hankido

[evilkingston]

the softest form of hapkido... but be aware, it's not because you just use your opponents force (~ be like water/like aikido) that is not effective, because it is VERY...

check out GM Myung (+) on:
http://hapkido.or.kr/hankido/1_4dae.htm

[Thomas]

Great site!

I was so excited yesterday after you mentioned Hankido that I looked at the site and got thinking again about Hankido. At class last night I worked through the first 6 (+ and -) with a partner and got them back up to speed. I then worked them from various setups and discussed the philosophy behind it. It was really good to work those skills again and I will probably insert some of the ideas into classes here and there. (I already use Hankido to teach the basic outside wrist lock and I use it for some of the stretching we do.)

Hopw much does your school train in Hankido... do they offer ranking? In Korea I turned down the opportunity to work towards a rank in Hankido... I prefered working the Hapkido for rank and the Hankido for additional training.

Anyone else out there studied Hankido?

[fester]

Hello yes I train at the same school as evil K. dont foreget that Hankido/hapkido isn't only grappling so the same philosofy of fluwendlyness go's for example sparring and yes we have belt ranking in hankido the same as in avery martial arts school
regarts

[NeonxBurst]

Hello yes I train at the same school as evil K. dont foreget that Hankido/hapkido isn't only grappling so the same philosofy of fluwendlyness go's for example sparring and yes we have belt ranking in hankido the same as in avery martial arts school
regarts
Fester you're wrong in more ways than spelling. You see not all schools have a belt system, but they do all offer a form of rank. The Wing Chun Kwoon I used to train at used absolutely NO belt/sash system. The Karate school here has no belts either.(prolly because they're all 3rd degree and above due to the fact it's by invitation only...) There ya go now you're all straightened out.

[American HKD]

Greeting,

What is Hankido?
Please explain in details comparing it to Hapkido!

[fester]

hankido is hapkido:)
check out the site that evil kingston posted

[American HKD]

hankido is hapkido:)
check out the site that evil kingston posted

Why the diferent name?

The techniques on the home page looks more like Aikido than Hapkido I think

[evilkingston]

that's because they (aikido & hapkido) have the same roots... i think thomas posted a great site about it, i'm just not sure where it was... (thomas, help us out here, please) it's around here somewhere, but where?

if i find it, i'll definately post it, meanwhile, if you browse the site i posted you'll find a lot more info aswell...
grtz

[American HKD]

that's because they (aikido & hapkido) have the same roots... i think thomas posted a great site about it, i'm just not sure where it was... (thomas, help us out here, please) it's around here somewhere, but where?

if i find it, i'll definately post it, meanwhile, if you browse the site i posted you'll find a lot more info aswell...
grtz

Yes both Aikido and Hapkido have the same roots in Aiki-jutsu,

I believe Aikido deviated from the roots much more than Hapkido did.

The Hankido Master seems to have mixed the Aiki-Jutsu root with Aikido and came up with a another derivittive "Not Aikido" and "Not Hapkido" or Aiki-jutsu if you will?

Thoughts?

:)

[Thomas]

Hankido is NOT Hapkido. It is a separate system (or even philosophical expression) created by as Hapkido Grandmaster.

Hankido is a neat system designed by GM Myeong Jae-nam to be a simple, yet effective system of defence. It’s very soft and relies on movement and leverage. It is made up of 12 “attack” postures and 12 “defence” postures (complementary to each other). It is practiced from a cross wrist grab but then is expanded to fit open hand attacks, weapon usage/defence, and so on. They can also be applied at speed against punches, pushes and grabs (and knife thrusts.) (from my journal: http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/journal.php?do=view&journalid=1018)

Hankido can be trained very softly and there are some interesting demos out there where it is trained as a dance. The basic concept is to take effective techniques and train them until they can be used in a wide variety of situations. The defensive postures help loosen the body up and prepare for being attacked while the offensive ones do the opposite.

I believe GM Myong Jae-nam created the system based on ideas that he was working on concerning Hapkido, Dan-Jeon breathing, and footwork stuff. As he put it together it really became a nice expression of his philosophy: soft and mobile with leverage and power added as needed.

At the school where I learned it, we used it to supplement our Hapkido teachings and found that it blended well and also could be applied to weapons, multiple attackers, and etc. The nice part is that it is simple… (Some people tested for rank but others didn’t)

AmericanHKD: I hope this answers your questions. If you look at the site linked by evilkingston, you can see some of the movements. I will be more than happy to answer any specific questions based on my limited training that I have had in Hankido (2 years).

[evilkingston]

in our club hankido IS considered part of hapkido (or vice versa so that hapkido = hankido), i assume that (some of) you all see it as 'only' the 12 movements, but that's not just all we train
we have a lot of fallbreaking + jumps, hoshinsull (the selfdefence techniques: locks, throws, defence on punches and kicks + grips, etc.), kicking and punching, sparring, and with all these we also use the hankido-techniques (hankido on punches, hankido on kicks, hankido vs weapons, hankido with weapons...)
you CAN train just HANKIDO @our club aswell, but then it's mostly for older people (who do not have a MA background), it's not as tough a training like our hapkido -> the hankidokas can get a grade
i pressume that in korea you can also get a grade in hankumdo [with weapons] (which we mostly train 1hour/week), but we can't get a grade in that (not in europe that i'm aware of... can you do hankumdo exams in america?)

thomas: to answer a previous question you had: we mostly practise hankidotechniques @the end of a lesson (low belts practise on grip the first three techniques, higher belts do more (let's say the first 6) on grip + on attack (one really attacking the other with punches [running towards eachother]), the highbelts (red + blackbelts) have to do all the techniques on attack (so not standing still like the lower belts))
PS: all have to fall (breakfalling when throwed) so it's not like the low belts aren't getting tired ;)
grtz
yves

[American HKD]

Thomas,

I believe your right I looked at the 12 movements at that site and it only had minor resembelances to Hapkido.

About Evilkingston's school teaching or mixing Hapkido & Hankido that's possible of course.

[fester]

can you tell me the difference then between hapkido, hanmudo and hankido?
what is so difirent about hankido that you saw on the site?
tnx for the reply
fester

[Thomas]

evilkingston (and others): I should have clarified that in Korea at the school I trained at, Hankido was a part of our lessons and we practiced it several times a week. Those people who wanted to could test for rank (We have these passport size booklets with a page for rank in Hapkido, a page for Hankido, a page for Hangumdo, and other pages, too). I never bothered taking the test but I did enjoy the Hankido in class.

At our Hapkido tests we were not tested in the Hankido stuff... but we were tested on the hoshinsool, breakfalls/jumping, and other skills. By the way, we also were required to learn forms. Do you learn forms (hyung sae) at your IHF school ?

--------------------------
About Hankido, I find a lot of it very close to Hapkido locks but I think the movement and breathing is closer to some of the softer Aikido that I've seen. There's a lot of leading and misdirection through footwork and leverage. I have never experienced Hanmudo, though.

[evilkingston]

yes, but only with weapons
(nunchaku, stick, sword, long stick)
of course we have 4-forms and 8-forms, where you move in a 4 or 8 star doing hapkidotechniques (i dunno if this counts as forms...?)

grtz :D

[Thomas]

Where I trained, we actually had a set of forms (like Kata) for Hapkido... one per belt level. I haven't really heard of other schools using Hapkido hyung sae really.... anyone?

[BackFistMonkey]

So far in the my dojang I have learned two kata/forms one for each belt as Thomas mentioned above . No kicks in either form but alot of foot work and reverse blocks/strikes/punches . I have been assured that the later kata's will make me wish I had never asked about the lack of kicks now ...

There will be one kata/form per belt untill green then we have one that is taught to us and we have to create one that must closely simulate real situations using only hapkido ( for those of us who have/are crosstrained/ing ). So I am actually looking foward to the assignment I love a good challenge .


back to the topic I had no clue hankido excisted but from what I have seen with my limited "butt in chair research " it seems to be a good solid platform I want to study it from a "butt on the mat point of view" now .

[fester]

Where I trained, we actually had a set of forms (like Kata) for Hapkido... one per belt level. I haven't really heard of other schools using Hapkido hyung sae really.... anyone?
was that with master Han?
He has forms
He has now his own federation :global hapkido fed. I think.

[Kosh]

The only patterns we have is with some weapons. Some weapons are kind of left over from when they were used in combat, but now the remain as conditioning tools. Some weapons do however remain in the 'application' category. Completely off topic.

[bvermillion]

For some reason the sight on hankido keeps showing up in Korean. Beings I am not fluent in korean I have no understanding of Hankido at all. Help would be appreciated.

[Thomas]

Sorry about that... there isn't an English site there. With a google search, I came up with some "Hankido" references, but nothing technique-wise. If you can't read Korea, just go to the site and start clicking around... there's lots of little video clips and such in it.

[evilkingston]

these are all the links found on the official IHF site:

http://www.ushankido.org/ (USA L.A.)

http://www.sangmoo.com/
(looks under construction or something)

http://www.ihkd.co.kr/

http://www.myhapkido.co.kr/

http://www.hapkidohellas.gr/ (greec site, STILL languagebarrier :bang: )

http://www.hkd.com.au/ (english)

http://www.hankido.cl/ (english + spanish)

http://www.daehansports.com/ (belgium - :D :love: )

http://www.hapkidousa.org/ (USA San Francisco)

http://www.thehapkidoinstitute.com/ (USA also Frisco)

http://www.unitedstateshapkihae.com/ (USA college park)

http://www.hapkiyoosool.com/ (USA Florida)

http://www.hapkido.com.br/ (Brasil)

http://www.hapkido.ca/ (Canada)

http://hapkido.irk.ru/ (Russia, has an english version, but that's under construction :bang: )

bvermillion: hope that helps you a bit, at least this might answer some of your questions

[fester]

http://www.daehansports.com/ (belgium - :D :love: )

oh dierbaar belgië oh heilig land der vaderen....

ah das eigenlijk wel kool zo int nederlands dan verstaan ze mij niet.
zeker die ene die mij even ging out straite klootzak met ne groene band taekwondo:D hier heb je niet van terug he:) :yeleyes:

The dutch site is verry good: but its a differend kind of hankido
that we do in Belgium. They have an other grandmaster than our club. They als do Yang style tai chi compementary with their hkd. They train very very slow have an other stance, its different.
That's why I cant pinpoint what is hankido becouse even in the federation/Korea are other styles.
sorry for the errors but I couldn't be bodered :D :cool:

[bvermillion]

So you are telling me all of you guys are fluent in korean.

[BackFistMonkey]

Babel Fish translation (http://world.altavista.com/) or use the other link Babel fish link #2 (http://babelfish.altavista.com/)

maybe even World lingo (http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html)
or Dictionary dot com (http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html)

I havent tried this one but its a list of web tranlators
( free ) translation service list (http://www.word2word.com/freead.html)

Google has a translator @ google does it too (http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en)

IBM has a translator too IBM translates Korean for you too !! (http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/aw.nsf/html/mt)

SO no , not all of us can read korean ...

[fester]

no man I am telling you there are lots of sites: the ones :woo: evil kingston looked up are in english

ciao (bella rules)

ps: die evil kingston
:love: I WILL feet you :love: once the hole is closed :D

pps: seg netslet hedde gij nu ook al zo een janette journal?
gij verveeld u zeker
may the fist be with you

[Thomas]

So you are telling me all of you guys are fluent in korean.
Not fluent, but I do read/write/understand/speak Korean to a decent degree.

[bvermillion]

Not fluent, but I do read/write/understand/speak Korean to a decent degree.

Very Impressive. I still sometimes get stuck counting to 10 in Korean and I learned way back as a White Belt when I first started TKD.

[fester]

I would like to pick up the discussion wat's the difference hankido/hapkido for me hankido is a hapkido style but mister rosenberg sees in hankido only a resemblence of hapkido more concrete differences seen?
I can't pin point what is hapkido what is hankido it's all the same to me they have the same princeples and everything so please your thoughts about it
tnx

[evilkingston]

I think hankido isn't as old as hapkido, it more modern...
I also feel that with hankido you turn more? (circular motion)
what do you think about that fester? anybody? :D just my humble thoughts n the matter...

[fester]

are you mocking me boy!!!!!!
ofcourse hankido is younger
and yes more circular motions but hapkido has that to
das dus wel de laatste keer dat ik int engels tegen u spreek he:)

[Thomas]

(Piece of advice: MAP prefers English as the language for posts... use of lots of non-English can result in locking or editting of posts. :) )

Apparantly GM Myong Jae-nam was one of the few Hapkidoists who regularly invited Japanese Aikidokas to come and share their knowledge in Korea. As you know, after Japanese occupation, many Korean hated the Japanese and refused to acknowledge any Japanese influence in their culture and/or martia, arts. Because of GM Myong's interaction with Aikido, some people believe that he developed Hankido based on a closer look at Aikido's principles with a goal creating a simple system that could complement Hapkido. (This is all based on what I've read... I do not know how accurate the information is, but it fits well with my experiences in GM Myong's system in Korea.)

For me personally, Hankido provides me with additional ways to teach circular concepts, footwork and breathing and it ties nicely into Hapkido (I find Hankido a bit "softer" than Hapkido)

[ushankido]

Thomas,

I understand you studied hankido while you were in Korea. Who was your teacher? Thanks!

[Thomas]

Thomas,

I understand you studied hankido while you were in Korea. Who was your teacher? Thanks!
I trained in Nonsan City in Chungchongnamdo under Master Choi Hyeon-kyu. Our federation is the International Hapkido Federation and the President was (while I was there) GM Jae-Nam Myong. I also studied Hankido under Master Choi Hyeon-kyu.

I also studied Korean Guards Martial Arts (Han Gook Kyeong Ho Moo Sool) and was rank certified under Association President Ki Sang Kim. I was also formally recognized for my contributions to the Korea Guards Martial Arts by Association Presdient Ki Sang Kim.

ushankido: I just went into your website... AWESOME. I really enjoyed it. Thanks

[Thomas]

:) :)

I got my Hankido: A Basic Introduction to the Art DVD and watched it a few times.

The DVD (region free) runs about 70 minutes (or so) and is sectioned into a lot of chapter grouped by topic... very easy to find what you are looking for. The production is very good and very clear. It is in Korean but has English, Greek, Spanish, and Portuguese subtitles, which are very good and clearly written (with a very few errors)

The material starts from a series of warmups and stretches (about 5 minutes worth) and proceeds into Hankido breakfalls (a bit softer than "standard" Hapkido) and breakfall combinations! It also covers some basic footwork drills (keys to the techniques later on)

It then covers the 12 basic offensive and defensive postures that can be done as a solo training exercise. It shows them first with a partner and then solo. All techniques are shown at full speed and slow speed several times and from different angles.

Next, the basic techniques are shown in a self defense sense... with more pressure and resistance. The DVD culminates with the basic technqiues being applied on resiting opponents from a variety of attacks. They are taught from a cross wrist grab but this part is key in showing how these 12 basic techniques (or 24 if you count offence/defence as separate) can be adapted to any situation. Various finishers are shown as well.

Overall this DVD shows how a relatively basic system made up of a limited amount of techniques can be applied in many situations in a practical way.

Extras: This DVD has a large photo slide show which is really cool and also about 10 minutes of (grainy) footage of GM Myung Jae-nam in action at demos. He shows his stuff in soft ways and escalates up to using it against some serious guys under pressure. This 10 minute set of footage is worth the price of the DVD for anyone who is a fan of GM Myung Jae-nam and for whoever wants to see him in action (especially his link to Hapkido and Aikido)

Overall, would I recommend this DVD?

Yes, the price is good, the production is excellent and the extras are very valuable.

-I would recommend this to any and all Hankido students and to students of GM Myung Jae-nam's IHF.

-I would recommend this to anyone who wants to see the applications of a soft art in a "hard" way... of seeing how "fancy" footwork and techniques can be adapted and applied in many situations

-For people who want straight forward self defence stuff, you may not care for this. The techniques are fairly easy but require a lot of practice, thought, and "doing" before it can be applied in a self defence situation.


It is available from http://www.sangmookwan.com/index.php?mode=info&Page=49
(Check out the webiste as well... really good. I'd love to stay there and train someday!)

[Hapkidoin P]

That sounds pretty cool,Thomas.

I have seen some clips from IHF with GM Myung and was "wowed" by his fluid and effecient movement. I'll definitely be giving this DVD a go.

[nj_howard]

Thomas, excellent review, thanks.

Could you tell us the price of the dvd?

[MaxG]

Thomas, excellent review, thanks.

Could you tell us the price of the dvd?

The Hankido Basics-DVD costs $34.95 or €29.-
Discounts are available for schools that order 10 DVD's or more.

[Thomas]

For me to order from Korea to the US, the shipping was $5... for a total of $39.95USD.

As a student of Hankido, I would have paid more!!!
As an interested Hapkido student, this price is pretty good.

[hollywood1340]

Very Impressive. I still sometimes get stuck counting to 10 in Korean and I learned way back as a White Belt when I first started TKD.
Sorry for the terrible spelling!

"Hanna, Dul, Set.....Ahop Yul Learn to count!" HEHE

[nj_howard]

MaxG and Thomas, thanks for the price info.

Didn't realize the dvd is actually from Korea. Is all of the narrative in Korean, or is there any Enghlish?

[klaasb]

The DVD-menu is in English. Whenever something is being said on the DVD it has English subtitles.

Thomas, thank you for the great review you wrote about the DVD.

Guys from Belgium: Stop saying stupid things in Dutch. You are embarrasing your federation.

[Thomas]

The DVD-menu is in English. Whenever something is being said on the DVD it has English subtitles.

Thomas, thank you for the great review you wrote about the DVD.

Guys from Belgium: Stop saying stupid things in Dutch. You are embarrasing your federation.
Wow!!! I'll bet I know who you are! :)

I should have sent you an e-mail letting you know I was going to do a review here but couldn't resist sharing the treasure I had found. I hope you don't mind that I wrote a review and linked to the homepage (for potential buyers).

It's such a great DVD!!!!

[evilkingston]

Guys from Belgium: Stop saying stupid things in Dutch. You are embarrasing your federation.
no we are not...
I was going to let it pass, but: I didn't say anything in Dutch, strictly English
:rolleyes:

[fester]

Who was myong jea nam's master I can't seem to find it anywere? And its not Ji Han Jea, Choi maybe anyone?

[klaasb]

In the sixties Myung Jae Nam teamed up with Ji Han Jae's federation. And later received his 8th dan from Ji Han Jae.
Also the dan certificates from Myung's students from that area have Ji Han Jae's signature.

Myung Jae Nam came in touch with a Japanese aikido practioner (his name was Hihartha or something like that (I am not that good in Japanese names)) and after that also had meetings with Kishomaru Ueshiba (don't know if he ever met Morihei Ueshiba himself).

Before Myung Jae Nam came to Incheon he had studied an unnamed martial art in his birthplace with both his grandfather and a local instructor.

[BSR]

So what does "hankido" mean?

[klaasb]

Han comes from Han-kuk, which in Korean is the name for South Korea.

[BSR]

Han comes from Han-kuk, which in Korean is the name for South Korea.

So does it mean something like "the way of Korean ki"? :confused:

[Thomas]

As klassb is saying, "Han" (traditional) 'Gook" (people) is commonly used to mean Korea (and Koreans), it should be noted that the name "Tae Han Min Gook" is also used for "South Korea". Regardless, the "Han" refers to "traditional" or "national".

Although "Han", as the chinese character, also means "traditional" or even "national"... so I think there's a bit of wiggle room. Note that often when Han Ki Do is written, we see "Ki Do" written in Chinese characters and "Han" written in "old style" Korean (the "h" with the dot below it and then the "n")... giving a bit of a play on the fact that it is "traditional Korean".

[klaasb]

Myung Jae Nam gave this name to his art to signify his wish that it would be an art from which all the Koreans could benefit.

[Shadowlessform]

I still don't get what Han Ki DO is. There's a Han ki do place near my house. The Han Ki Do place also teaches taekwondo. Is Han ki do like aikido but a korean version of it. SHould I learn it?

[klaasb]

Hankido is hapkido heavily influenced by aikido.
The best way to find out what it is, is by giving it a try.
Than you can see if it is something for you.

[evilkingston]

Hankido is hapkido heavily influenced by aikido.
The best way to find out what it is, is by giving it a try.
Than you can see if it is something for you.

right on
btw: you will find that even if you've never practiced any MA before, you can always start with hankido
be like water

[Thomas]

For more details on Hankido, check out this site
http://www.sangmookwan.com/page/7/Hankido.html
...and check out the Wikipedia entries:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hankido (Thanks Klaas for the hard work in doing up the Wiki entries - they are really good!)


Hankido Basics 2 the DVD is out now. I just got mine in the mail but haven't watched it yet. After I do, I'll post up a review. The first DVD is awesome, the absolue best resource available out there for the art of Hankido... the 2nd one is put out by the same (awesome) people and gets into more great stuff. See http://www.sangmookwan.com/page/49/Hankido_DVD.html for details

[Thomas]

I just received a copy of Hankido Basics 2: Intermediate Self Defence, produced by SMK. It is the second DVD produced in the set, my review for the first one is above. I paid $34.90 USD and ordered it right from http://www.sangmookwan.com/page/49/Hankido_DVD.html It arrived about 2 weeks after ordering.

The DVD is very well set up, highlighting SMK's attention to detail and commitment to producing the best material they can. This DVD complements the first one very well and provides a nice continuation. Hats off to SMK and Klaas Barends for taking the time and effort to not only make unique reference material (the ONLY DVDs out there for Hankido) but also for sharing the art with a focus on high quality materials.

It mainly covers the how to apply the basic Hankido technqiues (so well explored in DVD 1) in self defence situations, but does open with another set of footwork drills to practice. Several sample scenarios are presented, e.g. two hands grabbing one wrist, two hands grabbing two wrists from the front, and two hands grabbing two wrists from the rear. For each scenario, GM Ko Baek Yong (see http://www.sangmookwan.com/page/3/Who.html ) shows how to apply all 12 Hankido techniques to the situation.

Each section opens up with vintage footage of Myong Jae Nam Kuksanim demonstrating defences against the various situations (the full set of footage is in the EXTRAs as well). Then GM Ko Baek Yong explains several principles of unbalancing and how to adpat to differences in puling, pushing, or static attacks. He explains it all very concisely and to the point and then goes into defences.

There is a section on 'Jeon Hwan Hwan Sang Do Bub' where the various technqiues are shown as a solo activity for purposes of individual practice (and they start with the technique being done to a live person, showing you can use them for solo or partner training).

The real beauty of this DVD is in the heart of the material. Where many training DVDs try to pack in a lot of diverse technqiues and glitz and glamor, the Hankido DVDs truly "focus on the basics" and tie the basic techniques into the basic footwork and into the basic adaptations you need to do to make this work for you. For people seeking a whole bunch of flash and quickly exposed variety, these aren't for you. If you want to explore the basic techniques and footwork of Hankido and see how all of the bits of unbalancing, subtle movements, big movements, reactions to opponents' energy and such works, these are well worth the purchase.

For me, my exposure to Hankido was fairly limited and the first DVD has been very helpful in helping me "learn" (and re-learn) the basics, at least superficially and given me ways to explore the art and try it out on willing partners. The second DVD takes it to another level, which for the most part is beyond my "basic" level. I like this because it gives me something more to think about and play with and further sharpens my desire to someday train more in-depth in the art. I can't wait to see what's next!


EXTRAS
To be honest, the extras alone were worth the price of the DVD for me.

1. There is a block of about 20 minutes of vintage footage of Myong Jae Nam Kuksanim applying Hankido in terms of self defence, with everything from various grabs, to punchs, to kick defences. Watching him in action is incredible and I like this footage even better than the "demo" footage on the previous disk (which is awesome as well).

2. There is a quick review of the basic 12 techniques of Hankido, a nice "quick" reference to use instead of having to wade through the more extensive (and deep) sections on the first DVD.

3. There is a short section on the basic strikes of Hankumdo which was really interesting. Although I have a tiny bit of exposure to Hankumdo from Korea, I really know very little about it. A future DVD on the strikes, footowrk, and whatever else goes along with it would be a welcome addition to the set, especially with SMK's very tight attention to details and quality editting. Even nicer would be if SMK followed previous work and added in vintage footage of Myong Jae Nam Kuksanim demonstrating it. How about a Hankumdo DVD?

Pros
-The production value is exceptional, with clear footage and "just enough" slow motion review.

-The material ties in nicely with DVD1 and truly represents an "intermediate" level of study that some people may not be ready for yet. It should be a nice reference for those who are.

-The footwork and application of the techniques should be of interest to Hapkido students and Aikido students, at least for a look at "another" way of doing things.

-Whatever language you speak, there is probably subtitles on this DVD for you.

-The "EXTRAs" are worth the price of the DVD alone!


Cons
- This DVD's menu is not as broken down as the first DVD, making quick access to some of the sections a little more difficult. Once you know where everything is though, it shouldn't be a problem.

-The DVDs cover the footwork, technqiues, falling and breathing quite well for the levels but there hasn't been any "striking" presented yet, although there is some in the vintage footage and in the self defence clips. Perhaps this will be address, if necessary, on a further DVD.

-There is a (too) short section on practicing with the middle length pole - but no real time is spent showing drills or how to use it. It's very interesting and I wish there had been a bit more time and depth on this (but I am glad to have it there instead of it being omitted.)

- With such great contributions to our libraries (DVDs 1 and 2), I hope SMK keeps making new material. I'd really like to see IHF Hapkido and Hankumdo DVDs down the road. Any chance of that?

[klaasb]

Thanks for the review Thomas.

For more theory about hankido and hankumdo you can always read these 160+ pages: http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasb/cmk-examen-alles.pdf
This might turn into a book one day. :)

[JimH]

Klaasb,
Wow,Thank you for that Great text.
Very Nice materials in it.
Much appreciated

[evilkingston]

yeah, bringing hankido back from page 3 or something
haven't been on MAP for a long time - busy training, redecorating, working, but... I'm back, browsing through some old threads I followed, reading up, and came across this...

In the sixties Myung Jae Nam teamed up with Ji Han Jae's federation. And later received his 8th dan from Ji Han Jae.
Also the dan certificates from Myung's students from that area have Ji Han Jae's signature.


question: I always believed Ji Han Jae received his 8th dan from Myung Jae Nam... Are you sure, or is it just a mixin' up of the names?

grtz