Toughening the shins

[Athleng Nordic]

What are some ways to kill the nerves in the shins and the top of the foot? :D

[gedhab]

condition your shins....stand with another person and place your feet side by side....slowlymove ur shins forward and back hitting against your partners shin...keep it light. :p

[Stuart H]

You don't want to kill the nerves. If you have no feeling in your shins you can kick too hard and snap your shins. If you've ever seen the "kickboxing leg break" video you'll know what I mean.

Get a heavy bag that's fairly solid but not too much for you. If you get a really heavy bag to start off with you might as well kick a wall.

Start kicking the bag with gradual increasing intensity. Don't overdo it. You're trying to make yourself resistant to damage, not to damage yourself!

After awhile, you shins will have become conditioned enough that you can kick the bag full force and not be hurt. When you get to this point, get a bag that's slightly heavier and repeat the process.

Just think how much conditioning you need. Do you need to be able to take fairly hard kicks to the shins, or are you looking for baseball bat breaking conditioning?

[Ikken Hisatsu]

i think we should make a sticky of at least the first part of my thai boxing myths thread to stop questions like this.

[Athleng Nordic]

Why stop the questions? Are they wrong? Are they to direct? What???

[alex_000]

hit the heavy bag with bare shins (wearing shorts) , again and again. After some years your shins will get tough. I dont feel anything when i hit the heavy bag anymore but my shin still hurts from a good knee block.

[Athleng Nordic]

So what would be a good starting weight for a kicking bag?

I'm looking at one that's 100 lbs.

[old timer]

Definately an heavy bag is the best way to condition your shins, ignore all the "use and iron bar / rolling pin / bottle" rubbish, a good heavy bag will condition your shin just fine. My right shin is awesome but my left is not as good because I tend to shin kick off my right and push front kick off my left, it works for me.

[Nrv4evr]

So what would be a good starting weight for a kicking bag?

I'm looking at one that's 100 lbs.

starting weight, um... 80-90 would be good, 100 would be medium. Once you get conditioned, go up further to 120 ish, if you can find any.

[Athleng Nordic]

Tonight at class I was kicking the bag we have. I asked about it's weight and was told it was 120 lbs and called a banana bag per the banana trees in Thailand.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Ok, ive been trying to kill my nerves in the shin for a while and it really works well actully. Heres a way ive been doing it that my friend told me monks do every day. Take either a bo staff or a stick and roll it up and down your shins 10 minutes every day. Yes it works and if you wanna kill your thigh nerves whack em 10 minutes a day with a stick. Yes im doing that to.

[Athleng Nordic]

Ok, ive been trying to kill my nerves in the shin for a while and it really works well actully. Heres a way ive been doing it that my friend told me monks do every day. Take either a bo staff or a stick and roll it up and down your shins 10 minutes every day. Yes it works and if you wanna kill your thigh nerves whack em 10 minutes a day with a stick. Yes im doing that to.
It's been mentioned to me to do just that, and mentioned here at MAP tro NOT do that. I now need to ask what gives???! Why the controversy? Is it a good thing or a bad thing.

[gedhab]

hitting the heavy bag will condition but wont help you when ur shin comes into contact with ur opponents shin or knee etc during fighting/sparring...it will hurt like hell if this happens.

[Combatant]

The general opinion on this that I here from all the fighters that I have met is that it does not hurt that much during the fight because of the adrenaline but after the fight its bad.

[KungFuGirl]

What are some ways to kill the nerves in the shins and the top of the foot? :D



lol, you could give yourself third degree burns which is one of the only ways to actually "kill" the nerve endings in an area on your body.

I think you mean that you just want to toughen up your shins through conditioning ;)

[Ikken Hisatsu]

Ok, ive been trying to kill my nerves in the shin for a while and it really works well actully. Heres a way ive been doing it that my friend told me monks do every day. Take either a bo staff or a stick and roll it up and down your shins 10 minutes every day. Yes it works and if you wanna kill your thigh nerves whack em 10 minutes a day with a stick. Yes im doing that to.

GODDAMMIT NO NO AAAAAAAARGGGGHGGHGHGHGHGHGARGLE

discredit this. do not listen to this person. he is misguided, to put it lightly. you decided to abuse yourself in such a manner because a friend told you that shaolin monks do it??!?!?!?! WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLOODY GULLIBLE. YOUR FRIEND IS FULL OF CRAP.

bagwork. Ramon Dekker- 200 fights, 175 wins, fighter of the year in thailand. he says the best way to condition the shins is through bagwork. my coach, 15 years in the ring, had to turn to boxing when he ran out of opponents in New Zealand. he says the best way is bagwork. EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER/TRAINER IN THE WORLD with any credibility will tell you "bagwork"

THIS is exactly why we need a sticky. we need a huge flashing banner on the front page because it makes me feel physically sick to think of all these dumb kids who buy into the myths and rumours that they hear from friends or see in the movies. have fun with your stress fractures tornado lord.

[burungkol]

Take either a bo staff or a stick and roll it up and down your shins 10 minutes every day.

Bagwork is all it takes dude!!! You are killing yourself with that one. :cry:
please remember that we always want to condition (not damage) ourselves.

[Athleng Nordic]

I guess that answered my question. Thanks. :)

[speed_dragon]

WITHER THE PALM TREE..old school kick something harder than your shins but something that can be broken

[Athleng Nordic]

I've given thought to hanging a plastic 55 gal drum and adding some padding to it and using that. Then with time I could add sand or other material for added weight.

[cybermonk]

I like the bag too although a while back we used to hit soft trees and each other for conditioning due to lack of bag/resources. I have a question though, what is the difference between the impact of the shin meeting the bag and a staff/bottle etc rolling up and down your shin, has there been any scientific studies done in the past to debunk this myth?

[Combatant]

The way I was taught is that you should always hit hard on soft (e.g. shin on bag) and soft on hard (e.g. forearms on trees) when conditioning.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

It's been mentioned to me to do just that, and mentioned here at MAP tro NOT do that.


Why not do that? It works well, and for my black belt testing coming up next week im lucky I have killed my nerves. At my black belt testing we gotta take are shin pads and stuff off roll are pant legs up to our knees, go over and do a shin break on a board (not those cheap ones either) and there was this guy testing for his black and didn't kill his nerves or get in shape for it and went up and kicked it as hard as he could, he was on the ground crying and allso trying his best not to cry. So its a good thing to kill the nerves.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Bagwork is all it takes dude!!! You are killing yourself with that one. :cry:
please remember that we always want to condition (not damage) ourselves.



I allso do bagwork and use the bo staff and stick.

[Ikken Hisatsu]

do as you wish. just remember that every pro thai boxer thinks you're a tit for doing it.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

So its a good thing to kill the nerves.Except for the risk of cancer, the fact that you'll have no sensation to tell you if you really damage your shin...

The reason that rolling stuff on your shin is considered a bad idea is quite simple. Take a rolling pin for example, rolling this up and down your shin will cause stress microfractures, which then heal over harder, but more brittle, than the original bone. Taken to extremes this can lead to bone cancer, osteoperosis, or ossification. But hey, its your shins.

[Dr.Syn]

I think it was Soke Tak Kubota that use to use a 5 pound hammer to toughen his..

[cybermonk]

Except for the risk of cancer, the fact that you'll have no sensation to tell you if you really damage your shin...

The reason that rolling stuff on your shin is considered a bad idea is quite simple. Take a rolling pin for example, rolling this up and down your shin will cause stress microfractures, which then heal over harder, but more brittle, than the original bone. Taken to extremes this can lead to bone cancer, osteoperosis, or ossification. But hey, its your shins.

That makes sense, what are the effects of high velocity impact against a bag/opponent?

[LilBunnyRabbit]

That makes sense, what are the effects of high velocity impact against a bag/opponent?Less damaging, because its a 'softer' impact. This is all drawn from a GP I know incidentally, as well as my own (teeny weenie) bit of knowledge on the subject from my medical physics course.

[Nrv4evr]

Hitting your shins with wood hurts for a reason... YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO!
A heavy bag is useful for a reason... YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HIT IT!
Do the math. Your shins + wood, or your shins + bag... Which one is more sensible?

[Athleng Nordic]

Okay training on a bag is the best method for the shins. How about the thighs? We were training to "Eat" the hit on our thighs last night. The drill was about blocking the feint at the head then catching the kick. Had fun caught a couple of good hits, we were trying to go soft but after an hour your legs are jello. :D

So how can I work this?

[ToRNaDo LorD]

GODDAMMIT NO NO AAAAAAAARGGGGHGGHGHGHGHGHGARGLE

discredit this. do not listen to this person. he is misguided, to put it lightly. you decided to abuse yourself in such a manner because a friend told you that shaolin monks do it??!?!?!?! WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLOODY GULLIBLE. YOUR FRIEND IS FULL OF CRAP.

bagwork. Ramon Dekker- 200 fights, 175 wins, fighter of the year in thailand. he says the best way to condition the shins is through bagwork. my coach, 15 years in the ring, had to turn to boxing when he ran out of opponents in New Zealand. he says the best way is bagwork. EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER/TRAINER IN THE WORLD with any credibility will tell you "bagwork"

THIS is exactly why we need a sticky. we need a huge flashing banner on the front page because it makes me feel physically sick to think of all these dumb kids who buy into the myths and rumours that they hear from friends or see in the movies. have fun with your stress fractures tornado lord.



Saying im misguided? Im learning from a master instructor 6th degree black belt in TKD, Sayoc Kali, Kick Boxing, Philipino Martial Arts, Escrima, Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, and Masho Jio-Jitsu. Your saying im misguided? Think again. He personly trained in Korea, Thailand, and the Philipenes and was a gold medal winner of the 1994 Kali World Championships in the Philipenes and was awarded Master Instuctor of the year by Shokie International Hall of Fame in 1997. You still think im misguided? And no, my friend is not full of crap me and him are both black belts and the best in our dojo, he's better than me, he is not full of crap. Now see if im misguided or he's full of crap. Think before you speak.

[nunchukpaul]

me and him are both black belts and the best in our dojo, k. oooooooooooooo arrrrr hard man, hate to tell you but ikken was right :rolleyes:

[Nrv4evr]

While I do agree that Ikken does at times overexaggerates (putting it lightly), he does have a point. Read my other post:

Hitting your shins with wood hurts for a reason... YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO!
A heavy bag is useful for a reason... YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HIT IT!
Do the math. Your shins + wood, or your shins + bag... Which one is more sensible?

I'm not saying your master sensei is wrong, it's just that its been shown through combat and actual training that a heavy bag is just as good as whacking your shins against wood. I myself have never, ever, broken a baseball bat with my shins, because IT'S NOT NECESSARY! If you like to use your traditional methods, go ahead. We're just saying its completely unnecessary to inflict this on yourself. (BTW, breaking boards with your hands is a lot more useful than with your feet/shin, since kicks tend to be aimed at more fleshy spots, like the legs or abdomen.)

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Im learning from a master instructor 6th degree black belt in TKD, Sayoc Kali, Kick Boxing, Philipino Martial Arts, Escrima, Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, and Masho Jio-Jitsu. Your saying im misguided? Think again. He personly trained in Korea, Thailand, and the Philipenes and was a gold medal winner of the 1994 Kali World Championships in the Philipenes and was awarded Master Instuctor of the year by Shokie International Hall of Fame in 1997.Unfortunately despite an extensive search I can find no details of the 1994 WEKAF world championships, since their official website seems to be down. There was a profile page on a completely seperate site that claimed to describe a sixth dan who could've been your instructor, but there were no links or even references to back of the claims on this page. I've also not managed to find anything on the Shokie International Hall of Fame, are you sure you spelt it correctly?

[gedhab]

Saying im misguided? Im learning from a master instructor 6th degree black belt in TKD, Sayoc Kali, Kick Boxing, Philipino Martial Arts, Escrima, Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, and Masho Jio-Jitsu. Your saying im misguided? Think again. He personly trained in Korea, Thailand, and the Philipenes and was a gold medal winner of the 1994 Kali World Championships in the Philipenes and was awarded Master Instuctor of the year by Shokie International Hall of Fame in 1997. You still think im misguided? And no, my friend is not full of crap me and him are both black belts and the best in our dojo, he's better than me, he is not full of crap. Now see if im misguided or he's full of crap. Think before you speak.

Sorry to bust your bubble dude but all this means nothing. Its not the number of styles or the amount of years you've been training...it's the quality of your training that matters. Just because he's a 6th degree black belt, doesnt make every claim he makes true...does it? Ill go with Ikken on this one as he has a more moderate approach to his training. Give some scientific or otherwise evidence to back up what your saying rather than giving theresume of your instructor and then ill listen to what you have to say :rolleyes:

[Graifox]

I'm not saying your master sensei is wrong, it's just that its been shown through combat and actual training that a heavy bag is just as good as whacking your shins against wood.

why do people use japanesse in refernce to a korean art.... i got told off for it.... :D

If you kill off nerves aren't you gonna risk losing some control of your leg and some autodefensive reactions. Ie pulling your leg away from a hot surface or not being able to tell if the bathwaters to hot.
I mean you could boil other "bits" in water thats to hot. Not nice!
And aren't you gonna risk skin cancer too from damaging the skin like that. Bruises gave serious effects on the skin if too deep. Not to mention muscle damage.

Isn't it more possible to rip a muscle or a tendon thats bruised and tight?

Also if you damage your nerves bones muscles etc aren't you gonna slow yourself down therefor decreasing the efficency of a kick or your reaction times.

And i thought the point of learning to block effectively was to decrease the risk of injury through mpact. If so, why then do a sport if you are gonna conteract all that hard work you've done to get good in the first place.

whats the point?

:huh:

[Ikken Hisatsu]

Saying im misguided? Im learning from a master instructor 6th degree black belt in TKD, Sayoc Kali, Kick Boxing, Philipino Martial Arts, Escrima, Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, and Masho Jio-Jitsu. Your saying im misguided? thai boxing has no belt ranks. and why would you gain ranks in both kickboxing and thai boxing?

Think again. He personly trained in Korea, Thailand, and the Philipenes and was a gold medal winner of the 1994 Kali World Championships in the Philipenes and was awarded Master Instuctor of the year by Shokie International Hall of Fame in 1997. You still think im misguided? got anything to verify that? not that it means anything to me anyway. never even heard of the shokie hall of fame. And no, my friend is not full of crap me and him are both black belts and the best in our dojo, he's better than me, he is not full of crap. Now see if im misguided or he's full of crap. Think before you speak. yeah you guys are real hard men. have fun with your zimmerframes.

[Nrv4evr]

why do people use japanesse in refernce to a korean art.... i got told off for it.... :D


What does this have to do with my quote? :confused: All I was saying that different senseis have different preferences and uses. BUT, a heavy bag is just as useful for conditioning the shins as wood. Wood has unnecessary pain involved, but the overall results are pretty much the same, aside from the fact that the wood using shin would have more pain intensity.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Sorry to bust your bubble dude but all this means nothing. Its not the number of styles or the amount of years you've been training...it's the quality of your training that matters.


Ive been training over 4 years, I know what im doing.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

thai boxing has no belt ranks. and why would you gain ranks in both kickboxing and thai boxing?


Im saying his TKD black belt rank, sorry for not saying that.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

got anything to verify that? not that it means anything to me anyway. never even heard of the shokie hall of fame.


Ive never heard about before allso, but we have a lil handbook that he has on his desks that we can take. It dosn't say the stuff I said on our website but ill check again to see if there is, if it isn't ill talk to him about putting it on.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Ok, I found it. It dosn't say his belt rank but it has mostly all I said. Go to http://www.hessmartialarts.com/master.htm

[LilBunnyRabbit]

Wood has unnecessary pain involved, but the overall results are pretty much the same, aside from the fact that the wood using shin would have more pain intensity.And don't forget the lovely brittle bone syndrome, osteoperosis, bone cancer, and ossification that the wood is more likely to cause.

Ive been training over 4 years, I know what im doing.I've been training twelve years, as much time as I can squeeze in, and I have only the vaguest idea what I'm doing.

Ok, I found it. It dosn't say his belt rank but it has mostly all I said. Go to Are any of his supposed achievements and qualifications mentioned on a site that isn't his, or do we just have to take his word for it?

[gedhab]

Ive been training over 4 years, I know what im doing.

yOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHEN I SAID THAT ITS THE QUALITY OF YOUR TRAINING NOT NECCESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF YEARS!

seriously though lil bunny rabbits right, thats his site so how can we verify those claims?

ive never heard of your instructor before...i suggest you stop living in his shadow and do a little research. Just bacause he's your teachers doesnt mean he's god! :rolleyes:

[Graifox]

What does this have to do with my quote? :confused: All I was saying that different senseis have different preferences and uses. BUT, a heavy bag is just as useful for conditioning the shins as wood. Wood has unnecessary pain involved, but the overall results are pretty much the same, aside from the fact that the wood using shin would have more pain intensity.

Sensei is a japanese suffix to a name that means elder or more experiancedor teacher for example if your teachers last name was smith it would be smith sensei sometimes used for first names too for exampl jhon sensei. Or more often its just used in equivalent to sir. i included your post as it illustrated my point. sorry didn't mean to be picky. :o

[Ikken Hisatsu]

err tornado lord, are you actually trying to argue this? its a fact. hitting your shins with hard objects is not a good idea. go to sherdog and ask in the fighters feedback forum- these are pro fighters, they will tell you exactly what everyone here is saying. has it occured to oyu that they might be a little more qualified than your instructor? oh, and a black belt in 4 years? thats just super :D

[Athleng Nordic]

How in the nine planes does anyone earn a blackbelt in 3 to 4 years?

[Combatant]

.......can anyone else see golden arches? :D

[Athleng Nordic]

.......can anyone else see golden arches? :D
Why yes ma'am I'd like to supersize that blackbelt! :D

[Combatant]

Would you like dans with that? :D

oh the jokes are endless. ;)

I'm only kidding, I guess I am just board of this thread and whole topic. Whacking your shins with hard things is bad for you. It may make you feel less pain but at what cost? End of story.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Are any of his supposed achievements and qualifications mentioned on a site that isn't his, or do we just have to take his word for it?


If you don't believe me fine. But I know what im doing and I already said me and my friend are the best in the dojo besides the instructor. Wood may damage my shins, but I allso do bagwork. I do alot of each, I do the stick at home the bagwork at my dojo.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

ive never heard of your instructor before...i suggest you stop living in his shadow and do a little research. Just bacause he's your teachers doesnt mean he's god! :rolleyes:


Im not saying he is God. And im not living in his shadow, I havn't seen one martial artist better than him yet. And for yo info I do alota research on martial arts. Chuck Norris is better, of course. Bruce Lee of course. Jackie Chan. Alot but none ive seen that arn't like them. So you peeps do a lil research.

[nunchukpaul]

Im not saying he is God. And im not living in his shadow, I havn't seen one martial artist better than him yet. And for yo info I do alota research on martial arts. Chuck Norris is better, of course. Bruce Lee of course. Jackie Chan. Alot but none ive seen that arn't like them. So you peeps do a lil research.

Erm hate to brake it to ya but watching a few bruce lee or jackie chan movies doesnt really count as a great deal of martial art research :rolleyes: i guess no one can tell you how to train only guide you, and if you dont listen then i bet you wish you had in a few years oh mr.blackbelt ardest man in the dojo sir

[Ikken Hisatsu]

rofl. the fact that you listed jackie chan, chuck norris and bruce lee as the best fighters shows how much you know about actual fighting. put any of those guys in the ring against a pro K-1 or PRIDE fighter and see how long they last. jackie chan has even said he is an artist not a fighter.

[Graifox]

random moment of light heartedness as he brought up Jackie Chan....
Rumble in the Bronx was great!
great film......
hehe.... i wanna try riding a dirtbike over a load of cars!!!

[Athleng Nordic]

rofl. the fact that you listed jackie chan, chuck norris and bruce lee as the best fighters shows how much you know about actual fighting. put any of those guys in the ring against a pro K-1 or PRIDE fighter and see how long they last. jackie chan has even said he is an artist not a fighter.
You said it!!! I love to watch these guys (Chucky was good in his day, Walker TR must go away, PLEASE!!!), but they are not Pro Fighters. My school has a couple of champions and I love to see them fight. Even better is to train with them!

[glenchuy]

Think again. <snip> and was a gold medal winner of the 1994 Kali World Championships in the Philipenes

under what category?

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Damn lil peeps think what you want but I know what im doing.

[Maverick]

Clearly you don't.

[Ikken Hisatsu]

tornado lord- sounds like you are i nthat big ole river, denial. you realise you are flying in the face of what EVERY PRO FIGHTER has to say on the subject? along with any doctor on the planet? doesnt this make you question what your teacher has said? Ramon Dekker, a record of 175-25, named fighter of the year in thailand (which is the highest honour you can get in thai boxing, especially as a foreigner) said when he was asked that padwork is all you need and should use for conditioning. how many pro fights has your instructor had again? and against who?

I just cannot understand how you can have a viewpoint like this. its like someone saying the world is flat, being shown overwhelming evidence that it is round, yet continuing to assert that the world is flat. we arent trying to make fun of you or anything here, it pains me to see people damage themselves because of poor teaching and bad advice. and thats what you are doing.

[Athleng Nordic]

Ikken What is a good indicator that I'm starting to gain some level of condition using the bag? Right now I'm hitting the bag with a mid-level intenseity of power 10 time each shin 3 times. TIA.

[Ikken Hisatsu]

hit it more, and with more power. really I cant say because Icant see what your doing and what kind of level you're at, so you would be better off asking your coach.

[ToRNaDo LorD]

we arent trying to make fun of you or anything here, it pains me to see people damage themselves because of poor teaching and bad advice. and thats what you are doing.



Ok, thanks for the advice. Ill do more bagwork instead now. But I don't get poor teaching and bad advice if your saying thats what my instructor was saying. It was my friend that told me this.

[TM77]

Doesn't killing the nerves in your shins also lead to a condition called "cold feet"? Where your toes are always cold because a sufficient amount of blood can't get to them or something or other.
Nice to see you're wising up Tornado Lord. It reminds me of a karate student I met back in the late 80s who told me that in order to toughen up his knuckles he had to beat on a tree until they were bloody and then pull the loose skin back and continue. I don't know where he is today but I bet he regrets it.
Train smart.

[Nrv4evr]

It reminds me of a karate student I met back in the late 80s who told me that in order to toughen up his knuckles he had to beat on a tree until they were bloody and then pull the loose skin back and continue. I don't know where he is today but I bet he regrets it.
Train smart.

:eek: ....OW! Jeez, he actually was able to summon the courage to do that? That alone is black belt material... Pulling back the skin, merciful crap! That's another way to develop arthritis, not to mention infection.

[alex_000]

If you beat on a tree one of your knuckles will brake (or more). The loose skin is the last thing to worry about.

[LilBunnyRabbit]

....OW! Jeez, he actually was able to summon the courage to do that? That alone is black belt material... Pulling back the skin, merciful crap! That's another way to develop arthritis, not to mention infection.Courage? Not what I'd call it...

[Athleng Nordic]

Doesn't killing the nerves in your shins also lead to a condition called "cold feet"? Where your toes are always cold because a sufficient amount of blood can't get to them or something or other.
Nice to see you're wising up Tornado Lord. It reminds me of a karate student I met back in the late 80s who told me that in order to toughen up his knuckles he had to beat on a tree until they were bloody and then pull the loose skin back and continue. I don't know where he is today but I bet he regrets it.
Train smart.
UGHHH!!! How stupid can one get?!!?

[axelb]

one day a guy came to my teacher complaining he had pains in his wrist and knees.

My teacher said maybe he should use wraps and gloves when punching a bag, or use a lighter bag - what weight is the bag you use?

oh, I don't use a bag, I use a tree

:rolleyes:

[redsandpalm]

It reminds me of a karate student I met back in the late 80s who told me that in order to toughen up his knuckles he had to beat on a tree until they were bloody and then pull the loose skin back and continue. I don't know where he is today but I bet he regrets it.
Train smart.No no, this is a very special technique. It's purpose is that if you punch someone - even if you lose the fight - you will actually beat them by fatally infecting them with the discusting, pussy sores on your knuckles!

[redsandpalm]

I thought one of the main points of 'conditioning/bagwork' was to load up the shin bones and make them stronger anyway, not just to kill off nerves? - Ikken?

[ToRNaDo LorD]

Nice to see you're wising up Tornado Lord. It reminds me of a karate student I met back in the late 80s who told me that in order to toughen up his knuckles he had to beat on a tree until they were bloody and then pull the loose skin back and continue. I don't know where he is today but I bet he regrets it.
Train smart.



Dang! thats freakin crazy lol. Well ive been doing alota bag work now... I like doing that more than using the stick :cool: . Well later

[Athleng Nordic]

No no, this is a very special technique. It's purpose is that if you punch someone - even if you lose the fight - you will actually beat them by fatally infecting them with the discusting, pussy sores on your knuckles!
ICK!!! and UGH!!! in that order! so there!!! :D

[MTK]

Kick trees first soft then a little harder and eventually youll get used to it

[Ikken Hisatsu]

..... have you even read this thread MTK?

[Nrv4evr]

Kick trees first soft then a little harder and eventually youll get used to it

bang your head against a wall, then a little harder, and eventually, between the blurred vision and nausea, you'll realize that I'm poking fun at you. :D

But seriously, you might want to read the thread before posting. Just a friendly tip from me to you.

[Athleng Nordic]

I'm guessing he hasn't. :D

[axelb]

it works for Jean Claude Van-Damme in Kickboxer though,
so it's a tried and tested method, and on film for evidence ;)

[Athleng Nordic]

Yea and my revolver can fire nine times without reloading and I never miss my "flicked" shots! :D

[redsandpalm]

Hmmm, maybe now the thread will keep going for another 5 pages until someone else joins in and says the same thing again....