MAP-UK 2005 (was "Possible UK MAP workshop")

[Pat OMalley]

Having been on MAP for a few months now, I have been noticing here in the UK that there is more than just a few top class MA instructors who visit MAP to discuss a wide range of topics.

This has got me thinking of possibly organising a UK-MAP workshop / seminar.

So I would like to know which UK Based MAP instructors you would like to see teaching at a MAP workshop / seminar that would only be open to MAP members.

Any suggestions on who, where and when?? and any ideas you on what format it could take.

Regards


Pat

[semphoon]

There is usually a cross training day at Heriot Watt University in Edinburgh in Feb where instructors from MAP will provide training in a variety of MAs.

Also there are MAP meets where we get together and roll/spar. Hopefully there will be one in January. But it would be good to get together for more seminars etc so what the eh.

[JohnnyX]

Having been on MAP for a few months now, I have been noticing here in the UK that there is more than just a few top class MA instructors who visit MAP to discuss a wide range of topics.

This has got me thinking of possibly organising a UK-MAP workshop / seminar.

So I would like to know which UK Based MAP instructors you would like to see teaching at a MAP workshop / seminar that would only be open to MAP members.

Any suggestions on who, where and when?? and any ideas you on what format it could take.

Regards

Pat

Sounds like a good idea. :)

From looking at previous threads, it won't be 'a MAP Meeting' unless it's given the green light by Admins, who also have a say in how it's organised/run.

Cheers. :)

[old timer]

I wouldn't mind attending a pure self defence seminar nice and central in the Midlands, something you could bring your wife and daughters along to so that they could benefit. I am personally interested in knife defences particulary with the amount of knife attacks in the press recently. Perhaps Pat could do a knife awareness day with some stick thrown in because....... we like sticks.

[YODA]

I reckon it's about time we had us a MAP meet somewhere in central England. The best timing for me would be about May.

[Anth]

There was BruMAP being planned for Birmingham, but nowt came of it. I was actually going to get to that one too. I think Brummieland was chosen because its easy for most people to get to, not too far from anyone. Always ScotMAP for the northerners though :)

[YODA]

There was BruMAP being planned for Birmingham, but nowt came of it. I was actually going to get to that one too. I think Brummieland was chosen because its easy for most people to get to, not too far from anyone. Always ScotMAP for the northerners though :)
Manchester is good :D

[JohnnyX]

I reckon it's about time we had us a MAP meet somewhere in central England. The best timing for me would be about May.

YAY! That's YODA on the organising committee then. :D

[YODA]

So...

1. A UK MAP Meet. The whole UK.
2. Manchester is central to the whole UK :D
3. Sugden Sports Centre is good - where Levo holds the SFUK Open Mat.
4. Late May - Maybe Sat 21st?
5. Proceeds to charity

[JohnnyX]

So...

1. A UK MAP Meet. The whole UK.
2. Manchester is central to the whole UK :D
3. Sugden Sports Centre is good - where Levo holds the SFUK Open Mat.
4. Late May - Maybe Sat 21st?
5. Proceeds to charity

Sorted! :D

[Anth]

*Starts looking for transport* :D

[old timer]

Manchester is excellent, I'll have two tickets please. If its open to anyone I have a few mates involved in different martial arts who may be also be interested in coming along.

A suggestion if I may, decide on how many people you can accomodate in the venue, try to find half a dozen instructors and split the day into groups rather than 1 instructor for the entire class and keep rotating the groups, see what I mean, we use to do that at Wado Ryu seminars with the day been split into katas, nunchaku, fight techniques.

Any suggestions on what arts we could practice, I would love to learn a little stick work from Pat or Yoda.

[JohnnyX]

So...

3. Sugden Sports Centre is good - where Levo holds the SFUK Open Mat.


That's also where all the guys in this thread hang out. :eek:

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24212

[morphus]

I'm in for a Manchester meet. Book the venue & we can start sending money or will it be pay on the day?

[cj256]

like you say we all train there anyways so thats more than easy to get to :D count me in !!!

[GojuKJoe]

i'd definately like to try and get there too

[WhiteWizard]

I'm getting a flight this time :D :D :D

[YODA]

like you say we all train there anyways so thats more than easy to get to :D count me in !!!
Most excellent - can you guys make enquiries about the availablity on that date and costs involved for hire?

[GojuKJoe]

will it be a pay on the day thing?

[Visage]

Hmmm, sounds great :D

(Starts trying to flag down transport on the motorway, before realising its the thumb you stick out to drivers, not your middle finger) :rolleyes:

[YODA]

will it be a pay on the day thing?
It's very much ealy days yet to sort out details like that. I'd personally prefer to sell tickets in advance - that way if people don't show the organisers don't get lumbered with a bill :eek:

[Anth]

Joe - just checked Arriva. Durham to Manchester around £45 return, so say around £50-£55 when its booking time :)

EDIT: just another thing. Would this one be called MancMAP? :D

[GojuKJoe]

Joe - just checked Arriva. Durham to Manchester around £45 return, so say around £50-£55 when its booking time :)

EDIT: just another thing. Would this one be called MancMAP? :D

not bad, how long do these things usually last?

[YODA]

EDIT: just another thing. Would this one be called MancMAP? :D
Nope - this is MAP-UK 2005 :D

[YODA]

not bad, how long do these things usually last?
Probably about 5 or 6 hours.

[Anth]

Ok, if this is going to be a Charity thing, which charity would we be donating any cash to (if we cover the costs of the hall etc)? Yes, I have just read the MAP meet guidelines ;) :)

[YODA]

Dunno yet. I'm open to suggestions.

[Anth]

Next year is a Comic Relief year (Red-Nose-day year), so possibly Comic Relief, or theres always the RNLI (who I always give cash too, being founded after something that happened round here) :)

[gedhab]

how about give it to support the displaced peoples of Darfur in western Sudan? :)

[YODA]

how about give it to support the displaced peoples of Darfur in western Sudan? :)
I'd rather do some good locally - UK based at least.

Children in Need?
Childline?
Marie Curie Cancer Care?
British Heart Foundation?
Beer-4-Yoda appeal?

[gedhab]

I'd rather do some good locally - UK based at least.

Children in Need?
Childline?
Marie Curie Cancer Care?
British Heart Foundation?
Beer-4-Yoda appeal?

well the obvious deserved party is the "beer-for-yoda appeal" :rolleyes:

i dont know which is a bigger predicament...the ethnic clensing of countless numbers of darfurians or the charities you mentioned? ;)

[Anth]

I'd rather do some good locally - UK based at least. Thats why I like my choices :) The RNLI have had quite a bit of work looking for some fishermen lately that went missing. No sign of them, only some oil and fishing bait on the surface. They were out all day for 3 days (I watched the boats and helicopters), and they are all volunteers.

[JohnnyX]

Who's the Official MAP Mentor for this meeting then?

Cheers. :)

[cj256]

i will definately look into that yoda asap just to get some idea of availability etc costs blah blah blah
;)
also as far as charities go it would have to be cancer research uk as it has saved my life once already and is currently doing so again!!



nice idea i reckon!! :)

[Anth]

Johnny> I think it is THE BOSS ;) :D

[JohnnyX]

Johnny> I think it is THE BOSS ;) :D

Does he know? :D :eek: :D

[Anth]

Does he know? :D :eek: :D
He does now :p :D:D

[YODA]

He does now :p :D:D
Errrr... Ok then :D

[Yukimushu]

Beer-4-Yoda appeal?

Soon as I get my college grant, i've got a few quid for that appeal :D

[Levo]

I'm up for it.

Someone get it sorted.

Nathan

[GojuKJoe]

I like the RNLI idea, because like Gaskell said, they are volunteers, and are often risking their own safety for others, a worthy cause i'd say. I also think cancer research would be a good one too.

[iamraisen]

how about give it to support the displaced peoples of Darfur in western Sudan? :)

while its an extremely worthy cause, the politcal situation out there is still unresolved and thus aid is not being given where it is needed- corruption is still too high. money could be better spent on other charites until itis possible to get aid where it belongs.

however on a lighter note- count me in :D manchester is so convenient for me so i dont really have an excuse not to.

[old timer]

In Stoke on Trent there is an Hospice called the Donna Louise Trust which caters for teminally ill children, now a place like that is a worthy cause, but whats to say that there wont be enough money available to give to several charaties.

[YODA]

Another good suggestion.

I think if should be a children's charity. I also think it should either be a national one - or if local then local to the venue as we will get more support from the media that way.

I'll probably just play the dictatorial role here and choose one myself :D

[Anth]

Hold on a sec. Just summat I thought of earlier. How about the British Heart Foundation (or whatever they are called)? :)

I know it isnt a bairns charity, but I thought of it before YODA's last post.

[Pat OMalley]

OK, it looks as though the venue and some kind of date seems to have been favoured, and roughly where the proceeds go, but now who do you think should teach and how many teachers should there be.

I favour a 2 day event, that way you can get access to a lot of different instruction over the whole weekend, plus it would give us all and excuse to get beered up on the Saturday:D .

Some arts I think should definitely be covered such as.

Karate,
Kung Fu
Wing Chun
FMA
JKD
MMA
BJJ
TKD and more, this way everyone can see a wide veriaty of arts, and maybe some they have never seen before.

Not only that, I'm looking for an excuse to try to con Yoda in to bying me a Beer:D

regards

Pat

[Anth]

A two-dayer would push the costs up a bit for me, needing somewhere to crash, beer cash (thats fun being a geordie), and I dont know about train-fares for returning the next day.

I have thought about a possible problem at my end. Our club has a competition around that time, so I will have to speak to Sensei to find out if we have a hall booked yet. I will get back to you about it on Tuesday (training Monday night).

As for the training, got 2 karatekas planning on going, myself and Johnny. I should be able to work summat out before then (got plenty of time to test stuff on the other club). Dont know if there might be any insurance problems with any weapons-work that might happen. Anyone know?

[NRees]

Hehe lol. If this event does take place in May, then I might be able to instruct some Taekwon-Do because my instructors course is scheduled for March, and I turn 18 in April so then I'll befully qualified. Thats if you seniors (*cough* old guys :P ) will have such a young kid teach you. But then again, I'm sure you'll find someone with tons more experience than myself.

Hoping to make it up there for this meet, should be able to drive by then :)

[YODA]

Hi Pat

I think a 1 day event is better as people will be travelling from all over - also the hosting costs for two days compared to what we can charge for admission are better suited to a single day I feel.

As for what gets taught - I reckon with 5 months to plan it we can take our time with that one. Personally I'd rather see fewer arts and more depth. Maybe 2 areas on the go at once with 75min slots. That means we could have two groups each getting a session with 4 instructors. Assuming you & I are teaching - we just need two others. Another option is to double the number of arts on offer but have each one taught once so people will need to specify a preference as to which 4 from the 8 they would prefer to see.

Volunteers to teach by PM please :D

I'm only an hour away - I'll buy you a beer whenever you like mate :D

[Ad McG]

haha, dream thread! I saw the title and I thought "hmmm, must go on and suggest Manchester", but it seems like it's already decided!

I would also favour the fewer arts and more depth approach over 1 day. 2 days is just too much for a lot of people who are travelling and/or don't have much money. Obviously as a MAP meet there are going to be people from different arts around so maybe there should be more than 4 instructors?

Personally, having bought the videos I would love to see some intruction from Levo as well as Dave and Pat, hint hint :D

Side note: I would gladly take out anyone on the town in the evening if they wanted :D Beeeer time!

My charity vote goes to Children in Need.

[Visage]

Maybe 2 areas on the go at once with 75min slots.

Just a thought, if its going to be narrowed down to a couple of arts, why not make one a stand up art, and one a groundwork/grappling style?

Just an idea....

[Freeform]

There is usually a cross training day at Heriot Watt University in Edinburgh in Feb where instructors from MAP will provide training in a variety of MAs.

There is? News to me ;)

HWU X-training weekend is a seperate entity to MAP meets, although anyone is welcome to attend :D And yes, I'm planning one even as we speak :p As we as a ScotMAP meet :eek:

[Jang Bong]

As long as this thread doesn't fall apart (like another one I was following) then count me in...

Gask (and others) - I'm driving a Zafira at the moment, so options are open to fill it with people and equipment. :)

Would like to see some weapons work on the go somewhere - but with all the arts you lot get up to I could spend a week borrowing ideas from you. :D

[I'll keep my eye on the Scottish one as well - the distances arn't too different going North or South]

[Levo]

Make it a one day event.

If I'm not busy and anyone is interested I'd teach.

Nathan

[Ghost Frog]

If I'm not busy and anyone is interested I'd teach.I'm interested. :D

[Anth]

As long as this thread doesn't fall apart (like another one I was following) then count me in...

Gask (and others) - I'm driving a Zafira at the moment, so options are open to fill it with people and equipment. :)

Would like to see some weapons work on the go somewhere - but with all the arts you lot get up to I could spend a week borrowing ideas from you. :D

[I'll keep my eye on the Scottish one as well - the distances arn't too different going North or South]
Cheers for the offer mate :)

At the moment, I reckon its too early to start planning transport, at least until the train timetables come out for the time, and theres still the possibility of me having to choose between MAP meet or PMAC competition. I will check the latter tonight though, see if anything has been planned yet.

[GojuKJoe]

I definately plan on going to this. As for arts being taught, I have no preference, except I wouldn't mind doing some grappling with some BJJ people to see how I'd do :D. Is anyone else from Newcastle going?

[Anth]

Joe - Jang Bong is from that way ;)

[Pat OMalley]

One day, two day, all the same to me, I think if we can get some instructors lined up and a date set asap, then we could push it to be a big event,

As they say, the more notice people have, the more people you tend to get.

Maybe two instructors up at the same time for an hour, rotate the groups, then put another two instructors up and rotate again, this way everyone gets to see and train with every one.;)

Regards


Pat

[Jang Bong]

Joe - Jang Bong is from that way ;)

Way too early for 'plans', but I was thinking of Joe under the 'and others' - it saved naming the few guys who could make an easier jump to here (or I would pass along the way to Manchester). :)

[YODA]

One day, two day, all the same to me, I think if we can get some instructors lined up and a date set asap, then we could push it to be a big event,

Pat
Once I hear back about the availability and price we can sort out a date.

[JohnnyX]

...... and theres still the possibility of me having to choose between MAP meet or PMAC competition ......

:eek:

:confused:

:D

[Ad McG]

Make it a one day event.

If I'm not busy and anyone is interested I'd teach.

Nathan


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/positive3.jpg

:D :Angel: :D

[JohnnyX]

Just a silly thought.

What about somebody taking some free weights and giving us a session on a good workout/tips/etc and maybe incorporate some of these 'full body workout' exercises that I keep hearing about on the Forum as one of the topics?

Then again, it might just be a silly thought.

Cheers. :)

[GojuKJoe]

Just a silly thought.

What about somebody taking some free weights and giving us a session on a good workout/tips/etc and maybe incorporate some of these 'full body workout' exercises that I keep hearing about on the Forum as one of the topics?

Then again, it might just be a silly thought.

Cheers. :)

That sounds good to me

[Anth]

That sounds good to me
And to me :)

[cj256]

i'm gonna go in the sugden centre later this afternoon and inquire about prices/availability etc what size room are we talking about though?
roughly how many people are we lookin to have at this event in manchester?

[Taliar]

Me and Funky Monk will be there. Interested in doing some grappling and stick work if possible.

[Ad McG]

Just a silly thought.

What about somebody taking some free weights and giving us a session on a good workout/tips/etc and maybe incorporate some of these 'full body workout' exercises that I keep hearing about on the Forum as one of the topics?

Then again, it might just be a silly thought.

Cheers. :)


Good idea, but remember it is a martial arts gathering! I suppose there could be a lot of people interested, there's always a lot of questions about this sort of thing on H+F forum. Maybe I could even bring down a nice olympic set and somebody could give some decent instruction on lifting technique for basic compounds, or even on doing proper bodyweight exercises? Who knows. I'm not a qualified instructor so somebody else would probably have to take the reins if it was to happen, but I could be at hand to give advice. I think most people would rather see some more MA instruction that they don't have access to, anyone can pay a little money and get a trainer to show them half-decent technique in a gym.

Things I would most like to see:

Weapons from Yoda and Pat O'Malley
Grappling from Levo or Yoda
Clinch work
Takedowns/takedown defense

I don't think the style really matters. So long as the instruction is effectve, who is going to care? People put too much emphasis on styles at events like this, more should be on the actual techniques.

[GojuKJoe]

I agree with Adam, I don't think styles really matter at these seminar style events, it's just a group of martial artists learning from eachother, that's the whole point. Personally I'd like to do weapons and grappling mostly.

[Scotty Dog]

any word on a date yet ??

[YODA]

any word on a date yet ??
Still waiting to hear about price & availablity from the resident Ninjas :D

[cj256]

hi there yoda ive spoken to the manager at sugden i will pm you the details
cheers :)

[YODA]

hi there yoda ive spoken to the manager at sugden i will pm you the details
cheers :)
It's looking good! I'll give him a call after Xmas and set up a definate date.

I'm looking at Saturday 28th May.

[Anth]

That date should be ok for me :)

Parents will probably be out all day then, leaving me sat on my rear all day.

A MAP meet should be a good way to break up the monotony :D

[cj256]

good to c the ball rolling on that 1 then, should be good that meet!!!! :)
loads of decent rooms at the sugden too !!!
sweet as a nut :)

[JohnnyX]

It's looking good! I'll give him a call after Xmas and set up a definate date.

I'm looking at Saturday 28th May.

Just as a note: That's Spring Bank Holiday weekend.

[YODA]

Just as a note: That's Spring Bank Holiday weekend.
Is that good or bad?

[JohnnyX]

Is that good or bad?

I was just thinking out loud for those people that usually go away for the Spring Bank Weekend.

It's usually quite popular because it's the first Bank Holiday of the year with a bit of decent weather.

Although, do we ever get any Bank Holidays in the UK with any decent weather. :woo:

:D

Cheers. :)

[Pat OMalley]

It's looking good! I'll give him a call after Xmas and set up a definate date.

I'm looking at Saturday 28th May.
Cant do it mate:cry: , got a camp on that weekend, plus Diony Canete is comming over and doing a seminar around May 14th, so looks as though May is out for me. Sorry guys

regards

Pat

[JohnnyX]

Arrrrrggggghhhhh! :(

[YODA]

Ok - how's 2nd Saturday in June Pat?

June 11th?

[Pat OMalley]

As far as I know, that one is clear so sounds good to me if thats ok with you guys.


Regards

Pat

[tel]

i'll be up for the seminar in june.(also to pat o malley) see you are teaching at seni 05,we be there,looking forward to seminar

[Pat OMalley]

it's only 45 minutes long I am affraid but I will try to pack as much as I can in the short time they have allocated me. But it is Free which is good.

I will be taking part in the stick tourny as well and doing some demo's over the 2 days and you can find me on my wife's stand to chat too.

Look forward to seeing you there


Pat

[old timer]

Pat, How do we get hold of tickets to train with you? I have never been to the SENI shows before, do they normally have special offers on equipment etc on the day.

[Pat OMalley]

Pat, How do we get hold of tickets to train with you? I have never been to the SENI shows before, do they normally have special offers on equipment etc on the day.Hi old timer,
Log on to this site for more information www.senishow.com (http://www.senishow.com) I know Krishna Godhania is teaching on the Saturday and I am teaching on the Sunday and we are both organising the Stick tourny thing, we may even have an exhibition bout:D . The cost for the tickest is £7.50 for one day and £12.00 for the 2 days, there are free seminars and demos on all the time through out the 2 days, plus their are lots of martial arts companies and organisations exhibiting at the show. I is one hell of a big event and well worth a visit.
You also get to meet people you would not normally get a chance to.
And if you get the chance go see the Gatka (spelling??) guys performing, they are awsome.
Some of the stands have special offers on some don't (tight fisted ***) I know my wife sells everything at trade and if you talk nicley to her she will always be open to a deal;) Dont tell her I told you though.

Regards

Pat

[Pog]

Manchesters good for me too - happy to instruct or participate (or both)

[awakened nature]

Side note: I would gladly take out anyone on the town in the evening if they wanted :D Beeeer time!


I second that with a raised glass. a night out with a group of drunken martial artists, what could go wrong?

(would hate to be a person who picks a fight with that group :eek: )

[Jang Bong]

(would hate to be a person who picks a fight with that group :eek: )

Why??? We would simply walk away! ;)

(Images of Jackie Chan - hands up in surrender - "Really guys - I don't want any trouble - Ooops!")

[awakened nature]

Why??? We would simply walk away! ;)


Yes, errr, *cough* thats what I meant, I'd hate to be that person because, errr, they would be so overwhelmed with...non-aggressive compliance..... :)

[Scotty Dog]

So is June 11th still looking good ???

[YODA]

Aye.

[Sgt_Major]

In ToonLand??

[YODA]

In ToonLand??

No - in Manchester.

[Sgt_Major]

Saturday 11th June. Manchester. OK.

[Anth]

SP - No ToonMAP getting planned.

Joe and I had a little discussion in Chat about a possibility, but nowt was set, nowt agreed on. I think theres going to be plenty of MAP meets this year without one in Geordieland.

[GojuKJoe]

SP - No ToonMAP getting planned.

Joe and I had a little discussion in Chat about a possibility, but nowt was set, nowt agreed on. I think theres going to be plenty of MAP meets this year without one in Geordieland.

I didn't really mean an official MAPmeet, I just thought it might be fun if a few of us from the area trained together sometime, nothing too structured, just to do a bit training and meet some members from here.

[Anth]

I know :)

[SunTzu]

I'd come to Manchester, probably with a friend too. Keep me informed :)

[old timer]

As any thought been given on how the day is to be structured yet in the way of what styles will be taught on the day and will people attending be able to stick with a couple of styles of their choice or will every one have to do every style available there on the day.

[YODA]

Too early to say yet. We haven't settled on a definate day yet - we may have to move to early July!

[Chris Yates]

I would be up for it, let us know how much it costs when you find out :D

[Alexander]

Work or Uni permitting, I'm in! :)

I'll just watch this space...

[Sgt_Major]

Im saying aye to this one! And woe betide any 'cats' that get in my way this time! :woo: :woo:

[judojedi]

i'll be in aswell, provided i'm not working that day. i think i can commit judoboxer aswell.

[leo]

if there is no real reason why i cant go im definately comeing. I presume we will be able to spar aswell right not just pad work, fitness and techniques.

[Anth]

Exam timetables are in, so I cant say for definate that I will be able to make it (A2 exams are in June). Almost as soon as the exams are finished, I will be off out of the country on holls (if we can). grrrrrr exams :woo:

[JohnnyX]

Too early to say yet. We haven't settled on a definate day yet - we may have to move to early July!

I thought it was June 11th.

[YODA]

I thought it was June 11th.

I know you did.

[Sonshu]

Sounds great all and I will be sure to attend. Anyone know what the format will be and who is demonstrating what?

Thanks

[judojedi]

what sort of cost is likely for this momentus occassion?
and how long is it likely to last for?
is it planned for there to be a grappling mat for a few contests?
and will it be a trackies and t-shirt sort of thing or gi's?

not that any of these things matter, i'll still attend if i'm not working, just wanna know. cheers.

[YODA]

what sort of cost is likely for this momentus occassion?

It depends mainly on venue hire costs. We trying to MAKE money for charity here so it will not be kept to a minimum :D I'd envisage£15-£20 per person but that's just at guess at the moment.

and how long is it likely to last for?

I'm hoping for 5-6 hours

is it planned for there to be a grappling mat for a few contests?

It depends on insurance limitations that the venue - they certainly have MANY mats available.


and will it be a trackies and t-shirt sort of thing or gi's?

Whatever floats your boat - come in a TuTu if you like :D

[Sgt_Major]

*runs off to find his sparkly leotard*

:D

[YODA]

*runs off to find his sparkly leotard*

:D

It's under the bed next to the para boots and furry handcuffs :D

[Melanie]

depending on work and where ever that is..I'll be there - about time I got thumped by other MAP Mods

[Sgt_Major]

It's under the bed next to the para boots and furry handcuffs :D

CHEERS mate! Ive been looking for that for ages! Must have been distracted by the boots and cuffs every time..... :p

[Sgt_Major]

depending on work and where ever that is..I'll be there - about time I got thumped by other MAP Mods

Only the mods? Do we not get a shot? :cool:

[Pat OMalley]

Im saying aye to this one! And woe betide any 'cats' that get in my way this time! :woo: :woo:

Meow;)

[Ad McG]

This could be really, really sweet :D

[Sgt_Major]

Meow;)

Do I smell a CAT? I could do with some fresh ferret food! *fetches his xBow and ferrets and goes cat-huntin*


:D

[Alex_JHH]

I'm not so sure about June, depends on exams, same with Gaskell I think. Not sure about other members. As much as I'd like, I'm not sacrificing my A levels for a MA seminar :D

[Pat OMalley]

Do I smell a CAT? I could do with some fresh ferret food! *fetches his xBow and ferrets and goes cat-huntin*


:D Ferret's huh, *sharpen's his claws* must be big ferrets to frighten a Lion:D Roooooarrrrrrrr!

[Sgt_Major]

Size doesnt matter, its what you do with it! :p :D

[Pat OMalley]

Size doesnt matter, its what you do with it! :p :D
Oh yeah, who said that then, they guy with the little one;)

I've got a bigger one than you:p :D :woo:

[JohnnyX]

OK, it's already the month of March. :eek:

What's the latest plan?

Cheers.

[YODA]

OK, it's already the month of March. :eek:

What's the latest plan?

Cheers.

Sorry - FAR too busy to even think about this right now.

If anyone else wants to take on the role of organising this - now would be a good time to yell.

[Sonshu]

I will do it as I was part way through doing it and it seems my reason for not moving forward with it last time is not about - love to!

All thoes who were wanting to teach or are interested in showing (provided people are ok with me taking up the mantle) PM or post here!

If someone else wants to do it ok with me by the way just offering my services.

[Sgt_Major]

I'd be looking to go, but cant really help organise. Having to book flights etc, the sooner I know dates the cheaper travel is is all I need to say.

:D

YODA: Will you be too busy to attend?

[old timer]

I think the first stage would be to find out who was available to teach first of all, I would be particulary interested to attend if there was a bias towards FMA's.

[YODA]

I'm still available to teach.

No offence to Sonshu - but if this is going to take place in Manchester I'd rather someone a little closer take this under their wing.

[Ad McG]

I would take it on but I'm far too busy as well. My third year project is currently taking a ton of time, and I've got finals to work hard for. Sorry chaps! There's plenty of other people in Manchester who come here so hopefully someone else can pick it up. I hope it doesn't all fall through, it should be a great event!

[Sonshu]

No problems Yoda.

I was planning to keep it in Manchester but if no one else takes it up I am happy to source and inlist some help of local people to see it happens as if someone does not take it up pretty soon like many of these things it will die a death.

Would be a good thing to set up.

[Pat OMalley]

Hi all,
If you can make it the 4th of June I'm up for teaching as the rest of june I am busy. if not the 2nd weekend in July would be good.

Let me know as I am sure I can get a few of my lads and lassies to attend. Should be fun.

Regards

Pat

[JohnnyX]

I would say that it needs to be before July.

' UK Summer Holiday Season' may restrict peoples' attendance.

[Ad McG]

Please let it not be on the weekend of one of my finals!

[Sgt_Major]

hmmmm....4th of June you say Pat?

*runs off to check flight prices*

[Sonshu]

I can make it and will if people want do some teaching.

Main thing we need to do is get some idea of who is gonna run it to ensure it happens as it would be a shame for it not to happen as the forum has come a long way since I joined a few years ago.

[Pat OMalley]

Well as I said before I'll teach and I am sure Yoda said he would too, and I am pretty sure I can convince the wife to teach as well.

Just waiting for a confirmed date and venue is all.

Got a few of my guys interested in training too.

So come guys, who's doing the organising thing then.

regards

Pat

[Ad McG]

God damn, if Yoda, Pat, his wife and Levo were all gonna teach I would LOVE to organise this event! Bloody uni, gets in the way of everything! :cry: If it wasn't so important, I would pick it up in a flash. There must be SOMEONE from Manchester willing to organise it?!? Ninjitsu guys at all? Anyone from SBG? ANYONE?!?

[old timer]

God damn, if Yoda, Pat, his wife and Levo were all gonna teach I would LOVE to organise this event! Bloody uni, gets in the way of everything!If everything else fails, about ............ a FMA's based event, that would be cool and a way to introduce more people to the FMA's, after practising Kali for 6 months now I still feel cheated that I was not introduced to it years ago, ........what have I been missing!

[Sonshu]

There is no need for a FMA event to be a MAP event as such. I think the plan was for a big group of different arts to be attending so everyone can see a bit of everything.

That will appeal to more numbers I guess. MODS could you perhaps PM all the people in or near Manchester and see if anyone will take the banner up?

Just a thought

[Ad McG]

Probably a good idea ^^ :D

If all the people who have offered to teach will be teaching, I would think that FMAs and grappling will at least be covered, so it's upto whoever else wants to do it. It would be a great shame if this didn't happen :cry:

[old timer]

Melanie doesn't mess about, she's booked her venue, well done Mel.

[Sonshu]

Not sure I am being thick here (I think I might be)

Has Mel booked the venue for the Manchester one or just the southern one on another thread. OR is the Southern one now taking over from the Manchester one?

:confused:

[JohnnyX]

Has Mel booked the venue for the Manchester one or just the southern one on another thread. OR is the Southern one now taking over from the Manchester one?

No, Yes, No. No.

:)

[YODA]

That's 4 answers to 3 questions :D

[Sonshu]

Thanks guys - cleared that up!

[GojuKJoe]

So what's going on with this thing? Is it on or off? If it's on, where is it?

[Pat OMalley]

Well if you guys cant do Manchester (45 minute drive from Manchester), I am willing to find somewhere in Yorkshire. Let me know what you think??

I'm sure I can convince Paul Smith to do some WC on the event too.:cool:

Regards

Pat

[YODA]

Go for it Pat!

[Melanie]

Excellant - Go for it - but don't nab anyone I want - ok :D

[Pat OMalley]

OK I'm on the case, any suggestions as to the charity we can donate the proceeds too.

Regards

Pat

[Melanie]

OK I'm on the case, any suggestions as to the charity we can donate the proceeds too.

Regards

Pat


Well my motivation is I lost my Nan to Cancer - some of the instructors have lost family to cancer too. Hence why I selected Cancer Research UK - but there are lots of deserving charities who could do with every penny. I wanted something local though - as the Tsunami and Red Nose Day have benefitted many charities and quite a few overseas (I know RND has also provided locally!) - Thats why I picked them. :)

[Sgt_Major]

Is there an airport near Yorkshire?

[Ad McG]

Is there an airport near Yorkshire?

Manchester! You will be able to train it from there to wherever it is I would have thought.

[Pat OMalley]

Is there an airport near Yorkshire?Leeds/Bradford Airport, just 20 min's from me and flys to Belfast every day I am told.

[Pat OMalley]

Well my motivation is I lost my Nan to Cancer - some of the instructors have lost family to cancer too. Hence why I selected Cancer Research UK - but there are lots of deserving charities who could do with every penny. I wanted something local though - as the Tsunami and Red Nose Day have benefitted many charities and quite a few overseas (I know RND has also provided locally!) - Thats why I picked them. :)I lost my mother to cancer too, but I was thinking maybe a local Child Hospice, as I think they can do with all the help they can get. But good ideas. too many good causes not enough time is the problem.

regards

Pat

[Ad McG]

Hmmm, I said Manchester airport because I thought you said Lancs, not Yorks! haha. So long as it is somewhere around the NW then I'm sure I will be able to make it. Manchester would have been great though, plus I could have taken out all and sundry on an evening out in Manchester! DAMN UNI! :woo:

[Sgt_Major]

Leeds/Bradford Airport, just 20 min's from me and flys to Belfast every day I am told.

Cheers Pat, Ill look up prices later :D

[Sgt_Major]

And the Fare hits in at .......ddadadadadadadadadadadaddadadaaaaaaa


£70 for flights only.


Bugger!

[old timer]

And the Fare hits in at .......ddadadadadadadadadadadaddadadaaaaaaa


£70 for flights only.


Bugger!Is the ferry any cheaper as a foot passenger? and have you looked if anyone from the Liverpool area is coming? that way you may be able to scrounge a lift.

[Sgt_Major]

scouse a lift was that? ;)

[Jang Bong]

scouse a lift was that? ;)

I see those 'Tact and Diplomacy' lessons are paying off :D :p

[Sgt_Major]

Worth every penny I paid for them! ;) :p

[JohnG]

Is this thing gonna happen? I see there's one down south, but are we gonna have a North of England event?

I can arrange a venue in Manchester, well Rochdale, but it's near enough!

The place where I teach classes is usually empty on a Sunday from 12:00. I have gradings and guest Instructors do seminars for my own students there all the time, and you can get loads of people in there. Plenty of parking, showers etc

If the Manchester MAP meet is going to go ahead, I can arrange the venue. It'll cost £170 for 5 hours for the hall, and I'm pretty sure that even if students only from my club turned up , I could pay for the hall.

May, June, July, whenever. It should be no problem. Give me a date, how long for, a list of people who are going to teach (I don't want to turn up to 100 people and be the only Instructor!) and I'll do it.

Willing Instructors and potential participants email me at:
wtf.taekwondo@ntlworld.com

Or should I just heed Jim Morrisons advice to Wayne in Wayne's World 2
"Book it, they will come"

[Pat OMalley]

Is this thing gonna happen? I see there's one down south, but are we gonna have a North of England event?

I can arrange a venue in Manchester, well Rochdale, but it's near enough!

Well I am all for you arranging it, the only Sunday in June I can do it the 26th or the only other date in June I can do is Saturday the, either that or the middle of July.

I am up for teaching any of those dates.

regards


Pat

[YODA]

Middle of July works for me :D

£170 for 5 hours is expensive!!! £34 an hour!

No chance of a reduction as it's for charity?

[Anth]

Better than the middle of exam season :)

I still dont know if/when we are going on holls this year, and there might be the small matter of Army stuff to do.

So at the mo, count me in :)

[JohnG]

£170 for 5 hours, but you could fit 70 people in there. The hall has 5 badminton courts in there.

How does Sunday July 17th sound?

As soon as I get at least 5 people commiting to teaching, i will book it.

So far 1.

[GojuKJoe]

I'll most likely be going (to participate, not to teach), the middle would be great for me too.

[JohnG]

YODA

I've sent you a PM outlining the how I would run the event should it take place. Can you get back to me to let me know if I should go ahead.

It would take place only a few weeks after the Southern meet, so should we just put in on hold for a couple of months?

[YODA]

Looks good John.

I think we should schedule it not not clash with the Southern meet though - Maybe August?

[Melanie]

I agree - Yoda would be gutted if he couldn't make it to two Meets :D

[Ad McG]

Sounds great to me. I'm free virtually all summer, so it doesn't bother me as long as I don't book a holiday then some monkey confirms the date as being the day I go away or something! :D

[JohnG]

Looks good John.

I think we should schedule it not not clash with the Southern meet though - Maybe August?

I am at the sports centre tonight. I will see about a Sunday in August. The 28th is Bank Holiday weekend, so how about the 14th?

[JohnG]

I've provisionaly booked Sunday 14th August from 12:00 to 16:30. The sports hall is currently free all day, so we can have as long as we want.

Because the event will be for charity, they have let me book it at a cheaper rate. Bonus!

I will need to confirm the booking on Monday evening, so if there are any willing Instructors out there, PM or email me as soon as possible.

When we have a line up I post it on here.

See you there!

[Pat OMalley]

I'm free to teach on the 14th of August and it is just a couple of day's after my birthday, so 2 excuses to go to the bar.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

But let me know as soon as you bok it so I can make sure I don't schedual anything else in. I am sure if Paul Smith is free that week end I can sweet talk him into teaching Wing Chun;)

Best regards

Pat

[Ad McG]

... excuses to go to the bar.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


My thoughts exactly Pat :D

[Scotty Dog]

The 28th is Bank Holiday weekend, so how about the 14th?

ARRRRRGGGGGGG, why always the week before payday :(

the credit card will be burning in August I think :P

[robertmap]

Hi,

Since I'm based in Luton the Northern Meet would be good for me too.

I'm happy to teach if you like, either the same (well similar) to the One Finger Fighting (O.F.F) that I will teach at the South of England Meet. Or something completely different like the eight move Tai Chi - That's me being all new age and cuddly - as opposed to a real Bad A** with the O.F.F. :) :) :)

All the best.

Robert.

[JohnG]

Ok everybody, it's on!

Sunday 14th August 2005 in sunny Rochdale. The session will be for 4 hours, but that is likely to increase to 5 as we confirm more instructors. Full details will be posted on MAP in the next week or so.

If you want to participate, or you are willing to teach at the event, get in touch.

And suggestions for the charity to benefit aswell please.

[YODA]

Get in touch here at MAP - we don't encourage outside contact.

[judojedi]

whats the name and address of the sports centre?
i'm putting it in my diary now.

[JohnG]

Sports Hall
Matthew Moss High School
Matthew Moss Lane
Rochdale
OL11 3LU

Full details and instructor list to follow

[judojedi]

right, checked my shift patern. will be able to attened. Judoboxer will be comming aswell.
i reckon we should invite local MA clubs to come, it will encourage them to then go on and join MAP. PLUS they'll pay to attend.

[Ad McG]

Sounds cool beans to me! :D

[batfink]

Is this for all levels of experience then? I've been training 'bout 1.5 years. Only just found this thread, glad I didn't miss it completely...

[reydominguez]

You are right my friend,,, its the the actual techniques that matters...and how effective it was even in the simpliest way it will be done.

[GojuKJoe]

You are right my friend,,, its the the actual techniques that matters...and how effective it was even in the simpliest way it will be done.

What?

[GojuKJoe]

So what's going on with this meet now then? Is anyone going?

[JohnnyX]

Rochdale - 15 minutes from me.

Now that sounds like a plan. :eek:

[Shark-Proof]

Arrghh.... how can you plan a Map-meet in my hometown and not tell me?!! lol

I'll be there! If you need any info on the Rochdale area - directions from train station to Matthew Moss etc, just let me know. I used to play rollerhockey at Mucky Moss! :D Maybe a BBQ just outside would be a good idea ;)

If you fancy a Japanese Jujitsu mat, let me know and I can bring a couple of high-dan sensei's... maybe some kobudo weapon work, or demonstrations?

How much is the workshop?


Shark-proof

[Paul Genge]

If you are interested in a look at Systema let me know. I run a club in the Manchester area and live 10 minutes from Rochdale.

For ideas on what subjects are covered within Systema check out the articles and video clips on my site (http://www.russianmartialart.org.uk).

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest

[Pat OMalley]

Well I know I am teaching, so if you can send me directions (comming from Wakefield / Leeds area) I would be gratefull.


Best regards

Pat

[Shark-Proof]

Righto Pat... from Leeds, get onto the M621 westwards and follow it until it becomes the M62.
bomb down this until you reach Exit 20.
Keep left and you'll come to a roundabout
Take the 3rd exit onto the A627(M) and head into Rochdale onto Edinburgh Way

From here you'll see a wacking great B&Q Warehouse in front of you. Take a left and follow the road to a big roundabout. Take the 1st exit past Tesco.

You'll come to another roundabout. Take the 3rd exit onto Bolton Road... you're nearly there.

Go up Bolton Road until you reach a pub called Success To The Plough... There is a park to your right called Springfield park where I spent many an evening 'finding' golf balls and selling them back to the golfers, little scamp. Take a left at the pub and Matthew Moss School is on your right hand side.

Any idea how much the workshop is?

SP

[Shark-Proof]

Who is organising this workshop/meet? Could do with knowing a few details really.

Like I said, I'm more than willing to get a good Japanese Jujitsu demonstration together with some select fighters from my club here in Rochdale but I've only got a couple of months to train so I need to know if it's definately going ahead, and what's happening about mat-space... that's a good point... where's the mats coming from?

Someone please, please post so I can get something together in time.

Thanks

SP

[Paul Genge]

Is the Rochdale meet taking place?

Also what is the instructor line up?

Paul Genge
Russian Martial Arts Northwest (UK) (http://www.russianmartialarts.org.uk)

[JohnnyX]

It's taking place as far as I know. :confused:

Not sure about the Instructor lineup though.

Who's organising?

[nForce]

Pretty late on in the year but thats cool.

So any updates, whos instructing and in which MA? Can we spar? Whats the general plan for the day

And most importantly, how much to us MAP members? and do you do student discounts :)

[Freeform]

Is this still going ahead?

[Sgt_Major]

Is this still going ahead?


if so, can we pick a place somewhere close to a major airport so I can get my ass there....... and the later in the year suits me better, cos injury shouldnt be a problem come end of summer (ish) then I can train with ya's :D :yeleyes:

[nForce]

freeform now its an official MAP meet, fancy moving it somewhere were it will get more attention?

[Freeform]

freeform now its an official MAP meet, fancy moving it somewhere were it will get more attention?

What, like the Offical MAP Meets section? :D

Closer to the time, it'll be put in the latest news section.

[JohnnyX]

if so, can we pick a place somewhere close to a major airport so I can get my ass there.......
Rochdale's local airport is Manchester International. :)

[Pat OMalley]

Don't go changing the dates now, I have had to ask one of my top people in Scotland to move their event to accomodate this event, so August 14th in now set in my Calendar.

Best regards

Pat

[Pat OMalley]

if so, can we pick a place somewhere close to a major airport so I can get my ass there....... and the later in the year suits me better, cos injury shouldnt be a problem come end of summer (ish) then I can train with ya's :D :yeleyes:It is between 2 major airports, Manchester being the closest and Leeds/Bradford being only 45 mins to an hour away.

I don't think the airports would like us training on the runway though;)

Best regards

Pat

[Sgt_Major]

awww! Pat Im sure we could turn up with big sticks and a few sharp implements to 'persuade' them :p

Aug 14th suits me fine......Manchester should be ok for flights too......will price them after lunch

Edit: Any idea as to times? Earlier suits me best to try get a return flight that night for work in the morning.....

[Sgt_Major]

I can get the following for about £40. And stay over on Sat night in a B&B if anyone up for a drinky on Sat night??

flying out:
Sat, 13 Aug 05
09:20 Arrive Manchester (terminal 1) (MAN)

flying back:
Sun, 14 Aug 05
17:40 Depart Manchester (terminal 1) (MAN)


17:40 is the last available bmibaby flight out of Manchester on Sunday tho :'(

[JohnnyX]

Ok everybody, it's on!

Sunday 14th August 2005 in sunny Rochdale. The session will be for 4 hours, but that is likely to increase to 5 as we confirm more instructors. Full details will be posted on MAP in the next week or so.

If you want to participate, or you are willing to teach at the event, get in touch.

And suggestions for the charity to benefit aswell please.
Sports Hall
Matthew Moss High School
Matthew Moss Lane
Rochdale
OL11 3LU

Full details and instructor list to follow

Hi JohnG,

What's the latest?

Cheers.

[JohnnyX]

It's not looking good - I think. :(

[GojuKJoe]

And everyone seemed so enthusiastic at first too.....

[Anth]

Just as well I didnt buy my train ticket for it :rolleyes:

It seems that the Scots can get a meet planned and running, so can Mel, but nobody from the middle of the country :confused: :(

[Pat OMalley]

Right let me have a look around and see if I can find somewhere.

Apart from myself, who is willing to teach??

Best regards

Pat

[robertmap]

Hi Pat,

I'd be happy to do either some simple Tai Chi (The 8 move form) or some 'old fashioned' kick and sweat karate (Although my Karate - being 95% Kyu Shin Ryu - is hardly what one would call 'traditional').

All the best.

Robert.

[tel]

i can teach wing chun/jkd if needed

[Pat OMalley]

Sorry folks, I have looked around for a venue here in the Wakefeild area and it is way too expensive £50 to £75 per hour. So venues here are out.

Anyone else got any ideas about location and venue???

Best regards

Pat

[Dave Humm]

Pat...

What size of venue were you looking at ?

How many people do you expect to attend ?
Just for your information, I have a dedicated dojo www.eastcoastaikikai.co.uk (http://www.eastcoastaikikai.co.uk/) which I would be more than happy to let you guys use for a FRACTION of the cost that you've been quoted however, the size of the venue is a prohibitive factor, just 10mtrs square.

I'm based in Grimsby just an hour or so away from Wakefield, (Durkar) where I lived for 15 or so years whilst in the Armed Forces and later the Prison Service.

If you intend on arranging a MAP meet with limited numbers please do not hesitate to let me know. I've run seminars here with around 20 people with no major problems (all be it a bit crowded)

The cost of the hire would be in the region of £50 for the day for fellow MAP'ers.

Kind regards as always

[Pat OMalley]

TRhanks for the offer Dave but 10 Mtrs sqr is a tad too small, especially if I have sticks flying around you would only get about half a dozen people up at any one time.

Thanks again

Pat