The Contender [Archive] - Martial Arts Planet

funkymonk

13-Mar-2005, 08:14 PM

It's on ITV2 in the UK tommorrow night at 9.00 pm and i can't wait to see it. My all time boxing hero 'Sugar' Ray Leonard is on it too :D . Has it already been screened in the states and is it worth watching ?

Yukimushu

13-Mar-2005, 08:36 PM

I've heard mixed ractions about it so far; but i still plan on watching it :D They could have had someone better in that of Sylvester Stallone surely? :D

JKD_Haduken

13-Mar-2005, 08:40 PM

its ok. its most definately NOT reality though. But then again, what show really is.

Rhizome

13-Mar-2005, 08:47 PM

Looks like it will be a decent show compared to some of the crap on tv these days.

aml01_ph

13-Mar-2005, 10:29 PM

I saw the 1st 2 episodes on AXN and I have to say it's bull.

How can a decent boxer train without competent trainers looking out for his interests exclusively? How can these boxers train if they have to put up with ridiculous "challenges."

The best reality tv program about a sport along the lines of competition has to be the WWE-MTV production Tough Enough. It's not hard to see why it is so successful. There are no idiot challenges. No idiot rules. Participants are told right from the start that they are entering a competition that runs more along a tryout than a gameshow.

MossIsGone84

14-Mar-2005, 12:22 AM

I can't stand how in the end all of the fights are put to music and they don't even show the entire fight, they just show clips from each round, I also don't like the fact that they put some of the punches they throw in slow motion... or that they cut to the crowd during the fight... I just can't enjoy it, when I watch a boxing match I wanna see the whole thing from start to finish and the only thing I wanna hear is the announcers voices commenting on the fight.

binski20

14-Mar-2005, 01:53 AM

It is exactly what it is....a tv show designed for ratings. I watched the first episode, and might catch a few others. I agree with the points that each fighter could use an individual trainer, and that the fights being altered with music, slow mo etc didn't appeal to me. The majority of the general public though isnt interested in plain boxing matches. The want to see the highlights, dramatized with music and slow mo.

Yukimushu

14-Mar-2005, 02:59 AM

funkymonk

14-Mar-2005, 09:37 PM

I think the challenges are the usual reality tv crap but the fight itself was a good fight between two good fighters. I really admire the guy Alfonso Gomez who picked himself to fight Manfredo who was one of the favourites and a weight division higher than him and still beat him!

The fight i'm looking forward to is between a guy called Ahmed and the one who keeps on winding him up cos i think it'll be a real grudge match. I just hope they come up against each other. :woo:

Mushroom

14-Mar-2005, 10:00 PM

I was suprised about the amount of well seasoned Pro's in this show. Manfredo Jnr being ranked No3 in the World and another being ranked 4th. I thought it would be similar to the British version of the show where there are some Pro's but only had like 3 bouts, some of these guys here had close to 30!

I liked this show, the editing for the fights are a bit distracting but this show is also intended for audiences who doesnt know what to look out for. Remember, in boxing most of the best punches are well hidden, so us MAists are used to that and able to see it, while non-MAists and non-boxing fans aren't.

My main gripe about the show is that the elimination fights actually go on their record. But in my opinion, the Boxers arent given enough time to train properly and are distracted by the other boxers around them, distracted by the cameras and by the strange challenges.....but the Boxer did sign an agreement BEFORE coming on to the show...so I guess they did know what they were up for.

Yukimushu

15-Mar-2005, 12:17 AM

I was out training so I had to set the video recorder.

My Dad really enjoyed it though; just as I stepped through the door he was telling me about how he loved it and can't wait to see the next episode :)

notquitedead

15-Mar-2005, 02:58 AM

I like it. It's better than most of the crap on TV.

BoxBabaX

15-Mar-2005, 05:39 AM

i really enjoyed it, ahmad got his ass handed to him by ishe. Lol

that damn poo talker.

andrewS

15-Mar-2005, 08:57 AM

Seen the first episode.. thought it was good, except for the fact they didn't show the whole fight and kept cutting & chopping the camera angles while slowing it down and adding stupid sound effects into it.

Most of these guys seem to be motivated for their family more so than the love of the sport... it was pretty sad watching Peter lose to Alfonso while his wife and little girl was watching. I really didn't like seeing Alfonso's hand being held up while Peter was holding his little girl there with him while he was declared the loser.

Gotta give it Alfonso though, stepping up a weight class and taking on one of the toughest guys... he has my respect and deserves the win!

andrewS

15-Mar-2005, 09:55 AM

just watched the second one... thought Reid was going to win that. Nice come back after the first round. I wonder if they're purposely manipulating the footage to give us the impression one guy wins the round?

I wanna see pretty boy Ahmed fight Ishe and get the crap beaten out of him. :)

aml01_ph

16-Mar-2005, 01:29 AM

Ishe won.

The show professes that this is an oppurtunity for these boxers to get their shot in the big leagues as if the producers are trying to help them. But we (us viewers) do'nt even get to see these guys train seriously. And unless I'm mistaken there looks to be just one ring in the whole Contender Gym!

As to these fighters not getting a shot, I can understand from the first three episodes. These fighters are slow. They did not seem to have gotten the benefit of a good trainer before the show. Their fights with each other looks....boring.

I mean you have to at least look exceptional in order to get a good offer from a reputable promoter. Just look at Dela Hoya, Marquez, Barrera...even Tyson.

I can't wait for the Morales vs. Pacquiao bout this 20th!

BoxBabaX

17-Mar-2005, 12:14 AM

boring? lol, u gotta be kidding me.... theres a serious problem if you thought they were boring fights. malfredo was 21-0, 3rd in the world. and btw, 1st is hopkins, 2nd is trinidad.

andrewS

17-Mar-2005, 09:57 AM

I thought that was an amazing effort by Alfonso, gotta give him props! Jesse Brinks as well :)

Ishe smashed Ahmed from what they showed... I don't like Ishe either though, he didn't want to fight. I wanna see him lose next time he fights.

Yukimushu

18-Mar-2005, 11:48 PM

boring? lol, u gotta be kidding me.... theres a serious problem if you thought they were boring fights. malfredo was 21-0, 3rd in the world. and btw, 1st is hopkins, 2nd is trinidad.

I really enjoyed the fight as well :D Whilst it is a shame they've edited it; I think they've done it REALLY well - they've kept it really short and snappy, but still managed to keep the suspense... especially with the addition of the Hanz Zimmer music :D

aml01_ph

19-Mar-2005, 07:56 AM

boring? lol, u gotta be kidding me.... theres a serious problem if you thought they were boring fights. malfredo was 21-0, 3rd in the world. and btw, 1st is hopkins, 2nd is trinidad.

It's a wonder then why we haven't seen him in Las Vegas before. Considering that the Hopkins-Trinidad fight happened a long time ago.

Kwajman

20-Mar-2005, 01:08 AM

Do they still plan on showing the episodes after the one guy shot and killed himself???

Yukimushu

20-Mar-2005, 01:33 AM

Do they still plan on showing the episodes after the one guy shot and killed himself???

Yes, I believe they are showing it as part of a tribute to him.

Goju

20-Mar-2005, 01:38 AM

The show is cool. The gym they train in is the coolest gym ever. Other than that, it's the same as TUF, but boxing, and rather than in-house drama, they have in-gym drama because they don't all stay in the same house like they do on TUF. The matches at the end are always really good, and I have to admit I like the slow-mo effect they do on some of the nicer punches.

Yukimushu

20-Mar-2005, 01:45 AM

and I have to admit I like the slow-mo effect they do on some of the nicer punches.

I do as well :) I'm a huge fan of Hanz Zimmer; and the inclusion of his music in the fights is always going to get two thumbs up from me :D

JKD_Haduken

20-Mar-2005, 01:39 PM

This show officially sucks.

You see a few snap shots of the fights and the rest of the time they have the camera on the fake crowd. There is also fake punching sounds, fake crowd noise.

I am suprised there is no crouching tiger hidden dragon tricks as this show is about as fake as walking on the side of walls.

I prefer TUF, even know that is scripted as well.

WE need a documentary style show rather then a ""reality"" show. because nothing can be further then reality then the contender b/c its fake as hell...for god sakes stallone is there b/c he made a movie, the guy can't even through down a combo.

so wake up and smell the brainwashing.

notquitedead

20-Mar-2005, 06:43 PM

Stallone is there because he is one of the producers.

Goju

20-Mar-2005, 07:14 PM

ya, quit trying to ruin it!

JKD_Haduken

20-Mar-2005, 07:18 PM

haha..

I aint trying to ruin it. it ruins itself ;)

Yukimushu

20-Mar-2005, 07:20 PM

Even Beethoven had his critics :)

JKD_Haduken

20-Mar-2005, 07:23 PM

yeah true...

good point..I'll admit it, I am a hater, however, if you like the show it's all good I wont make fun of you ( too much ;) )

cloudz

20-Mar-2005, 08:11 PM

I enjoyed the first show. It was a good fight at the end, Alfonso fought great and surprised a few people. It look like it'll be quite entertaining over the coming months, with some interesting characters in there

special43543

21-Mar-2005, 03:09 AM

I am sick of this show. Everytime I am rooting for someone (besides ishie), they loose. It's almost like its rigged. I mean, come on how did #3 in the world lose to alfonso? They piss me off because both fighters come out strong, but as time goes on, one stops throwing punches and keeps getting hit. Najia lost...how did that happen? He was kicking the crap out of that guy, and then stopped throwing punches and lost. And at the end of the show it said in febuary he died...how? He was in great shape... This show makes me mad everytime I see it.

notquitedead

21-Mar-2005, 05:14 PM

I'm sure he didn't just stop throwing punches, but the way they edited it probably makes it seem like that. I wish they showed the whole fight, though.

BoxBabaX

21-Mar-2005, 05:39 PM

andrewS

24-Mar-2005, 08:40 AM

That was a VERY SAD episode.

binski20

30-Mar-2005, 01:49 PM

That was a VERY SAD episode.

It was. I read that he lead a troubled life though, living in a not so good part of Philly. He didn't sleep in his bed, but slept under it or in the closet out of fear of being shot or beaten. He was very quiet and didn't trust anyone. Sad to see someone brought to that point.

JKD_Haduken

03-Apr-2005, 12:54 PM

I just realized how much this show sucks... seriously, I wasn't aware of it until I just sat here and thought about it.

This reality show is about as real as the WWE.

I guess I will be getting me updates on this site now, because I am not wasting an hour of my life watching this crap no more.

Yukimushu

03-Apr-2005, 02:11 PM

It is a shame they don't show the whole fight; using abit of video editing, they could show the fight going either way.

Other than that, I'm liking it so far :) I missed the latest episode which sucked :(

JKD_Haduken

03-Apr-2005, 02:24 PM

.

Other than that, I'm liking it so far :) I missed the latest episode which sucked :(

Your right, the last episode did suck :)

(see how I cleverly turned that around)

Jamo2

04-Apr-2005, 09:01 PM

God bless Najai. Just watched that episode (seems like we are getting it a lot slower over here)
How could he leave that kid behind man.
Anyway, on a lighter note. Is there another series coming after this middleweight one finishes or anything like that?

Goju

04-Apr-2005, 09:46 PM

anyone see Anthony own Brent last night

He destroyed him, and I don't care what the rest of the team thinks, I would've done the same

BoxBabaX

12-Apr-2005, 07:00 AM

i agree with u there goju

and JKD, the show OWNS! (there :D )

funkymonk

18-Apr-2005, 08:20 PM

anyone see Anthony own Brent last night

He destroyed him, and I don't care what the rest of the team thinks, I would've done the sameYeah he destroyed him but i think he could have shown a bit more integrity. Jaimie (i think that's his name) had peaked for that fight and was let down at the last minute. It's going to be hard for him to train to reach that peak again. At the end of the day though the name of the game is winning and Anthony didn't break any rules.
I think he will have alienated himself from ALL the other fighters though.

Jamo2

18-Apr-2005, 09:10 PM

Jimmy his name, close though.
But yeah, he didnt brake any rules and im open minded so i partly agree. But i wouldnt have done it. I totally agreed with him right up until the point when he was complimenting Jimmy on his arms and stuff.
That showed that he didnt step out of fighting Jimmy just because he thought he was more matched with Brent or anything (which he said earlier) but because he was scared.
Yet you see all the other contenders picking people who they think are stronger or equally matched. Not yet have i seen somebody pick someone who was noticeably weaker.
Ishe picked Ahmed was a perfect example.

Yukimushu

19-Apr-2005, 08:38 PM

I'm unable to watch the monday showing of The Contender - and ive missed the past two friday repeats! Who has left since then?

Jamo2

19-Apr-2005, 10:00 PM

Well Brent left last week, and Peter manfredo whooped somebody but for the life of me i cant remember his name.
Check out NBCs site. All the people who have gone are coloured in grey :)

Ad McG

19-Apr-2005, 10:13 PM

That Brent guy SUCKED! All he kept saying was "the lord will help me, it's the lords path blah blah". What a crock! Even at the end he was crying in the showers saying "it was the lords path" etc. Pathetic. It was obvious the other guy was gonna absolutely tear him apart, you just had to look in his eyes, they were burning! He actually had determination and desperately wanted to win, unlike Brent. As much as both camps dislike the guy now, I doubt he cares much because he is getting on with it.

Jamo2

19-Apr-2005, 10:40 PM

Yer the lord stuff did make me sick, although i liked Brent, he seemed like a cool guy ya know.

WhiteWizard

20-Apr-2005, 05:52 PM

Ad McG

20-Apr-2005, 06:00 PM

Brent was the poorest fighter i've seen in there so far he didn't really show anything. As for all the whining from everyone else i'd say grow up everyone is in that for themselves unless they are kidding themselves on royally

Exactly. They will end up fighting each other eventually, then they will realise what he was doing. They're not in it in teams, they're in it to win for themselves.

Jamo2

20-Apr-2005, 06:34 PM

Its not what he done. Its the way he did it.
If he simply turned around and said to them all, sorry guys i aint sticking to this plan because, basically i want to win, im here for myself not you lot yada yada yada. They all wouldve said ah ok fair enough good point. But he just turned around and surprised em.
You know why he didnt tell them, because he had doubts in his mind and he knew they would try and talk him around.

WhiteWizard

20-Apr-2005, 06:44 PM

Yeah but he did what was best for him by going about it the way he did he made sure they were all onside for the task and that way he would get the choice and not the other way round i agree not the most honourable way to go but it got the job done. I've seen worse put it that way

Yukimushu

08-May-2005, 09:22 PM

Bodybuilding.com have just posted an interview they've had with Ishe Smith talking about very parts of his training

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ishesmith.htm

Jamo2

08-May-2005, 11:35 PM

Wow, he trains pretty hard.
By the way, for all you other UK people. That interview contains spoilers. Dont make the same mistake i did :rolleyes:

Jamo2

11-May-2005, 12:46 PM

What yall reckon. Sergio and Alfonso in the final?

Yukimushu

11-May-2005, 12:49 PM

I'm rooting for Alfonso :D I love mexican fighters.

JinkokMike

11-May-2005, 01:40 PM

I'm rooting for Alfonso :D I love mexican fighters.

I love alfanso also he's ace and doesn't look all that tough but can realy pack a puch.:D

Jamo2

11-May-2005, 02:08 PM

Sergios my bet. Hes great.

Yukimushu

14-May-2005, 10:55 PM

If your anything like me, and love the introduction of The Contender; you can download it from Hanz Zimmers site over at:

http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/contender.php

Jamo2

15-May-2005, 12:13 AM

Haha, thanks for that, really cool.

Oh and By the way. Who wants to open up a sort of betting pool. Wait till the show ends, and before the final we all place a $5 bet on who we think would win. If the person you bet on wins, the people who bet against him, there money gets split up equally to all the people who bet on the same guy as you.
Just to make it more exciting :cool:

tekkengod

15-May-2005, 12:27 AM

BoxBabaX

15-May-2005, 08:29 AM

If your anything like me, and love the introduction of The Contender; you can download it from Hanz Zimmers site over at:

http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/contender.php

lmao if only u knew how many times this song has been set on "repeat" on my computer lol. :D

BoxBabaX

15-May-2005, 08:31 AM

The contender was horrible. they had to resort to rocky music and cutscenes of the fights to make it interesting, but what can you expect, its boxing. of course they are going to spice it up using cheesy music and half assed fights. it is the business of entertainment.

im sorry that you feel that way, fortunetly, you are a minority :D

edit: forgot to add, if boxing is like you mentioned, what brings you to this section of the forum.

Yukimushu

15-May-2005, 11:37 AM

The contender was horrible. they had to resort to rocky music and cutscenes of the fights to make it interesting, but what can you expect, its boxing. of course they are going to spice it up using cheesy music and half assed fights. it is the business of entertainment.

Tekkengod, how can you mistake Hanz Zimmer (the greatest film composer on earth!) for Rocky music? :D

jabcrosshook

15-May-2005, 02:30 PM

I watched CONTENDER for the first time on Friday - not impressed. The actual idea and the way it's put together is good, but the fights were awful.

It was very Rocky-esque, and the fights almost looked fake.

tekkengod

15-May-2005, 03:56 PM

the fights were boring and you can instantly tell they cut out the scences of rest and boring moments. it was dull, very dull. and yuki, i'm gonna look into that guy just cause he sounds cool. but it sounded like rocky music at the time, and sylvester Stallone in the background going "asubbababa.....ahahahzzzzzaahahbbbbah" in the along with his other incessant mumblings didn't help the matter much

Jamo2

15-May-2005, 08:16 PM

TG, what are you doing in the boxing forum. Birds eaten your breadcrums?

tekkengod

15-May-2005, 08:20 PM

i just saw a thread about that horrific show and had to give my 2 cents.

nobelt

10-Jun-2005, 01:13 AM

Actually i think the contender is an awesome show and the best "reality show" ive seen for a while. I actually really like the addition of the music and have too downloaded the hanz zimmer tune, although i had to dearch for it manually before i found this site. Someone mentioned it being like rocky music but i think the soundtrack to the rocky films were great anyway.
I still dont know who the winner is and want to keep it that way until i see it. Missed a few episodes recently so dont know how far it is so ive been trying to download them off the net.

Koryo

10-Jun-2005, 08:59 AM

Meh, reasonably entertaining but nowhere near as good as The Ultimate Fighter (which by the way has better intro music, better drama, better bitching and much better smack talking).

tekkengod

10-Jun-2005, 06:06 PM

yeah. The Ultimate Fighter was 10xs the show the contender was.
its production values may not have been as high, but thats the only thing they have.

they didn't have to resort to cut scenes and rocky music to make the show interesting, i mean, its MMA, enough said.

Bhattman

22-Jun-2005, 04:36 PM

Sergio Won!!!!

Yukimushu

22-Jun-2005, 06:32 PM

Sergio Won!!!!

Indeed he did :) It was a close fight at first, but then towards the end Sergio started to take control (he looked to be in excellent condition!).

Jamo2

22-Jun-2005, 08:32 PM

If you look back i state that Sergio was going to win from the very beginning, did i not :rolleyes:
Hes great, he deserved it.

Another Muay Thai Guy

22-Jun-2005, 09:23 PM

I liked sergio, but the only thing that annoyed me about him was his attitude in the ring. He always taunted his opponent and then in the final he has a go at manfredo's corner - i didnt want him to lose but i think it would have taught him a lesson if he took a serious shot while doing that.

Jamo2

22-Jun-2005, 10:47 PM

Well he did if you remember. He took his eyes off manfredo and got a bit of a clobbering for it. He did apologize though and said it was "in the heat of the moment"

Hades

28-Jun-2005, 03:23 PM

i saw it and it s*cks

Mystyk

28-Jun-2005, 11:07 PM

I love that show. The definatly trained like hell, I mean come on, A chance to win 1 mill and they are all just going to sit on their asses?

inosanto1

10-Jul-2005, 06:26 PM

it was very good television at best, and that is a big complement at the moment. i also thought it was fixed, Manfredo, to say he is ranked so highly, was a huge let down
Alfonso Gomez should clearly have been the winner and i feel it was fixed, hence why he was given the bronze medal

Yukimushu

11-Jul-2005, 08:07 AM

I was rooting for Gomez from the start; he got so far and I thought he was going to make it :(

Another Muay Thai Guy

11-Jul-2005, 08:34 AM

Wasn't Gomez fighting above his usual weight category as well? :confused:

Rhizome

11-Jul-2005, 10:19 PM

Wasn't Gomez fighting above his usual weight category as well?

I believe he was but im not going to confirm that.

I dont believe it was fixed, i was routing for sergio all the way anyway.

BoxBabaX

12-Jul-2005, 05:09 AM

im still bumbed that it ended, still no news here of another season, anyone heard of anything??? :cry:

Yukimushu

12-Jul-2005, 08:08 AM

im still bumbed that it ended, still no news here of another season, anyone heard of anything??? :cry:

I've not heard anything; i'm pretty sure we would have heard something by now!

Lets keep our fingers crossed though...

Rhizome

12-Jul-2005, 09:18 AM

Are you guys hoping for another season because if you are its not happening. It got cancelled people have signed a petition but it still looks unlikely that it will happen.

Ohh yeah and Gomez was fighting 2 weight divisions higher.

James Kovacich

24-Mar-2006, 11:21 PM

I'm not sure when it was taped but last nite on ESPN I saw Peter Manfredo TKO an opponent in his hometown Providence Rhode Island (he is undefeated at home) and Sergio was at ringside at the anouncers booth and said "he'll fight Peter manfredo anywhere even in providence."

They're building up a re-match.

Jamo2

26-Mar-2006, 08:05 PM

I miss contender.

2sweet

10-Jul-2006, 05:05 PM

From what I can gather the contender series 2 is due to air in the U.S sometime this month.
Anyone any idea if it is set to be shown in the uk?

DaveOHr

13-Jul-2006, 05:26 PM

From what I can gather the contender series 2 is due to air in the U.S sometime this month.
Anyone any idea if it is set to be shown in the uk?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnMicrosite?showID=cntd

Contender 2 on ESPN, not NBC. Not sure about the UK. Premieres July 18th.

2sweet

17-Jul-2006, 12:23 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnMicrosite?showID=cntd

Contender 2 on ESPN, not NBC. Not sure about the UK. Premieres July 18th.

Nice one, Thanks DaveOHr!

Will have to keep checkin uk listings. :cool:

Johnno

17-Jul-2006, 12:41 PM

'The Contender' was the biggest pile of tripe I've seen in years!

About 75% of the programme was taken up by the contenders all repeating the same tired old cliches one after the other like a set of little parrots :bang: ; another 20% was Stallone talking rubbish while Sugar Ray pretended to take him seriously :bang: ; and the other 5% was actually given over to a tiny bit of boxing - but with the cameras spending half the time on the fighters' families :bang: .

If you like boxing, then there's really no substitute for actually watching boxing!

Another Muay Thai Guy

19-Jul-2006, 02:32 PM

Did any US folks watch it yesterday? What was it like? Don't post any big details as I still have no idea when they're showing it over here, but I was just wandering how it compared to the first series. Cheers. :)

2sweet

21-Jul-2006, 04:56 PM

Zentenk

21-Jul-2006, 11:17 PM

I liked it, it was pretty cool. I'm glad they don't show the whole fights because I'm pretty sure a majority of them were boring and sucked pretty bad. It has nothing on TUF though, but its 10000x better than Final Fu.

Apotheosis

22-Jul-2006, 03:35 AM

It wasn't that bad, of course they still have the exaggerated sounds and still focus on the crowd/families too much..

But it was not to bad.

Aussie Bob

25-Jul-2006, 06:15 AM

In the opening two hour show, if you take the adds out it goes for about....ummmm.....30 minutes :rolleyes:

Still good viewing though. :)

Another Muay Thai Guy

25-Jul-2006, 11:13 AM

We only got one hour last night. It was okay, could be better though. :)

Adsy

01-Aug-2006, 02:40 PM

Watched Show 2 of Series Two Last night on ITV4, after Missing the first one last week.

What happened to Stallone?? I enjoyed trying to figure out what he was saying in series 1.

Is it me or has it got even cheesier than the first series, and has the noise of the punches that they put in during the fight got even louder?

Still its quite entertaining, probabaly carry on watching, shame they cant transport all the contestants to Love Island, where they could practice on the so called celebrities

tekkengod

01-Aug-2006, 06:33 PM

does anyone really give a crap about the families? i don't. they could have 3 kids with cancer, a wife with 1 leg and TB and i'm still not going to care, people want to see boxing, not sad stories. and the cheap sound effects are very annoying. overall its crap. but it'll keep your average person occupied, so i guess that was the point

aml01_ph

04-Aug-2006, 12:08 PM

I'm still very disappointed with this show. Sure it improved some by removing the physical challenge portion where the winner gets to arrange the match. First two fights of season 2 looked OK, but the 3rd really looks rigged.

Why can't they show the whole fight? 1 round = three minutes with 5 you get fifteen plus 4 minutes for the time between rounds. That's the whole fight. Heck they can show the sob stories and get a lot more episodes. I'm starting to think that they edit the fights on purpose so that you can't see if a boxer is taking a fall.

The Contender rematch sucks. The Bonsante-Mora match result was so wrong! It's obvious that Bonsante got in more hits than Mora and Mora looked the more beat up.

Another Muay Thai Guy

04-Aug-2006, 12:24 PM

The second fight, IMO, although was good to watch from an entertainment perspective, I thought was pretty bad from a boxing point of view - lots of wild punches and just slugging it out on the ropes. Just my view though. :confused:

Apotheosis

04-Aug-2006, 10:21 PM