Sparring with Nunchaka's [Archive]

johndoch

16-Apr-2003, 04:59 PM

I guess it is dangerous freeform but i suppose the safest way to use them is by using the foam ones. Ive never really sparred seriously with the nunchaka just me and my mate messing around, but would like to hear opinions on different sparring techniques. When I sparr I usually find that the first target is the opponents weapon hand/arm.

Your right though they're not only for swinging and striking. They're very good for tying people up but you have to be careful as the pressure that can be applied is huge. Also dont forget about the strikes using the butt end of the sticks. I like coming in with a straight butt-end strike followed up by a wrap around the neck. I've got a good book on it but cant remember the author, it was some guy from okinawa i think.

Cain

16-Apr-2003, 05:06 PM

SOrry has hardly to do anything to do with the subject but I have a set of plastic nun chakus I had taken when I wassa kid [I still am ;) ]

I was trying to impersonate Bruce Lee but it cost me a few broken fingernails...and they still hurt, not enough to KO or draw blood but still cause pain...sort of like a whip

|Cain+

Andrew Green

17-Apr-2003, 04:04 AM

Rattan ones with some protection you would probably survive... but be very bruised.

PVC ones with some foam are what we use, they still hurt and leave some bruises, but nothing gets broken and you can do it again the next day.

But we couldn't use real ones if we wanted to, they're illegal here.

There are those soft plastic ones that bend right in half too, We've used those too, they don't hurt at all really, but there bendyness takes away from there usefulness. Good for first time, or for kids to get used to getting hit though.

When sparring the trapping and locking aspects don't come out much, once and a while, but not very often. Mostly they are used for striking.

Cain

17-Apr-2003, 08:42 AM

Good for first time, or for kids to get used to getting hit though.

Andrew, why do I feel that line is directed at me :p

TkdWarrior

17-Apr-2003, 12:56 PM

ok i did some sparring with nunchaku's ... it looks very silly when u hit something n then it bounces off and comes to hit u :D...
but that can be controlled with rite angles(ain't that always true?)...
never used with locking ... but in striking it's baaddddddddddd...
i hav both wood n steel nunchaku's, i can work well with both of them...
anyways it's the only weapon i know :(
-TkdWarrior-

Andrew Green

18-Apr-2003, 06:02 AM

They shouldn't bounce back at you, if they are you need to work on your follow through.

johndoch

18-Apr-2003, 11:06 AM

"They shouldn't bounce back at you, if they are you need to work on your follow through."

They shouldnt but they can and do. You need more practice TKD try to learn to control the nunchaka in both directions. When I say both directions I mean strike and retrieve from various guards/starting positions. Once you got a few of these sorted you should move onto continous movements like figure of 8's, striking at different targets/angles from a continual flow.

Once you feel confident in the nunchaka move onto hitting something. Personally I use the heavy bag for this as I find it absorbs most of the impact and reduces the bounce that was mentioned.

TkdWarrior

19-Apr-2003, 03:11 PM

guys i can control it ...i don't hav any probs with controlling with any of my hand... i hav even sparred with those things :D
but i hav seen it happening when ppl tries to use it...
-TkdWarrior-

Freeform

20-Apr-2003, 09:33 AM

Thnk I'm gonna get me a pair of rubberised ones and try this out :D

Jazman

20-Apr-2003, 07:26 PM

are they actually legal (real ones) in anyone's countries? Sure aren't here!! Me and my bro used to make ones out of pipes, YOUCH!!! used to kill each other... but then again, I also shot him with a homemade bow... :D

Andrew Green

20-Apr-2003, 07:37 PM

Not in canada, but they are in most of the states.

"soft" ones are legal here though.

Freeform

20-Apr-2003, 09:47 PM

We can buy real ones here (Britain), the law I believe is to do with possesion in public.

For example 'I was on my way to training officer' and then producing an MA licence.

As opposed to 'I felt like it officer!'

Col

Seperoth3333

21-Apr-2003, 05:44 AM

I know some one who could kick some @$$ with thoes. He was so in to bruce lee that he decited to take up them up. He could do all kind of crazy Sh** with'em.

Freeform

21-Apr-2003, 11:29 AM

I knew of a guy up in Perth (Scotland) who was excellent with nunchaus, however, on ocassion his flatmates would hear a loud 'thud' from his bedroom.

It seemed he had accidently knocked himself out on more than one occasion :D

Col

tradwarrior

21-Apr-2003, 12:18 PM

Nunchackus was a traditional weapon and is being used in different styles.. Nunchackus is a weapon as a knife or a gun is , but in most situations it can't be used in real life (Eg: you can't hold them with you , everywhere you go) , but nunchackus is fun to learn... Oh and something else , being able to use nunchackus is an art ;))

-Thank you-

Side-kick

16-May-2003, 10:13 PM

How do yo cope with the re-coil of a nunchaku? Do you vary the initial strike angle? Or is the answer elsewhere, someone mentioned follow-through

grandmaster mat

16-May-2003, 10:21 PM

speaking of nunchakus i just baught some wooden 8" ones. just gota learn how to use them:)

Andrew Green

17-May-2003, 01:36 AM

The nunchaku whould be straight when they hit (like a solid stick) apart from that it is all in the follow through.

YODA

17-May-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Side-kick
How do yo cope with the re-coil of a nunchaku? Do you vary the initial strike angle? Or is the answer elsewhere, someone mentioned follow-through

By hitting things with it!

SaiMaster

19-May-2003, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Side-kick
How do yo cope with the re-coil of a nunchaku? Do you vary the initial strike angle? Or is the answer elsewhere, someone mentioned follow-through

You do something we call a deceleration loop. As the nunchaku comes back at you do a controlled swinging loop at your side or over head to bring them back into a control.

GrizzlyAdams

03-Jun-2003, 11:07 AM

Inoue RyuHa practisis all kumite and bukai using foam sets.

make a set out ou plumbing tube pklastic. with nylon cord etc.

put insulating foam over the top. wrap the lot in gaffer tape.

hey presto. you get a nice slap/sting when you make contact - but you wont kill/maim anyone.

Sonshu

06-Jun-2003, 08:39 AM

I like the chucks but they are a worry for strikes as you never really know where the other end is gonna go when you belt someone with em.

It is very good for locks though.

Sparing with em is asking for a lot of pain!

SONSHU

emir45

03-Jul-2003, 06:28 AM

how do you build nunchuaks???
everytime i start building, i get stuck on one part. I cannot figure out how to connect the two pieces of wood and make it stirdy. i would use rope by the way. Can anyone help me please.

Andrew Green

03-Jul-2003, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by emir45
how do you build nunchuaks???
everytime i start building, i get stuck on one part. I cannot figure out how to connect the two pieces of wood and make it stirdy. i would use rope by the way. Can anyone help me please.

Kinda like this:

No knot, just wraps around each other in the indents on the side, There should be 3 cords conecting and two ends sticking out. Kept toegether by friction.

Make sure they are legal where you are before you make them though...

Andrew Green

03-Jul-2003, 07:25 AM

Opps....

Forgot the pic

Andrew Green

03-Jul-2003, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by Sonshu
I like the chucks but they are a worry for strikes as you never really know where the other end is gonna go when you belt someone with em.

Maybe YOU don't know where the end is going to go :D

It is very good for locks though.

Works in theory... not so well in application...

Sparing with em is asking for a lot of pain!

No more then other weapons, you get used to it.

emir45

03-Jul-2003, 03:25 PM

ok, but how wide should the holes be apart. By the way, do i use a drill to make them and how to u cover up the hole after being done so it is not visible and so that it does not look bad

johndoch

03-Jul-2003, 03:33 PM

I would nt worry about how it looks. I would worry more about how it performs.

Jags

03-Jul-2003, 03:43 PM

nunchakus really arent that expensive ya know, i got sum for like a tenner.

and the case was 3quid if u wanna buy him i reccomend
www.martialarts.co.uk
but this is only for UK

emir45

03-Jul-2003, 09:15 PM

hey, i just bought nylon rope and made the nunchauk and it looks sik. It works better and is faster. I coverd up the holes and also used wood paint and painted them. Its easy. Tha hardest part was finding a stick and making them cut the same way because i use a hand saw.

Andrew Green

04-Jul-2003, 04:34 AM

Problem is when the cord starts to fray...

The holes aren't meant to be covered.

Nunchaku

15-Jul-2003, 03:50 PM

Sparring with nunchaku´s is possible with the safety-nunchaku. Check out the website of the World Nunchaku Association (http://www.nunchaku.org) for more information. Check out Nunchaku.com (http://www.nunchaku.com) to order the safety-nunchaku and other products.

http://www.nunchaku.org/pics/knipindex4.jpg

Garma

16-Jul-2003, 03:56 PM

Is there any real effective and practical way to practice striking with the nunchakus? Nothing beats striking real, moving people, but is there any efective way to simulate that?

Do all of you use real ones to practice with or the foam-padded ones? What would you suggest to a rookie at the art? I have both types. I was thinking of bringing them out to show to my friend and have the two of us take turns striking each other with them (the foam ones). Is it a good idea to have the real ones out to show if you are not sure they are legal, and a police officer may be there? I was planning on using the foam one though.

Nunchaku

16-Jul-2003, 07:12 PM

My views on your question:

Simulate striking

Indeed, the best way to learn striking is during sparring. A good alternative to this is using targets with a partner. Your partner has the target and moves around. He/she will give you a signal when to strike the target. You can create all kind of variations of this form yourself. With wooden/iron nunchaku's: be extremely carefull, with those there is no room for error (the general problem of wooden/iron nunchaku's)

Sparring

At the World Nunchaku Association, we only use foam nunchaku's. We also wear protection for head and groin. This is really a must, otherwise you could get seriously hurt.

For a rookie I suggest the foam nunchaku, you can make mistakes and learn, without hurting yourself or others.

I don't know the nunchaku laws in your country, but I suggest never to use nunchaku in public, and only under the supervisision of a trained martial artist.

Good luck!

Andrew Green

16-Jul-2003, 07:19 PM

Start with a heavy bag. Learn to hit and follow through so that you can maintain control first. No benefit in bruising each other up this early.

Garma

16-Jul-2003, 07:22 PM

Thanks guys, I will try these suggestions.

Bobtob

16-Dec-2003, 11:15 PM

i had some idiot friends over one time and my one friend broke a pair of pvc and foam nunchakas over my other friends back.

about an hour later that same friend got stabbed really hard with a sai.

after that i hid all my weapons

YODA

17-Dec-2003, 06:07 AM

One of my guys - MAPer Elhiggito -had been experimenting with nunchaku sparring - the results seem comparable with our full contact stickfighting - lots of ouch :D

dogfighter

18-Jan-2004, 11:10 PM

I fight with double and single nunchaku at dog brothers gatherings with good results. I use lighter weight rattan with chain and ball bearing connection. Although I feel rattan chucks connected with cord would work better if you can find them. You may have to manufacture them yourself as I have not seen them sold this way. In any case both work well. I use the light weight rattan as not to do to much damage to my fellow opponent. You can see one of my fights with Top Dog Eric Knaus (single stick vs double nunchaku) on the new series of Dogbrothers tapes titled A GATHERING OF THE PACK vol. 2. This tape has no instruction just 70 min. of knock down drag out real contact stick fighting. I'm sure one can figure out some of my advanced techniques and many stick techniques by watching this tape. Tapes available through www.dogbrothers.com. X Sticks Ahoy Mates X

Furikuchan

22-Jan-2004, 03:06 PM

Okay, if you want to work on just nunchaku strikes, I know it feels silly, but just take it over to the punching bag! You can safely work on your follow-through and striking angles (especially if you have one of those bags that looks like a human torso.)
Sparring is useful to teach you to use a nunchaku in a combat situation.
How about this: nunchaku vs. bo sparring. Has anyone else done it?

dogfighter

23-Jan-2004, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by Furikuchan
Okay, if you want to work on just nunchaku strikes, I know it feels silly, but just take it over to the punching bag! You can safely work on your follow-through and striking angles (especially if you have one of those bags that looks like a human torso.)
Sparring is useful to teach you to use a nunchaku in a combat situation.
How about this: nunchaku vs. bo sparring. Has anyone else done it? I agree, using a large punching bag works great! Also: (ancient secret) To avoid recoil of swinging end of chuck, turn your hand upward (knuckles up) at precise time of impact with target and keep arm just slightly bent when possible. As far as nunchaku vs Bo staff, you must find the exact time to shoot in and get inside the power range of the staff. To fight in the outside ranges is a loosing game. If you use double nunchaku you can use one pair as a projectile and disrupt the Bo fighter and shoot in swinging. The nunchaku is not a very efficient blocking weapon so you must keep swinging fast and using strikes as blocks and parries. Many books show blocking staff by holding one chuck in each hand in a upright ( A ) type position and parrieing the staff off to one side as you step into the inside range were the staff is easier to deal with. I don't recomend a static power block when fighting against staff or most other weapons, when using nunchaku.

shuyun3

01-Feb-2004, 05:50 PM

use light nunchakus not foam ones. hard enough for pain light enough to avoud serious injury. get ready for welts.

but yes they do bounce

Sparkz2k3

22-Feb-2004, 11:25 PM

hi i been having a little problem with a basic move you know the one where you pass it round the back of your neck and catch it well its the catching bit thats the problem i cant seem to get my hands in the right position to catch it can anyone help??

guran

23-Feb-2004, 12:40 AM

Illegal to carry with you in SC. We take them back and forth to training, though. I keep them in my trunk so that they are not readily available. The only time I've been hassled was when getting my car searched leaving a chemical plant. Turns out that their rule specifically said "firearms". :D

bcullen

23-Feb-2004, 05:41 AM

How about this: nunchaku vs. bo sparring. Has anyone else done it?

Yup, and I have to agree with Dogfighter. A group I hung out with did some experiments pitting makeshift sai, staff, tonfa, and nunchuka (single) against one another. Staff and tonfa generally did well even in the hands of relative newbies. The sai's were better in an experienced users hands (the fact that they weren't exactly accurate didn't help either.) The staff - nunchuka match up was the one most likely to leave you taking a beating. One thing that did work was to get the staff to block and grab the staff with your off hand and commence beating him over the head with the nunchukas. The wrap factor can help too. Even when a parry is used flexible and sectioned weapons can wrap around and hit. It's hard to gauge. On the down side parrying with a flexible weapon is next to impossible.

Albert

02-Jun-2005, 09:13 PM

Yes. I was using nunchaku and sparring a friend using a bo, i swung the nunchaku the opposite way i should have to defend against one of his strikes, and the nunchuk bounced rite up into my face and smacked me in the forehead real hard, it hurt like hell.