jungstkd.com/sparring.htm

just make sure these are the same as yours before test :confused:

ronaldk
05-Nov-2006, 04:07 AM
what exactly is a one-step? i've heard this term a lot, and since we speak speanish here... i don't really get what it means.

Smokey13
05-Nov-2006, 04:19 AM
At my school in NSW we used to do freestyle 1-step by making our own combos etc. now in adelaide its very predefined by the instructor:(

Cosmo Kramer
05-Nov-2006, 04:19 AM
we have 10 one steps, and 3 sets of 3-2-1 steps

shotsy
05-Nov-2006, 04:30 AM
what exactly is a one-step? i've heard this term a lot, and since we speak speanish here... i don't really get what it means.
One step is just that- one punch one block/reaction
Three step is three punches ushully defended by three blocks/one (set of) reaction ie. block punch punch kick or block punch

Liam Cullen
05-Nov-2006, 04:37 AM
I was hoping Matt Sylvester would post in this thread, I asked a similar question here in my very first post and he emailed me with some excellent ideas. Maybe if you're not after any specific instructions, and ask nicely, he'll share some of his wisdom again? :D

neryo_tkd
09-Dec-2006, 08:09 PM
do you guys have to come up with your own combinations or are you given combinations by your instructor?

Azeotrope
11-Dec-2006, 01:59 PM
As 10th and 9th gup, we do preset combinations. After that we have to come up with our own, based on what works well for us and to help us be flexible in adapting to potential self-defense situations.

neryo_tkd
11-Dec-2006, 02:48 PM
same here. first there are preset combinations, then students come up with combos of their own. it's better for them that way.

Vimtoforblood
11-Dec-2006, 03:04 PM
do you guys have to come up with your own combinations or are you given combinations by your instructor?

We have to come up with our own one steps.
Two and three step sparring is, on the whole, dictated by a set pattern of moves.

TKDTraditional
25-Jan-2007, 02:25 PM
I like the idea of developing step-sparring routines based on techniques in patterns. Afterall, patterns are simulated defense and counterattack against imaginary opponents. Step-sparring a student's first experience with a real opponent.

Patterns also mean you don't have to ask yourself, "Now what's #5?" Call it "Yul-Gok" (or whatever follows your style of TKD) and think of what new techniques that pattern introduces and it's easier to recall how it was adapted to step-sparring. Even attacks can be adopted from the same patterns.

Some schools have beginning 1-, 2- and 3-step-sparring, then intermediate then advanced. I don't think you have to wait for Red or Black Belt patterns to find advanced step-sparring techniques. But, you get the idea.

In my thinking, 2-step-sparring involves a hand-attack and a kick. I also like to incorporate whatever kick is used in a pattern.

TKDstudent
21-Dec-2008, 04:26 AM
the 1 steps we do don't involve only mid section punches.
Yes sounds smart to me! I think it is funny that so many schools do 1 step sparring using only a punch with the right fist & even funnier when they step back 1st & announce they are coming & even funnier when they come at you in a formal stance. I am not sure that this helps with SD, in fact it can be even detremental if the attacker just "strikes a pose" unless they are Madona!:cool:

TKDstudent
21-Dec-2008, 04:37 AM
It's not so much a variation, as it is practising proper one-step sparring. Let's face it, a traditional obverse punch is not something you'd typically come across in combat, or even sparring for that matter. One-step can, and IMHO, should be performed with any technique the attacker can think of.
Thats rite!

TKDstudent
21-Dec-2008, 04:38 AM
It should be practiced from well before 2nd Dan. 6th Kup, IMHO, when the students are starting to get the basic feel for their techniques, and areused to three and two step sparring.agreed

divine spiral
24-Jan-2009, 01:38 PM
in my dojang only three and two step are prespecified.one step is improvised and only done from blue tag upwards

mattsylvester
11-Feb-2009, 09:37 PM
Lol, just spotted this :)

These are what I sent him about 3 years ago or so.

Sajo Jirugi Applications (this is one of the best for practical defences that work).
1. Counter attack against stepping in right front punch
1.1 Parry with your left hand as you step in and to 10 o'clock (as if you're chambering for lower outer forearm block),
1.2 catch with your right hand and
1.3 step in again performing left lower outer forearm block to their ribs whilst pulling right hand back to the hip (the whole reason we chamber of course).

You don't have to hit hard to get a good response. Make sure that you return your right hand to your right hip as this will not only improve the power but will also destroy their balance and open up the side of their neck for follow up strikes.

2. Throw against stepping in right front punch
2.1 as with 1.1
2.2 as with 1.2
2.3 step past the opponent and 'punch' with your right hand past their head and use your shoulder to tip their head back and destroy their centre of balance
2.4 place your right leg behind them
2.5 move your left hand to the top of their right shoulder and take a firm grip
2.6 turn to the left and perform lower outer forearm block
NOTE: It's important that you move your right foot just as you would in the pattern, i.e., bring it in to your left foot and curve out to the right. Because of the direction that their toes are pointing in (very important for sweeps) this enables you to take down big heffers without having to use your upper body against theirs. It's also very important that you get them tipped back.
3. Low 'block', front punch/palm heel, knee to chest, stamp to knee
3.1 - 3.3 as 1.3
3.4 perform the right punch/palm heel first before stepping forward
3.5 grab opponent behind the head with both hands and pull forward
3.6 knee to opponent's chest
3.7 keeping knee high land into the opponent with your right foot going into the soft area just above their knee.
Although it looks like there are a lot of steps in each move there aren't. I've just tried to break it down as simply as possible as a forum isn't great for getting ideas across :)


I was hoping Matt Sylvester would post in this thread, I asked a similar question here in my very first post and he emailed me with some excellent ideas. Maybe if you're not after any specific instructions, and ask nicely, he'll share some of his wisdom again? :D

paulol
15-Feb-2009, 04:28 AM
ooh! look at all this old stuff :)

Lol, just spotted this :)

These are what I sent him about 3 years ago or so.

Sajo Jirugi Applications (this is one of the best for practical defences that work).
1. Counter attack against stepping in right front punch
1.1 Parry with your left hand as you step in and to 10 o'clock (as if you're chambering for lower outer forearm block),
1.2 catch with your right hand and
1.3 step in again performing left lower outer forearm block to their ribs whilst pulling right hand back to the hip (the whole reason we chamber of course).

You don't have to hit hard to get a good response. Make sure that you return your right hand to your right hip as this will not only improve the power but will also destroy their balance and open up the side of their neck for follow up strikes.

2. Throw against stepping in right front punch
2.1 as with 1.1
2.2 as with 1.2
2.3 step past the opponent and 'punch' with your right hand past their head and use your shoulder to tip their head back and destroy their centre of balance
2.4 place your right leg behind them
2.5 move your left hand to the top of their right shoulder and take a firm grip
2.6 turn to the left and perform lower outer forearm block
NOTE: It's important that you move your right foot just as you would in the pattern, i.e., bring it in to your left foot and curve out to the right. Because of the direction that their toes are pointing in (very important for sweeps) this enables you to take down big heffers without having to use your upper body against theirs. It's also very important that you get them tipped back.
3. Low 'block', front punch/palm heel, knee to chest, stamp to knee
3.1 - 3.3 as 1.3
3.4 perform the right punch/palm heel first before stepping forward
3.5 grab opponent behind the head with both hands and pull forward
3.6 knee to opponent's chest
3.7 keeping knee high land into the opponent with your right foot going into the soft area just above their knee.
Although it looks like there are a lot of steps in each move there aren't. I've just tried to break it down as simply as possible as a forum isn't great for getting ideas across :)