Hapkido Karate??? is it hapkido or is it karate?

[fordraceing_man]

which one is it?

[YODA]

Maybe it's both?

[wild_pitch]

i just posted this in your other thread.

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uhm...

hapkido karate??

i can not imagine what those two martial arts have to do with each other.

*on edit*

the school seem to have some kind of a handle on hapkido being it's own art, but all those class pictures do not look like a hapkido classes to me. maybe they are adding the term karate to the end because more people know what it is. seems odd to me as the theories of karate and hapkido are very different in almost every way.

karate - japanese, hapkido - korean
karate - hard and linier, hapkido - flowing and circular
etc.

[iron_ox]

Hello all,

In my experience, this reference to Karate is still seen mainly on the east coast of the US as a general reference to martial arts, often as taekwondo was originally called Korean Karate, just a simple label name. Incorrect, never the less, but still generally just a label.

[Thomas]

I took a look through most of the site (washido) and it doesn't look like too bad of a site. Based on the written commentary and description, I would say that it seems to be a "Hapkido" school... and they do mention that the instruction is :
"In Hapkido, our lineage is very short (techniques have been passed through three instructors originating from the founder of Hapkido - Yong Sul Choi), so our techniques are exceptionally pure" (http://www.washidostudio.com/Aboutus.htm)

I couldn't find any background on the instructors, not rank or "kwan" or style... so it's hard to say. If you were interested you could give them a call or go in for a visit. Good luck.

[MacKiDo]

Lots of martial arts schools throw Karate in their name simply because it's very recognizable to North Americans. A lot of people who don't know much about MA might mistake "Hapkido" for some kind of Korean massage technique, which in some ways it kind of is....

[Thomas]

A lot of people who don't know much about MA might mistake "Hapkido" for some kind of Korean massage technique, which in some ways it kind of is....
Shhhhh... don't give away all of our secrets... the wife thinks I'm out learning to be a 'stone cold killer'

[BSR]

Lots of martial arts schools throw Karate in their name simply because it's very recognizable to North Americans.

Yes, in fact my own school does this. Personally, I can't stand it because saying "Hapkido Karate" makes us sound like we're confused.

But I understand why my instructor does it. I don't think I've met a single non-MA person who knew what I was talking about when I said I trained in Hapkido.

[nj_howard]

Yes, in fact my own school does this. Personally, I can't stand it because saying "Hapkido Karate" makes us sound like we're confused...

actually, these guys sound confused... what on earth is "hapkido karate"? and why do they refer to their school as a "dojo", if they teach a korean art? looks like they'd call it either "dojang" or "school".

[BSR]

actually, these guys sound confused... what on earth is "hapkido karate"? and why do they refer to their school as a "dojo", if they teach a korean art? looks like they'd call it either "dojang" or "school".

Yeah, maybe they are confused. I had never actually looked at the website in question until now.

I wouldn't judge a school based on their knowledge of Japanese or Korean terminology, but it doesn't make a good first impression to someone who's a bit more knowledgeable about martial arts.

[mike-IHF]

reply,

I would judge a school by their knowledge of Japanese-Korean terminology! I'm mean it's not like your asking them for a thesis in Korean. But if they are teaching Hapkido and they don't know the simplest things as to call their school a Dojang, and not Dojo. that sounds weird to me.

[doshim]

When GM Bong Soo Han came to the U.S in 1967, he posted signs on his studio that read "Hapkido Karate" because, obviously, no one knew what Hapkido was! It was meant to let people know that it was a martial art. As the years went by, and more and more people became familiar with "Hapkido", the "Karate" was not needed and was dropped. I have no idea why someone would still be using that term.

And as far as using "Dojo" instead of "Dojang", I am in agreement with Mr Merchant. Just as we refer to our uniforms as a "Dobok", not a "Gi".

Happy Holidays to you all!

[iron_ox]

reply,

I would judge a school by their knowledge of Japanese-Korean terminology! I'm mean it's not like your asking them for a thesis in Korean. But if they are teaching Hapkido and they don't know the simplest things as to call their school a Dojang, and not Dojo. that sounds weird to me.


Why would you say this when you use Japanese terminology on your site intead of Korean?

[mike-IHF]

reply,

I used the Japanese terminology because basically the Korean is too long. It would have been crazy to put a whole sentence of words just for a caption for a picture. Also we don't even use names for our techniques we just use numbers. But I did not want to put the numbers because I was afraid no-one would know what the heck I was talking about. Also what we teach is Hapkiyoosool, so sometimes I will use the Japanese for a more discriptive quote of the lineage to Aikijujutsu. But a good question none the less.

[American HKD]

I took a look through most of the site (washido) and it doesn't look like too bad of a site. Based on the written commentary and description, I would say that it seems to be a "Hapkido" school... and they do mention that the instruction is :


I couldn't find any background on the instructors, not rank or "kwan" or style... so it's hard to say. If you were interested you could give them a call or go in for a visit. Good luck.

Greetings

This site claims "Hapkido has Hard style kicks and punches of shotokan and TKD."

It's obivious from that statement they never studied the kicks and strikes of Choi, Ji, or another reliable Hapkido sources.

The Instructor claims a 2nd dan in Hapkido but from what, Kwan, Master or Hapkido organization?

The site may look nice but it's not accurate regarding the Hapkido presentation IMHO. A little more detail would help.

[Thomas]

Greetings

This site claims "Hapkido has Hard style kicks and punches of shotokan and TKD."

It's obivious from that statement they never studied the kicks and strikes of Choi, Ji, or another reliable Hapkido sources.

The Instructor claims a 2nd dan in Hapkido but from what, Kwan, Master or Hapkido organization?

The site may look nice but it's not accurate regarding the Hapkido presentation IMHO. A little more detail would help.

Greetings! I'm not sure why you quoted me, but I would agree with your statement. As I have mentioned before, it's hard to get a lot of information from a website. My intial impression was that the site didn't look too bad... if I was in the area I would check it out. Who knows? It might be a gem afterall!

Moo Sool

[American HKD]

Greetings! I'm not sure why you quoted me, but I would agree with your statement. As I have mentioned before, it's hard to get a lot of information from a website. My intial impression was that the site didn't look too bad... if I was in the area I would check it out. Who knows? It might be a gem afterall!

Moo Sool

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