How many kickboxers out there?

[_Jay_]

There doesn't seem to be much activity in this forum, so I was just wondering how many members out there are kickboxers?

[Nyx]

There all asleep, lazy bar-stewards! :D

[leeless]

I'm a kickboxer. I think most people on this board have had some experience with kickboxing, usually, at the start of their Martial Arts training. However, I think some people "advance" onto a more technical/differently orientated art after a time. Also, Muay Thai is becoming more popular and people move to that (like me!).

[Nyx]

Still all lazy bar-stewards!

[DangerMouse]

I agree with what leeless said.. to a point.

I started kickboxing, then also started the kung fu lessons of the same style. I find most of my training concentrates on the kung fu, but I still go along to the dedicated KB sessions whenever I can (at least weekly + squad training). At the end of the day I still train in kickboxing (even during KF lessons), and when I compete it's as a kickboxer.

As far as "advancing" to other arts? I think "changing" would be a better word. Kickboxing is a very generic word for a sport fighting style which suits some people more than others. This can then lead people onto the "Art" it originated from..

Oh and Nyx, I definitely fall into that category sometimes, and I don't work in a bar. :)

[leeless]

As far as "advancing" to other arts? I think "changing" would be a better word. Kickboxing is a very generic word for a sport fighting style which suits some people more than others. This can then lead people onto the "Art" it originated from..



Good point. I agree. However, by "advancing", I meant that Kickboxing is quite a common doorway into martial arts in general. Some people then "advance" on to other arts more suited to them after learning the fundementals in kickboxing. Hence, the lack of Kickboxers in this forum. :)

Kickboxing is very vague, but in this context, I'm using the western kickboxing sport.

[Bellator Manus]

My instructor teaches his students Kick Boxing, American Kempo, and Arnis. So I guess that makes me a kick boxer.

[DangerMouse]

I think kickboxing's a great thing for introducing many people to MAs.

I realise that alot of people here consider KB as their "introductory" style, and have then gone onto other things, and hence they tend to ignore this topic (other things more imprtant to them - I'm guilty, if I've only got 5 mins I'll normally just check general discussion, off-topic etc.). I understood your point leeless, and I agree with it.

Kickboxing is very vague, but in this context, I'm using the western kickboxing sport

I could say that I do an "eastern" style of KB because of where it's origins lay (I don't - I do kickboxing {full stop}), however I realise that the style has changed greatly over time and adaptation for pure fighting. Therefore I am a "western" kickboxer, fighting any style I can find that works. :D

[leeless]

I realise that alot of people here consider KB as their "introductory" style, and have then gone onto other things, and hence they tend to ignore this topic (other things more imprtant to them - I'm guilty, if I've only got 5 mins I'll normally just check general discussion, off-topic etc.). I understood your point leeless, and I agree with it.

Me to mate. :rolleyes:


I could say that I do an "eastern" style of KB because of where it's origins lay (I don't - I do kickboxing {full stop}), however I realise that the style has changed greatly over time and adaptation for pure fighting. Therefore I am a "western" kickboxer, fighting any style I can find that works. :D


Well...as this is such as sparsely populated section. Would you mind if I went off-topic?

I hope I understand your point of being a "western" Kickboxer (because you've "westernised" eastern techniques right?

If this is the case, could you tell me then the differences between the "eastern style" you describe and the western sport rules style?

[DangerMouse]

Western Rules? I conform to any rules the competition dictates. :D

I'm not experienced enought to comment on the differences in any east-west rules. I only meant that the (very early) origins of my KB was eastern, and I didn't start training in American KB (what I would consider western, despite the eastern or any other influences).

"Westernised" eastern technique - exactly what I meant lee.

I don't know what "eastern" rules are, only the rules I have been taught to fight to. As far as "eastern techniques" are concerned I think I have mis-represented myself. I apply whatever techniques I learn in any lesson to my fighting. Sometimes I come a cropper when spinning backfists are dissallowed (don't ask me why if they're done with control), but most if not all of the techniques I do, I only do because they are effective, not where they come from.

I personally don't think there's all that much different between east/west KB. If you get onto Muay Tai etc. that's a different story, but if you can find an art that works for you, who cares where it comes from, as long as it work for you (whatever the rules).

[leeless]

Right. So your not pigeonhole-ing what KB is. The "eastern" part of your KB comes from your Kung Fu presumably, and you apply that to KB as a sport? Right? If not...don't waste your time trying to explain yourself to me as I've spent to long writing essays to comprehend anything other than "Must sleep". :)

[DangerMouse]

Spot-on lee

You take what you have to a fight, regardless where it came from.

[Jacobi]

Still all lazy bar-stewards!

Lol thats freakin funny man.

[Daffy]

Im starting kickboxing in 3 weeks.

[_Jay_]

Hope you enjoy it let us know how you get on!

[fizz-lau]

i do lau gar kickboxing along with lau gar kung fu :love:

[Enigma_TKO]

Hey all, ive jsut recently started kickboxing. im loving it so far. Atm i cant see why anyone would change style from kickboxing. :cool:

[_Jay_]

Great stuff! Keep at it!

[Enigma_TKO]

i take it you are a kickboxer yourself jay?

[Macca_g]

I Have been Kickboxing 9 months but only just joined here it will get more popular with time probably :D

[Enigma_TKO]

who are you training with macca? im with a group called P.K.A

[Macca_g]

I'm training with the B.K.F.A British Kick Fight Association... At the Fighting Arts and Fitness Club.. Really enjoying it as it has opened my eyes to how tuff you can get and how good KB is for fitness... On Yellow belt at the moment but been moved to the advanced class to help move me up quicker.... We also do grappling, clinch and ground work as well as the stand up.. how long have you been doing it where u from? :)

[Enigma_TKO]

just had my first lesson last monday. Only learn a few thigs. Just workign on my set for my red belt atm. Really enjoying it atm. Im from peterborough. how bout you?

[Macca_g]

Peterborough UK? I'm from Manchester UK... :) What style are you learning any in particular?

[Enigma_TKO]

yea peterborugh uk. um tis just american kickboxing. wat about you ? the yellow belt its the second one corrrect?

[Sok Ti]

I've come from a traditional MA, that being karate, and feel that it was used as my advancement tool to upgrade to Muay Thai and Boxing, and to me personally it has left Karate in the dust. I think alot of people who take up training in these forms of fighting don't train long enough for the real science and skills to develop and commonly think that they have learnt everything in the space of a couple of months of training. Real punches and kicks will always need training and improvement and can take a long time to develop properly.

[Macca_g]

Its the equivilatent to my 1st belt (Only graded once) We have no belt to start with.. other people start on whitebelt when they walk through the door... we start no belt, yellow, orange, green, blue etc... Should be on Orange now but missed a grading.. get them to teach you CRAZY MONKEY its good stuff.. :)

We learn anything that works.. so its really all martial arts, anything that works from Grappling, Clinch work, Karate Kung fu, Jeet kun do... everything that helps in self defence.. How to kick properly how to clinch then take down and how to deal with them on the ground until submission... Its tough to stick at though as sometimes you can't be bothered, you just gotta stick at it :D

[Enigma_TKO]

u want to meet in the chat thing would be easier than cloging up the board?

[Bograt]

I do, and I teach Kickboxing. I also teach traditional karate, freestyle karate but I Mix them all together in one of my classes and mix freestyle points and kickboxing in my kickboxing class this is purely because there are more points competitions in our clubs travelling range than Kickboxing so at least my students can get involved in competitions if they wish.

[Bograt]

I've come from a traditional MA, that being karate, and feel that it was used as my advancement tool to upgrade to Muay Thai and Boxing, and to me personally it has left Karate in the dust. I think alot of people who take up training in these forms of fighting don't train long enough for the real science and skills to develop and commonly think that they have learnt everything in the space of a couple of months of training. Real punches and kicks will always need training and improvement and can take a long time to develop properly.
I would agree with most of your statement however whilst you feel the other stuff has left karate in the dust I would suggest that it is not the styles that have left karate in the dust but your change of view towards your training as It was you grounding in karate that was the building block to where you are now.

When I teach now I find that at times my techniques become sloppy and I then go back to my karate basics in order to tidy up again.

[Nyx]

Kickboxers are still mainly lazy assed bar-stewards, no mater what they tell you!

[Kyle_s7]

it depends if Muay Thai Kickboxing counts.

[jabcrosshook]

Highlighting the original point, it does seem like we're low on numbers here on the kickboxing section. I can't understand why as we're probably part of one of the biggest MAs! The boxing section goes very quietly sometimes, too :confused:

Other than a main nucleus of posters, there seems to be very few other people, except for the occasional new member who asks about kicking or something and then is never seen again :bang: Why is this?

COME ON PEOPLE - POST!

[Bograt]

I don't know why Norm! :) Maybee it's our abillity to keep chugging along as we get older, maybee it's due to our abillity to argue our corner effectively, or maybee it's because we are soooooooo misundersood?

No matter what, we will still be here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello! Hello! Where have you gone????????? :p :p :p :p

BTW Supperfoof is the man!!!!!!!!

[tekkengod]

well theres not much debate in the community right now, we all agree for the most part at the moment.

[Bograt]

Think most places are quiet at the moment. Alot of my students will be fighting soon but unfortunatly there is no FC or LC so it looks like points is on the cards :cry: :cry:

[jabcrosshook]

Think most places are quiet at the moment. Alot of my students will be fighting soon but unfortunatly there is no FC or LC so it looks like points is on the cards :cry: :cry:

Why is there no FC/LC?

I fought points this year at the nationals this year and got totally hammered in the second fight :( Not for me!

Maybee it's our abillity to keep chugging along as we get older

'Scuse me - I'm 16

How does being able to argue our corner drive people away, BTW?

[acarpe]

i've been kickboxing for a couple of years now and have changed clubs twice. at the moment i train with sean veira's bristol lau gar kickboxing club. although kickboxing has always been my base style, i'm also a red sash in wing chun kung fu and train in brazilian ju-jitsu. i would argue that while it might not necessarily be the most "combat-effective" art, arguably it is one of the most enjoyable, as well as providing transferrable skills which would help with street-fighting.

[Bolt]

I don't kickbox I train in Muay Thai, for the last 15 yrs.

[Sever]

I started kickboxing a couple of weeks back to supplement my kempo ju jitsu (I'm actually training at the same place my ju jitsu instructor learned kickboxing) after my class got cut down to one night a week. I'm really enjoying it; it's really good to train with a different set of people, particularly in a striking environment which is where my ju jitsu class is probably weakest. The sparring's nice and hard in my class and there's a good emphasis on conditioning - just what I was looking for :cool: