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Cross_Trainer
16-Sep-2004, 10:36 PM
I am a karate student, and after I have my art down better in another six months I am planning to cross-train to improve my hand techniques. Unfortunately, I live in a very small town and there are no boxing instructors remotely nearby. The only trainer who would be remotely qualified to teach this is a cardio kickboxing instructor at the local YMCA (since kickboxing is just karate plus boxing punches). I realize ahead of time that this would definitely NOT provide realistic boxing experiences, like sparring. I would ONLY be doing this to learn the movements (I can spar with them at my karate dojo, shadowbox at home, or practice with a punching bag). So my question is: is it even worth a try to learn this, or would I need a specialized boxing instructor to teach me?

Thank you for your time.

leeless
16-Sep-2004, 11:18 PM
Bah! I'm a bit drunk but I'll try to answer. Actually, no I'm not. I'm gonna wait till morning and edit my post.

Good Morning...

If you do the Kickboxing, you will improve your hand techniques. K-boxing uses (amazingly) BOXING techniques and footwork. Sure, it may not be as effective as doing pure boxing, but at least this way, you'll learn how to incorporate your legs with hand techniques, something that pure boxing won't teach you.

Ikken Hisatsu
16-Sep-2004, 11:25 PM
while a proper boxing instructor would be better, beggars cant be choosers.

alex_000
17-Sep-2004, 09:39 AM
Cardio or not , he must know something about boxing (so not true :D ) .

It depends on the guy.

Freeform
17-Sep-2004, 11:09 AM
Cardio or not , he must know something about boxing (so not true :D ) .

It depends on the guy.

Maybe not, an aerobics instructor at my girlfriends gym went on a day long course to qualify as a 'Turbo Kick' instructor, and is the first to admitt that she's just waving her arms around in the air.

Col

ap Oweyn
17-Sep-2004, 01:11 PM
Definitely depends on the person. If they have actual boxing experience, go for it. Otherwise don't bother.

Form follows function in boxing. And if the instructor has actually boxed, they'll understand the function and the form will follow. But if all they do is teach aerobics, then the function is different. The form will be too.

I was watching a little of Billy Blanks' taebo a while back. And their punches are designed to enhance a workout. Use a full range of motion, increase resistance, involve more muscle groups, whatever. They're NOT delivered the same way they would be in boxing. So if that's what you want to learn, you'll need to find someone who's actually used it properly.



Stuart

JKD guy
17-Sep-2004, 07:17 PM
Kickboxing offers the added advantage that it is closely related to Thai boxing. Thai boxing is excellent because you learn to use elbows. This is of course important in terms of self-defense. If I were you, I would do any [kick-]boxing I could.

As Marc MacYoung said, "I would rather fight an "expert martial artist", than a so-so boxer".

... that quote kind of says it all, doesn't it ?

alex_000
18-Sep-2004, 12:12 AM
Maybe not, an aerobics instructor at my girlfriends gym went on a day long course to qualify as a 'Turbo Kick' instructor, and is the first to admitt that she's just waving her arms around in the air.

Col

yea thats kind of what i said , maybe yes maybe not. I know a guy we did KB together who's promoting kickboxing aerobic. He is a fair fighter with exellent technique. Sometimes you do what you gotta do ...

johndoch
18-Sep-2004, 12:19 AM
if you dont actually spar with realistic punches then dont bother. your karate should be just as good.

Freeform
19-Sep-2004, 02:42 PM
yea thats kind of what i said , maybe yes maybe not. I know a guy we did KB together who's promoting kickboxing aerobic. He is a fair fighter with exellent technique. Sometimes you do what you gotta do ...


It pays the rent and puts food on the table.

alex_000
19-Sep-2004, 03:13 PM
indeed :D