Who makes a good Rattan Stick?

[Bodhi]

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering who makes a good rattan stick at a reasonable price?

Thanks in advance.

Peace

[renegade]

www.wdsupplies.com

[Bodhi]

Thanks for the link.
Renegade.

Peace

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Hello Everyone,

I was wondering who makes a good rattan stick at a reasonable price?

Thanks in advance.

Peace

Mother nature ;)

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Mike

[Jim]

I was wondering who makes a good rattan stick
The person with the most glue. (Couldn't resist either!)

[Bodhi]

Funny, Thanks.

Peace

[Andy Murray]

Hi Bodhi,

Welcome to the forum. Have you considered going to someone who manufactures Cane furniture.? They may have raw, unshelled material that could be cut to length ???

P.S. is that Bodhi as in Baldurs Gate?

[dredleviathan]

Could I ask this question from a UK perspective? Anyone found any good suppliers over here?

I pretty much break everythign I've ever bought within a couple of weeks and the import duty from the US seems a bit steep.

Somebidy once told me that you get good rattan from Spain but no supplier - any ideas?

Cheers

[Bodhi]

Thanks Andy,
I never thought of doing that? I'll have to search on-line?

PS. The Bodhi is Bodhi Darhma, Buddhist teacher.

Peace

[Acekicken]

Warriors Den has great Sticks=-)

[stickgirl]

hiya

I know that this place is uk based and they import direct from G.M canate so its all wekaf standards.
and not a bad price too.
www.eskrimador-supplies.com

stickgirl

[moromoro]

hi stickgirl

how are you?
that link you gave the sticcks they have are at ridiculous prices.....
thanks

terry

[Bodhi]

MoroMoro,

"the sticcks they have are at ridiculous prices....."

How So?

Thanks & Peace

[pesilat]

moro, I think you're overlooking the fact that you live in the region. For us poor saps who live in America and Europe, we have to pay for the shipping (or, in most cases, our supplier has to pay shipping then jacks up his prices to us to compensate).

If we order them from someone in the PI, for instance, our per stick cost is cheaper, but the shipping still kills us and we have to wait a lot longer to receive them than if we get them from a supplier in our own country.

So, the prices we pay are to cover the supplier's shipping costs and the convenience of getting them quicker.

Nothing to be done about it.

Mike

[moromoro]

Hello pesi
I HAVE JUST COME BACK FROM TRAINING IN THE PHILIPPINES, I PICKED UP A PAIR OF 1.5 INCH DIAMETER KAMAGONG STICKS FOR 260 PESOS FOR THE PAIR...

I ALSO BROUGHT HOME A NUMBER OF OTHER STICKS INCLUDING RATTAN AND AN ANTIQUE BAHI STICK 50YRS OLD WAS GIVEN TO ME BY MY TEACHER GM ANDY ABRIAN HE IS IN MARK WILEY'S BOOK. i posted this on another thread but pesilat the prices that eskrimador supplies are posting are just way too much it just doesnt reflect shipping cost i got one of my cousins to send me another pair of kamagong stics and the shipping was only 400 pesos less than 8 dollars u.s and as you know the pair of sticks only cost 280 pesos this is for kamagong, rattan you can pick up for about 2 us dollars a pair and all that i have seen have been excellent quality in the philippines. Purchasing in the PHILIPPINES IS JUST SIMPLY ANOTHER CHEAP OPTION FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE BEST QUALITY ESKRIMA STICKS IN THE PLANET AND OFCORSE YOU KNOW 120% THAT IT IS MADE IN THE PHILIPPINES........SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY CONTACTS IN THE PI LOOK AT THAT OPTION FOR BUYING STICKS. YOULL BE PAYING LESS THAN 10% OF WHAT A LOT OF THE INTERNET SUPPLIERS ARE CHARGING........

thanks

terry

p.s yes i wanted some of this poat to be in capitals thanks

[pesilat]

Yeah, but the problem is that a lot of us don't have contacts in the PI who can get us sticks. So we're stuck with the suppliers here. And, at least here in the states, $4 / stick is about the best you can do ... and that's not for nice sticks (though they're often durable sticks ... depends on how you judge "nice").

For bahi or kamagong, you're talking considerably more. Nothing to be done about it. We are victims of commerce.

Mike

[moromoro]

what a pity,
yeah some of the businesses rip the hell out of ya......
so mike do you also practice eskrima or do you just concentrate on silat,

thanks

terry

[pesilat]

Originally posted by moromoro
what a pity,
yeah some of the businesses rip the hell out of ya......
so mike do you also practice eskrima or do you just concentrate on silat,

thanks

terry

Yup. I do both. My primary art is called "Sikal." It's a hybrid of elements from various systems of Kali/Eskrima/Arnis and Silat.

At its core, on the FMA side, is Lacoste/Inosanto blend with some heavy emphasis from Balintawak (GM Bobby Taboada lineage) and Doce Pares (both traditional and, especially, GM Cacoy's Eskrido variant). On the Silat side is, primarily, Serak (de Thouars lineage) and Mande Muda.

Though there are other influences in both the FMA and Silat, those are the primary ones.

I also train in Kun Tao Silat de Thouars, Sayoc Kali, and Shen Chuan (which isn't an FMA or Silat system).

Silat is my passion, but I love the FMA, too.

Mike

[moromoro]

hi pesi

is sikal your art (your creation) ???

thanks

terry

[pesilat]

Originally posted by moromoro
hi pesi

is sikal your art (your creation) ???

thanks

terry

Nope.

The term "Sikal", as I understand it, was originally coined by Guru Stevan Plinck to describe what Guru Dan Inosanto was doing at the time (late 70's or early 80's). Guru Dan then used the term briefly. My instructor (and a handful of others) trained in it under Guru Dan. When Guru Dan started bringing Malaysian Bersilat into it, it evolved into what is now called "Maphilindo." Most of my instructor's peers began using the term "Maphilindo." My instructor opted to stick to the Filipino and Indonesian (instead of pursuing the Malaysian aspects) and continued calling what he was doing "Sikal."

My instructor's first certification in FMA was in traditional Doce Pares under GM Diony Canete.

While training with Guru Dan, my instructor was introduced to Paul de Thouars and Herman Suwanda. He trained with Paul in Bukti Negara Silat for about 6 years and with Herman Suwanda in Mande Muda for about 15 years. Since Dan had drawn heavily from these two sources, this was sort of an "extension" of what my instructor had learned from Dan.

My instructor went on to train with GM Bobby Taboada and was certified ("Completion of Art") by him. He also spent about 2.5 years training in Serak with Victor de Thouars and has spent a fair amount of time training in Kun Tao Silat de Thouars with Willem de Thouars.

He continued focusing on Filipino and Indonesian martial arts and continued teaching under the term "Sikal" because it was still an accurate description of what he was doing.

Over the years, he's trained with a variety of other instructors in FMA and Silat but those above were his primary influences. And he still considers Guru Dan to be his primary influence in the arts in general.

Presently, he's training with Tuhon Chris Sayoc in Sayoc Kali and teaching it as a separate curriculum.

So "Sikal" wasn't really "created" so much as "evolved." My instructor didn't really set out to "create" a new art. But the Sikal that he teaches now, while rooted in what he learned from Guru Dan, has evolved into my instructor's personal expression of what he's learned from all his instructors in FMA and Silat over the past 24 years.

Mike

[YODA]

These are the best sticks I've used - not cheap I know but heavy and durable. They make most commercially available sticks seem like toys rather than weapons.

Kombat Instruments Limited (http://www.bloodsport.com)

http://www.bloodsport.com/images/stick5.jpg

[moromoro]

for that price they better be good, yoda have you seen that video on their website by Grandmaster Ramiro Estalilla Presents An Introduction to Kabaroan Escrima what do you think?

[pgm316]

Maybe you could start a stick selling business moromoro!

[moromoro]

dont think so, iam just amazed at the prices alot of these businesses are asking for one stick in the philippines you could get around 30 kamagong sticks for the price of a pair in some of the websites

[Bodhi]

Thanks for the site Yoda

[Kaith Rustaz]

I bought a pair from warriors den early last year. Good solid rattan. They've held up nicely. So far, a few flakes at the 'seams', but they havent gone hairy yet, and still got that great 'burnin' smell. :)

I bought 3 pairs at a 'budget' supplier, and out of the 3 pair, 1 appears to be skinned, and laquered (thats now as fuzzy as can be), and the other 2 pairs were majorly sanded down (very thin skin), and are splitting and hairy. Both are heavily taped at this point. They were of the 'decoratively carved' variety.

[BadMunkey]

Hi all.

check out http://www.canestore.co.uk/furniturerattan.htm

26 - 30mm.....£11.50 Approx. 9 ft long / 2.75 metres: makes 2 sets of canes (4 single).. i think.. been a while since i last ordered.

2types of cane either Manau or Tohiti Cane, depending on what dia. u want.

Have used both types of cane and both hold up well. Good quality.

Other prices are on their website.

they will cut the pole down to your required lengths or u can have a 9ft pole sent to u.

Anyways! see what ya think.. i dont think ya will get them much cheaper!?

Nick

[YODA]

Hiya BadMunkey - good link - ta :D

So - you know my old mate Krishna Godhania I bet?

[BadMunkey]

Hey Yoda!

Ya welcome for the link!

Yeh I know Krishna! Class bloke and teacher! How do you know him then? Do you go to his seminars?

[YODA]

Hi

Me & Krishna go a way back - I used to teach under the Warriors banner back in about '93/4

Krishna is also an apprentice instructor under my JKD Instructor, Marc McFann.

[Arif Shaikh]

check on www.sekaidosports.com as they are in India and like Philippines Inida has some of the best canes.

[YODA]

Ye godz who designed that website?

Kill them - kill them NOW - oh my bleeding eyes!

[BadMunkey]

sekaido look like they make some v nice quality cane!

any ideas what kinda shipping charge we are looking at here in the UK?

[ASian]

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[krys]

If somebody wants to buy rattan sticks in the Philippines this could help the Dumagat tribe:

SELLING : ARNIS STICKS

MADE OF HIGH-QUALITY RATTAN

P 15 / STICK (LOWER PRICE FOR WHOLESALE)

CALL / TEXT ED AT 0919-328-5801






Check out the ARNIS STICKS at
Jennifer’s Store

#56 Esteban Abada St.

Loyola Heights QC

(near Katipunan /Ateneo area)





This is to support the rattan livelihood project of the Dumagat Tribe in Gabaldon,

Nueva Ecija. The Dumagats were awarded a Certificate of Ancestral Domain

on their land by the DENR. This livelihood effort is in compliance with the Dumagats’ Ancestral Domain Management Plan.

[moromoro]

hi chris

where do you recommend would be the best place for BAHI sticks in the greater manila area.....

thanks

Terry

[krys]

I am not too sure....
Actually my Cinco Teros master and GM gave me some BAHI sticks that were made in the province, I guess they came from Bicol....
Alex Co sells some but it is not the same quality.... My CT master brought me also superior rattan sticks from a place in Quiapo maybe they also have some good BAHI..... i will ask when I'll see them soon..

Thanks.

[juramentado]

Originally posted by moromoro
hi chris

where do you recommend would be the best place for BAHI sticks in the greater manila area.....

thanks

Terry

PM me when you're in Manila. We have our own supply of high qualit bahi sticks.

[moromoro]

thanks guys


terry