Unkown Style

[Bruce Lee]

My family made a new martial arts style and never told ant=yone untill now.It is a mixture of every type of martial arts.What do you think this name for it should be because now boy really knows.It's been going on for decades.My dads family knows it though he just might teach me it.If they don't come up with a name then I will name it.Do you guys have any suggestions for the name?Is there a martial arts with alll the mixture into one?
Thanx for reading.

[dredleviathan]

How about Stavit!

[Cain]

zzzzz......

[khafra]

How 'bout the secret MysticDuy family system? That's how many branches of Kung Fu got started, isn't it? Surprised he managed to get every style of martial arts combined into one, though, that's quite an accomplishment.

So, for a defense against a front jab, would you use a technique from Aikido, Aiki-jutsu, American Kick Boxing, American Ninjutsu, Bando, Bok Pai, Boxing, Capoeira, Ch'a Ch'uan, Chi Hsuan Men, Ch'in-Na, Choy-Li-Fut, Cuong-Nhu, Escrima, Fong Ngan, Fu-Chiao Pai, Gangrel Fighting, Goju Ryu, Gracie Jujutsu, Greco-Roman Wrestling, Hapkido, Hsing-I Ch'uan, Hwarang-Do, Isshin-Ryu, Jeet Kune Do, Josondo, Judo, Jujutsu, Kalari, Kali, Karate, Kendo, Kenjutsu, Kempo, Kobujutsu, Kuialua, Kuk Sool Won, Kuntao, Kyokushinkai, Kyudo, Li-Chia, Mei Hua Zhang, Mien-Ch'uan, Moo Gi Gong, Muay Thai, Pa Kwa Chang, Pao Pat Mei, Pentjak Silat, Praying Mantis Kung Fu, Professional Wrestling, Sambo, Sankukai, Savate, Shao-Lin, Shorinji Kempo, Shotokan, Snake Style Kung Fu, Street/Commando Fighting, Sumai, Systema, Tae Kwon Do, Tai Chi, Taido, Tai-jutsu, Tai Sing, Pek Kwar, T'ang-Su, Te Ts'ui Pa Hsien, Uechi Ryu, White Eyebrow, White Tiger Kempo, Wing Chun, Wudong, Wui Wing Chun, Wu Shu, Xing Chiao, Yu-Sool, Zanji Shinjinken-Ryu, or one of the many other arts or variations of these?

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
My family made a new martial arts style and never told ant=yone untill now.It is a mixture of every type of martial arts.What do you think this name for it should be because now boy really knows.It's been going on for decades.My dads family knows it though he just might teach me it.If they don't come up with a name then I will name it.Do you guys have any suggestions for the name?Is there a martial arts with alll the mixture into one?
Thanx for reading.

It's impossible to mix all the martial arts into one. To do that you'd have to have trained in every martial art. Impossible.

I can list over 100 different martial arts systems off the top of my head from all over the world. If I sit and think about it, I can probably top 200. And that's still just the barest tip of the iceberg.

This is a completely useless post. And, again, your poll is useless, too. Which art is "best" for what? For sport? For jungle warfare? For urban warfare? For schoolyard fights? For corrections officers?

And then, what works best will differ from person to person. There is no real answer to your poll, same with your other poll about "who" is best. Waste of space.

The reasons I'm giving you are why you're getting such frivolous responses from others. You won't get serious discussion (aside from the posts I've made) out of this type of post.

Either you don't know any better and you need to take the time to educate yourself by reading through the threads here and, heaven forbid, actually going out and training somewhere.

Or you're a troll.

Either way, this is the last response you'll get from me unless you post something worth my time. I'm sure others will revel in taking potshots at you, though, if you continue to post these kinds of things. We have some people around here who are kind of sadistic in that way (and I mean that in the best possible way, of course, guys :) )

Mike

[Bruce Lee]

Only some of the martial arts they combined to see wich goes along together.And it is too posible.If you don't like anyones poll go somewhere else.I'm not mad but it just bothers me.And don't have to correct me all the time.No one is perfect.And don't pay attention to the polls alot the main subject is the thread.It is not a waist of threads.A waist of thread is like saying something like I like Pie.

[Melanie]

er well thanks "Bruce Lee" for your contribution. Would you please look at the rest of the forum and decide for yourself whether this forum is the sort to facilitate your training or not. Once decided please post to your hearts content with sensible subjects and responses or I could PM a few sites to you that you may find more "useful".

I appreciate hearing from a variety of people on topics relating to my beloved Martial Arts but please do not put off new members or people showing an interest in martial arts for the first time :)

[Chazz]

I would have to go with other... I dont think just one style is better than any other. A person can get different ides from different styles.

[Andy Murray]

Originally posted by Melanie
er well thanks "Bruce Lee" for your contribution. Would you please look at the rest of the forum and decide for yourself whether this forum is the sort to facilitate your training or not. Once decided please post to your hearts content with sensible subjects and responses or I could PM a few sites to you that you may find more "useful".

I appreciate hearing from a variety of people on topics relating to my beloved Martial Arts but please do not put off new members or people showing an interest in martial arts for the first time :)

Super Mod, Super Mod, Super Mod! :D

Lay off Bruce guys, he's my hero after all. I for one wanna hear more about this system that used to be a secret till he told everyone about it.

[Bruce Lee]

It is kind of confusing bu twill ask my dad to teach me the easy way to learn it and tell you guys.I should try to mix them up also but that would be hard.

[Bruce Lee]

How many moderators ae on this forum i was just wonderin and did you guys learn your type of martial arts bt trainer or book i did mine by book and it worked pretty good.

[hongkongfuey]

I would have thought it impossible to learn martial arts from a book (or several books). I started out by reading a book on Karate and practising myself. I got to what I thought was a 'pretty good standard'.

Then I joined a club and got my head kicked in!

I'd say, if you have managed to learn a lot from books, then get yourself down a local club to see if it really does work. Only by training with and sparring against other martial artists will you find this out.

[dredleviathan]

Ah-umm... cue dodgy Spanish accent....

" I lerne Kung-Foo from a boook!"

Then cue Bruce "Manuel" Lee being smashed on the head by a distinctly Pythonesque hotel manager!

[pgm316]

Books don't hit back! :D

Good to see Stavit proving its the number one style yet again! :)

[Bruce Lee]

Fine then I will prove that I will become really good at martial arts because of a book.I'll become greater than Bruce Lee someday.

[Cain]

I'm sure you will Bruce :D

|Cain|

[grandmaster mat]

i think there is not a good and a bad style, not fighter makes the style, the style does not make the fighter and i dont think anyone could be as dedicated to martial arts as bruce lee was m8.

[pgm316]

Maybe good or bad styles is the wrong way to put it, its never that black or white.

There are better and worse styles around, complicated by the fact that different styles better suit to different people.
Also better and worse students, teachers, clubs, equipment, training partners and everything! :D

[Freeform]

Fine then I will prove that I will become really good at martial arts because of a book.I'll become greater than Bruce Lee someday.



What?!? I thought you were Bruce Lee! Or's that just a pen name.

Anyway, shouldn't be to hard cause HE'S A CORPSE!!!

Unless of course you subscride to the theory that he's living on an island somewhere with Elvis, John Lennon and Rupert Murdock! ;)

Colin

[pgm316]

I suddenly got a lot better than Bruce Lee after his death incident, he was never the same after that!

[Saz]

Fine then I will prove that I will become really good at martial arts because of a book.

You're out of luck... Peter and Jane don't write martial arts books. They DO write books like 'Peter and Jane go to hospital', which is precisely where you will end up if you try and use book learnt MA on the street. Or anywhere for that matter

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Fine then I will prove that I will become really good at martial arts because of a book.I'll become greater than Bruce Lee someday.

Good luck on that.

But if you never train with other people, or test your skills against other martial artists, how will you be able to judge how good you are? How will anyone ever know how amazing you are?

In the Filipino arts, we use what we call a "learning triangle." This triangle is "see it, feel it, do it." This means that in order to effectively learn something, you have to (a) see it done correctly, (b) feel it done correctly, and (c) do it on a partner until you do it correctly.

With a book, you get none of these three elements. With a video, you get to see it done correctly, but it's flat and out of perspective (due to the nature of the medium).

Neither a book nor a video can ever present something to you from an another angle. What's on the film or in the pictures is all you have. Neither a book nor a video can do the technique properly on you. Neither a book nor a video can answer questions you have. Neither a book nor a video can correct what you're doing on a training partner.

And from the sounds of it, you don't even have a training partner. As such, you're not even getting to feel someone's guess about how the technique is done.

If you have a solid foundation, it's possible to learn some things from a book or video. But generally, you're just getting ideas that you can apply to what you already know. With no foundation, though, it's impossible to learn anything effectively from a book or video. You may get some moves down. And they may look really impressive. But the moment you try to use them against a person (either in sparring or in a fight), you're going to find that they don't work very well, if at all.

But, hey, don't take my word for it. Get your books, magazines, and videos; "train" until the cows come home. Don't let me stop you. I'm just a newbie in the martial arts and, obviously, I've been doing it completely wrong for a while now.

"Have fun storming the castle"* and let us know how you fare.

*For anyone who doesn't recognize this quote, go rent Princess Bride.

Mike

[dredleviathan]

"... you are a fantastic swordsman"

"Yes I know and that's just my left hand,. Actually I'm right handed"

Or something like that!

What a great film (well in some ways).


I am Don Dred del Leviathan... prepare to die!

[pesilat]

Originally posted by dredleviathan
"... you are a fantastic swordsman"

"Yes I know and that's just my left hand,. Actually I'm right handed"

Or something like that!

What a great film (well in some ways).


I am Don Dred del Leviathan... prepare to die!

"in some ways"? I loved that movie!!!

I forget the exact quote about the left handedness, but know what you're talking about. The other quote, though, is "My name is Inego Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Mike

[dredleviathan]

Yeah I loved it too but was just trying to maintain my hard man image!

I think I might learn to fence... and become a pirate... a dred (not dread) pirate!

This is kinda where the name came from... well sorta!

[dredleviathan]

OK so I am bored:

They begin to fight. Clang, clang, swish. Clang, clang, swish. Ting-ting-ting, ting-ting. Ting, ting, ting.

Inigo: You are using Bonetti's defense against me, uh?

Man In Black: I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

Inigo: Naturally, you must expect me to attack with Capo Ferro.

Man In Black: Naturally, but I find that Thibault cancels out Capo Ferro, don't you? Jumps down.

Inigo: Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa, Jumps after him. which I have! Pause. You are wonderful!

Man In Black: Thank you. I've worked hard to become so.

Inigo: I admit it, you are better than I am.

Man In Black: Then why are you smiling? Forces Inigo toward the cliff's edge.

Inigo: Because I know something you don't know.

Man In Black: And what is that?

Inigo: I am not left-handed. Switches hands, they begin to move up the stairs.

Man In Black: You're amazing!

Inigo: I ought to be after twenty years. Begins to force Man in Black toward a balcony. His body moves the rocks.

Man In Black: There is something I ought to tell you.

Inigo: Tell me.

Man In Black: I'm not left-handed either.Switches hands and flourishes sword.
The Man in Black knocks Inigo's sword from his hand. Inigo jumps down to retrieve it. The Man in Black tosses his sword into a patch of grass. He flips over a beam and lands next to his sword, plucking it from the ground.

Inigo: Who are you?

Man In Black: No one of consequence.

Inigo: I must know.

Man In Black: Get used to disappointment.

Inigo: Shrugs. Okay.
They continue to fight until the Man In Black knocks Inigo's sword from his hands.

Inigo: Kneeling. Kill me quickly.

Man In Black: Circling Inigo. I would as soon destroy a stained-glass window as an artist like yourself. However, since I can't have you following me either....

The Man In Black hits Inigo over the head with the hilt of his sword. Inigo hits the ground, out cold.

Man In Black: Please understand I hold you in the highest respect. Runs off.

[pesilat]

You da man, dred! I assume you went out and found the script somewhere?

That is among my favorite scenes from the movie. Of course, the whole movie is kind of one big favorite scene for me :)

Mike

[stump]

Could somebody ban this **** please? The crap he posted was funny for a few seconds...now it's getting tiresome

[Brad Ellin]

Okay, first your dad teaches you a new and completely unknown style of the martial arts, one that combines the best of all other styles/schools of martial arts. A secret, until you told us.
Then you say you learned it from a book. Which is it? A book your father wrote? Have you ever had to use your art in a life or death situation? Have you ever had a broken bottle waved in your face, and were able to walk away with out pooping your pants? Ever had a loudmouth spitting and screaming at you and able to calm him down, not by threats, but by talking him down? Ever hit someone? Something? Broken a finger doing it?
You can try and learn a martial art by reading a book. But are you actually learning anything? Without going put and working with someone more knowledgable that you, more experienced than you, all you are really doing is "reading" a book about learning the martial arts.

[dredleviathan]

Yep time to 'fess up... kangaroo court in session... Judge Dred (and MAP co) presiding!

[pesilat]

Actually, if you reread his posts (torturous as it may be), he never claimed to have trained with his dad. His dad, apparently, lives in Indiana and, I assume, Bruce lives somewhere else.

I got the impression he's never trained with anyone in anything. He's just read books.

Mike

[pgm316]

We need the..... erm... can't think of the word.

To generate some debate, his threads have been curiously popular! ;)

[Brad Ellin]

You're right Mike, my mistake.
I get the same impression. Someone who knows nothing except what they've read (surprise!) and thinks because they read it in a book, it's true. Well, unfortunately we have a lot of that. Bet we even have people one this forum, that because someone posted it here, it must be true. It might be, but (except in areas of someone's personal experience) I read something here, and research it else where if it does not ring true, or if it just plain interests me. I have learned a lot from most everyone here, but I have also learned how many more mis-informed people there are. (a heck of a lot more than I imagined!)

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Kurohana
You're right Mike, my mistake.
I get the same impression. Someone who knows nothing except what they've read (surprise!) and thinks because they read it in a book, it's true. Well, unfortunately we have a lot of that. Bet we even have people one this forum, that because someone posted it here, it must be true. It might be, but (except in areas of someone's personal experience) I read something here, and research it else where if it does not ring true, or if it just plain interests me. I have learned a lot from most everyone here, but I have also learned how many more mis-informed people there are. (a heck of a lot more than I imagined!)

How right you are. For every legitimate player out here with some real skill and ability, there are at least 10 "keyboard warriors" spouting nonsense in a very authoritative manner.

But that's kind of the nature of the beast. People say all kinds of things when given access to anonymity.

Mike

[pgm316]

Even if they don’t spout nonsense, it doesn’t mean they can do what they say. Its easy to be knowledgably, but without the ability you can’t add much to a debate like this except the stereotypical responses!

[Brad Ellin]

All too true. Without being able to back up what I say, knowing unless I wanted too and made the effort, I could make all sorts of outrageous claims, and who could say with certainty that I wasn't full of fecal matter? Having said that, if you ever find yourself in the Washington DC area, drop me and email and I'll show you around.

[Bruce Lee]

If you guys wanna know where my dad lives I have to first ask him.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
If you guys wanna know where my dad lives I have to first ask him.

Absolutely. I wouldn't expect anything less. And, as I said, feel free to PM me to keep it out of public view.

Unless, of course, he's a public instructor with a school. In which case, you could just tell me the school's name (which would be public info).

Or, you could forward your dad this link: http://www.impactacademy.com and have him contact me.

or you could forward your dad this link: http://www.impactacademy.com/seminars/flyers/muncie_flyer and he could come meet me there (and train with me if he's interested).

Mike

[Cougar_v203]

*cough*yea right*cough* :)

[Bruce Lee]

Waht are you coughin about Cougar_v203?

[HKD]

what R U going to do today bruce?
"the same thing i do every day pinkie, plot to take over the world"

[Bruce Lee]

Hey my dad might just be able to but he is kind of busy with his works and he lives in Indiana I think Im not sure , if you really wanna know then I can tell you.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Hey my dad might just be able to but he is kind of busy with his works and he lives in Indiana I think Im not sure , if you really wanna know then I can tell you.

Yup. That's why I mentioned the workshop in Muncie, Indiana next weekend.

Mike

[JediMasterChris]

He lives in indiana?! That's great! I just moved here from S.A, a town called Bloomington! I would love to have your dad train me!





Bruce everyone agree's with me they just won't say it. I am not as mature as they are fortunately so I will just say it. You are a liar! :love:there ya' go! But if you really are interested in learning The Arts stick around at the forum, alot of the people here know their stuff and can tell you where to go to learn them, but you are a horrible liar so just admit you were wrong and give real martial arts a try, not just from a book. Then you won't have to lie. Do a google search on some local dojo's and find a qualified instructor and give it a go. :D

[tyciol]

How 'bout the secret MysticDuy family system? That's how many branches of Kung Fu got started, isn't it? Surprised he managed to get every style of martial arts combined into one, though, that's quite an accomplishment.

So, for a defense against a front jab, would you use a technique from Aikido, Aiki-jutsu, American Kick Boxing, American Ninjutsu, Bando, Bok Pai, Boxing, Capoeira, Ch'a Ch'uan, Chi Hsuan Men, Ch'in-Na, Choy-Li-Fut, Cuong-Nhu, Escrima, Fong Ngan, Fu-Chiao Pai, Gangrel Fighting, Goju Ryu, Gracie Jujutsu, Greco-Roman Wrestling, Hapkido, Hsing-I Ch'uan, Hwarang-Do, Isshin-Ryu, Jeet Kune Do, Josondo, Judo, Jujutsu, Kalari, Kali, Karate, Kendo, Kenjutsu, Kempo, Kobujutsu, Kuialua, Kuk Sool Won, Kuntao, Kyokushinkai, Kyudo, Li-Chia, Mei Hua Zhang, Mien-Ch'uan, Moo Gi Gong, Muay Thai, Pa Kwa Chang, Pao Pat Mei, Pentjak Silat, Praying Mantis Kung Fu, Professional Wrestling, Sambo, Sankukai, Savate, Shao-Lin, Shorinji Kempo, Shotokan, Snake Style Kung Fu, Street/Commando Fighting, Sumai, Systema, Tae Kwon Do, Tai Chi, Taido, Tai-jutsu, Tai Sing, Pek Kwar, T'ang-Su, Te Ts'ui Pa Hsien, Uechi Ryu, White Eyebrow, White Tiger Kempo, Wing Chun, Wudong, Wui Wing Chun, Wu Shu, Xing Chiao, Yu-Sool, Zanji Shinjinken-Ryu, or one of the many other arts or variations of these?

At least half of the arts you've listed are fictional martial arts from the RPG Ninas and Superspies and its sourcebook Mystic China...so it's a joke art?

[pauli]

hello there, 2003! how's it going? what? gas is over $2 a gallon? that's rough, dude.

[Yohan]

At least half of the arts you've listed are fictional martial arts from the RPG Ninas and Superspies and its sourcebook Mystic China...so it's a joke art?

Nice threadomancy.

[ap Oweyn]

At least half of the arts you've listed are fictional martial arts from the RPG Ninas and Superspies and its sourcebook Mystic China...so it's a joke art?

I don't know whether to applaud you for admitting to be an RPG player or flog you for resurrecting this donkey of a thread.