Jeet Kune Do techniques

[Bruce Lee]

Hi I'm a beginer and would like to know how to leanr Jeet Kune Do.I only know SOME stuff.If you know any skills and technique for Jeet Kune Do can you please tell me?I would like to know how really bad!I'm also a big fan of Bruce Lee.So if you know anything anout Jeet KUne Do please tell me.Oh Ya!Is there a website that lets you download a manual for Jeet KUne Do?How did Bruce Lee die was it a curse?

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Hi I'm a beginer and would like to know how to leanr Jeet Kune Do.I only know SOME stuff.If you know any skills and technique for Jeet Kune Do can you please tell me?I would like to know how really bad!I'm also a big fan of Bruce Lee.So if you know anything anout Jeet KUne Do please tell me.Oh Ya!Is there a website that lets you download a manual for Jeet KUne Do?How did Bruce Lee die was it a curse?

Oh man. We really ought to put together a FAQ for this type of thing.

First, find an instructor.

Second, there is no "manual" for JKD. There is The Tao of Jeet Kune Do, but that's not a manual. It's a collection Bruce's notes that were collected and published after his death.

Third, no, it wasn't a curse. It was brain edema. No one, to my knowledge, has figured out specifically what caused it. There may have been a combination of causes. But I believe that an allergic reaction to some medication he took may have contributed.

Fourth, if you run a search, I'm sure you'll find several very lengthy threads for this.

As for the poll ... "anyone can beat anyone else on any given day" ... esepcially when one of them is dead. Unless you're talking about being a better actor or making better movies. Then you'll find some debate, but there still has to be some caveat granted to Bruce since he's been dead 30 years and movies in general have come a long way since his time.

Questions like "who's better" are very fruitless. Everyone may or may not post their opinion, but there's no debate. Only pointless arguing that can't be proven one way or another. Even when you're comparing, say, two UFC fighters. To say one is "better" requires very specific criteria. One may be better a striking, but the other may be better at grappling. Or, if no criteria are presented, one may be better in the ring, but the other may be a better at chess outside the ring.

Not trying to bust your chops, but these types of questions can get old and annoying after a while. Take a look around the site, there's a lot of good advice around here, and a lot of good discussions that you may be able to join in and share (newbie or not, you probably have some knowledge that can help someone else).

Mike

[Cain]

Why is'nt my name on the list? I can kick everyone's a$$ :D

Anyways, take more notice at Mike's post than mine :D

|Cain|

[Andy Murray]

Just added a couple of options to the poll, hope you don't mind Bruce!

[pgm316]

Damn it, I voted before my mother was added. She's studied stavit!

[dredleviathan]

Some respect please gentlemen. Si Gung Bruce himself is now posting on this humble forum... he didn't die afterall he just moved to Florida.

Sifu Lee let be the first to welcome you. I notice that you are testing us all with you questions:

Jeet Kune Do As you yourself said JKD is not a style and as such cannot have specific techniques. JKD is a concept for personal expresion. You nearly caught with that one you wiley old man!

Is there a website that lets you download a manual for Jeet KUne Do Again a great question. Obviously after all this time hiding in the Everglades you woudl be keen to protect your copyright against anybody postin entire manuals on the web. Clever to pretend to be an interested newbie!

How did Bruce Lee die was it a curse? I see you're still interested in the public's perception of how you died. Again clever... obviously you are just priming us for your miraculous emergence from exile with the 'gators.

By the way since I've been so clever myself and worked out your clever ruse is there any chance that you will train me personally and promote me above all these other wannabes? Preferably in one simple mail order video lesson...

[Cain]

I voted for me :D

|Cain|

[treecat]

Just to let you know you spelt Jet Li wrong.

[Cain]

Who's Bruce li?

|Cain|

[pesilat]

Originally posted by cain_charlie
Who's Bruce li?

|Cain|

He was one of the dozens who was brought out as a Bruce Lee clone shortly after Bruce's death. Of course, it was the idea of the film companies not of the actors. But some actors were forced to change their names to more closely resemble "Bruce Lee."

Even Jackie Chan was portrayed as the "next Bruce Lee" for a while until he found (or maybe "carved" is a more appropriate term) his own niche as a comedic martial arts actor.

After Bruce's death, a lot of film companies (mostly in China) were looking for the "next Bruce Lee." Another that comes to my mind is "Bruce Le." But there were a whole slew of them in the mid 70s.

Mike

[Bruce Lee]

Inmy area I don't have an instructor what should I do??Go to another state(no).Can you help me and pesilat do you work at impactacademy or something?I was just curios.

[hongkongfuey]

There must be a lot of Martial Arts clubs in Florida! I wouldnt get hung up on whether you are learning Kung Fu, Karate, Taekwondo, Kickboxing etc. As Bruce Lee himself said, a punch is just a punch ....

I've been to classes in many different Chinese, Japanese and Korean styles. What matters is not the style you pick, but the instructor who teaches it.

Why not try out some clubs, and if you like one - stick with it.

[Bruce Lee]

I'll just pick a club its still self defense.

[Cain]

Originally posted by pesilat


He was one of the dozens who was brought out as a Bruce Lee clone shortly after Bruce's death. Of course, it was the idea of the film companies not of the actors. But some actors were forced to change their names to more closely resemble "Bruce Lee."

Even Jackie Chan was portrayed as the "next Bruce Lee" for a while until he found (or maybe "carved" is a more appropriate term) his own niche as a comedic martial arts actor.

After Bruce's death, a lot of film companies (mostly in China) were looking for the "next Bruce Lee." Another that comes to my mind is "Bruce Le." But there were a whole slew of them in the mid 70s.

Mike

Oh I see, thanx, first I thought you meant to be sarastic, but I see you were serious, sorry about the misunderstanding though

Going a bit off-topic it seems they have already labelled most stars like Jackie Chan, JCVD and Jet Li as 'the next Bruce Lee'

@Bruce Lee,

Do the right thing and take their advice -

Join a martial arts school which is based in your area, it does'nt matter too much as to which one, it will help you with the basics, and you will enjoy it trust me ;)

|Cain|

[YODA]

Hey Bruce


...... www.onedragon.com

[Bruce Lee]

I know.I am.

[dredleviathan]

I know you are but what am I?

[Bruce Lee]

?????
Well I am going to find a class.Probaly
of taikwon doe

[Andy Murray]

Hey, taikwon doe is awesome. I wish there was a class on my planet. Respect duuuuude!!!

[pgm316]

Isn't that all kicking people in the ears? I'd choose one of the many king foo styles, much better! :)

[Bruce Lee]

Who cares about the style.It still teaches you self defense.

[YODA]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Who cares about the style.It still teaches you self defense.



Bwaaahahahahahaa........ If only.

[Bruce Lee]

If only?What do each martial arts have weakneses and you can tell wich one is better?

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
If only?What do each martial arts have weakneses and you can tell wich one is better?

I personally believe that each art has merit. And that, originally, they were intended for combative purposes.

However, a lot of schools out there today claim self-defense while teaching aerobics. I would guess that in most areas, only 1 in about 50 schools are teaching anything worthy of the "self-defense" designation. And I'm probably being generous, especially for some regions.

And while Tae Kwon Do schools have one of the worst reps for being non-SD oriented, they're far from the only people claiming SD and teaching something else entirely. And there are good TKD schools out there.

If you're sincere about wanting to train, then I wish you luck in finding a good instructor.

But, really, self-defense should be one of your last concerns when looking for a place to train because if you don't like the instructor or the classes, then you won't stick around even if they're teaching the "best" (however that's measured) system in the world.

I would agree that a lot of schools will give you a good foundation in the principles of movement, even if what they're teaching isn't really self-defense. Once you have that foundation, then you will have a better eye for what is and isn't self-defense. Then you can go looking for what you really want.

It's very rare that someone gets lucky enough to find the perfect school for them when they first start training. IMHO, it's better to find a place you enjoy training. Once you've got some seasoning, then you can seek out the "perfect" place for yourself.

But if you're seriously looking for self-defense, then (a) you need to have some idea of what self-defense is so you'll know it when you see it and (b) you're not likely to find it at your nearby corner TKD school (though, if you're incredibly lucky, it might actually be there, but the odds are against it).

Mike

[YODA]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
If only?What do each martial arts have weakneses and you can tell wich one is better?

Yes.

[Bruce Lee]

But it depends on the instrucor and you right.

[dredleviathan]

Bruce,

I thought your family had its own secret style that blended every other martial art? Why do you need to train elsewhere?

[Bruce Lee]

Well my dad knows it and he lives in indiana im not going to indiana just to learn that.He might come down here and he might have the time.

[dredleviathan]

If only your Dad had written a book huh?

[grandmaster mat]

i baught "bruce lee-the legend" on film a while ago, its a documentary of his life and death and the things that happened after his death, the night before he died he had a headache and he got given a headache tablet and he died from it, the post mortum said that the cause was he has too much of something that was in the tablet (cant remember wat the thing was) and he died from it, thats wat it said anyway, and an interesting fact was he died in another womans bed!, the woman (his friend) said that he was there because he led down after feeling tired and having a head ache but there was rumours that he died while they were having sex which i think is untrue.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by grandmaster mat
i baught "bruce lee-the legend" on film a while ago, its a documentary of his life and death and the things that happened after his death, the night before he died he had a headache and he got given a headache tablet and he died from it, the post mortum said that the cause was he has too much of something that was in the tablet (cant remember wat the thing was) and he died from it, thats wat it said anyway, and an interesting fact was he died in another womans bed!, the woman (his friend) said that he was there because he led down after feeling tired and having a head ache but there was rumours that he died while they were having sex which i think is untrue.

She wasn't just a friend, though. She was an actress and they were reviewing a script (or something along those lines). I doubt they were having sex when he died. As far as I know, he was fully clothed when they got there. I doubt she could have put his clothes back on him if he were dead. Though, I suppose, it is possible that they weren't having intercourse and she only had to zip and button some things.

I personally doubt they were doing anything of the sort. But even if they were, so what? Bruce was an incredible martial artist and a so-so actor, not an icon of morality. I'm sure, he was far from perfect in a lot of ways. He's been dead for 30 years now. There's nothing left to research except the reports that have been gone over with a thousand fine toothed combs.

Boy, reading through what I just wrote, it comes out kinda strong. Don't know why. Didn't intend it that way, just making some observations.

Mike

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Well my dad knows it and he lives in indiana im not going to indiana just to learn that.He might come down here and he might have the time.

Where's your dad in Indiana? I'd be interested in checking out this "unkown system." I'm always interested in learning new things. I grew up in Indiana and have been involved in the martial arts around the Indiana region for over 20 years. What's your dad's name? Maybe I've heard of him. Send a PM if you don't want to answer these publicly.

Mike

[pgm316]

Originally posted by pesilat


She wasn't just a friend, though. She was an actress and they were reviewing a script (or something along those lines). I doubt they were having sex when he died. As far as I know, he was fully clothed when they got there. I doubt she could have put his clothes back on him if he were dead. Though, I suppose, it is possible that they weren't having intercourse and she only had to zip and button some things.

I personally doubt they were doing anything of the sort. But even if they were, so what? Bruce was an incredible martial artist and a so-so actor, not an icon of morality. I'm sure, he was far from perfect in a lot of ways. He's been dead for 30 years now. There's nothing left to research except the reports that have been gone over with a thousand fine toothed combs.

Boy, reading through what I just wrote, it comes out kinda strong. Don't know why. Didn't intend it that way, just making some observations.

Mike

I've read some reports that claim quite strongly that he was having an affair with the women in question, like he had with other actresses before.

Some reports also claim that it was eating large amounts of canabis that killed him, having previously had a bad reaction to it before. Apparently Chinese people are more sensitive to this problem than most western people.

Does it really matter how he died :confused: I only have a passing interest in it, its how he lived that counted ;) Likewise with the moral issues! :eek:

[pesilat]

Originally posted by pgm316


I've read some reports that claim quite strongly that he was having an affair with the women in question, like he had with other actresses before.

Some reports also claim that it was eating large amounts of canabis that killed him, having previously had a bad reaction to it before. Aparantly Chinese people are more sensitive to this problem than most western people.

Does it really matter how he died :confused: I only have a passing interest in it, it show he lived that counted ;) Likewise with the moral issues! :eek:

From what I've heard, there was no more canabis in his system than might be gotten from drinking an herbal tea that contained it.

Mike

[Bruce Lee]

Then what is this touch of death thing.In one of a movie bruce lee's friend said that he died from the touch of death and sombody murdered him.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Then what is this touch of death thing.In one of a movie bruce lee's friend said that he died from the touch of death and sombody murdered him.

The general theory is that that's a bunch of bunk and hype.

Whether you believe in the "death touch" or not is a whole different issue. Most of it, in my research, has been illusion that plays on superstition. Or it was something not understood at the time but easily explainable by todays medical standards.

No, Bruce died from a brain edema. What caused the edema has never been fully resolved. But I don't think a "death touch" was involved.

Mike

[Bruce Lee]

Man that sucks nobody figured out the cause of his death that sucks brain dema, touch of death, curse,my mom kids around by saying chicken pocks.

[HKD]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Inmy area I don't have an instructor what should I do??Go to another state(no).Can you help me and pesilat do you work at impactacademy or something?I was just curios.
if there is no instructor then U can't learn JKD or anyother art. U can't learn from books U cant learn for fourm posts. U can get videos but if U don't have real training to fall back on U can't learn that way eather. find an art U like where U can find and instructor to teach U.

[HKD]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Hi How did Bruce Lee die was it a curse?
bruc lee did not die of a curse
he died of a brain aneurysm

HKD

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Can you help me and pesilat do you work at impactacademy or something?I was just curios.

Umm ... well, yeah. If you go to the website and you look around, you'll see that "Guru/Sensei Mike Casto" is the head instructor at I.M.P.A.C.T. Academy. If you notice in the signature of all my posts, I am "Mike Casto." :) I.M.P.A.C.T. Academy is my school - currently the school is in its infancy and classes are taught in my way-too-small living room. I hope to remedy that within 6 months or so.

Mike

[HKD]

bruce lee did alot of extreme things when he was training which i think had something to do with his aneurysm
HKD

[Bruce Lee]

Can he jump like 5-6 ft high.

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Can he jump like 5-6 ft high.

Who? Bruce Lee? Kinda hard to jump at all when supine in a box under 6' of earth. :)

Mike

[pgm316]

Originally posted by pesilat


Who? Bruce Lee? Kinda hard to jump at all when supine in a box under 6' of earth. :)

Mike

Hard for a normal person Mike! :D

[r4bid]

pesilat: you just made me fall out of my chair and hit my head on my desk when I was getting back up!

[br00ster]

hi,

As for brain edema's ,curses etc....pffft!!!

We all know it was a clan of Okinawan ninja's!!!!

[HKD]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Can he jump like 5-6 ft high.

how old R U?

[Freeform]

I feel a poll coming on.....

[HKD]

Originally posted by br00ster
hi,

As for brain edema's ,curses etc....pffft!!!

We all know it was a clan of Okinawan ninja's!!!!

HHMMMMM, thats very interesting

HKD

[pesilat]

Originally posted by r4bid
pesilat: you just made me fall out of my chair and hit my head on my desk when I was getting back up!

LOL. That's my chi at work. I can knock you down and hurt you without even seeing you, much less touching you ;)

Mike

[pesilat]

Originally posted by HKD


how old R U?

This one's been answered by him previously. I believe the answer is 11 (though I may be a year or so off), right Bruce?

Mike

[wayofthedragon]

Oh My God, I'm gon for just a few weeks and look at everything I've missed. Someone how'about begin to update me on things thru PM or something. All these new people all these new threads. What's MP coming to:eek:

[HKD]

Originally posted by pesilat


This one's been answered by him previously. I believe the answer is 11 (though I may be a year or so off), right Bruce?

Mike

oh, ok now i see

[Bruce Lee]

Why is everybody askin me age.
I feel stupid. :(

[pesilat]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
Why is everybody askin me age.
I feel stupid. :(

Don't feel stupid.


stupid: lack of intelligence or, in my personal usage, "knowing better and doing it anyway."



ignorant: having little knowledge, education, or experience


The reason people are asking is because of the way you write your posts.

If you were 25 and writing the posts you do, then we might consider you stupid. At 11, your posts, and the way they're written, make perfect sense.

You're ignorant (not intended as an insult, just a fact).

There's nothing wrong with ignorance. The fact that you're out here trying to learn things means you're trying to overcome your ignorance. That's noble, and the opposite of stupid.

A quote I got from my instructor, "We can fix ignorance. Nothing we can do about stupidity."

It helps us to know your age (at least in a general sense) and background. By knowing it, we know that you're not a troll. You're just a newbie trying to get educated.

Don't be offended when someone asks your age, it really does help us in responding properly to your questions.

Mike

[HKD]

very good answer pesilat, and bruce don't feel stupid we all are some times at least U have the nurve to ask the questions that U want to know answers to a stupid person wont ask cuz he doesn't want to sound stupid, then he does stupid things cuz he didn't ask.

HKD

[pesilat]

Originally posted by HKD
a stupid person wont ask cuz he doesn't want to sound stupid, then he does stupid things cuz he didn't ask.

HKD

Or, more often (in my experience), a stupid person won't ask questions because they think they know the answer already.

Mike

[HKD]

more often than not.
Ur batting a 1000 today pesilat

HKD

[pesilat]

Originally posted by HKD
more often than not.
Ur batting a 1000 today pesilat

HKD

LOL. Just doing the best I can, as usual. Some days I gets da bear; some days da bear gets me :)

Mike

[Solane]

Yes at age 11 you tend to want to know the answer straight away. With age comes patience, or it generally does : )

Bruce I would suggest that you have a good look through the other posts as you may find the answer you are looking for with out needing to ask. If not ask away.

Solane

[Bruce Lee]

Sure O.K. Thanks Guys/Girls

[ff_mattjones]

I have studied JKD for quite some time now and in my opinion I have found that there are no real "specific" techniques for it.
Bruce's techniques came mainly from his original style of gung fu-kung fu. and plus the many other stlyes he studies so basicly
the way I perceive JKD is apply JKD's "methods" to your own style
,mine being tae kwon do.but don't stop with any style
forget the style make the martial arts in a whole become part of you... I go to a Tae kwon do school every day for training but I do not practice just their methods that limits I extend my lessons far beyond those of a traditional martial artist!!!!

-matt

[Bruce Lee]

I now dont pay attention to the type of styles I just go to the nearest center of martial arts and just practice.

[YODA]

Originally posted by Bruce Lee
I now dont pay attention to the type of styles I just go to the nearest center of martial arts and just practice.

:D Sounds like a plan :D

[Seperoth3333]

Ok! Havent you people ever saw the movie "Dragon". Bruce Lee died. On that move the girls says every want to know how he died but I rather prefer how he lived. He started his on jkd over here andd hade to fight for his right to do so. Well I know it wasnt a curse. It was some thing else. I dont know what bout they said it was a mysterus coma he whent into.

[HKD]

he had a reaction to some med.'s he got from a friend and died a few days later. he had been sick for a while B 4 that and the med. brought him to the end.

[tradwarrior]

Jeet Kune Do is the art of the intercepting fist.. (The theories / concepts is based on intercepting the opponent..) - JeetKuneDo is a great martial art , but it was never completed since it's master Bruce Lee (the creator of the art) died.. Since the death of Bruce Lee (two opposite sides have been made) The Jeet Kune Do Concepts side (which they re based on the concepts and ideas of bruce lee , and they keep growing using their mind/training/tehniques based on the theories/ideas of Bruce Lee). The other side with [Jun Fan GungFu - Jeet Kune Do] teaching the "style?! hmm..no art? no - dunno how to call it!" like it has been taught by Bruce Lee at the point before his death.. Jeet Kune Do is a mix of many martial arts based on wing chun gungfu covering each art the weakness of the other. And about the poll (You can't say one fighter is better than another because they have never faught , and one can be better than an other thru hard training) - But i believe Bruce Lee was a smart guy with bright ideas and HUGE knowledge...and maybe the best?! we can't be sure! Enjoy your life , keep walking!

[Bruce Lee]

Hey YODA it isn't a plan. Just telling you that.

[Greg-VT]

Just wondering, and I hope it is'nt a problem posting it here. It seems to fit into the current discussion. (Life of Bruce Lee)

Has anyone read the biography "Bruce Lee: Fighting Spirit" By Bruce Thomas (I think that the author)??

If anyone has, I would just like to know what you thought about it compared to other Bruce Lee biographies you may have read.

As for me, I have'nt read any others. But I found It to be a good read, and I believe it's going to be the closest thing to the truth about his life without bias.

Tah

[kazgeroth]

The Art of Expressing The Human Body is what me and my friends beleive bruce was trying to create before his death.

About the only difference between The Art of Expressing the Human Body and Jeet Kune Do is Jeet Kune Do is setup to be a style. The Art of Expressing the Human Body isn't a style. Styles limit someone....a person in a style is trained to do certain things at certain times, when they get in a situation they haven't trained for or weren't expecting basically they get ****ed in the asswhole cause they rely on the same techniques they can't adapt as well.
There trained a certain way and thats that. Well in a fight people are always trying to predict there opponents, "You must first learn to predict your opponent before you can truly understand our style, blah blah blah." A fight is unpredictable so how can you predict what is unpredictable, you must train yourself to react and adapt to the situation. You need to train yourself to the point where you can throw a punch without concentrating on it, you must never focus, just let your mind think what it want's to think. As soon as your focusing on someones punch, "I'm going to block there straight punch." You are committed to blocking it, if the straight punch was a faint and right behind it he threw a left cross...Bang your focused on the straight your not going to see the left cross.

Learning to Express yourself: If you wan't to hit someone in the nose you hit them in the nose you express yourself, you don't take the time to **** back your fist you throw the punch from where your fist is. If my fist was at my waist I would throw the punch from there therefore expressing myself. If I bring my fist up then throw the punch I am no longer expressing myself because I got off track I did something before I hit you in the nose.

[Andy Murray]

I'm not sure that Bruce realised his death was around the corner.

About the only difference between The Art of Expressing the Human Body and Jeet Kune Do is Jeet Kune Do is setup to be a style.

Please explain how you feel JKD was 'setup' to be a style.

Styles limit someone....a person in a style is trained to do certain things at certain times, when they get in a situation they haven't trained for or weren't expecting basically they get ****ed in the asswhole cause they rely on the same techniques they can't adapt as well.

Can you give any example(s) where this has happened?

[kazgeroth]

Jeet Kune Do is "The way of the intercepting fist.' Thats its rough translation. I mean bruce does say, "Have no way as way, and no limitation as limitation." those two statements are somewhat contradictoring aren't they? What I think he was trying to do with jeet kune do was create the perfect style which he later realized no style can be perfect.

An example of how styles are limiting. I'll take a basic glance at this karate school in town. They throw there punches from the hips. They have to be in the exact same stance. There machines, they have to do things a certain way. I sparred one of them every time he threw a punch it came from almost the EXACT same spot. Because he trained you throw it, "like this."

[YODA]

Because he trained you throw it, "like this."

So - let's say you have a total novice. How do YOU teach him to punch without teaching him to punch "like this?"

[Cain]

I'll take a basic glance at this karate school in town. They throw there punches from the hips.

Do they really while sparring? :confused:

If I did that I would have a black eye by mow ;)

|Cain|

[kazgeroth]

You teach them to get power (i prefer to drive my hip into it) what you don't teach them is to throw punches only from certain positions, you need to be able to throw them from any feasable position. When I train on the heavy bag I try not to throw my punches in the same locations and positions. I should be able to throw a punch if my fist was laying on my leg without raising my hand and throwing the punch from a certain spot, it should flow from where it is. The key is to not get into patterns or set positions.

Yes they really throw there punchis from the hips there elbows have to be touching there sides and there fists pointed towards the opponent, there stance has the left foot and lead foot pointing towards the opponent with the leed knee raised up. Its blocky robotic and crappy as hell. They have to think about there stance and making sure there throwing there punches from the right spot I don't even know how they can spare. No wonder it takes someone at that school 5 years to get even decent.

[SilentSword]

Just to let you all know....
I was watching a documentary on Bruce Lee's career and it said that he died from an allergic reaction to hashish that made his brain swell. So that clears up everything about it being a great mystery of how he died. About the subject of whether he died from an assassination or just from "misadventure", that is still unknown and can never be proven either way. My personal theory is that it was an assassination, because on the documentary Bruce's personal doctor had said that he had come in for the same reason that had killed him once before. Knowing that, I'd assume that he'd never smoke hashish again. They also, strangely, found 1 milligram of hashish in his stomach as well. That personally confused me, but it also made me question whether he was drunk when he smoked it. They had said that he was having an affair with another woman and was with her at the time of him smoking the hashish. This could have either been a misadventure, or a planned assassination preformed by his mistress, but we'll never know. So, choose what you'd like to believe, but the fact is that he died from the hashish.

[YODA]

So that clears up everything about it being a great mystery of how he died.

Well that's that then- it was on TV so it MUST be true!

Bwaaahahahahaaaaaa........

[morphus]

"assassination"

Bol**cks!:rolleyes:

[JediMasterChris]

Yeah, I think that is the same biography I bought the other day it has Dan Inosanto on it? I doubt it was an assasination because Bruce complained about headaches over 24 hours prior to his death so somebody would have had to somehow get him to ingest the hashish. In my opinion he was not assasinated, if somebody force fed him some hashish he probably would have known about it. I think he ingested it on his own free will and it killed him.:rolleyes:.......That's just my opinion of course.

[Andy Murray]

Gordon Bennet :rolleyes:

The web is plastered with all this stuff, do a search.

The accepted theory is that Bruce took a strong reaction to an Analgesic he was offered, his brain swelled and he died.

It is tragic, but I believe Bruce would far rather that people aspiring to be Martial Artists focused their attention on training and learning rather than gossiping and speculation.

Hash was in the stomach, because he ate it in Hash cakes. I don't think less of Bruce for this, as pretty much everyone used in the 60's and 70's. I have never heard of anyone dying from Hash.

[YODA]

Actually I found out some stuff recently that kinda got me thing that there may well have been more to it - something someone close to him told me.

If you want the details you'll have to ask me in person - I'm certainly not posting it on the web.

Hash? Mmmmm..... corned beef hash, with red cabbage...... Mmmmmm.

[Greg-VT]

Hmm.... I'll be there in about 1 and a half weeks..... ;)

[Cain]

Hmm.....on this site -

www.bruceleedivinewind.cjb.net

There's an interview with Robert Lee, where he says that they have an idea how Bruce died but they would rather not discuss this at this time....

PS - Yoda, would a PM do it?

Thanx,

|Cain|

[YODA]

Originally posted by cain_charlie
Hmm.....on this site -

www.bruceleedivinewind.cjb.net

There's an interview with Robert Lee, where he says that they have an idea how Bruce died but they would rather not discuss this at this time....

That'll be the same as I've been told then

PS - Yoda, would a PM do it?

Thanx,

|Cain|

No - sorry.

It'll come out eventually I'm sure. That's if THEY don't squash it!

[Greg-VT]

I think it might have been either very personal, or something law related. If this is the case, then something may have just come to light within the last 5 years or so. I'm not going to speculate any further.

Yoda, I trust that you were not entirely serious about telling people if they saw you in person... especially if they are off an online forum. If Mr. Lee does not wish to discuss it, I don’t see how others could.

If 'they' squash it, let them. Otherwise, I'm just going to let it go... as in, not look for it. But if it comes to my ears... then I'm not going to be deaf.
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[YODA]

What I meant was that will tell people IN PERSON who i know IN PERSON and can trust. "Knowing" someone via an internet forum is not the same as knowing them in "real life" - of course there are people here that i know in BOTH senses.

[Greg-VT]

Of course :)

[FISH]

Crazy poll hehe you're in the JKD forum of course Bruce Lee :D Seriously though you never really know like someone said but in a streetfight I wouldn't bet on anyone against Bruce Lee ;)

[Tireces]

I think a lot of people out there confuse the "no way as way..." quote. They think it means you should spread yourself thinly all over the place learning new techniques and applying "JKD Concepts" to them. Yes, I'm come from the aforementioned "Jun Fan Gung Fu" school of thought, what we do is really called Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, not Jun Fan Gung Fu, Jun Fan Gung Fu looks more like modified Wing Chun, Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do does not (I have a whole book devoted to comparing the two, trust me, they are quite different). In Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, other arts are not rejected simply because "it is not in our style to do that", rejections are based on careful and experience evaluation of how techniques of other arts work with what we do. For example, if it requires us to work out of a different stance, it is likely going to be disregarded. I guess the difference between what we do and a traditional "style" is simple. A heavily traditional martial artist will reject everything not in their style. We simply reject what does not work (be it inefficient, impractical for our stance, etc, the only real exception to the stance factor would be groundfighting, which really doesnt HAVE a stance), or what works but we already have something (or several things) like it that work far better, regardless of what "style" it comes from. Is Jeet Kune Do supposed to be set in stone? No, but you can't have people going about making changes to it the day they walk in the door, you have to actually give them the knowledge required to judge what does and doesn't work.

[Greg-VT]

Good post Trieces. You put it into words that many people should hear... unfortunatly those people don't want to hear them, or have no idea.

[Topher]

I just skipped to the last page so sorry if this has already been mentioned.

So how did Bruce die, well the two most plausible theories is (1) He's brain had an allergic reaction go some medication he was taking and (2) He was poisoned? Bruce smoked cannabis and only brought the good stuff from certain people but one occasion he brought from someone he didn't know, he collapsed and nearly died. Then it happened again and this time he doctors were unable to save him. Some say that on both occasions the cannabis was poisened, and nearly killed then killed him.

[Greg-VT]

Chewed cannabis. :p

[raybri-san]

take whats good for you and leave the rest it is a mix of deferent style's they sood you the most learn what you interest is and forget the rest mix it together and you create jeet kune do
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treu victory =self victory

[LS]

create jeet kune do? I thought JKD was already created. oh well I must have been dreaming ONE HELL OF A DREAM that i was training the lead punch, slide step or what have you.

[Tireces]

Thats funny, my fake martial arts teacher taught me that stuff too! But I learned later that jeet kune do is all about saying "no way as way" a lot and getting an initiate rank in every MA I can get my hands on. Everything else bruce lee said is meaningless! Just the "no way as way", thats the only thing that he was really saying! The rest is just lies!

[BryanX]

Out of the poll, I'd say your mother.

Anyway, about Bruce's death. Ok, what if he DID die by a curse from demons or the mystical dragon that became part of the rumor?

Perhaps, if this is so, then whatever bad spirit killed Bruce Lee, probably covered up the mystery of his death with the so-called "brain edema". This is so to lead us away from the truth. Oh yeah, not to mention all the other rumors going around about his death is also probably a part of the cover-up.

[BryanX]

Originally posted by Tireces
Thats funny, my fake martial arts teacher taught me that stuff too! But I learned later that jeet kune do is all about saying "no way as way" a lot and getting an initiate rank in every MA I can get my hands on. Everything else bruce lee said is meaningless! Just the "no way as way", thats the only thing that he was really saying! The rest is just lies!

"I don't want too many in my organization. I don't want some of my students to go out and teach the public and make money on 'JKD' - especially if they use my name to draw the students."

-Bruce Lee

[YODA]

Originally posted by BryanX
"I don't want too many in my organization. I don't want some of my students to go out and teach the public and make money on 'JKD' - especially if they use my name to draw the students."

-Bruce Lee

Where's that quote from Bryan?

[BryanX]

Originally posted by YODA
Where's that quote from Bryan?

I'll try to find it in my list of Bruce Lee websites. There's a website where it shows Dan Inosanto and some other people being interviewed.

[shuyun3]

Just to let you know you spelt Jet Li wrong.
its spelled that way outside america. Jackie and Jacky chan are the same person same as michelle khan and michelle yeoh.