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NaughtyKnight
01-Feb-2005, 07:58 AM
How do you guys feel after a fight. I dont mean a sparing contest, I mean a fight for your life street fight?

After a fight, if I win, I usually analyse the fight. What I could of done better. I always find something wrong. My mind works really fast, throwing together hundreds of thoughts together at once. I long for another fight also, I have no idea why, but I always want a rematch with that guy so I can do more damage.

After about 10 mins after the fight my hands start to shake like hell. My mind still works bloody fast and I start to feel something like fear. My senses work a thousand times more powerfully, I can hear everything.

How do you guys feel after a fight?

Rebel Wado
01-Feb-2005, 08:44 AM
How do you guys feel after a fight. I dont mean a sparing contest, I mean a fight for your life street fight?

After a fight, if I win, I usually analyse the fight. What I could of done better. I always find something wrong. My mind works really fast, throwing together hundreds of thoughts together at once. I long for another fight also, I have no idea why, but I always want a rematch with that guy so I can do more damage.

After about 10 mins after the fight my hands start to shake like hell. My mind still works bloody fast and I start to feel something like fear. My senses work a thousand times more powerfully, I can hear everything.

How do you guys feel after a fight?

How do I feel after a fight for my life street fight... err... very glad to be alive.

Johnno
01-Feb-2005, 09:23 AM
How do you guys feel after a fight. I dont mean a sparing contest, I mean a fight for your life street fight?

After a fight, if I win, I usually analyse the fight. What I could of done better. I always find something wrong. My mind works really fast, throwing together hundreds of thoughts together at once. I long for another fight also, I have no idea why, but I always want a rematch with that guy so I can do more damage.

After about 10 mins after the fight my hands start to shake like hell. My mind still works bloody fast and I start to feel something like fear. My senses work a thousand times more powerfully, I can hear everything.

How do you guys feel after a fight?

How often do you find yourself having to fight for your life? Sounds from your post like it's a regular event. If that is the case, then it sounds like that is what you should be spending some time thinking about!

hazzamoffin
01-Feb-2005, 09:23 AM
uhm this is a hard one to put into words.

I feel more alive after the fight, like i go through life half asleep the rest of the time. I know what you mean about your senses seeming more acute, and the feeling of fear that kicks in after a fight just seems to arrive after any moment you're about to get hurt/nearly killed.

I always analyse the fight, but normally an hour ot two later, often i find i can't rmember it all at the time. I think about what i could try differently in training if there was anything instinctive i did other might want to know. Its about then that i'm glad i could defend myself and reflect on what i just did, see if i hurt him too much. Its about here i get a feeling of guilt and i never get the feeling of wanting to go back.

For the next couple of days i'll get a wary fear when walking about by myself at night, find myself looking for ways i could run if i needed, or where people might hide. This gradually fades till i get back to normal

Dr.Syn
01-Feb-2005, 10:01 AM
Me I get a headache from the adrenaline dump and that includes a little shaking..Are you a cop? It sounds like you get involved in a lot of altercations..The best thing I feel is I'm going home alive at the end of my shift..

TwIsT
01-Feb-2005, 10:06 AM
I always feel the need to return to, um, for lack of better term, FINISH HIM, but common sense kicks in,all the explosively violent thoughts Remain and i find i dont think i hurt them enough but as i said...common sense.

Play backs work over and over in my mind and i wonder about what could have went wrong, or who was watching, and how good did i look?

All in all, very self centred...

adouglasmhor
01-Feb-2005, 10:07 AM
Shakes, cold feeling and once puked and that was after winning, another time I was so angry with the guy for making me fight I wanted to get tooled up and give him a bigger pasting, but lucky for us both I calmed down, that was over 20 years ago though.

NaughtyKnight
01-Feb-2005, 10:49 AM
Me I get a headache from the adrenaline dump and that includes a little shaking..Are you a cop? It sounds like you get involved in a lot of altercations..The best thing I feel is I'm going home alive at the end of my shift..

Im not a cop yet. Im thinking about joining up after I relax a bit more and get more ma training.

I find myself getting into fights quite alot. I dont enjoy doing it, I hate fighting, but im the kind of guy that people enjoy fighting to prove themselves.

Thanks for your responses. I was intrested in how people felt.

Slindsay
01-Feb-2005, 11:01 AM
I never seem to get into fights for my life on teh str33t, its very upsetting really, all that training and no one to physically injure with it... I feel emasculanated (Is that the right word?)

NaughtyKnight
01-Feb-2005, 11:03 AM
Thats a good thing. Fighting isnt very fun. Especially when you lose and wake up in a bus stop with blood all over you.

Sgt_Major
01-Feb-2005, 11:07 AM
Ive not had a real fight in a few years now (long may it last). but when it happened, I'd black out...as in no memory of the fight or anything up to 30 mins after it....... I always relied on eye witness accounts or cctv to tell me what happened..... glad to say tho' even when I wasnt conciously doing anything, all my instincts took over and dealt well with the situation......afterwards, I just felt tired and sore. and hungry.

NaughtyKnight
01-Feb-2005, 11:11 AM
Yeah I feel hungry after, but the worst is how angry I feel. I feel angry towards everyone and snap at anyone that tries to help me. Let it be mates trying to clean up the cut on my head, to my girlfriend trying to make me feel better.

Sgt_Major
01-Feb-2005, 11:16 AM
Yeah I feel hungry after, but the worst is how angry I feel. I feel angry towards everyone and snap at anyone that tries to help me. Let it be mates trying to clean up the cut on my head, to my girlfriend trying to make me feel better.

My anger dissipates with the last punch/kick. I guess Im lucky that way. :D

NaughtyKnight
01-Feb-2005, 11:23 AM
That you are. :D

Sonshu
01-Feb-2005, 02:10 PM
I feel a nervious energy and a wanting to get out of the area and immediate danger situation.

Sometimes a little gag reflex when the adrenalin is wearing off.

CobraMaximus
01-Feb-2005, 02:16 PM
I feel very tripy. My adrenaline usually booms through the roof so only after a good nights sleep am I calm again. I just cnat stop moving and I feel totally pumped. I do analyse it but not while im sitll adrenaline influenced

old timer
01-Feb-2005, 03:24 PM
Its such a long time ago for me, 10 years to be precise and I can't remember much about it, once the desire for self preservation kicks in everything else is just a blur, but I would be glad to escape uncut or with no broken bones, and once the adrenalin has stopped my knees knocking together I would leg it, I wouldn't hang around for the police to come and take me away.

Hannibal
01-Feb-2005, 04:09 PM
I feel an overwhelming sense of dread because I know I have about thre hours worth of paperwork to get through....

One of my motto's "If you hit 'em, arrest 'em"

Matt_Bernius
01-Feb-2005, 04:16 PM
I feel a nervious energy and a wanting to get out of the area and immediate danger situation.

Sometimes a little gag reflex when the adrenalin is wearing off.
This is a good summary of my experience too. It happens in any adrenal dump situation. Fight or no fight. I once helped at the scene of a roadside accident, helping adminster emergency first aid and I felt the same way about half an hour after.

- Matt

danceofdeath
01-Feb-2005, 04:19 PM
stupid, id feel stupid for fighting if i could just run away instead.. ahehehe.. i hate fighting.. i mean, we at Yaw-Yan are trained to fight.. i just dont like to do it OUTSIDE the ring.. you know what i mean? ahehehe.. i dont like myself and others getting hurt for something i know that we coudve talked bout instead

NaughtyKnight
02-Feb-2005, 04:17 AM
Talking isnt always an option I feel. The majority of the time it is, but when your getting started by a drank guy in the pub or club they dont listen to reason.

I remember I was playing pool at this pub when a guy came up to me and started shouting that I called him an *******. He was sluring and was obviously off his head. I just looked at him and said "I didnt call you anything, you've had to much to drink." He looked at me and appologised and walked off.

Talking can work but sometimes you have to knuckle up and hope you dont get your ass kicked.

holyheadjch
02-Feb-2005, 04:31 AM
Once the shakes have worn off I just feel ashamed, especially if I won, and the shame starts to cause anger at the other guy for making me feel ashamed, which breeds more shame........you get the idea,

Sonshu
02-Feb-2005, 08:39 AM
If it is self defence you have nothing to be ashamed about.

You have the right to walk the streets safe and to defend yourself if attacked. I never feel shame not at all just a little miffed if I have to brawl with the person or persons and can't end it quickly with minimal harm to them.

Self defence is not a dirty thing its practical.

My view anyhow.

CobraMaximus
02-Feb-2005, 12:21 PM
I usually feel guilty because if I get in a serious fight I either get beaten or I knock the living hell and high water out the guy. Once I was in a fight with someone and he was getting really violent and before I knew it Id hooked him five times then booted him and as he bent over gasping I started to pound his head off a table and stuff.

Sonshu
02-Feb-2005, 01:58 PM
Control and restraint techniques or better quality strikes as you could cut down the number of hits you need to to before removing the guy as a danger.

Its easier in the eyes of the law especially in the uk.

danceofdeath
02-Feb-2005, 05:21 PM
well its a whole different situation for me if i needed to defend myself. id rather run or take the other guy down fast and hard. hehe. as ive said, i dont like getting hurt.

leo
02-Feb-2005, 06:03 PM
after a fight how do you feel?- powerful and territorial

CobraMaximus
02-Feb-2005, 06:06 PM
I will often use locks and stuf BUT if the fight starts to get intense so that is not an option and my adrenaline goes I will just knock the living daylightrs out of them if they dont get me first

Sonshu
03-Feb-2005, 08:54 AM
As will anyone but you do have other options and can often end fights before they get out of control.

Dr.Syn
03-Feb-2005, 09:52 AM
I feel an overwhelming sense of dread because I know I have about thre hours worth of paperwork to get through....

One of my motto's "If you hit 'em, arrest 'em"

I hear you there Brother....

lord s
04-Feb-2005, 08:12 PM
I feel great cause I had kicked the attacker butt
lol

Ikken Hisatsu
04-Feb-2005, 08:15 PM
i felt kind of shaky and excited. i wont deny it, i liked the feeling i got after i beat someone.

WatchfulAbyss
04-Feb-2005, 08:35 PM
I always feel disconnected, I can't help it, I have to go and be by myself for a while. For some reason I get more agresive by the moment after something like that, it's very hard to calm down.

Sever
04-Feb-2005, 09:05 PM
I find the way I feel after a fight depends on what it was about and how it went. If I've been backing up a friend or defending someone I care about, my first concern is for them, followed quickly by an overwhelming desire to get everyone the hell out of there. It's not usually until it's been over a while and everyone's safe that I process it; that's when I get the shakes and sometimes feel pretty sick and go over it all in my head - the shakes are a lot worse if I can remember a point where it could have all gone a lot worse, a moment where I wasn't watching my back etc.
If I've been fighting because someone's just gone for me and it's been a self defence situation, but I've come out on top, I feel both exhilirated and confused. I have the rush of putting another man on the deck, but I try to analyse what I could have done to provoke it.
If it's been a stupid thing that I could easily have walked away from (doesn't happen anymore, thankfully, but it did a bit in my younger days), I mostly feel like an idiot, that feeling is amplified by around 1,000,000 if I've lost and had a kicking

gazzthewannabe
05-Feb-2005, 10:37 AM
in a post i featured recently i talked about being attacked by a group in the street which i managed to control and get away with minimum damage to me and to them but then i was punched and got my nose broken by one of they're older cousins 5 mins arfter the first confrentation n then the group from before came and started kicking me when i was on the floor.

i felt really bad and i still do(this is very recent) part of me tells me i should of really mucked em up and then i would of got hurt myself but i know that i controlled the power i have and i didn't hurt anybody since everyone on this site whos at least a begginer knows(or have started to realise) the power and knoledge they get from martial arts. but its a wierd feeling almost like embarressment and the general blues.

but yeah i feel the shakes and i go into hyperactive sensual acuteness too but im alot more violent and i get wierd feelings/thoughts of violence...does anyone else have this

Rebel Wado
05-Feb-2005, 04:00 PM
gazzthewannabe, a lot of what people are describing are the affects of adrenalin from the natural "fight or flight" emergency response. Normally when the threat is gone the emergency response mechanism shuts down and your body returns to a normal mode to recover. Sometimes the affects continue as stress, this is natural but can be unhealthy in the long term. For example:

Telltale Signs according to ( http://www.virginiacops.org/Articles/Stress/Stress.htm )

The warning signs of stress overload include:

1. Irritability, being upset, angry, and short-tempered. Finding yourself over-reacting and snapping at people.

2. Sleep disturbances - either not being able to sleep well or, conversely, spending excessive time in bed hiding and avoiding contact with the real world.

3. Changes of eating patterns such as a loss of appetite or a compulsion to eat constantly.

4. Intrusive thoughts -- replaying or reliving events over and over again in your mind.

5. A feeling of guilt (I could have done more or I should have done things differently, etc.).

6. A lack of concentration or a sense of helplessness, anger (at self or others), frustration, alienation, loneliness or confusion.

7. Onset of physical maladies such as problems with the stomach, bowels, headaches, or skin disorders. Physical signs can also include cold or sweaty hands, constant muscular tension, especially in the back, neck, and shoulders, tension in the jaw or grinding your teeth, fatigue, and nervousness (feeling keyed up). Of course, we all feel some of these symptoms some of the time, but when they are intense and/or constant, that's stress, my friend.


IMO, some of this stress can be dealth with by just changing your attitude. For instance, if you feel you could have done better, change the bar that you measure your actions by. Instead of thinking you lost a fight, change your attitude to believe that any fight you can walk away from is a win -- if you survive a fight, you have won.


Here is what http://www.virginiacops.org/Articles/Stress/Stress.htm has to say about solutions to stress:

Solutions

What, then, can be done to reduce the potential lethality of job demands, an unhealthy life style, stress and trauma? Fortunately, there are several simple and practical steps one can take. Just as you, a police officer, might put on a protective Kevlar vest to blunt the potential affect of a criminals bullet, so, too, you can learn to armor-proof yourself in an emotional sense.

First: legitimatize your feelings. Accept that you may not have all the answers and that, despite your best efforts, you may not always be able to make things come out right. You are a human being with human feelings. You are not Wonder Woman or Superman. You have certain strengths and talents, but you also have some limitations and weaknesses, too. Most importantly, its OK to have them. Nobody is perfect!

Second: learn to monitor yourself and to be honest about your feelings and needs. You can BS others, but the face that looks back from the mirror knows when you are telling the truth and when you are indulging in the massive application of toro-feculence (That means spreading a lot of bull s---, just in case you were wondering!). If you notice that you are experiencing any of the stress symptoms mentioned above, especially if they are persisting for any length of time after an event or have become a more or less chronic pattern in your life, then get help. Talk to someone you trust. Seek out the services of a professional counselor or therapist. The wrong thing to do would be to deny their existence or that they are a very normal and human reaction to something which is beyond your ability to cope successfully.

Third: develop positive anti-stress habits. The following is a list of twenty-one guidelines which will help you to develop a powerful and positive defense against the effects of stress.

1. Know your strengths and accept your limitations.

2. Be introspective - take time to monitor yourself and be aware of what is going on...AND WHY.

3. Learn to laugh. Don't take life (or yourself) so seriously. Norman Cousins, the famous writer, attributes the remission of his cancer to a stack of old classic slapstick comedy movies, which he watched over and over again until, as he said, he laughed his cancer away.

4. Organize yourself by developing plans and priorities, but be flexible enough to be able to respond to changing situations - Being over-rigid can be just as stress-producing and self-destructive as having no plans or inadequate ones. Organizing makes life a lot less hectic and promotes a sense of I am in control.

5. Remind yourself that you may not be able to control those things which happen around you or the actions and words of other people, but you have 100% ability to control your reactions to them.

6. Make certain that your plans and priorities include plenty of time for you and yours, there's nothing wrong with taking that kind of time, no matter how busy your schedule is or how many demands are being made upon you. Not too long ago, I had a long heart-to-heart with a friend who is a priest. He was literally on the verge of worrying and working himself to death in an effort to attend to all the needs of his flock. When I suggested he needed to take time out for himself, he gave me a pained look and said that he just couldn't be that selfish, that people needed him so badly. (Which was true. He is a very diligent and caring person, but the demands placed upon him by both himself and others were rapidly bringing him to the point of physical and emotional collapse.) I suggested to him that if he did not practice a little selfishness on a regular basis so that he could attend to some of his own needs, he would soon be incapable of attending to anyone's! I rested my case!

7. Learn simple relaxation techniques. Knowing how to do a progressive relaxation or deep breathing or self-hypnosis can act like magic to shrug off the symptoms of physical and emotional stress.

8. A few minutes spent listening to some favorite quiet music while focusing on slow, relaxing breathing is often worth a handful of Valium and a whole lot easier on your system!

9. Practice good nutrition by eating the right kinds of foods and cutting back on the bad stuff, especially limiting those which are known to cause problems like heavy greasy junk foods wolfed down on the run.

10. Make sure your diet includes plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables and is rich in fiber and complex carbohydrates such as grains, pasta, rice, etc.

11. Limit your intake of sugar, alcohol, and caffeine. (Watch those daily stop-offs at the doughnut shack!)

12. Make sure you get enough vitamins and minerals. Anti-stress and anti-oxidants such as vitamins A, B-complex, C, D, and E are all important. Enough means adequate, not mega doses. Perhaps one of the best guides is THE VITAMIN BIBLE by Mindell. Its available in paperback and is written in a clear, simple, no-nonsense style.

13. Listen when your body talks to you. Don't ignore those signs which tell you you're pushing too hard or not taking proper care of yourself. Headaches, backaches, skin disorders, grumbles in the tummy and its nether regions are messages. Danger, Will Robinson!

14. Avoid long term or regular use of medications, including over-the-counter drugs unless you are doing so under a physicians care. Even then, the question should always be Is there something which I can do which will allow me to be able to discontinue the use of these medications? It would be poor advice to discontinue a medication for, say, an ulcer when it is flaring up and your tummy is feeling like the convention site of the B.O.A. (Blowtorch Operators of America). However, merely treating the symptoms is also ill-advised. You should make every attempt to identify what is causing the ulcer in the first place and then work towards reducing or eliminating that cause. Ulcers are frequently caused by and exacerbated by stress, so while you are taking the prescribed medication for the symptom, take a hard look at your life and find out what is causing the ulcer. Any physician will tell you that treating only the symptoms is not practicing good medicine.

15. Use relaxers such as aerobics, exercise, walking, jogging, swimming, yoga, massage, sauna, meditation, self-hypnosis, games, etc.

16. Learn to leave your job at work. This is one of the most difficult things for cops to do.

17. Develop time for family and friends. Make and maintain friendships with people who don't work with you, so that you have some outside interests and do not end up talking shop when you are trying to socialize. Sure, cops are clannish and tend to limit most of their social contacts to other cops, but enlarge the circle and find non-cop friends. According to research, a circle of supportive friends will help you to live longer and be healthier.

18. For many, relying on your faith can be a source of solace and an anchor in a sea of uncertainty.

19. Get a hobby or two (or three!!!) I am often amazed at how much better I feel after a long day when I spend some time in my garden or just stick my nose in a good book.

20. Learn to have long honest talks with that face in the mirror and to engage some positive self talk. You can BS. a lot of people, but the face that stares back at you in the mirror knows when you're spreading the bovine excrement.

21. Learn how to say no. Cops, especially, have a hard time saying no. A lot of self-induced stress overload is simply the result of over- extending yourself.

The bottom line then, to combat stress, that deadly killer which takes more lives every year than any gun or other weapon, is to practice both preventative and remedial techniques. It begins with learning to monitor your feelings, to give yourself permission to accept them as legitimate, and to take those positive steps necessary to work them through. Finally, to understand that you can practice stress-proofing yourself by doing a few of the things mentioned above to change your life style. Prevention is always better than remediation and its especially true in combating this lethal effects of this deadly killer called stress.


There is more here: http://www.virginiacops.org/Articles/Stress/Stress.htm

Nrv4evr
05-Feb-2005, 05:01 PM
I dunno, I never really feel anything. I know they'll come back and probably kick my ass the next time. When I win, it's more of a mix of surprise and preparation for the next fight. A loss is a loss of confidence, and I always consider where I went wrong, and how to improve that.

El Tejon
05-Feb-2005, 05:31 PM
I've gotten the "shakes" fairly bad.

Splush
06-Feb-2005, 02:05 AM
i felt kind of shaky and excited. i wont deny it, i liked the feeling i got after i beat someone.


That’s how I feel sometimes before I get into a fight and after as well. I also feel kind of liberated in a weird way... For a period of two weeks the fight will dominate my mind, replaying over and over again and I analyze and critique it.

But I have to work on keeping my cool when I get into a fight, or at least don’t get so angry so I can't function right. Don’t get me wrong in a fight anger is of course a good thing to have it can be a good motivating and driving force but if you have to much of it, it blinds you and it hurts your technique, skill, balance, wits, and thoughts a-lot.

Scarlet Mist
06-Feb-2005, 02:42 AM
I don't fight.

Lance Havock
08-Feb-2005, 05:37 PM
As a bouncer I am paid to break up fights. Which for the most part turns into active participation. Here lately I have been hating it because I only like to work as hard as I have too.

if you feel good it is only cause you won

NaughtyKnight
09-Feb-2005, 06:53 AM
Thats my motto my friend. :D

ats
13-Feb-2005, 02:48 PM
i haven't been in a real (fear for your life) type fight for about 5 years.
And then i took a hell of a kicking (5 on one doesn't help!)

i don't remember any pain or fear, just a strange detatchment like it's happening to someone else. (i had this feeling even when i came off the better in fights too. wierd)
I ended up calmly walking off home.
Must have been a sight considering the state i was in.
Afterwards though, i became paranoid and scared all the time!

I still watch my back, and always think about where to run. Often take note of things lying on the ground that could be used as weapons and think how far i'd have to run to get back to them! For a while it became quite an obsessive compulsion. I'm glad i didn't go as far as starting to walk around armed (though i certainly entertained the idea)

Learning MA has affected me greatly. I still have these compulsions but don't have the panic that was associated with them.
I wouldn't say i'm confident or that i'm any less wary than before, my life just isn't now governed by fear, and for that i'll always be glad i took up MA.

Keysi_chick
24-Feb-2005, 09:52 AM
well being a chick i havent really got into a lot of fights just one or two recently. I was out with my m8s and one of them is pretty vulnerable and some girl pushed her and started on her, my m8 just went "ok, fair enough" and walked away but i stood up for her, i pushed this bint back and then she automatically flew for me but i moved out of the road and just gave her a darn good side kick to the ribs and then gave her a few punches to the face then my m8's came and took me away but after it, i was so furious that she had done that for no reason to my m8 that i punched a wall... :bang: but i was shaking and felt a cold sweat coming on but after it i felt good that i had stood up to some girl who picked on my m8 for no reason :Angel:

Yossarian75
24-Feb-2005, 10:15 AM
I tend to feel guilty that I hurt the person and worried about repercusions ie a knock on the door from the police or a brick through my window.

NaughtyKnight
24-Feb-2005, 10:33 AM
well being a chick i havent really got into a lot of fights just one or two recently. I was out with my m8s and one of them is pretty vulnerable and some girl pushed her and started on her, my m8 just went "ok, fair enough" and walked away but i stood up for her, i pushed this bint back and then she automatically flew for me but i moved out of the road and just gave her a darn good side kick to the ribs and then gave her a few punches to the face then my m8's came and took me away but after it, i was so furious that she had done that for no reason to my m8 that i punched a wall... :bang: but i was shaking and felt a cold sweat coming on but after it i felt good that i had stood up to some girl who picked on my m8 for no reason :Angel:

A martial art cat fight. I love it. :D :love:

mr_vodka
24-Feb-2005, 01:55 PM
I'd say the feeling after a fight depends from the outcome :sage nod:

Cownose
24-Feb-2005, 02:10 PM
The last time I was involved in a fight, I wouldn't answer the door without my stick for the next 2 weeks :p

Lucharaan
24-Feb-2005, 04:33 PM
After a fight my mouth is dry and needs food or water or somethin.

Florida Warlock
24-Feb-2005, 11:18 PM
Hungry... then again I'm always hungry.

But seriously: the fight is over, I won- If I'm conscious, I'm happy. If I didn't win, I'm probably not conscious so I can't 'feel' anyway. Never been KOed before and don't plan to be.

After the fight I either feel satisfied because they got what they deserved, or I'm mad because I have to prove that I didn't start it.. which I really never do (start it, that is- I prove I didn't every time, somehow).

Nrv4evr
25-Feb-2005, 12:41 AM
Hungry... then again I'm always hungry.

But seriously: the fight is over, I won- If I'm conscious, I'm happy. If I didn't win, I'm probably not conscious so I can't 'feel' anyway. Never been KOed before and don't plan to be.


Isn't that contradictory? You've never been KOed, yet you say if you lost, you wouldn't be conscious...? Are you saying you've never lost a fight?

NaughtyKnight
25-Feb-2005, 04:32 AM
Ive never been Ko'd but I have lost a few fights. Falling to the ground and taking a 100 kicks counts as losing I feel.

Black Thistle
17-Mar-2005, 01:41 PM
Late post....oh well

I'm kind of retired now but drawing from experience I've had a few scraps and not wanting to come across as arogant, but I've never lost one fight on the street. I've taken a few hits and been jumped when younger by 6 or 7 people....does that count? I feel pretty much nothing, it's showtime kind of thing and just go with instincts. I guess I've just been lucky.

Nrv4evr
17-Mar-2005, 03:09 PM
There is no luck on the street. Just getting out without being injured... or a mind numbing loss. If you beat 7 guys, then I salute you.

Amrod
17-Mar-2005, 04:53 PM
I feel like ****.

I only had to fight once. After the fight, I was totally angry, allmost emotionally collapsing (is that the word?), my hands were shaking like hell, and I was totally sensitized, my senses were like 10000 times more powerfull, and my memory of the event seemed... weird.

That is, I recall what happened, but I can't remember how much time it was. It can be either 30 seconds or an hour, I don't know, and I get like flashes, not a whole mind moving picture.

And my anger is not a "I want to kill that guy" or something, it's more like "Why o' why do I have to get this far to stay alive?". I mean, it makes me totally MAD to have to kick somebody's butt and carry the guilt on my shoulders for like a month. It's not fair.

I just wish I wouldn't have to do that and beign into MA's ONLY for fun, instead of beign into MA's for fun AND for self defence.

Youkai
17-Mar-2005, 09:23 PM
Depending on the why's and wherefore's

Buzzing - Self defence / standing up for someone else - I can't stand to see people being picked on (most recent probably tackling three guys who were assaulting a tramp - one went and locked himself in some ladies toilets :D )

Ashamed - Not since I was much younger (usually causing the fight with a smart alex comment). Ah just remembered the embarrassing recent one - my wife asked a bunch of guys in front of us at the cinema if they could please quieten down and one of them let rip with a flurry of abuse along the lines of "F*** of you F***ing old cow .....". Like a fool I literally dive head first over the row of seats and pin him to the seats behind by his throat. I advise him that he and his mates will sit quitely through the film and that I'll be quite happy to deal with him after (maybe not in those words). They did just that and at the end of the film left very quickly. My wife simply said "next time hon do you thing that perhaps you could just have a word with the cinema manager and have them removed?" :o

Lucky - Did a bit of doorman (bouncer) work in my youth - not a safe profession for someone as short as me :eek:

Concussed - Don't pick a fight with a chap with the nickname sasquatch (Big Foot). I gave away about a foot in height and probably 6 stone in weight, nothing like testing the boundaries eh? :D

Highkick
17-Mar-2005, 09:27 PM
After about 10 mins after the fight my hands start to shake like hell. My mind still works bloody fast and I start to feel something like fear. My senses work a thousand times more powerfully, I can hear everything.




That, my friend, is an adrenaline rush, also known as a battle high. Feels good, doesn't it?

Black Thistle
17-Mar-2005, 11:24 PM
There is no luck on the street. Just getting out without being injured... or a mind numbing loss. If you beat 7 guys, then I salute you.

:D :D no, I meant I got jumped by about 7 individuals and couldn't do much apart from cover up. At one point there was so many of them trying to hit me none of them actually landed and I walked away mark free. Unreal.

Fighting is not a nice experience but you can get used to it to a certain degree. I now practice a bit of Zen...I can also say with honesty I have never started a fight in my life. At times though, just haven't avoided them. I don't even think about it now. I prefer to develop as a person.

Ancient history.........My latest encounter, about 10 months ago. I was talking a short cut through my local park. It was at night and I guess isn't a place you want to be walking through past a certain hour but it doesn't bother me. Anyway, I was walking my usual route when it became apparent that there was some low life idiot arguing with his women. His friend was a few metres behind. I kept walking but I must've startled him coming out from the darkness. He walked up to me aggresively "Aye mate! what you ******* up to? not wanting to show my back I turned round. As it was dark he clearly never got a good look at me. I allowed him to walk up to me at arms length to which heinstantly said...."aye, your alright mate" i.e bottled it as he knew he was out gunned once he got a close up. I said to his women friend that he didn't know how lucky he was. There's a reason to this story. Going back only 2 years ago I wouldn't have hesitated in smashing his face to pieces before moving on to his friend. I would've just seen something like that as a test that I had to pass. That how much I've changed. The reason behind this is because I had a narrow escape from bars from a similar encounter where had I have thrown another 3 or 4 hits, the guy may have died. I needed this to happen to me. It now makes me think and only act in absolute self defense. Anyway....sorry for ranting

gardon
18-Mar-2005, 01:13 AM
Immense pride! I stood over him and looked at him on the ground looking like he hasn't learned to walk yet. That's right {*beep*}, next time you think you can talk {*beep*} and get away with it, think again.

Also, after fighting and totally owning someone people don't bother you ever again.

Keep up the good work guys.

Nrv4evr
18-Mar-2005, 01:14 AM
Wow... somebody enjoys winning. :D

NaughtyKnight
18-Mar-2005, 09:45 AM
That, my friend, is an adrenaline rush, also known as a battle high. Feels good, doesn't it?

Its not all that pleasent. I feel too worried to feel pleasure.

spiff
22-Mar-2005, 02:59 AM
i kind of go into a daze for a few minutes afterwards, it's like my brain shuts off once the threat is out of the way. once i forgot i had been pummeled in the gonads until while the police were interviewing me (not to tell me off) when i suddenly said "oh yeh, i forgot, but i got kicked in the balls" and the cop found it quite funny how i'd managed to forget about that. especially as one of my balls was rather swollen.

NaughtyKnight
22-Mar-2005, 07:03 AM
I dont think I could ever forget getting nutted. :cry:

Black Thistle
22-Mar-2005, 12:38 PM
Yeah, I remember clearly being nutted. It was 13yrs ago when I was 18. Predictably, I was in a bar in the days when all that was important to me was the weekends/ women :cool: It was literally for nothing as he thought I was talking about him? obviosuly just out for a fight. Guy was alot older and bigger also. My nose was kind of bleeding for 20 mins or so but I continued on my night out :cool: I have to admit, thats what got me into boxing. The thought of someone just coming up to me and doing that just didn't tickle my fancy. After a few years improving my gladatorial skills :D that won't happen again...touch wood ;)

shinobi187
23-Mar-2005, 01:01 AM
After a fight I usually feel really pumped up but also a bit shaky (Im guessing coz of the adrenaline). After the adrenaline has worn off i start to think "s**t my jaw really hurts" :cry:

Albert
05-Apr-2005, 10:53 AM
Well in a life or death street fight.. if i win, i feel fine.. if i lose, i feel dead..

Johnno
05-Apr-2005, 12:43 PM
Well in a life or death street fight.. if i win, i feel fine.. if i lose, i feel dead..

How often do you have these 'life or death' street fights?

NaughtyKnight
05-Apr-2005, 12:52 PM
How often do you have these 'life or death' street fights?

LOL, I was about to ask how it feels to be dead. ;)

Nrv4evr
05-Apr-2005, 07:08 PM
For that, I would refer you to Twelve Egg's sig (or former sig, dunno if he changed it :p )

tengu
15-Apr-2005, 02:28 PM
I dunno about this, I've only had one "live" fight, I won (if you ever really do, in this situation) against a former friend, he was a mess, I felt for want of a better word, incredibly violent, aggressive yet very detached,whilst we were fighting I particularly enjoyed striking him.
Yet, (back to if we truly win) aftermath is always painful. I may have won the fight, but I lost a friend, and (at the risk of sounding....) a peice of myself. I started to cry buckets when I sat down at home, when I looked back at what I had done, and the last look on his face as he walked away, I remembered how I felt and was truly horrified by it.
Now, I can't get psyched up enough to spar effectivey, and shy away form any form of confrontation, even if it's needed. Yet it's made me appreciate peaceful solutions all the more.

mattjd
25-Apr-2005, 01:00 AM
After a fight I feel like I had felt before the fight. Even during a fight I feel fine. Although the first few fights I had been in I had found it hard to recover emotionally, but that's normal.

Matt

tekkengod
25-Apr-2005, 01:05 AM
high on adrenaline, but i do the same thing as KC, i analyze it and want to hurt him more, anyone who has the balls to challange me has the balls to absorb all the knees i can throw, i have a hard time stopping myself half the time the anger just intesifies with every strike.

adrenaline is such a wonderful thing.

tekkengod
25-Apr-2005, 01:09 AM
an adrenaline rush, also known as a battle high. Feels good, doesn't it?


oh god yes it does.

the best adrenaline rush i ever got was from jet skiing, i get happy just thinking about it. guess i'm a speed junkie at heart.

Bil Gee
29-Apr-2005, 08:28 PM
Most fights can be avoided by being polite but assertive and remaining calm. This is a lot easier to do without an andrenalin rush.


I did have a situation a few days ago when I went into a cafe to have a drink because I was early for class. There was a drunk stood by the counter who looked at me and mumbled something while I was being served, I didn't feel threatened and took my coffee over to a table quickly glad that I hadn't got into a confrontation. I sat in the corner so that I could see what was going on at the counter, he appeared to be complaining about having been overcharged. I watched discretely but after a couple of minutes he was getting more and more threatening, so I quietly called the police on my mobile and told them what was happening. A few minutes later the situation had escalated and he was reaching across the counter and looking like he was going to slap the girl behind the till. I went over to him and told him politely and calmly that he had gone to far and if he didn't leave the cafe now I would be giving him a slap. He protested a bit but I slowly walked forward and he walked backwards until he was out of the door and then he turned round and walked off. I walked back to my table and continued with my cup of coffee. At this point I was still very calm and was not feeling an adrenalin rush.

Two minutes later I saw him quickly walking towards the cafe, he came in and started to walk directly towards were I was sat. At this point I got my adrenalin rush. I became very aware of a drop in my ability or desire to find a peaceful solution. I stood up walked towards him very quickly just saying "get back", I gave him no chance to actually move back and by the third "get back" he was within striking distance. As I shouted at him I simultaneously did a very short range palm strike to the chest that looked like a push. I think his feet left the floor briefly but I couldn't swear to it and he went back about two feet with a very stunned look on his face and his limbs flailing like a rag dog. I told him to get out and he went straight to the door into the arms of the police, the police told me that they had had CCTV camera's on the cafe since I phoned them and had "blue lighted" as soon as he was seen coming back towards the cafe.

So in answer to the question, after reflecting on the whole series of events many times I would sum up my feelings after the fight (well not quite a fight but a "laying on of hands") as:

1) Guilt - no chance. I had already gone to great lengths to remove him from the situation without hurting him. Although he was drunk he was still capable of throwing something at me, spitting at me, pulling a knife on me. I'm not his social worker or counsellor, I don't give a **** if he had a difficult childhood or an alcohol problem he was intimidating the staff and then had come in because he thought that fact that I hadn't hit him meant I was bluffing and he would have a good chance of intimidating me. The blow that I landed on him was no worse than the blows I had received whilst learning the technique, and knew exactly what he was feeling after the strike.

2) The shakes - yes, but much less so than other situations that had not gone beyond the posturing stage. That single blow seemed to dissipate the adrenaline a lot.

3) Good - Yes, as I replay the situation in my mind I do find myself smiling as I remember the expression on his face as he hit the wall.

4) Dissapointed - A little, the technique was meant to be followed up by a finger strike to the throat when he came at me again, to make him stagger backwards a second time. I felt cheated that he gave up before we got started.

tekkengod
29-Apr-2005, 08:48 PM
Most fights can be avoided by being polite but assertive and remaining calm. This is a lot easier to do without an andrenalin rush.


that may be true, but if you get some punk with some buddies who thinks he has to show off, they'll grow the balls to attack Liddle if need be, some things just can't be diffused.

Bil Gee
29-Apr-2005, 09:08 PM
that may be true, but if you get some punk with some buddies who thinks he has to show off, they'll grow the balls to attack Liddle if need be, some things just can't be diffused.

I've also met people who are antisocial and sadistic and enjoy getting into fights and inflicting injury on others for no reason. These people are fortunately rare, but they do exist. So I agree that there are situations were the best way of dealing with it is by pumelling their heads until they go down, thats why I said "many" rather than "all" situations.

tekkengod
29-Apr-2005, 09:51 PM
ok, thats true, there is a diffrence between being sadistic and just plain stupid though.

dru19
19-May-2005, 08:24 PM
i usually feel bad after fist fighting becuase i shouldnt have been fighting in the frist place, fighting out here usually leads to worse things then just one on one

Nick K
19-May-2005, 09:08 PM
had 3 fights as an adult. always been attacked - dont drink, not violent

First one I didnt feel anything as I was trying to stand up and was wondering where my teeth were. very angry later, but too late to do anything about it.

Second one, felt cool at first, then got angry at the man when he was down on the floor and *outraged* when he'd attacked me at work. Managed to control him without getting hurt till the police got there - he was v drunk

Third one I managed effectively but still felt shaken - dealt with by a two handed shove, sidestep and neck crank while yelling for help - he was psychotic

SCP_Kensei
25-May-2005, 10:00 PM
Once the adrenaline slows and my "business head" switches off I fell great. Fighting is a great rush to me and it gives me a thrill. That said I onlt feel like that if the people I am with are not hurt, if they are then It upsets me that my friends/loved ones were harmed, and I feel remorse that I could not protect them.

Immediately after the fight when my business head is on I think and feel nothing at all. when my business head is on I am concerned solely with survival, and the defence of those I am with. I dont think about the techniques I employ or the effect of what I am doing, to think about it would slow me down and risk my survival. Immediately after my only concern is to flee the scene with the people I am with and seek medical assistance if necessary.


The above may look like I am the kind of idiot that foes out on a Friday night looking for trouble but that is not true. I do not seek violence and I will NOT fight untill the safety fo myself or my companions is at risk, I will talk my way out of a fight if possible and will not retaliate to the first few strikes of an attack (unless they are aimed at a loved one), as most drunks in Newcastle seem to be happy to hit you once and then walk away feeling big about themselves. If it has to go beyond that then the business head goes on and I dow what is necessary, but afterwards the sense of relief that I have survived intact is uplifting and really puts all the training I have had these past years into perspective.

Fighting is NEVER a good thing, but it feels good afterwards.

For the record I have only had 5 physical encounters on the streets in the last 6 and a half years. 2 of them I was able to diffuse without having to get serious.

TheCount
26-May-2005, 11:38 AM
Pumped on adrenaline, really triping

NaughtyKnight
26-May-2005, 12:53 PM
I had a fight with a mate during the Origin. We were both off our heads (as you can probably tell from my posts on that day:D), and started screwing around.

He is the aggressive type that loves getting in fights, I more of an easy going guy, im over fighting.

He knows that I do ma, and so wanted to see what I can do. I told him to {insert swearing} off. He punched me in the face, and told me to do something. He punched me again, i ducked it and headbutt him, knocking him onto the ground and koing for a few seconds.

He got up, and I push kicked him into the wall. I then sat back down and opened a beer. He sat down and looked pissed off.

I didnt even think about it again that night, but I feel kinda bad today. I know that he started it, but I should of really defused it without almost breaking his face in half.

I hate fighting with friends...

#1 Stutta
29-May-2005, 08:55 AM
After a serious fight (where I white out and can't control or remember anything), I cry. I also cry after I get really mad.

Doublejab
29-May-2005, 11:55 AM
Sick. I hate fighting.

tekkengod
29-May-2005, 08:05 PM
Sick. I hate fighting.

:eek: you just need to be injected with a syringe full of adrenaline and put on a steady diet of testosterone supplements.

KevinK37
29-May-2005, 08:17 PM
I haven't been in a fight since the 8th grade and that was over 26 years ago. I don't know what would happen now if I got in one.

LJoll
29-May-2005, 10:12 PM
I normaly feel a bit cold and shaky and exited and angry with passers by.

Doublejab
29-May-2005, 10:39 PM
:eek: you just need to be injected with a syringe full of adrenaline and put on a steady diet of testosterone supplements.

Oh I get the adrenaline rush alright. In the (very few) fights I've had I always start off very angry and wanting to kill them but as soon as I hit someone I feel sick and want nothing better than to stop the fight asap. Fighting is horrible, people get hurt.

I'm sure if I got into more fights I'd get used to it but I don't want to; I'll be happy if I never have to fight for real again for the rest of my life.

Oddly enough I'll do my best to knock someone out when I'm sparring and feel fine about it!

tekkengod
30-May-2005, 05:40 AM
I always start off very angry and wanting to kill them but as soon as I hit someone I feel sick and want nothing better than to stop the fight asa

:eek: well you have to make positive not to do that or you could get hurt or killed. thats the strangest impulse i've ever heard. i can't stop, i have to keep going until they are limp. i keep feeding them knees all the way down. i just can't stop. its such a rush. but point being, don't do that or the consequences of you stopping will be bad.

JayKayD
30-May-2005, 03:07 PM
Are you talking about in a real/street fight or in the ring?

tekkengod
30-May-2005, 04:42 PM
either one. does it matter? ring or cage/street. if he stops attacking like that he'll get nailed.

JayKayD
30-May-2005, 05:26 PM
Well yes it does. They are completely different.

Every time i get in a fight part of me is crapping myself incase i seriously injure him or vice versa. Theres been a lot of times i've hurt someone and wondered if i've gone too far. Hell i was in a fight where i thought someone had been killed because he was knocked out cold and bleeding so much. Thats not a nice feeling. I don't know how many times i've worried about police knocking on my door or someone i've fought getting a group of mates and coming looking for me when i'm by myself. You feel good for a bit but its a natural reaction to have guilt/paranoia.

One of my friends at uni is one the hardest bastards your ever likely to meet. He's been in more fights than many of us have had hot dinners. You just have to look at his mangled knuckles to know it. Near the start of uni he got into a fight with no less than 3 people at once, and won. He became so depressed he nearly quit uni because of it.

You get none of that in Vale Tudo.

NaughtyKnight
31-May-2005, 05:18 AM
Your absolutely right JayKay!

The times I got the most bashed, was from revengful jumpings after I beat up one of their friends in a "fair fight".

To be honnest, I much prefer fighting at the Dojang, in my JKD school or in a basement with the lads. Its a healthy way to realse your anger and everyone benefits. You must make it safe though, you dont want to be permently injure a mate.

Im so glad I found ma, or I would most probably be dead by now.

Doublejab
31-May-2005, 03:37 PM
either one. does it matter? ring or cage/street. if he stops attacking like that he'll get nailed.

In full contact sparring I have no quarms about going in till they're on the ground. But I suppose I know that theres headguards and gloves worn and causing really serious damage is unlikely.

One proper fight I had involved me slamming this guy against a bus stop, then uppercutting him. His head jerked back and hit the side of it, horrible sound! As it goes he seemed alright and carried on fighting but I had no stomach for it anymore and I just shoved him over and legged it. I could hear the police coming as well.

No one ever wins in a street fight. The ring I wear(given to me by my grandmother) has a nasty dent in from when I punched someone while wearing it, V annoying.

A friend of mine was knocking this bloke for six once, (the guy was totally drunk and had been really hassling my friends girlfriend) and the last punch he hit him with was a hook that landed badly. My friend didn't notice untill after the fight had finished and the adrenaline had stopped pumping that he'd broken two knuckles, they've never been the same since.

I do take your point though Tekken, and if I ever have to fight again for real (God forbid) I'll keep going untill they aren't a threat any longer.

tekkengod
31-May-2005, 08:37 PM
well it sounded like he was beaten into submission enough to where you were able to run anyway, u were right to get the hell out of there. good you see my point, you can't afford to stop. my philosiphy is that if they have the balls to attack ME
then they are going to endure every ounce of damage i inflict, and if that happens to bring them within an inch of their life, so be it, i have no mercy for a person who obviously has no reguard for my life.

Albert
01-Jun-2005, 04:13 AM
my philosiphy is that if they have the balls to attack ME
then they are going to endure every ounce of damage i inflict, and if that happens to bring them within an inch of their life, so be it, i have no mercy for a person who obviously has no reguard for my life.

Thats put very well, you have an awesome philosophy TG, i feel the same way.


Anyway.. i fought my brother today, and i just felt tired afterward, haha. Ok so it wasnt a life or death fight, it was just some sparring, but whatever ive had no recent street fights to post about..

tengu
01-Jun-2005, 09:42 AM
It seems that we all follow the same basic pattern:

1:the first adrenal dump
2:Raising of aggression (feel more violent)
3:Actual encounter (feel like you have a turbo/supercharger in there somewhere), (time/memory distortion), (senses/reflexes hyped up)
4:The come down when the forebrain takes over again and your personality resurfaces, then depending on what/how you did and how that sits with your moral compass dpends on the resultant emotional state.

NaughtyKnight
01-Jun-2005, 12:47 PM
my philosiphy is that if they have the balls to attack ME
then they are going to endure every ounce of damage i inflict, and if that happens to bring them within an inch of their life, so be it, i have no mercy for a person who obviously has no reguard for my life.
..

Great philosophy! Thats why you will win and they will lose, all fighting takes is a killer instinct, fighting comes naturally.

ThaiBxr
01-Jun-2005, 07:15 PM
In serious need of makeup sex.

Afthelador
01-Jun-2005, 11:40 PM
When I was six, a couple older boys (about 12-13). Came into the bathroom behind me, and I didn't see until they were there. There was nobody else, and so they started making jabs at me. I was trying to leave, and they wouldn't let me, and continued jabing and threatening me. I finnaly had enough, and decided to kick the closest one. He caught my kick and threw it up in the air. I don't know how long, but I was knocked out pretty much cold as I remember seeing black and waking up on the floor later. Not a happy experience.

A few years later, I had a fight with someone who ws actually my age. We were having some fun with friends, and he just kept pushing me and generally starting trouble physically. I decided enough was enough and I think I kicked him. The fight ended up on the ground after a few minutes, and after what seemed like forever I was able to grab him and twist his leg in a odd way. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but he was limping for a while, and started screaming when I did it.


After the first fight, I was very scared, and freaked out. After the second one, I was just glad to end it on top, and got out of there fast.