How to get power with no bag.......

[AAAhmed46]

No one can dispute the power in a boxers punches.

I know alot of this power comes from slamming away at a hard punching bag and with wieght training and so forth.

But i have not bag(i posted a thread for cheap bags, but my mom wont let me hang it because it 'distroys the house' feh, she knows nothing)

Two questions: I know there are bags where you fill the base with water and you can punch away, but i have never seen a hard punching bag like that, are there any?

second question: Is there a way to get such power without a bag(besides horse stance, but i have yet to experiment with it to see if it really works for me.)

[notquitedead]

I have one of the bags where you fill the base with water or sound. It's not that bad, it isn't as good for conditioning as a hard heavy bag. Maybe the new ones are harder, mine is pretty old but I got it at a garage sale down the street for $50 USD. :D

I bought a muay thai bag about two months ago (parents still won't let me hang it until we clean out the garage, but so far we haven't done that :( ) and can't wait to hang it up. Is there a spot in your garage you can hang it up at, or something?

If you have a training partner you can train with focus mitts and other striking pads, but that's hard to do by yourself.

[Paratus]

Using your hips to twist into your punches creates more power, if done correctly

[AAAhmed46]

Even when punching the air?

[alex_000]

Try not to punch the air mate (shadowbox) for strength training. You'll just stretch your tendons and joints very much. You can have tendonitis to more Sirius injuries if you do that long term. Shadowboxing is for form and speed not for power. Don’t lock any elbows when doing it, and always hold back like 10% of your power when you finish a punch or just work speed.

Practise the hips as paratus said. Try transferring the power from found to hips to twisting your waist then shoulders and finally to hand with one explosive motion just hold a bit back at the end to prevent injuries. All the power comes from the ground, you need to understand and feel that.

A good exercise for that (provided you know the punch you're practicing technically) lets say the hook. Do 10 reps just working your legs nothing else. Feel the power from the ground to the hip, turn the ankle lower your thigh (if you know the move you know what I mean). Then do 10 more adding the turning of the waist. Then 10 more adding the shoulder, but don't punch. Finally 20 doing the hook and keeping in mind all previous stuff. Practice your form perfecting your form helps a lot more for power as you may think. You can do this exercise for all punches modifying it for each punch.

Finally work out, do weights it does wonders to punches.

All that stuff is a LOT more boring than punching the heavy bag but they work. You must be patient and do them..

[AAAhmed46]

I have one of the bags where you fill the base with water or sound. It's not that bad, it isn't as good for conditioning as a hard heavy bag. Maybe the new ones are harder, mine is pretty old but I got it at a garage sale down the street for $50 USD.

I bought a muay thai bag about two months ago (parents still won't let me hang it until we clean out the garage, but so far we haven't done that ) and can't wait to hang it up. Is there a spot in your garage you can hang it up at, or something?

If you have a training partner you can train with focus mitts and other striking pads, but that's hard to do by yourself.
I can put it in the garage, because its packed and small.

Would a rice bag help?





Well this info will come in handy. THe bag is my only problem.

Any more advice?

[Mushroom]

You can get free standing bags, like Pancration said but new ones cost a bit £200 not sure how much US would sell it for.
Like what Alex said, do weights, push ups etc.

If you really wanna hit something and you got gloves, punch a wall when no-ones at home :D

[notquitedead]

Holy crap 200 pounds for a heavy bag?

http://www.centuryfitness.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10051&categoryId=13577&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=13576&crumb=13501-13549-13574
There are a few different kinds on here, they aren't near that expensive.

[TheMachine]

you can do strength training to improve your punching power

[glenchuy]

you know those big bulky foam pads they put on the posts of basketball ring uh... posts? you can use those :)

[johndoch]

To punch hard you need a routine of shadow boxing, heavy bag, Training pads with partner, and sparring practise.

Shadow boxing keeps you light on your feet and is a good way to warm up amongst other things.

The heavy Bag will get you used to actually transferring energy from the ground through your body and into a target correctly as well as being a great work out in itself.

Working with focus mitts works more on accuracy speed and timing.

Finally sparring teaches you how to actually use your punches in an alive situation. Its no good being a massively powerful hitter planted in front of a heavy bag when you cant deliver in a live situation.

So my answer would be that you can get some power with a heavy bag but thats only a small part of the bigger picture. :)

[Cain]

I have one of the bags where you fill the base with water or sound

errrr.......???????

:confused:

|Cain|

[Ad McG]

www.jayebe.com

You could hang that one outside, and it's a pull up bar. Can't get better than that!

The standup ones are usually about 200quid, and only good if you fill them with sand rather than water. Even then you have to empty it when the bag compacts. Get one you can hang SOMEWHERE.

[AAAhmed46]

:love: I love you guys..........

[Freeform]

:love: I love you guys..........

In a platonic way right?!?!? ;)

[AAAhmed46]

whatever makes you comfortable. ;)

[silentwarrior]

Someone ealier mentioned bags filled with rice. what are do you guys think . about this. i have heard of one exercise that is supposed to be phenomanol to help build power in your punches that is very simple but i have yet to try repetativly. using bare hands or with gloves(i recomend gloves) punch a wall but when you punch the wall hold the punch thier for a count of ten during which you keep pressing against the wall as if your trying to move it and then release and keep repping it everyday.

[shootodog]

water heavy bags are nice.

to build power in boxing, the punches come from the feet, then the hips then the shoulders then the thrown punch.

[munkiejunkie]

silent warrior, how many times a day?

[silentwarrior]

oh i suppose however many times it takes to tire you out but the article i read siad once a day. again i have yet to experament with it but this has motivated me to start. do do any other martial arts besides just boxing munkiejunkie? i am just curious.

[munkiejunkie]

I dont box, I just want to develop more power. I do jujitsu

[shootodog]

I dont box, I just want to develop more power. I do jujitsu

someone's on the wrong thread :rolleyes:

[silentwarrior]

Thats cool same here well i do shinbudo which is a cross training program that incorparates wing chun kung fu, muay thia, tang so doe, and a little bit of boxing but the only full style that is taught is BJJ. My instructor trains under Rickson gracie. i also take Inayan Eskrima.

i dont think that someone has to do the martial art to be on the thread they could just be curious about it or want some helpful tips to start out.

[Goju]

I dont know about punching a wall, you punch a concrete wall, your screwing up your hands, you punch a regular wall, your screwing up the wall.

Those bags that you fill with water or sound :D , I find are great for kicking, but are pretty lousy for punching. Even if you fill it all the way, a punch makes it wobble so its not that good for combos, I like the heavy bag way better for punching. I like the sound of that thing that Adam McGuigan posted about. Also, if you have a deck you could hang one off of that and use it in the summer, or hang it in your basement, if you have a basement, garage maybe?. Other than that you could just go to a gym or something.

[NRees]

Punching the wall, hmmmm. It all depends on exactly HOW hard you hit the wall, this can be a good exercise for conditioning the knuckles. But I wouldn't suggest you hit a wall at anywhere near full strength because if you do, you're begging for trouble.

[Yukimushu]

Personally I believe there are much more sensible ways to toughen knuckles than punching a wall...

Plus the fact that punching a wall won't help make a punch more powerful.

[Pablo Escobar]

www.jayebe.com

You could hang that one outside, and it's a pull up bar. Can't get better than that!

The standup ones are usually about 200quid, and only good if you fill them with sand rather than water. Even then you have to empty it when the bag compacts. Get one you can hang SOMEWHERE.

That looks good, and for a decent price too - but would hanging a heavy bag on this and then pounding away at it not cause damage to the brick work of ur house?

[KungFuGirl]

If you really wanna hit something and you got gloves, punch a wall when no-ones at home :D


I think I speak for your mother when I say "You'll be dead-meat young man!"


If that desperate, punch a tree or something...not your walls!

(I know you weren't being serious :p )

[ZillaBilla]

Why don’t you do some knuckle push ups, concentrating your weight evenly between the knuckle of the index and middle fingers. This will give you calcified rounded penny shaped knuckles, and probably arthritis when your older.

[gedhab]

Why don’t you do some knuckle push ups, concentrating your weight evenly between the knuckle of the index and middle fingers. This will give you calcified rounded penny shaped knuckles, and probably arthritis when your older.

Seriously, are knuckle push ups bad for you knuckles...can they be damaged? Ithought it was good conditioning?

[Yukimushu]

SFUK have an excellent article claiming that knuckle pressups aren't the best way to strengthen them.

Bare Knickle Toughening Article (http://sfuk.tripod.com/articles_02/bare_knuckle.html)