Pullups/chinups ...

[tave]

I bought a chinup/pull up for my door frame a while ago. It's been a great asset (i gotten a lot stronger). At first i could only do 3 pullups and about 6 chinups. Now i can do 2 sets of 10 and 5 more (25 chinups) and about 12 pullups (nonstop). I'm trying to increase the number i can do but i seem to be stuck. any suggestions.
Does anybody know the highest # of chinups ever done?

i'm wondering.... doing more chinups would increase muscle and weight... which would make increasing the # of chinups harder... so , is there a limit to the number of chinups sombody can do?

[Cain]

There's an article on pull ups in here by Yoda, it's great

Also don't care about the highest number, care about how much intensity you can put in the number of reps you are capable of, as written if the article try tensing each and every part of your body and then pull yourself up

And there is no limit to the number, there's always a bigger number :D

|Cain|

[TkdWarrior]

but i dunno how to count after 10 :(
-TkdWarrior-

[Cain]

Oh in that case you could do 10 sets of ten reps ten times with 1 second of rest in between :p :D

|Cain|

[Joe karate]

When you can't do anymore pullups, try negatives. Take a week off and start again, give your self time to recover fully.

[tave]

negatives?

[r4bid]

just the down part, get a stool or something to get up there and then lower youself slowly.

As for your progress slowing, how much time are you taking between workouts? If you are really maxing out give yourself two days rest, works well for me.

[YODA]

Joe - r4bid - good advice guys :D

[tave]

i always plan to take a day off, but sometimes i take depending on how i'm feeling. I been kind of sick lately so i don't exercise if i feel weak.

what is the reason that the negatives help? wouldn't doing the entire motion be better?

[YODA]

You do negatives when you get to the point that you cannopt do any more full motions.

Say your goal is 3 x 10 reps and you fail at 6 - just do 4 negatives to make it up to 10.

Negatives use the eccentric phase of the muscles contraction - there are excellent strength gains to be made from ecentric contractions.

[tave]

Originally posted by YODA
You do negatives when you get to the point that you cannopt do any more full motions.

Say your goal is 3 x 10 reps and you fail at 6 - just do 4 negatives to make it up to 10.

Negatives use the eccentric phase of the muscles contraction - there are excellent strength gains to be made from ecentric contractions.

and if i do this at some point i'll be able to do the complete set (3x10) without failing at 6?

[YODA]

Originally posted by tave


and if i do this at some point i'll be able to do the complete set (3x10) without failing at 6?


That's the idea - yes.

[khafra]

As long as you
1) keep it up, but 2) don't overtrain (rest, nutrition, forgive me if that's becoming a mantra) you'll keep going--don't forget to set your goal up, keep the muscular overload progressing, if you want to keep making strength and size gains, and don't be surprised if you need more time to recover between intense workouts as you get bigger and stronger.

[tave]

Originally posted by khafra
As long as you
1) keep it up, but 2) don't overtrain (rest, nutrition, forgive me if that's becoming a mantra) you'll keep going--don't forget to set your goal up, keep the muscular overload progressing, if you want to keep making strength and size gains, and don't be surprised if you need more time to recover between intense workouts as you get bigger and stronger.

i just found that out yesterday. I did my first set , but i could only go to 7 on my last 2!!! . i had rested tuesday and wednesday kinda . i did the bike for 15 minutes tuesday and went to class wednesday and did a few drills. is this the reason i failed to complete my exercise?

[pgm316]

Originally posted by khafra
As long as you
1) keep it up, but 2) don't overtrain (rest, nutrition, forgive me if that's becoming a mantra) you'll keep going--don't forget to set your goal up, keep the muscular overload progressing, if you want to keep making strength and size gains, and don't be surprised if you need more time to recover between intense workouts as you get bigger and stronger.

My problem is overresting! You can tell theres a training problem with my over developed gut. I could say it was my chi energy well, but thats just crazy talk :p

[movado]

try weighted chin ups and pullups.get a leather weightlifting belt and use a chain attatchment from a hanging heavy bag and attach on weight plates to the chain attatched to the belt.this increases strength and will enable you to get past your sticking point while using just bodyweight.
pull yourself to the top and see how long you can stay up at the top of the movement.this is another great enhancement method of doing chin ups/pullups as well.

[thiaboxr2]

I usually do pull ups at the beginning of my workout. Since pullups would be my weakest exercise, it is better to knock them out first since that is when I am the strongest. I do them in many different ways such as I will start off with a wide grip and knock out 10, medium grip and go for 15. Then I will use the close grip and finish off with another 15-20. Or just pick a number and try to do that many pull ups through your workout.
I do pull ups every 2-3 days. As said before negatives do work. You'll notice that you can do more in about a couple of weeks later. Of course do not strain youself in the process. Proper rest and recovery time is needed to ensure you will be ready by your next workout.
And if you already get a hell of a workout in class, why not save your weightlifting/exercising for the days that your not in school? Just a suggestion.

[Knight_Errant]

God bless you Tave I've been waiting for an opportunity to pull this (http://www.cbass.com/Synaptic.htm) out!
Not forgetting the follow-up article (http://www.cbass.com/Pavel'sLadders.htm)

[Knight_Errant]

dammit why did that link not post properly?

[Kat]

Go Pryimids
Do timed locks in timed pryimids lock offs
One armed Hangs
Buy a Hangboard
Do Campus moves
www.metoliusclimbing.com/howto-campus.htm
www.metoliusclimbing.com/howto-trainrockring.htm

[braveheart]

Try doing "ladders" 1-2-3-4-5 reps, resting only as long as another person would do if you were alternating them. Then start at the bottom rung 1-2-3-4-5. How many ladders is up to you, try 3-4 of them. You will increase volume in a way that is less taxing mentally without going to failure. This is a great way to add reps on an exercise that is tough for you. Try an all out set of straight reps in about a month or two.

[Yin and Yang]

Hey, where do you get those "in the doorframe pull-up bars" I have a bar outside but that sounds cool.
-X

[Jack]

A great link dealing with Chinup progression.

http://testosterone.net/html/100back.html

Enjoy.

[Jazman]

Got some awesome advice for anyone willing to look for a good body-weight workout book which promotes pyramids reps and such. "The Navy Seal Workout" is the name and it is awesome! After about 2 weeks I had gone from 6 pullups to 11 and about 30 pushups to 50. It uses pyramids as well as about 5 types of pullups, if anyone wants I might possibly be able to send them a copy of the pullup workout. Just simply to lazy to post it right now... :D Oh yeah, good nutritional advice given in that book as well as running workouts and running form. What I do now to keep up my pullups(cause the navy seal workout takes a half an hour for pullups...) is do a set of my max number(12) for inner, outer and commando style and also chinups, then a set of 5 to finish, hope this helps someone... though I doubt it as I usually spew garbage :D

[Jack]

Post it up, Jazman! :)

[Benn]

That certainly sounds interesting...?