Hapkido and weapons

[Kwajman]

Hey guys and girls and gifted animals, does hapkido use weapons? If so, whats the most common or traditional? Or in most cases, has hapkido just gotten thrown together with TKD?

[iron_ox]

Hey guys and girls and gifted animals, does hapkido use weapons? If so, whats the most common or traditional? These are two seperate questions. The most common weapons are the cane, sword, dan bong, knife defense, and rope. The "traditional" or the weapons taught by Choi, Yong Sul were three differnt length of dan bong, the cane, the "long knife", the "scrap knife", and the sword.

Or in most cases, has hapkido just gotten thrown together with TKD? Not at all, lots of discussion here about that, but tradtional Hapkido does indeed make up the "self-defense" component of Taekwondo - but the arts are truely seperate.

[Alexander]

At the Club I attend we learn the long staff (Jang Bong) from day one. And there any many others (Haidong Gumdo is taught as well, for example). Though I'm still relatively junior in rank (only been doing it for 5 months now). If you want more info off a Duk Moo HKD practitioner then you should talk to Kosh - I think he'll know all the weapons.

[Kosh]

LOL, the question seems to go off on a bit of a tangent.

We started with the long staff, then short stick, then sword. the short stick is part of the 'applied' hapkido techniques as apposed to staff and sword which are more for conditioning.

I dont have any experience with other HKD schools so i dont know about it being thrown with TKD. Ive seen alot of vids online from schools that teach HKD which seems to be just TKD with a few locks or AKD with a few kicks.

The HKD i learn bares little resemblance to TKD or AKD. What the ratio is of 'fake' to real HKD...i have no idea. Its too high though.

[Kwajman]

Thanks guys, that really did answer my questions.

[Thomas]

Traditional Hapkido - in Korea I studied a little bit of staff, short stick, knife, cane, and sword (and even a couple classes on nunchaku - mainly for fun though!)

Combat Hapkido (non-traditional) - We do stick (escrima stick), knife, short stick, and cane normally. Special seminars and advanced classes can get into firearms and other weapons.

[evilkingston]

where i train we train with weapons once a weak: this usually is dan bong (shoulder lenght), jang bond (longer stick), sword (hankumdo), nunchaku (sunjilbon)... all levels. the black belts also train the very short stick, escrima like... when training with weapons we do forms, but also fight eachother (fixed forms that switch, like i do 6 atacks, you 6 defence and then we switch, increasing the speed); with sword (hankumdo) we also do korean letters (each letter can be formed by movement, like in caligraphy)
in hoshinsul (selfdefence) we also learn defence from knife, and defence with help of belt and cane (walking stick)... this however is not specifically bound to our weaponstraining...
:)

[Kosh]

Seems similar to ours, except the calligraphy part. Does that use modern or traditional korean?

[evilkingston]

Seems similar to ours, except the calligraphy part. Does that use modern or traditional korean?

i think traditional, are the letters of hkd on the federation flag (in my case IHF) traditional or modern - i would say traditional... but not 100% sure...

[Kosh]

thats modern simplified i think.