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Cougar_v203
07-Apr-2003, 12:54 PM
Can anyone give me some tips in sparring?
Cain
07-Apr-2003, 01:35 PM
Hit your opponent, if he has a guard then hit that too, jjust demolish everything in your way, just avoid getting hit yourself as much as possible
And have fun :D
|Cain|
johndoch
07-Apr-2003, 01:36 PM
hit and dont get hit;)
simple really:D
johndoch
07-Apr-2003, 01:36 PM
What kind of sparring do you mean??
Cain
07-Apr-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by johndoch
hit and dont get hit;)
simple really:D
Sure it's simple, he did'nt mention how he spars so I gave him the easiest advice possible, unless he spars semicontact.....
|Cain|
pgm316
07-Apr-2003, 01:50 PM
When your sparring, what kind of range do you use?
What makes you decide to close the range?
And what factors make you choose from kicking/punching/grappling?
As oppossed to the fighter that uses randon techniques ;)
YODA
07-Apr-2003, 03:11 PM
Hi all
The a pretty good article on sparring on my website - have a look...
Thoughts on Sparring (http://www.cea.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ceaweb/art-sparring.htm)
pgm316
07-Apr-2003, 03:36 PM
Good article, especially for the people with one type of sparring! ;)
Cougar_v203
07-Apr-2003, 06:46 PM
to answer pgm question:
1.) I'm usually a close range fighter
2.) what makes me close the range? my opponent keeps moving away and i thought that if i get closer than i would have a better chance of striking him. (hope that answered that for ya)
3.) the size of the person if hes short (like my friend) then i rely on punching, for a person my height then it would be a combination of both punch and kicks, now for someone thats really tall and wide i wouldn't try grappling because it would hurt me more then it would for him :).
Cain so what your saying is I should just hit him even if hes blocking and hope to get a successful hit to the jaw, groin ;), ear?
Cain
07-Apr-2003, 07:01 PM
No, what I am saying is if you want to hit his torso but his arm is blocking the way then don't bother about the arm, just punch it, he will think twice before guarding it like that, many people who are afraid of being punched in the torso will use their arms to cover it, but they will quit that if you can give them a good punch to their guard, don't get confused if he's guarding it, just get your punch through
One more mistake I seen mostly is when people want to punch, they will stop midway and think about changing their tactics, you won't have time to think, if you are going to punch then do it, executing a technique half heartedly is risky trust me on this :)
|Cain|
Cougar_v203
07-Apr-2003, 07:32 PM
ok thanks.
Cain
08-Apr-2003, 08:50 AM
Anytime, got any dounbts just post
BTW, that's a weird sig, you are a bit.....errr......strange...
|Cain|
Sonshu
08-Apr-2003, 12:37 PM
Is to work your Jab people have a tendancy to walk into them - also fight your fight and relax!
SONSHU
KickChick
08-Apr-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Cougar_v203
3.) the size of the person if hes short (like my friend) then i rely on punching, for a person my height then it would be a combination of both punch and kicks, now for someone thats really tall and wide i wouldn't try grappling because it would hurt me more then it would for him :).
Be better at your strong points than your friend is at his.
If you are better at kicking than him, then you should use your feet to defeat.... same goes with punching. There are some people that are good at both hand and foot techniques...argh!. (like Chuck Norris), but most fighters do tend to focus on one or the other ... your job is to determine what your opponent's is and what yours is and train hard in that area. Just some advice....:)
johndoch
08-Apr-2003, 03:32 PM
Learn to understand peripheral vision. It will speed up your reaction time meaning you wont get hit as much, which is always a good thing.
pgm316
08-Apr-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by KickChick
Be better at your strong points than your friend is at his.
If you are better at kicking than him, then you should use your feet to defeat.... same goes with punching. There are some people that are good at both hand and foot techniques...argh!. (like Chuck Norris), but most fighters do tend to focus on one or the other ... your job is to determine what your opponent's is and what yours is and train hard in that area. Just some advice....:)
Whats your method for finding out? As oppossed to waiting to see if you get kicked or punched first :D
Would you stay at a longer range trying to understand your opponent instead of pilling in :confused:
KickChick
08-Apr-2003, 05:27 PM
... in response to your post pgm316 ...
I was basically referring to sparring someone that you are familiar with (Cougar's friend lets say).... ( in a class situation, or when checking out a competitor sparring at tournament....)
I suppose it depends on style, free/point sparring or type of tournie wouldn't it??? Rather broad question I suppose.
pgm316
08-Apr-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by KickChick
... in response to your post pgm316 ...
I was basically referring to sparring someone that you are familiar with (Cougar's friend lets say).... ( in a class situation, or when checking out a competitor sparring at tournament....)
I suppose it depends on style, free/point sparring or type of tournie wouldn't it??? Rather broad question I suppose.
Thats the problem with sparring with the same people over and over. We get so good at anticipating our regular sparring partners that it effects our fighting style, which could lead to big problems fighting the unknown :woo:
Probably why some grandmasters have had an ass kicking when they go and show off there unbeatable stle somewhere else ;)
But how do you get round it
:confused:
KickChick
08-Apr-2003, 06:08 PM
Good question!
I am guilty of what you described for sure!
There is one woman who is always getting me with her spin backfists and downward head strikes that I revert to punching more than usual and devise certain sparring strategies & combos in which to counterattack this woman.
Many of the men I spar are very tall and most of my kicks (and here is where you need the ability to kick high!! ;) ) have to clear their groin area ... (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't) but I find my kicks are much more powerful on a man than my punches.
Cougar_v203
08-Apr-2003, 07:09 PM
is TKD a long range or short range fighting style?
cioGium
08-Apr-2003, 07:53 PM
TKD is a long range style . it uses lots of kicking .
Cougar_v203
09-Apr-2003, 02:30 AM
ok thanks.
hybrid_TKD
15-Apr-2003, 03:43 PM
I wouldt say TKD is only a long range fighting style. Our instructor teaches both close and long range attacks. However I read someone here talking about always closing the gap because the opponent always backing away. We are taught to use faking motions and other moves to have our apponent move in on us then we block and counter attack. Now that is just a sparring stratagy. And it has worked pretty well for me. And like I said before TKD has plenty of close range attacks like various punches and strikes. It is unfortunate that most in TKD do not use those moves that can so easily win a match for you.
johndoch
15-Apr-2003, 04:30 PM
I think most people reckon that TKD is a long range art as most non TKD people see whats on display at tournament and senimars. Most TKD fights I've saw have been kicking at long range because the judges dont score punches as high as kicks.
Whats the point of training "sports" TKD people to punch if it doesn't win competitions? I reckon this must happen in a lot of TKD clubs. Dont take offense to my comment I mean it in the same vain as teaching a boxer to kick.
Cain
15-Apr-2003, 04:57 PM
Well, all I can say is that thise guys pack a HELL of a wallop in their kick, I had almost got ko'ed in my first tourney, the frigging guy was an instructor, a black belt but wore a purple best to compete in the lower categories :woo:
I have to admit I did'nt know how to block back then but I knew how to avoid, ie if I could see the kick coming to my face :rolleyes:
To this day I still shadowbox visualising that guy in my mind :woo: :woo:
.......oh darn I am ranting again :(
|Cain|
Tosh
15-Apr-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by johndoch
I think most people reckon that TKD is a long range art as most non TKD people see whats on display at tournament and senimars.
IMHO I see TKD as a middle distance art.
By definition I would see a long range art as something which would include weapon use to increase the available strikiing distance. Such as stick fighting for example (anybody agree)
Tkd would be middle as it uses kicks and hand techniques (lets not restrict ourselfs to just punches here!!).
Knife hands, backfists, side fist, palm heels, long fist and thrusts are all available tools for use (remember attacking area has to be non legal).
Of course I'm talking from an ITF perspective here where hand techniques are more readiliy used than high kicks.
The problem lies in do you go for 3 points for a jumping kick to the head or two points for the jumping backfist to the head?? Which is easier?? I know which one is more spectacular but sometimes it's just not viable, especially against a taller opponent(s).
Just me 0.02 mind! :D
Personally I "counter-spar" and favour "blitzing". Counter sparring is self exlpanatory (waiting for technique or drawing one out from your opponent then delivering the appropriate counter). Blitzing for me is steam rollering your opponent with a striaght blast or flurry of kicks (turns and half turns) when you spot them make a mistake or are off guard/balance.
But as always we must try to be adaptable to all situations!!
:D
Cougar_v203
18-Apr-2003, 11:41 AM
long fist?
johndoch
18-Apr-2003, 02:17 PM
Long Fist is derived from the chinese martial arts meaning punches with the longest range ie jab, cross. Short fist techniques would refer to short range punches such as hooks and uppercuts. Thats how I think about it but I could be wrong???
Tosh
18-Apr-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Cougar_v203
long fist?
Imagine curling your knuckles half way into making a fist.
Like this (apologies for poor quality once again!)
johndoch
18-Apr-2003, 03:06 PM
You may want check this out regarding long fist style.
www.beijingwushuteam.com/Ani/cc.html
Tosh is that not a CMA hand form for the panther?
Tosh
18-Apr-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by johndoch
Tosh is that not a CMA hand form for the panther?
The picture is from my TKD encylopedia, but I'm sure there are N interpretations. Was just referring to my original mention of long fist.
Its just terminology translatated from the Korean "ghin joomuk"
:D
johndoch
18-Apr-2003, 03:23 PM
Sorry Tosh I am with you now.
:)
I guess most arts are pretty similar it just a case of translation and description thats different;)
Cougar_v203
19-Apr-2003, 03:46 AM
the website goes way to fast.
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